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[vareole]

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[nutildah]

He's been banned since Sept 2018... Still wouldn't do any deals with him even if it is the real owner of that account.

[Pffrt]

If he is banned then he is able to log in and check my private message?

Because banned accounts are read only or watch only mode. They can read but can't post and in same way, they can read message but can't send anyone. He seems to be using that point in order to scam since he has nothing left to lose.

[YOSHIE]

You shouldn't easily trust members who offer escrow, without you investigating how reputable that member is.

The rice has become porridge, @Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum and even worse, @Webcelerator has been banned in this forum.

1. Webcelerator (Archived)




For the future you can use the escrow service provided in this forum.
Example:
Topic: Recommended bitcointalk escrow services

[Pffrt]

@Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum

Webcelerator didn't offer escrow service. OP said to use Dreamblob escrow service but Webceletor didn't agree with that. Later Webcelerator said they will use another escrow but Webceleror never came back. I think you didn't get the point, YOSHIE.
It's true that users shouldn't trust anyone so easily. There are a lot of scammers around.

[YOSHIE]

I think you didn't get the point, YOSHIE.

You interpret my words too quickly, you misinterpret them.

I said to OP.

The rice has become porridge, @Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum and even worse, @Webcelerator has been banned in this forum.

From the meaning of what I said, anyone who offers "escrow" service if it is not listed in the escrow service in this forum, ignore don't believe, either by telegram or in this forum, even though he shows other members./who knows, it could be, it's an Alt account.
Better, anyone who wants to use an escrow service, direct communication to the intended member, without going through other members.
That's what I meant, no, it should: @Webcelerator offers an escrow service to the OP.

[Pffrt]

elmanchez https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2553198

This user seems to be accused for scam attempts and seems like you are also another target of them. Lucky that you got rid of them. Check the referenced thread of elmanchez tag and you will get idea about his scam method.

[khaled0111]

I just checked his profile and his "Current Status" shows as online:


So no doubt here he is the same person who contacted you on Telegram. Maybe he is reading this thread right now!

Obviously, he has many alts/friends and he will try to convince you to use one of them as escrow.
Do not make any deal with him

[DireWolfM14]

If the contents of this screenshot are true, then you should report the PM to admin.  Of course screenshots could easily be faked, so this might be an attempt to discredit elmanchez, which may or may not be happening.  In my opinion the verdict is still out on that.

But again, if this personal message is real, he's essentially admitting to ban evasion.  Have you reported it to admin?

[Archive]

[DireWolfM14]

I can let you or anyone else with high rep to check this private message in my account and confirm its legit and not fake.

@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.

I did it now.

Good, maybe @hilariousandco will have access to it, and let us know one way or the other.

[khaled0111]

@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.

I think suchmoon can help too  I remember him saying he did it before.
Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore since OP reported the message. We will know he is telling the truth when elmanchez's account get banned.
I tend to believe him, though. There is no reason why he would be lying about this.

[LoyceV]

I can let you or anyone else with high rep to check this private message in my account and confirm its legit and not fake.

@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.

I can do this tomorrow if you want. I didn't read the details (hey, it's Sunday night) but if you send me account details and captcha free URL (so I can use Tor), I can check and confirm/deny any PM tomorrow.
I'll read the details tomorrow too

[LoyceV]

Should I send captcha free URL + password to you in private message?

Yes. But before messing around with your account: Stake your Bitcoin address here. If you want to ever use your current password again: change it before sending it to me.
The captcha free link makes it easier for me to use Tor (so I don't end up in your IP logs). After I'm done verifying, you should change your password and Reset your captcha bypass code.

So to be clear, I only have to verify this PM?

[dkbit98]

Interesting findings.
This guy elmanchez sent me PM some time ago and he offered to make me some ANN topic design for free, even if I never asked him to do this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2553198

He never made anything and never talked with me after that.

[LoyceV]

I confirm this PM (in vareole's inbox) is authentic: elmanchez confirms ownership of fantom196 and Webcelerator.
Archived (in case imgur.com gets edited).

I confirm these PMs (in vareole's outbox) are authentic.
Archived (in case imgur.com gets edited).

@vareole: you should change your password and captcha code again

[nutildah]

With all these newb accounts apparently trying to bring elmanchez down over the last month or two, I have to say, I did not see this coming.

This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts, some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.

So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.

[suchmoon]

With all these newb accounts apparently trying to bring elmanchez down over the last month or two, I have to say, I did not see this coming.

This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts, some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.

So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.

Maybe someone asked elmanchez to send that PM

Maybe he bought those accounts - if that's a good excuse for plagiarism then he's totally not ban evading either.

Or maybe it's time to use Occam's razor on this one.

[DireWolfM14]

This is turn for the worst, I must say...

Now I'd like to know is it elmanchez who was behind the creation of these accounts?  Since some of them date back to 2013, I'm finding that hard to believe. 
Did elmanchez try to buy some hero accounts, which turned out banned, essentially falling for yet another scam?
Or, did elmanchez sell his account to this account farmer, who's trying to use it to...  What is he trying to do?

Regardless, I'm concerned since elmanchez owes me 0.043BTC and 0.3ETH. 

[suchmoon]

Did elmanchez try to buy some hero accounts, which turned out banned, essentially falling for yet another scam?

While plausible, it doesn't change the fact that he tried to pass a banned account as trustworthy, going as far as using a screenshot to confirm receipt of a PM (because obviously he wasn't able to reply to the PM). That's a proper scam attempt.

Sorry for your loss but I doubt he intends to pay those loans back.

[khaled0111]

Obviously, elmanchez's plan was to gain the trust of the community before pulling his exit scam. It's clear from the above replies, highly trusted members and DTs still find it hard to believe he is a scammer!
Technically, he didn't scam anyone in this particular case, though.

I knew from the beginning there was something wrong with this user and he shouldn't be trusted here.

@DireWolfM14, I hope you will, somehow, get your money back.