Whoops out of smerit. Should there be a way to buy some from theymos?

[bettercrypto]

I can see that you are a good poster, applying for a merit source would be good (but theymos is not even making anyone a merit source for now).

To me being a merit source would probably make me feel like I have to go out and send merits. More like an obligation. If I paid for them then it's more like they are mine I can be as free or as stingy with them as I like. Just my view.

...If you are out of smerit, I thought you knew about this: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

Knew yes, remembered no....   :-)

-Dave

Placing merit here in the forum as additional rules and policies is something that gives reason that every community should be responsible for what they post here.

      And I don't think you have an obligation to give merit to anyone here, it's still better to give what you think is deserving of the person to receive merit from you, the wellspring inside that did it. It's just that sometimes I see some people who make sense in the posts of others here, but I don't see that merit is thrown at them, but the topic they made really makes sense. Then the others were only posted briefly but immediately received merit, although it is their freedom to whom they want to give merit. This is the only thing I noticed, actually.

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[Igebotz]

Idea 1: Adjust sMerit per merit based on user rank from the time it is integrated forward. For example:

Legendary: Receives 2 sMerit per Merit received

That would introduce exponential growth, and old Legendary account farmers would have unlimited sMerit to farm more accounts. Basically, the Merit system would become worthless.

Full member and below: 1 sMerit per Merit received (No change)

It's 1 sMerit per 2 Merit received.

What you don't have, you can't abuse! The old Legendary account would require a large number of merits in order to have smerits for farming. If this new structure is implemented, only high-quality posters will benefit.


The Bitcoin for Merits will be fantastic, but it should be limited to only DT1 with a positive strength to abuse.

There are bunch of quality posts on the Nigeria Board- someone can throw some there.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Idea 1: Adjust sMerit per merit based on user rank from the time it is integrated forward. For example:

Legendary: Receives 2 sMerit per Merit received

That would introduce exponential growth, and old Legendary account farmers would have unlimited sMerit to farm more accounts. Basically, the Merit system would become worthless.

Full member and below: 1 sMerit per Merit received (No change)

It's 1 sMerit per 2 Merit received.

What you don't have, you can't abuse! The old Legendary account would require a large number of merits in order to have smerits for farming. If this new structure is implemented, only high-quality posters will benefit.


The Bitcoin for Merits will be fantastic, but it should be limited to only DT1 with a positive strength to abuse.

Care us needed to be taken into consideration when considering new alternatives in other not to complicate the whole issue, i see nothing wrong with the merit system already on ground, members should be the one to readjust themselves in posting more quality posts, engage in research and findings or do any task that could be uniquely acceptable and members will show interest in giving smerit, but for the best interest of any legendary rank who wish to have more and enough smerits to send to others, then applying for a merit source is the best to do.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I don't know how this whole thing sounds but I think Theymos is not gonna agree with it, since it still falls on the idea of "BUYING AND SELLING" some practical charitable advantage of 'em post makers; very optimistic and incredulous critics - per say.
I don't support merit selling and buying matterless of how you wanna see 'em; as some nuggets to grow the forum members that are doing well in your own discretion or whatsoever... That's gonna make others map out a way to change the whole essence of this idea in particular,.. that's if you're to be given a chance.That's not derogatory, no..., No hard feelings dear..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[digaran]

I don't know how this whole thing sounds but I think Theymos is not gonna agree with it, since it still falls on the idea of "BUYING AND SELLING" some practical charitable advantage of 'em post makers; very optimistic and incredulous critics - per say.
I don't support merit selling and buying matterless of how you wanna see 'em; as some nuggets to grow the forum members that are doing well in your own discretion or whatsoever... That's gonna make others map out a way to change the whole essence of this idea in particular,.. that's if you're to be given a chance.That's not derogatory, no..., No hard feelings dear..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Well dear, unfortunately merit has become a political tool, people use it as leverage to support their like minded community members and oppress their adversaries.
It could be used in a discussion to inadvertently or otherwise to silence a few selected, because if you are unaware of some facts and see people are meriting my posts against someone else, you'd  automatically assume that I'm right and telling the truth in that said discussion.

Merit is being wrongly used already, selling it to everyone could make it worse, but it could have a price so high that no account farmer would dare to think about buying them. Maybe someone is rich enough that they'd like to use merit as their political voting token. Why not?

[Sandra_hakeem]

Well dear, unfortunately merit has become a political tool, people use it as leverage to support their like minded community members and oppress their adversaries.
It could be used in a discussion to inadvertently or otherwise to silence a few selected, because if you are unaware of some facts and see people are meriting my posts against someone else, you'd  automatically assume that I'm right and telling the truth in that said discussion.

Merit is being wrongly used already, selling it to everyone could make it worse, but it could have a price so high that no account farmer would dare to think about buying them. Maybe someone is rich enough that they'd like to use merit as their political voting token. Why not?

You know the problem right now?? No matter how much sentiments you try to consolidate the whole idea with, it cannot change the fact that SELLING MERITS will automatically go AGAINST this whole meritocracy; so of what use is it to have something that every single good person is struggling for - being put in the hands of some mere low-classed dummies, only for some lame fact that they've decided enough - since they haven't had any other choice - to give everything just to get 'em?? Of what IMPORTANCE will it be to have merit as part of the ranking process when it could simply be coverted for some few bucks (cus it's not gonna look too big for the rich ones)??
Look, instead of suggesting that merits becomes sellable, I'll suggest that Theymos removes the whole system... yeah, cus there's no point and I'm sure he wouldn't wanna do such... just my opinion

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well dear, unfortunately merit has become a political tool, people use it as leverage to support their like minded community members and oppress their adversaries.

I kinda-sorta know where you're coming from here, but I don't think merits are as powerful as all that.  They're basically just a "like" button except they're also a component of the ranking up process.  If you're already Legendary or have enough merits to get there, they're a pretty useless political tool, no? 

I'm also not sure to what extent merits have oppressed anyone's adversaries here--except for one great example: shitposters are definitely mine, and I have done my best to actively suppress them ranking up and thus earning more money by spewing crap forum-wide.  But I'm only one person with merits to give, right?  Someone else (or even a a whole lot of someone elses) could very well undo all of my suppression.

But all of that aside, if Theymos started selling merits it'd probably turn into a disaster very quickly.  Better for high-ranked/trusted members and/or merit sources who are running low to ask Theymos directly or create threads like this.  The community is often very willing to help when they know someone just wants to spread merits around.

[John Abraham]

Idea 1: Adjust sMerit per merit based on user rank from the time it is integrated forward. For example:

Legendary: Receives 2 sMerit per Merit received

That would introduce exponential growth, and old Legendary account farmers would have unlimited sMerit to farm more accounts. Basically, the Merit system would become worthless.

Full member and below: 1 sMerit per Merit received (No change)

It's 1 sMerit per 2 Merit received.

What you don't have, you can't abuse! The old Legendary account would require a large number of merits in order to have smerits for farming. If this new structure is implemented, only high-quality posters will benefit.

Igehhhhh, I slightly disagree. Only quality posts indeed deserve merit. But, it's not that hard fishing merits. Even shit posters can rank up quickly. Newbies spawn up every other day on the WO thread and keep posting tweets to get some easy merits. Eventually, they get it. Suppose this structure takes into consideration. Shitposter Legendaries will take the chance. You may ask, huh? Shitposter Legendaries? Yeah, You know that already. Actmyname leaves neutral on such accounts. There are a bunch of sold accounts around us with sMerits in hand. They can easily exchange merits, and you won't notice that.

But all of that aside, if Theymos started selling merits it'd probably turn into a disaster very quickly.  Better for high-ranked/trusted members and/or merit sources who are running low to ask Theymos directly or create threads like this.  The community is often very willing to help when they know someone just wants to spread merits around.

I agree with this statement. Theymos or Cyrus could decrease their skin thickness when it comes to response to established members (Like Staff, Moderators, Merit Sources, DTs)

[Igebotz]

What you don't have, you can't abuse! The old Legendary account would require a large number of merits in order to have smerits for farming. If this new structure is implemented, only high-quality posters will benefit.

Igehhhhh, I slightly disagree. Only quality posts indeed deserve merit. But, it's not that hard fishing merits. Even shit posters can rank up quickly. Newbies spawn up every other day on the WO thread and keep posting tweets to get some easy merits. Eventually, they get it. Suppose this structure takes into consideration. Shitposter Legendaries will take the chance. You may ask, huh? Shitposter Legendaries? Yeah, You know that already. Actmyname leaves neutral on such accounts. There are a bunch of sold accounts around us with sMerits in hand. They can easily exchange merits, and you won't notice that.

Shitpost legendary members will find it difficult to enter DT with a positive strength to qualify for one, and even if they do, they will be dropped quickly. BTW, the buying process will not be automatic; the admin must go through the buying request and ensure that the buyer is trustworthy enough not to abuse it. We don't have a merit source on our local board, and I'm sure you know what that means for quality posters over there. I wouldn't mind trading some bitcoin for some..

But all of that aside, if Theymos started selling merits it'd probably turn into a disaster very quickly.

If only the right requirement is not put in place.