Chinese Uighurs - concentration camps, slave labor

[PrimeNumber7]

First, more evidences of these camps are needed. Unfortunatelly it's very hard to have concrete evidences from what happens behind the curtains in China, as it's a very closed country where the government watches everything going on very closely.

What do you think is going on with the people in the video? There are not many things that could be happening to the people handcuffed, blindfolded and shaven in the video that are not serious human rights violations. In fact, I cannot think of anything that could be happening not involving serious human rights violations.

No one is going to pull out of China because of this. No company (or country, politician, etc) really even cares that its happening. They only pretend to care when the news shines a light on it and people start sharing these horrible videos, which is why politicians know that they have to make a statement about how they're sanctioning some random Chinese officials.

Many companies are already pulling out of China due to the fallout over the Coronavirus, and those that are can add this to the list as to why they are leaving. The NBA is ending its relationship with a training camp in Western China, where all this is happening.

I can see other companies relocate their supply chains out of China over this + the coronavirus. If there is more evidence of forced/slave labor being used to produce other products made in China, I can see more companies pulling out of China.

Trump has been a China hawk since long before he became a politician. As mentioned above, the US cannot simply end its trading relationship with China because we rely on Chines products for much of what we consume, including basic medicine. Most of the China hawks in the Republican party were elected as China hawks, and I don't think they are hawkish to gain a political advantage.

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[uneng]

First, more evidences of these camps are needed. Unfortunatelly it's very hard to have concrete evidences from what happens behind the curtains in China, as it's a very closed country where the government watches everything going on very closely.

What do you think is going on with the people in the video? There are not many things that could be happening to the people handcuffed, blindfolded and shaven in the video that are not serious human rights violations. In fact, I cannot think of anything that could be happening not involving serious human rights violations.

This video solely is too little evidence for a country to act against China, although it's the first evidence of many others that can be find from now on. Keep in mind a country's government can't act like us, individuals, on the internet. They have to act strategically to not give any margins to the other side use this as an excuse to create more issues (like victimizing towards the global community).
China ambassador in UK told on the television he didn't know what was that video showing the prisioners. Then a investigation must be conducted and after some steps I'm sure some countries like US will take proper actions towards China, as Mike Pompeo has already signaled.

If there is something Trump has already let very clear is that he is totally against human trafficking, so I think he won't turn a blind eye to that. But again, more evidences are needed, so China won't have any excuse. It's needed to act on the right time!

[KingScorpio]

The Chinese Ambassador to the UK recently was interviewed on the BBC where he was shown a drone video that purportedly shows Uighurs in Western China blindfolded, shaven and handcuffed being lead into trains. The Ambassador had no good explanation as to what was going on in the video, and the video was obviously taken without the permission of the Chinese government.

Separately, according to a New York Times report, it appears the Chinese government is supplying Uighur slave (forced) labor to Chinese manufacturers of PPE that is sold throughout the world, including the United States.

Both of the above looks very bad on the part of the Chinese government and the CCP. This along with what China is doing to the people of Hong Kong.

How should the world respond to the above reports? Should Western companies pull out of Chinese markets (production and selling their services/merchandise)?

who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.

if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.

or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.

[bryant.coleman]

who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.

Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.

First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.

And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.

[Saltius]

Uighurs in those camps never thought they are Chinese themselves.Op calls them Chinese Uighurs, which would be a potential insult upon them.
Bah, that is exactly why they are arrested and put in the camps for being separatists other than being muslims.

They think they are eastern Turkish people. While the Chinese govt wants to intergrate and assimilate them causing conflicts.
Well, this may still be better than giving them up and handling them in Turkish way. (God saves Armenians)

[KingScorpio]

who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.

Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.

First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.

And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.

well they are religious people, there are more than enough religious people around in a world of 8 Billion there is no need to cry around, muslims should all known that nr.1 rule of islam is

serve no one but god, that includes also not to serve the Umma as that would be some kind of humanism.

[squatz1]

who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.

Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.

First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.

And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.

Yeah China isn’t trying to reintegrate people into their society or anything like that. They’re literally just terrorizing these people because they’re not fitting the whole ‘China #1’ model.

China demands respect from their people. There are videos of them pulling organs out of these peoples bodies while they’re alive.

They’re literally committing another Holocaust and we’re acting like things are fine just so business can continue.

[akram143]

who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.

Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.

First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.

And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.

Yeah China isn’t trying to reintegrate people into their society or anything like that. They’re literally just terrorizing these people because they’re not fitting the whole ‘China #1’ model.

China demands respect from their people. There are videos of them pulling organs out of these peoples bodies while they’re alive.

They’re literally committing another Holocaust and we’re acting like things are fine just so business can continue.

Every religion has their own beliefs but if a particular religion becomes minority in a country then they will face these kind of hell while they are living.And we still have people who generalize muslims are terrorists then why arab countries are being invaded by the white people for tourism and business they too muslims right? We need the leaders who treat every religion equally or else the country is never going to be developed in the right way.

[Strongkored]

Every religion has their own beliefs but if a particular religion becomes minority in a country then they will face these kind of hell while they are living.And we still have people who generalize muslims are terrorists then why arab countries are being invaded by the white people for tourism and business they too muslims right? We need the leaders who treat every religion equally or else the country is never going to be developed in the right way.

It is true and it happens in all countries that minorities will experience unpleasant things but the levels will vary depending on how the government protects its citizens, even though never guarantee 100% of minorities get their rights.

[akram143]

Every religion has their own beliefs but if a particular religion becomes minority in a country then they will face these kind of hell while they are living.And we still have people who generalize muslims are terrorists then why arab countries are being invaded by the white people for tourism and business they too muslims right? We need the leaders who treat every religion equally or else the country is never going to be developed in the right way.

It is true and it happens in all countries that minorities will experience unpleasant things but the levels will vary depending on how the government protects its citizens, even though never guarantee 100% of minorities get their rights.

Yes it depends on the rules of government, they always use religion as a think to collect their vote banks even in India this is happening for the last 8 years the current ruling party has their own organisation which says their country belongs to one religion and all other people should be moved to other countries.

[Subbir]

It is not only within the case of china but also in other countries that a variety of minority people are bereft of their rights thanks to this religion with India america carries the identity of individuals on the idea of faith and caste. it's usually built by the govt of the country this number of minor people wouldn't be bereft of their rights if the govt demanded equal rights for all political institutions exercise their power because the system of the state is weak.

[franky1]

do you know to be a naturalised US citizen you have to
study english both verbally and written
study american history
study the us government

be tested for all of this
and then swear an oath of allegiance to the US

oh and you wont get to be american if you dont swear allegience or if you have more then a couple petty crimes (like DUI/speeding tickets) or any serious crimes

in 10 years 8.5mill went through america's 'naturalisation' process.

so i know many think that people just get of a plane and they instantly treated like americans. im sorry to inform you that america has a naturalisation process

the US put ~400k people into ICE detention centres

lets put it into prospective
if chinas 1/4bill pop has only 1mill detained (0.07%)
americas 320m has 400k detained(0.125%)

kinda looks bad for US when you put things into prospective