[SCAM] Sportsbet.io (Withholding funds) [dispute settled]

[Get-Paid.com]

This was showing in the SportsBet.io official thread:

You really need to learn how flags work. It was active only to you and maybe a handful of other users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.msg54892632#msg54892632

[suchmoon]

This was showing in the SportsBet.io official thread:

You really need to learn how flags work. It was active only to you and maybe a handful of other users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.msg54892632#msg54892632

Great. Except:

I don't see it logged in or not. I'm guessing trust list dependent.

That's how flags work. You automatically add 1 "trusted" vote for it when you support it and look at it yourself. For most users it never had +3 support required for that banned to show up.

[Get-Paid.com]

Great. Except:

Except this happened because

LFC_Bitcoin and Nutildah marked they are opposing the flag (hypocrites).

[nutildah]

LFC_Bitcoin and Nutildah marked they are opposing the flag (hypocrites).

How does opposing the flag make me a hypocrite?

I would be a hypocrite if I said "I think Sportsbet is cheating neymarjr12" and then I opposed the flag.

What it boils down to is, as things currently stand, I take their word over neymarjr12's. However, if more evidence were to manifest itself in favor of the accuser or against Sportsbet, then I could withdraw my opposition or potentially even support the flag. This seems highly unlikely, partially based on what the wording of the flag entails, but I remain open minded on the subject.

[JollyGood]

The answer does not have to be = SCAM

Each situation should be judged/assessed on its own merit.

Why do all these issues of multiple accounts come up after a user wins an amount or tries to withdraw - Sportsbet and other websites should have algorithms that start freezing accounts as soon as multiple accounts and breaches are detected because it means as long as users in breach of the ToS are depositing crypto and spending it losing on bets it remains a non-issue but as soon as a win or withdrawal takes place it triggers a breach of ToS

BINGO!

And why is that? Answer =  

[Get-Paid.com]

What it boils down to is, as things currently stand, I take their word over neymarjr12's.

That is fine, and that is your own judgement.

But opposing the flag instead of being neutral (i.e. don't support nor oppose the flag) - that's what makes you hypocrite!

[nutildah]

What it boils down to is, as things currently stand, I take their word over neymarjr12's.

That is fine, and that is your own judgement.

But opposing the flag instead of being neutral (i.e. don't support nor oppose the flag) - that's what makes you hypocrite!

What? No it doesn't. Opposing the flag means I oppose the flag. I've opposed dozens of flags since the introduction of the flag system. Am I a hypocrite for all of those as well? You need to follow suchmoon's advice and read up a little bit on what the flag system is all about.

[Get-Paid.com]

What? No it doesn't. Opposing the flag means I oppose the flag. I've opposed dozens of flags since the introduction of the flag system. Am I a hypocrite for all of those as well? You need to follow suchmoon's advice and read up a little bit on what the flag system is all about.

You realize if you remove your opposition then the big red banner would be back to show up in the official thread of SportsBet.io ?

If they were an individual like you I'd agree with you and wouldn't get involved, but they seem to have an arsenal of "weapons" against accusations.

Why don't you let them take the heat and face the accusation properly (with this big red banner on top) and then let's see how they react?

When you oppose the flag you don't give a real chance to the OP to get this issue resolved.

And that's what hypocrisy is - the practice of claiming to have moral standards but in practice you have none.

Don't protect the bad guys here, it's not worth it.

[JollyGood]

Where is your evidence to back up your claim that they are "a bunch of crooks"?

The answer does not have to be = SCAM
Each situation should be judged/assessed on its own merit.

With the attitude from SportsBet.io so far and the way they handled this case they got 0 sympathy from me, they are bunch of crooks and nothing more than that.

[neymarjr12]

This was showing in the SportsBet.io official thread:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuQNXC65.png&t=615&c=7EABu0C92whsoA

Until LFC_Bitcoin and Nutildah marked they are opposing the flag (hypocrites).

Now the flag was removed from their official thread due to "Insufficient Support".

If you support this accusation please show your support here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2171

Hello! I deposited 70eur to my account and got 370eur after some winnings. After I tried to withdraw for the first time ever and got my withdrawal rejected. I was asked to complete KYC procedure. I sent my local (Russian) passport and bank statement. After that I was asked to complete KYC using Veriff, where I took a picture with my international passport. After a few days security department asked me if I have any other account, which I actually just do not need. After I answered and waited some more days they asked if I know some other players and sent me their accounts (nicknames), which I saw for the first time because I didn’t know any other guys who use their service. After I answered they told that i am trying to launder money and that they will only send my deposit back. I am really angry because they blocked my account and I didn’t receive my winnings! HELP ME PLEASE!

Well, welcome to the club... Maybe the thing is in our nationatility? I'm Russian as well...

[AB de Royse777]

I'm Russian as well...

LOL! I did not know where neymarjr12 was from, until now :-D

[Get-Paid.com]

Where is your evidence to back up your claim that they are "a bunch of crooks"?

I already mentioned it. Their attitude.
They are ignoring claims here. Look how they deliberately ignore neymarjr's requests but happy to push their business as if everything is as usual.

In addition - they now have 2 claims against them.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265366.0

Thirdly - they are asking for way too much KYC and verification and what's not - whilst good operators such as Stake, Roobet and others - you don't even hear 1 single claim about it. How come?!

Do the math.

They are digging themselves a hole, and that's what crooks do - you gotta be blind if you can't see where this is all going to end from here.

[neymarjr12]

LFC_Bitcoin and Nutildah marked they are opposing the flag (hypocrites).

How does opposing the flag make me a hypocrite?

I would be a hypocrite if I said "I think Sportsbet is cheating neymarjr12" and then I opposed the flag.

What it boils down to is, as things currently stand, I take their word over neymarjr12's. However, if more evidence were to manifest itself in favor of the accuser or against Sportsbet, then I could withdraw my opposition or potentially even support the flag. This seems highly unlikely, partially based on what the wording of the flag entails, but I remain open minded on the subject.

What evidence from me do you need?

[suchmoon]

Except this happened because

No. Your support for the flag counts only for you because no one has you in their trust list. So again, for most people the flag did not have +3 support.

You realize if you remove your opposition then the big red banner would be back to show up in the official thread of SportsBet.io ?

Again, only for you and perhaps a few more people who support it. Not for most users. Please stop posting nonsense for a few minutes and go read up on flags: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0

[neymarjr12]

I'm Russian as well...

LOL!
I hope we do get accused of nepotism :-P

To all who are in this conversation, I did not know where neymarjr12 was from, until now :-D

It's not like it is a secret, nobody actually asked

[sportsbet.io]

Hi guys,

After receiving some advice from trusted and experience BTC talk members, it has been decided that there will be one last release of information from sportsbet.io

A couple of senior members have offered their time to review the case. I appreciate them reaching out to us and I full agree to submit them the information that we have on hand.

They will delibirate and make a decision. From that point on, the matter will be finalised either way.

I appreciate the support we have receieved from some members, and im not surprised by the childish, reptitive, boring and lazy reaction of a couple of people on this thread. there is no doubt that those negative users do not have the best interests of BTCTalk threads at heart and are just trying to cash in some way. Please avoid them for your own sanity.

The majority of the BTCTalk community have been instumental in our growth here at sportsbet.io and we continue to have you on board in the very far future!

the last submission of this case will start in the next short while, please be patient and wait for the senior members of this forum to make a decision on the matter.

All the best guys,

regards,

Steve.
sportsbet.io

[neymarjr12]

Hi guys,

After receiving some advice from trusted and experience BTC talk members, it has been decided that there will be one last release of information from sportsbet.io

A couple of senior members have offered their time to review the case. I appreciate them reaching out to us and I full agree to submit them the information that we have on hand.

They will delibirate and make a decision. From that point on, the matter will be finalised either way.

I appreciate the support we have receieved from some members, and im not surprised by the childish, reptitive, boring and lazy reaction of a couple of people on this thread. there is no doubt that those negative users do not have the best interests of BTCTalk threads at heart and are just trying to cash in some way. Please avoid them for your own sanity.

The majority of the BTCTalk community have been instumental in our growth here at sportsbet.io and we continue to have you on board in the very far future!

the last submission of this case will start in the next short while, please be patient and wait for the senior members of this forum to make a decision on the matter.

All the best guys,

regards,

Steve.
sportsbet.io

Finally!!!! Who those senior members would be?

[AB de Royse777]

Finally!!!! Who those senior members would be?

I can assure you that few users are from the following list of yours:

Thanks for heads up! Updated list:
@Royse777
@LFC_Bitcoin
@efialtis
@buwaytress
@SyGambler
@actmyname
@Trofo

Good luck to you and sportsbet.io

[neymarjr12]

I can assure you that few users are from the following list of yours:

Do you mean that you know who is in the final list?

[AB de Royse777]

Do you mean that you know who is in the final list?

Yes I do. Steve is in contact with me, and I am in contact with some others too. Since mindrust already mentioned his involvement, I have no problem to admit it.

We are in process of how it will be conducted and hopefully we will be able to update you soon. Stay online and just to let you know if you do not have a Telegram then please have one. We may need you but not 100% sure yet.