all lives matter only until black lives matter is a faschist slur

[KingScorpio]

it means that believers in black lives matters want to bring war (no justice no peace) on all if they don't enslave themselves to the well being of black people.

why is the crazy mass media and corporations to stupid to see the fashism and racism in this, instead they try to enforce it on others?

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[uneng]

I think media and corporations aren't stupid, it's just part of the plan to destabilize the country and create chaos. Media, corporations, social movements, politicians... All of them have a role on this novel: corporations fund social movements that are protected by politicians and this chain is endorsed and kept by the media and its celebrities who work to make common citizens accept normally the violence, riot and degradation as the protesters were just fighting for their rights. It's not happening only in United States however.

[franky1]

BLM to become MLB
Make Lives Better

then its not about minorities being segregated or empty promises.
a governor can says "yes black live do matter" and thats it job done. platitudes passed and back to normal

but actually asking for more then recognition. and actually ask for something. will atleast give a target to aim for.
governors would actually have to do things to improve peoples lives. and not jsut recognise a certain minority are alive

[madnessteat]

I think media and corporations aren't stupid, it's just part of the plan to destabilize the country and create chaos. Media, corporations, social movements, politicians... All of them have a role on this novel: corporations fund social movements that are protected by politicians and this chain is endorsed and kept by the media and its celebrities who work to make common citizens accept normally the violence, riot and degradation as the protesters were just fighting for their rights. It's not happening only in United States however.

That's right. Black people are used as fuel to stir up unrest and only for political purposes. Refugees in other countries can become the same fuel. White people who support blacks do not yet understand that this war is going on against them and their children.

[bryant.coleman]

That's right. Black people are used as fuel to stir up unrest and only for political purposes. Refugees in other countries can become the same fuel. White people who support blacks do not yet understand that this war is going on against them and their children.

All those who support Black lives matter needs to look in to this chart:



First of all, most of the homicides in US involve individuals of the same race (i.e both the victim and the perpetrator are from the same race). Secondly, in cases of inter-racial murder, the number of whites being killed by blacks account for more than 3 times the case where blacks are the victims. In short, what we need right now is a White lives matter movement, or better an All lives matter movement.

Now let's take a look at the police shootings. Contrary to the myths, every year more number of whites are shot dead by the cops, when compared to the blacks.

[franky1]

there are a few things where blacks are disadvantaged.
such as living in run down neighbourhoods where its low income families meaning less tax going into treasury and more going out to support incomes. which the causes budget restrictions on things like redeveloping social housing, creating more social housing and also funding schools

BUT
white people also have low incomes and in the same neighbourhoods with the same local schools and local stores that dont offer fresh veg due to the price of tinned veg being cheaper and all that people can afford.
low income families cant afford gas and an oven to boil veg. the most they can handle is a tin opener and a microwave. so even making veg cheaper then stumbles into the household bills of preparing food

i understand that people think this is an oppertunity to just promote minorities to senior roles and make them rich. but thats not gonna happen and going to cause more of a divide. with the whole "privilege" buzzword

the best solution is to actually make a 'social welfare' budget thats actually not below the poverty line. and also make employment not subsidised by social welfare but instead actually pay a proper living wage
instead of banks creating $30bill a month. as loans. banks should use their own already held capital for loans. and then the treasury should "create" money to pay for public infrustructure

i know we are living in the era where businesses can get cheap labour by outsourcing manufacturing abroad or replacing staff with automated machines (heck even mcdonalds are doing it with their touchscreen kiosks)

so trying to find that pivotal starting point of expanding employment that can roll into causing more positive lives, is not easy
the main problem with manufacturing abroad is because the exchange rate has be motivated to keep asian countries low so we can buy stuff from them cheap. however a switch where the GBP/USD is low compared to asian currencies wil make it more expensive to buy from there to inspire local manufacturing and also get asia to buy from the west which would put more funds into the west. instead of the west putting funds into the east right now
...
but atleast addressing where and what the problems actually are. is much better than just asking governors to just say "yes black lives matter" take a knee.. and then carry on with their day.

the whole take a knee solves nothing.

[uneng]

there are a few things where blacks are disadvantaged.
such as living in run down neighbourhoods where its low income families meaning less tax going into treasury and more going out to support incomes. which the causes budget restrictions on things like redeveloping social housing, creating more social housing and also funding schools

BUT
white people also have low incomes and in the same neighbourhoods with the same local schools and local stores that dont offer fresh veg due to the price of tinned veg being cheaper and all that people can afford.
low income families cant afford gas and an oven to boil veg. the most they can handle is a tin opener and a microwave. so even making veg cheaper then stumbles into the household bills of preparing food

Then blacks aren't in disadvantage.
Blacks and whites share the same living standards. It's not even a racial issue, but a character issue.

i know we are living in the era where businesses can get cheap labour by outsourcing manufacturing abroad or replacing staff with automated machines (heck even mcdonalds are doing it with their touchscreen kiosks)

Although machines are taking humans jobs, it's not bad. Just look how many opportunities first world countries (the most developed technological ones) have to offer. By a quick search on the internet it's possible to see the disponible offers for these countries that aren't disponible for the rest of the world. So I think there isn't any excuse for a first world citizen go rogue.

so trying to find that pivotal starting point of expanding employment that can roll into causing more positive lives, is not easy
the main problem with manufacturing abroad is because the exchange rate has be motivated to keep asian countries low so we can buy stuff from them cheap. however a switch where the GBP/USD is low compared to asian currencies wil make it more expensive to buy from there to inspire local manufacturing and also get asia to buy from the west which would put more funds into the west. instead of the west putting funds into the east right now

West can only overcome east mass production if they totally automate the process. In human competition west will always lose, as western citizens don't accept the same working standards easterns do. Easterns accept to work more for less and without protesting for labor rights. How can be western market competitive if it goes on the exactly opposite direction?

[KingScorpio]

BLM to become MLB
Make Lives Better

then its not about minorities being segregated or empty promises.
a governor can says "yes black live do matter" and thats it job done. platitudes passed and back to normal

but actually asking for more then recognition. and actually ask for something. will atleast give a target to aim for.
governors would actually have to do things to improve peoples lives. and not jsut recognise a certain minority are alive

well they will then have to accept that countries have to be able to lock down their border and fund their own offspring instead of the foreign ones, that is neverendingly migrating.

[KingScorpio]

BLM to become MLB
Make Lives Better

then its not about minorities being segregated or empty promises.
a governor can says "yes black live do matter" and thats it job done. platitudes passed and back to normal

but actually asking for more then recognition. and actually ask for something. will atleast give a target to aim for.
governors would actually have to do things to improve peoples lives. and not jsut recognise a certain minority are alive

the problem with "Black lives matter" is that you can get enslaved through migration idiot,

your country could neverendingly be enslaved to fix lives of illegal immigrating africans, instead of funding their own youth.

thats the issue. the retarded and racist democrats can't understand

[franky1]

there are a few things where blacks are disadvantaged.
such as living in run down neighbourhoods where its low income families meaning less tax going into treasury and more going out to support incomes. which the causes budget restrictions on things like redeveloping social housing, creating more social housing and also funding schools

BUT
white people also have low incomes and in the same neighbourhoods with the same local schools and local stores that dont offer fresh veg due to the price of tinned veg being cheaper and all that people can afford.
low income families cant afford gas and an oven to boil veg. the most they can handle is a tin opener and a microwave. so even making veg cheaper then stumbles into the household bills of preparing food

Then blacks aren't in disadvantage.
Blacks and whites share the same living standards. It's not even a racial issue, but a character issue.

its not aout an only black or only white.
yes more blacks than white are mpacted by these 'projects' neighbourhood. but the blacks should treat it as a society thing and include their white neighbours too to maximise the impact of change.
just making it into a cry about how blacks are victims is not addressing a solution. its just scouting we victims, which then makes even he victim card a weak argument when whites are also affected.
if they just combine forces and actually seek change. then they can affect change

West can only overcome east mass production if they totally automate the process. In human competition west will always lose, as western citizens don't accept the same working standards easterns do. Easterns accept to work more for less and without protesting for labor rights. How can be western market competitive if it goes on the exactly opposite direction?

but if the exchange rate of asian favours asia. itdoesnt matter how much you 'automate' things in the west.
asian can automate even cheaper.
yet if you just flip the exchange rate then it automatically flips the preference to build within country instead of importing. withut even have to consider automation/mass production efficiency

..
take brexit they are crying how things in europe will become more expensive.. to me thats great more oppertunity to create within the UK instead of buying from europe

a tomato might be 70p UK farmed or 64p euro farmed
making it 76p euro farmed will instantly make people buy UK 70p produce more. without changing any UK farming methods

[franky1]

BLM to become MLB
Make Lives Better

then its not about minorities being segregated or empty promises.
a governor can says "yes black live do matter" and thats it job done. platitudes passed and back to normal

but actually asking for more then recognition. and actually ask for something. will atleast give a target to aim for.
governors would actually have to do things to improve peoples lives. and not jsut recognise a certain minority are alive

the problem with "Black lives matter" is that you can get enslaved through migration idiot,

your country could neverendingly be enslaved to fix lives of illegal immigrating africans, instead of funding their own youth.

thats the issue. the retarded and racist democrats can't understand

toning down your racial conspiracy..
i get what you mean. when new legislation is implemented to give funding to look after child migrants without parents. it then incentivises gready border guard guys to split up families and take the kids into refuge to then claim those funds for looking after the kids. while just boxing them into large facilities instead of caring homes.
i understand that prospective.
but the BLM is more about those that actually are citizens feeling they are not treated the same as white citizens.

my overall point is that trying to compare a black working single mom and then purposefully lookng for a white priveliged family unit with upper class employment. is not the right comparison either

instead notice the 'poor' deprived neighbourhoods. and find a solution to their problems to just improve their lives. it doesnt mean give everyone a million dollars.
it just means fund schools fairly. get town councils to ensure there is adequate food store access. and have employment oppertunities in that neighbourhood.

EG some area's have business facilities/industry where there is equal employment oppertunity ratio as the residential population.
yet i see places create new neighbourhoods but dont include shops/schools/business parks in that area. meaning anyone moving into these area's then have trouble finding a job nearby

i see it in the UK now
there is less school seats and less hospital beds than 20 years ago. yet the population has increased a small bit
its then been used to make it sound like the lack of space in schools and hospital beds is due to immigration. when the realise is that school mergers and hospital ward closures and taken away capacity. to then cause strain on the area through no fault of their own but government underfunding

UK hospitals had:
1988: population ~50m, 297,000 beds = ~6 beds per 1000 (0.6%)
2008: population ~62m, 157,000 beds = ~2.5 beds per 1000(0.25%)

population growth of 24% yet not 24% bed growth.. instead over 50% bed reduction comparatively

[Astargath]

That's right. Black people are used as fuel to stir up unrest and only for political purposes. Refugees in other countries can become the same fuel. White people who support blacks do not yet understand that this war is going on against them and their children.

All those who support Black lives matter needs to look in to this chart:



First of all, most of the homicides in US involve individuals of the same race (i.e both the victim and the perpetrator are from the same race). Secondly, in cases of inter-racial murder, the number of whites being killed by blacks account for more than 3 times the case where blacks are the victims. In short, what we need right now is a White lives matter movement, or better an All lives matter movement.

Now let's take a look at the police shootings. Contrary to the myths, every year more number of whites are shot dead by the cops, when compared to the blacks.

Also, an extremely important point to be aware of is: 'police shootings' do not refer to unjustified shootings but overall shootings. I can guarantee you that most of those shootings were justified.

[yhiaali3]

In every movement of protests, popular demands, or even a revolution, there are always those behind the curtain who move events to his advantage and benefit from the existing chaos situation. Of course, these do not matter to the demands of blacks or other peoples, but all that matters is their personal interest, people's lives are not important for them and their demands are not concerned with them Whether it is fair or not, they only aim to achieve their best interests.
Take recent riots in America, for example, it is certain that politicians who defend the rights of blacks now do not care much if blacks obtain their rights or not, but rather want to take advantage of these events to strike the reputation of Trump and the ruling party and take advantage of that to appear as defenders of the rights of the people . In fact, they may be more corrupt than Trump and the ruling party members.

[franky1]

take george floyd
a guy that couldnt even afford to buy normal things at a normal store.
weeks later loads of donations went towards a multiday funeral at multiple locations

i wonder how much of tht money went to actually aid those charities that actually handle wrongful convictions based on race
i wonder how much of that money went on to pay lawyers to investigate people of george floyds home town that also got racial abuse from cops.

selling lots of t-shirts with georges face on it. and then lots of other 'foundations' with brand names and #tags advertising their paraphernalia
but 'george floyd' is not an actual government task that needs to be done. its not a list of specific demands

instead of advertising the #tags and shirts and banners and placards..
when will they advertise each and every case they handle in court to show they doing something productive with the funds

with the so called 'millions' wrongly incarcerated. they should be advertising multiple cases a day they are trying to get overturned.

its the same empty cries i see that greta eco activist girl do
"government needs to do................... something"
well you have a microphone, your on tv, explain this SOMETHING without using the word something

bulletpoint it. make a list. give details. show how people can get involved. tell us something
if the only involvement is to take a knee or buy a shirt. it solves nothing

[bryant.coleman]

Also, an extremely important point to be aware of is: 'police shootings' do not refer to unjustified shootings but overall shootings. I can guarantee you that most of those shootings were justified.

Yes. I have no doubt that every year a number of unarmed civilians get killed in unjustified shootings by the policemen, but the vast majority were necessary. Whenever someone gets killed by the cops, the media goes ballistic. The news is pasted in the front page of all the major dailies. In many cases, the policemen are forced to do this, to defend themselves. But the media will never give this detail. Even if someone is shot dead by policemen while committing an armed robbery or hostage taking, the media will paint it in such a way, to put the blame on the cops.

Now there is another set of killings that will never find any place on the first page of the newspapers and tabloids. That is the deaths of policemen while they are on active duty. As per the latest stats from the FBI, 106 officers were killed while being on duty in 2018. The average age of the killed officers was 37 years. You will never find any protest rally or media campaign condemning these deaths.

[Cnut237]

Now let's take a look at the police shootings. Contrary to the myths, every year more number of whites are shot dead by the cops, when compared to the blacks.

The chart undermines your argument, surely?

African-Americans make up 13% of the population.
African-Americans make up 23% of fatal police shootings.
Therefore African-Americans are disproportionately likely to get fatally shot.

[Spendulus]

Now let's take a look at the police shootings. Contrary to the myths, every year more number of whites are shot dead by the cops, when compared to the blacks.

The chart undermines your argument, surely?

African-Americans make up 13% of the population.
African-Americans make up 23% of fatal police shootings.
Therefore African-Americans are disproportionately likely to get fatally shot.

No, the chart does not undermine Bryant's argument, unless you would argue by omission.

One catastrophic condition in the lives of many African Americans today is the horrendously high murder rate that they experience. While, according to the U.S. Census (U.S. Census Quick Facts), African Americans made up 12.6% of the U.S. population in 2010, and  13.3% in 2015, they, according to the FBI were in 2013 victims of 45% of the murders, in 2018 victims of 52.4% of the murders in the U.S., more than three times the rate that might be expected by population.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/philip-carl-salzman/2020/05/31/who-kills-african-americans-n472072

[gmakaveli]

I think media and corporations aren't stupid, it's just part of the plan to destabilize the country and create chaos. Media, corporations, social movements, politicians... All of them have a role on this novel: corporations fund social movements that are protected by politicians and this chain is endorsed and kept by the media and its celebrities who work to make common citizens accept normally the violence, riot and degradation as the protesters were just fighting for their rights. It's not happening only in United States however.

Well put, my friend. My only concern is who and why needs to destabilize the situation and will there be anybody to profit from this in the long run? They're smart enough to manipulate masses but unwise enough to doom generations of people

[KingScorpio]

Now let's take a look at the police shootings. Contrary to the myths, every year more number of whites are shot dead by the cops, when compared to the blacks.

The chart undermines your argument, surely?

African-Americans make up 13% of the population.
African-Americans make up 23% of fatal police shootings.
Therefore African-Americans are disproportionately likely to get fatally shot.

thats because they are systematically anti state and anti republic the police is constantly suspicious of them, why else are black people mostly in the anarchic and antiwhite democratic party?

furthermore no one is trying so much to spread illigal migrants as them.