Are you an asset or liability?

[jademaxsuy]

I just wanted to share experience in regards to this forum. I have posted this an awareness to my co-bounty hunters that are new in here. Here is my few cents short point of view in this forum.

I was a bounty hunter and done things on my own (without even reading rules and regulations of the forum). I am here to earn and to learn(learning is not really the priority). I was told that this forum will let you earn instant big rewards from joining projects. Well, it is not really true. Most of the time projects failed and some are even created for scam.

So, I did read and learn here from users to which always being emphasized from these users the "there is no fast and easy money". At first, I did not believe in them and still continue to look for a good paying projects. Exhausted due to the task to do like submission of reports and the number of post needed to comply weekly. Yes, I was like that but still failed earning rewards over and over again due to same reasons from team handling the projects like they are failing or maybe it was not but they lie because they do not want to pay the bounty hunters.

Do I learn a lesson?

Nope, instead I continue to research and found some interesting threads that advises to look for those reputable bounty managers or group that handle successful bounty projects. Yes, there were few and most of good projects pay btc but one must be a quality poster which I am not. Then there are project that actually pay tokens but most of the time bounty campaigns already fill by the bounty hunters that are eager to join. So it did not work.

Do I wish to join a project that pays token??

No, not anymore except if I can see reputable users will also join and if I am also qualified.

My point of view of the forum

The thing is that this forum is not for opportunity to earn. It is just only a part of it. Mostly newcomers will becoming shitposters, plagiarist or a scammer that could add the works of the MODs here in the forum verifying and ban them. The MODs gives the user the freedom to post  but not to those becoming a plagiarist, a scammer, or a shitposter. This forum is for cryptocurrency discussion especially for those who wanted to seek technical help. This is I believe why this forum has been created for this purpose to discuss technical problems that a user will going to encounter in relation to cryptocurrency.

The problem is that others want the forum like a place they wanted to be(a place where they can scam). This is important for system discussion and not the place for scamming. Forum should change your point of view and not you to change the forum. "Become an Asset and not a Liability to this forum."

So what are you, an asset or liability?

[BIT-BENDER]

The merit system is a beauty of a thing, now you get reward for what you choose to be -shit dumping poster or good poster-.
I think I have heard enough of -signature or bounty- it's more than this two, the opportunity here is wide as the ocean if you can see it! You have any skill? You can earn from that -merit earning as well- wriggle out of this thought/believe that you learning for -signature or bounty participation-.

[Daniel91]

As you probably know,  Bitcoin founder Satoshi also started this forum.
In the beginning, members joined because of idea,  vision behind bitcoin.
Of course, later when bitcoin became more popular and famous, many members joined this forum because of opportunity to earn some money.
Different people have different reasons to join and it's normal.
We should try to be constructive and support each other  like real community.
If new members follow such standard,  they will not have any problem here and others will respect them.
Otherwise,  we know what happen to members who spam in this forum.
We all are free to choose our way here.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Pretty well laid out. People join the forum for a diversity of reasons, being an attempt to make some sort of financial gain probably at the top of the list, but also to resolve some honest problem that has cropped-up, query about some operational o conceptual doubts, dive-in to technical aspects, and so forth.

The initial reason to join the forum may not turn out to be the one that keeps you hooked-on to it, as people change and evolve in their engagement here.

[taufik123]

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My point of view of the forum

The thing is that this forum is not for opportunity to earn. -snip-

This forum is not a place to get an opportunity. But you yourself must make the opportunity there.
Have a clear goal, learn well, follow every rule in the forum, this will make you have a better chance to become a member who can develop in this forum.

The point of view provided by this forum will change you about the purpose and establishment of this forum. All good members continue and continue to learn in this forum.
Financial benefits are a bonus that you will get from your hard work in this forum.

[jademaxsuy]

The point of view provided by this forum will change you about the purpose and establishment of this forum. All good members continue and continue to learn in this forum.
Financial benefits are a bonus that you will get from your hard work in this forum.

Yes, I have been observing that more users now are helpful especially in providing resources like current events and other good stuff.

The merit system is a beauty of a thing, now you get reward for what you choose to be -shit dumping poster or good poster-.

Yes, it is absolute remedy to shit posting and plagiarism. however, there are still few who were doing it and timely it will be eradicated or minimize to an ideal percent for the forum to continue the smooth and good interaction to all users. Anyway, there is actually a change now in the forum and experience a good flow of interaction. I am also always visiting this section due to the fact that there are quite good resources, shared ideas and technical that has been posted good for the beginners.

[sheenshane]

So what are you, an asset or liability?

If you are going to ask me, you should be like a double-edged sword that has a capable act in two ways. Being a liability and also an asset in the forum in a good way, be responsible in the forum. And the tip of the double-edged sword must be your mind that any time ready to sharpen in all aspects and ready to learn the blockchain technology or any technical staff towards our forum.

Focus on learning and establish your account very well by contributing good information to other members. If you have been on that stage rank up requirements such as having merit will not become a barrier anymore. Earning and profit? as I said focus on the first to educate your self, earning profit will come at the right time. You can't easily jump to the earning stage level if you skip learning.

[Lucius]

The thing is that this forum is not for opportunity to earn. It is just only a part of it. Mostly newcomers will becoming shitposters, plagiarist or a scammer that could add the works of the MODs here in the forum verifying and ban them.

I didn’t even know that this forum provided any earning opportunity at all when I registered in 2015, and even before that I had been reading the forum as a guest for at least a year. I joined the first paid signature campaign only as a Full member, and even then I knew that bounty campaigns were something to avoid. There is great truth that the wrong word about this forum has spread, primarily marking it as a place where only earnings are made, but we can primarily thank bounty campaigns for that, but also some signature campaigns that literally legitimized shitposting.

Forum should change your point of view and not you to change the forum. "Become an Asset and not a Liability to this forum."

It would be more accurate to say that a forum can change one's point of view, but that should not be the rule. Some come to the forum as good people with generally good intentions, and leave as bad people because they have developed bad intentions, and the system has punished them for it. The forum has rules set by the administrator, and everyone has the right to criticize those rules and suggest some new ones - but no one has the right to impose their own rules and treat the forum as their property.

[AakZaki]

Old users always emphasize that "there is no fast money in this forum", all of them need a process and the process will run according to your purpose in being in the forum.

Getting instant big rewards is just a novice boast who doesn't understand the rules in this forum. in 2016 - 2017 big rewards might make sense, because there are many successful projects, but still nothing is instant.
For the moment many projects have failed and we are required to be more creative and contribute more in this forum. A campaign that really pays for requires qualified members, not just shitposter.

[Smartvirus]

So what are you, an asset or liability?

At first when I saw this topic, I had to ask myself:
1. Can someone really be a liability to himself or herself
2. Can someone be an asset?

After going through the piece of literature, I knew then that we are all from the womb of one forum (Bitcointalk) and that the forum owns us all.
Hence, your content places you in either category and I'll say, choose to learn first and everything else will add.
Be an asset and not a liability.

[hd49728]

Asset or liability? It is not easy to answer directly.

I don't think there are liability entities on the forum. It is your exaggeration. Scammers, spammers, shitposters are they liabilities of the forum? I don't agree. I call them as burden of the forum rather than liabilities.
Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally?
Cleaning up the house in Bitcoin/ Altcoin/ Gambling Discussion boards

Asset. To become forum assets, users have to go through a very long journey, from newbies to higher ranks. Along their journey, they have to contribute many things, from knowledge, practical supports/ advises, and get sorta reputation for themselves. Contributions will be recognised by the community so if one user complains "I contribute a lot but no one recognize my contributions." It is untrue. Contributions are too little, not much enough and his works are not good enough to be realized.

[Beparanf]

The merit system is a beauty of a thing, now you get reward for what you choose to be -shit dumping poster or good poster-.
I think I have heard enough of -signature or bounty- it's more than this two, the opportunity here is wide as the ocean if you can see it! You have any skill? You can earn from that -merit earning as well- wriggle out of this thought/believe that you learning for -signature or bounty participation-.

At this point, only those who have merit have more chance of being able to join a better campaign, but like what they did they work and earned it. Before being able to be a asset we need to be good in doing our job. Take double time in posting and find ways to get atleast a merit every 120 days to qualify in a paying campaign. It's been hard to get merit since some don't notice it but keep posting that's what I learned this Covid, they might notice us eventually.
For OP, before like in year 2017. Bounties where a good way to earn paying really high, but not anymore.

[NavI_027]

I'm glad you now realized the true nature of bounty campaigns nowadays . Good thing you shift now into sig campaigns. Though you are only earning few bucks, that's okay because everything is just a side line tho — we should not treat it as a career.  What more important is the knowledge and fun you get while you are staying here. But the sad part is most members (especially the newbies) are too focused on tokens/btc rewards which is wrong tsk.

Yes, there were few and most of good projects pay btc but one must be a quality poster which I am not.

No, don't let yourself down. The fact that you are getting merit means that you are really a quality poster. Remember that a quality post doesn't mean full of technicalities .

[jademaxsuy]

Yes, there were few and most of good projects pay btc but one must be a quality poster which I am not.

No, don't let yourself down. The fact that you are getting merit means that you are really a quality poster. Remember that a quality post doesn't mean full of technicalities .

Yes, I kept on trying and thankful to other users here like you keeping everyone motivated. In this way more and more users will come realize because we learn on our mistakes and on the mistakes of others. This is the mere reason why I had postesd in this section to serve as awareness especially to those who do bounty hunting earning tokens that are not really paying and to those who plan join im future bounty hunting.

No poster here will agree that he is a liability and out to earn money alone instead of learn about bitcoin. That is the hypocrisy of humans, always saying they are fine when asked 'how are you?' Let us not judge those who do not have merited posts as spammers or having low quality posts. I have seen many low quality posters get merited over and over. As for me am here to learn about cryptocurrency and at the same time earn money.

Yes, definitely being a liability is a shame for oneself but it also a matter of acceptance and then learning on that mistakes. Probably I can sense that there will be few bounty hunters that could reflect on this post and that could help. The forum has a lot of things to offer and it only needs to discover it here. There are few things also that I am interested and would like to try.

[DdmrDdmr]

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I haven’t looked at campaign conditions for some time, but a merit or two per month should not be that tough for any persistent decent enough poster. As you say, not all posts are obviously going to get merited: Topics that have been seen around quite a bit, or responses late within the thread (when there are prior correct responses) will probably stand less chances, the way the content is composed and expressed has its saying, as does the topic itself (some are more enticing to read than others).

[QueenVera]

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I haven’t looked at campaign conditions for some time, but a merit or two per month should not be that tough for any persistent decent enough poster.

All the campaign I have seen requires a minimum of 5 earned merit in the last 120 days which isn't much but for some members like us that most of our content aren't visible to a broad number of users it becomes difficult to achieve just 1 merit in months. Not trying to say I'm that quality poster that doesn't get merit but judging from my observation so far although the merit are circulating around, it isn't that easy for some average users to recieve them.
One thing is certain (responding to the question in the main thread), the forum needs both set of individual to function but you should try as much as you can to be in the positive side which is been an asset and in some way I believe I'm an asset, if I'm not to the forum then I'm to myself an asset.

[jademaxsuy]

One thing is certain (responding to the question in the main thread), the forum needs both set of individual to function but you should try as much as you can to be in the positive side which is been an asset and in some way I believe I'm an asset, if I'm not to the forum then I'm to myself an asset.

Isn't it wonderful to take chances others to get inspired. Being an asset would in just oneself could relatively do good in the forum and to cryptocurrency. This will limit the chances that one to become a scammer, shitposter or a plagiarist. The result would be a healtier forum to have a good discussions for cryptocurrency. Most of us wanted it to happen here. Anyway, bounty campaign should not be consider here as part of earning or a sideline. It is just a bonus if it really pays. However most of it were not paying. I am not interested in it anymore instead I am following bitcoin and see how it could d good in the future or how it will be put to good use since there is already an app I downloaded that can actually make use of bitcoin as a medium of exchange. But for now I am interested in saving money in bitcoin and try to see if bitcoin could really beat the inflation rate that happen to most of the countries.

[famososMuertos]

Hi!
Each post is a part of your personality, I have a habit of looking at each "gesture" that is written, each point, each comma, count, the grammar count, the context counts, it is you in each word.

You can see that in a single post, but the personality and contribution begins to be noticed with the sum of each post and the contribution that each of your publications leaves in the (long-short) path that must be traveled to reach an answer to your question.
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I think your title and consequent end of the OP, has some grammar, beware, it is not that bad, I understand you, but it has double sense, in this situation and in the context of what it expresses, perhaps if it is the intention.

As I mentioned, each word counts, so I'm going to answer that question in the two contexts that have my understanding.

Each user is a valuable asset to this forum, even if they never write anything, as the number of registered people increases.

Each user who logs in allows the forum to manage user statistics online, which is also important for the forum. Certainly so important that the year 2013 had the day with the largest number of online users: 7150 - April 10, 2013, 02:12:15 PM. That day, whoever wrote nothing contributed to a historical statistic.

The point with the above is that even those who do shitpost are as a whole a heritage for bitcointalk.org

Consequently, with the above, it does not matter what kind of users you are or want to qualify you, be yourself, although we don't always manage inclusion in being part of a community with the best attitude ,but if you want to insist on belonging, adaptation, follows the BTT ecosystem.

[hatshepsut93]

This forum is for cryptocurrency discussion especially for those who wanted to seek technical help. This is I believe why this forum has been created for this purpose to discuss technical problems that a user will going to encounter in relation to cryptocurrency.

There are Development & Technical Discussion and Bitcoin Technical Support boards for that. This board is a help board too. Most shitposters are actually avoiding these boards, so in terms of more serious technical discussions, this forum is very good.

Bitcoin Discussion, Altcoins, Economics aren't tightly moderated, but IMO that's okay, it's better to have more freedom than having an army of mods deciding if they like a post or not. This isn't some hidden elitist forum, it's an open place for everyone.

Beginners shouldn't be afraid to make bad posts, it's a natural part of the learning process.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I was a bounty hunter and done things on my own (without even reading rules and regulations of the forum). I am here to earn and to learn(learning is not really the priority). I was told that this forum will let you earn instant big rewards from joining projects. Well, it is not really true. Most of the time projects failed and some are even created for scam.

For me, your one-to-one story is similar to my own story on the forum.
The main thing is to stop in time and understand that this forum has much greater opportunities and prospects to gain knowledge about bitcoin than to waste your time on all sorts of scam projects.
When I realized, there is a lot of deceptions in bounty projects, I set myself the goal of clearing the forum from scam and unnecessary absolutely unnecessary information.
I don't know if I am an asset or a liability, but the fact that I like to read the necessary information here, as well as engage in the destruction of cheaters, scammers,  I can definitely say yes.