Has crypto been overtaken by bleeding heart liberals?

[Infectiphibian]

I thought Bitcoin was created as a Libertarian f_ck you to the Federal Reserve and centralized banking. All I see now is "think about the poor people in -insert country here-". One of the latest ones, Nigeriacoin wants us sympathize for criminals. Maplecoin wants to save an already stable economy. The saddest part of all is that my fellow Americans think that indian tribes are actual sovereign nations. They are no more sovereign that California or Texas. If the Lakota Nation was truly sovereign and wished to have there own currency, they would already have there own fiat.

Now for all of you bleeding heart liberals that think they are making a difference, thank you for allowing me to dump my -insert national shitcoin here- on you.

[SifuPhil]

Actually, Federally-recognized Native American tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States and ARE seen as being sovereign nations.

For all the good it does them ...   

[Spoetnik]

they are a ploy to mask nothing more than yet another ponzi scheme.. a mew coin to clone and pump and dump.
it is a new angle of sorts ..they will find other excuses too

and it sickens me and blows me away that people get involved with this crap too.. look at Cryptsy adding AUR and how it 's worth $14.50 usd each right this minute.
what the hell does that tell you ? You think any of these greedy dick heads give two shits about the people of Iceland ?

we're watching they demise of crypto and it's going to take Bitcoin itself down with it too.
short term all kinds of jerks will make as much as they can and when things get bad they will hide and vanish and walk away bragging about the Lambo's
..while standing on the necks of the people they suckered and drained dry .

[Infectiphibian]

Actually, Federally-recognized Native American tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States and ARE seen as being sovereign nations.

For all the good it does them ...    

Like I stated, so is California and Texas. The Constitution grants only the Federal government the authority to "coin." There is no exemption to Native Americans outside of treaties. If they had a need for their own currency, they would already have it.

[Wipeout2097]

LOL, you Americans crack me up! 

[Chris001]

NO

Crypto is just getting started. The demise of crypto. Lol

Youre entitled to your opinion. Mine is that this is only the beginning

[braane]

I thought Bitcoin was created as a Libertarian f_ck you to the Federal Reserve and centralized banking. All I see know is "think about the poor people in -insert country here-". One of the latest ones, Nigeriacoin wants us sympathize for criminals. Maplecoin wants to save an already stable economy. The saddest part of all is that my fellow Americans think that indian tribes are actual sovereign nations. They are no more sovereign that California or Texas. If the Lakota Nation was truly sovereign and wished to have there own currency, they would already have there own fiat.

Now for all of you bleeding heart liberals that think they are making a difference, thank you for allowing me to dump my -insert national shitcoin here- on you.

Well, it's really more people going in with a plan to get rich under the guise of 'think about the poor people'. I don't think any of the country/nation coin creators actually care about their supposed cause.

[kalus]

Maplecoin wants to save an already stable economy.

lol america jr.

[Infectiphibian]

NO

Crypto is just getting started. The demise of crypto. Lol

Youre entitled to your opinion. Mine is that this is only the beginning

I agree that this is just the beginning. It is still an experiment, yet too many people think that it is the solution already. At best, crypto is competition to Visa and Western Union. It is currency when you can collect and pay in crypto without conversion. That day is a long way down the road.

I just don't understand the total lack of economic knowledge that I see around country coins. The concept of a decentralized currency helping a centralize society doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. With half the supply in speculators hands, not the government, nor the people will be able to control their own economy.

[LostDutchman]

I thought Bitcoin was created as a Libertarian f_ck you to the Federal Reserve and centralized banking. All I see now is "think about the poor people in -insert country here-". One of the latest ones, Nigeriacoin wants us sympathize for criminals. Maplecoin wants to save an already stable economy. The saddest part of all is that my fellow Americans think that indian tribes are actual sovereign nations. They are no more sovereign that California or Texas. If the Lakota Nation was truly sovereign and wished to have there own currency, they would already have there own fiat.

Now for all of you bleeding heart liberals that think they are making a difference, thank you for allowing me to dump my -insert national shitcoin here- on you.

You are pretty much on target and if the "We Want Bitcoin To Change The World" knuckleheads would bother to read the original bitcoin abstsract, they would find that you are indeed correct in your assertions.

The abstract may be found here:

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

By "bringing bitcoin to The World" they are in point of fact, defeating the original intent but they don't let that stop them!  We had a good thing and they are making am mess of it.

If they want to "change the world" maybe they should go live on a Kibbutz or join the Peace Corps but in any case, they should get the Hell out of crypto!

My $.02.

[Chris001]

NO

Crypto is just getting started. The demise of crypto. Lol

Youre entitled to your opinion. Mine is that this is only the beginning

I agree that this is just the beginning. It is still an experiment, yet too many people think that it is the solution already. At best, crypto is competition to Visa and Western Union. It is currency when you can collect and pay in crypto without conversion. That day is a long way down the road.

I just don't understand the total lack of economic knowledge that I see around country coins. The concept of a decentralized currency helping a centralize society doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. With half the supply in speculators hands, not the government, nor the people will be able to control their own economy.

You have coins like Darkcoin which is trying to fix a real problem. You have Nxt and Nem and the like that are actually bringing in new things and are not just copies with a new marketing spin.

Even Devcoin and a few others have something different that is unique to their coin.

Then you have the rest that may be trying to say they are going to become widely used, and will be the next big thing, or will actually go mainstream and be used by the general public. If someone has some they convince themselves that this will happen. They have a boatload. They pull out the calculator and see that million dollars jump off the calculator and into their bank account.

Then two weeks go by and they sell for a 75% loss. Then they do it all over again. Or they get hip to the pump and dump game and start to make a few bucks. Some of these scam/pump&dump coins even admit right from the start that they are for "speculation".

It is what it is. But the crypto world isn't going anywhere. It will all run its course. In the end I believe it will only be stronger because of it.

The sky is not falling. And don't hope that people stop making scamcoins. I wish I could make 100,000 of them right now. The more there are, the less relevant they become. Once there is 5000 coins they will all be nothing. The more there are the better because then they will fade into each other more and more.

A new coin will have to BE something to be even noticed. This is already starting to happen.

[wrongsideof30]

Actually, Federally-recognized Native American tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States and ARE seen as being sovereign nations.

For all the good it does them ...    

Like I stated, so is California and Texas. The Constitution grants only the Federal government the authority to "coin." There is no exemption to Native Americans outside of treaties. If they had a need for their own currency, they would already have it.

Ummmm, they do mint their own currency.

http://www.freelakotabank.com/lakota-currency/

"Additionally, we authorize the private minting of our own private currency"

[Infectiphibian]

Actually, Federally-recognized Native American tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States and ARE seen as being sovereign nations.

For all the good it does them ...    

Like I stated, so is California and Texas. The Constitution grants only the Federal government the authority to "coin." There is no exemption to Native Americans outside of treaties. If they had a need for their own currency, they would already have it.

Ummmm, they do mint their own currency.

http://www.freelakotabank.com/lakota-currency/

"Additionally, we authorize the private minting of our own private currency"

Their "currency" is as authentic as coins from the Franklin Mint. They are worth their weight in gold and silver, nothing more. I do encourage them to trade in precious metals instead of fiat, which the website states that is their goal.

"We encourage you to negotiate the best exchange rate from your national currency to Lakota or any other reputably-minted .999 fine silver." That means good luck getting what you paid for it.

[kelsey]

Actually, Federally-recognized Native American tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States and ARE seen as being sovereign nations.

For all the good it does them ...    

Like I stated, so is California and Texas. The Constitution grants only the Federal government the authority to "coin." There is no exemption to Native Americans outside of treaties. If they had a need for their own currency, they would already have it.

Under International Law all indigenous populations have the right to adopt their own currency independent of their host nations (granted most host nations ignore international laws).

 

[Infectiphibian]

Actually, Federally-recognized Native American tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States and ARE seen as being sovereign nations.

For all the good it does them ...    

Like I stated, so is California and Texas. The Constitution grants only the Federal government the authority to "coin." There is no exemption to Native Americans outside of treaties. If they had a need for their own currency, they would already have it.

Under International Law all indigenous populations have the right to adopt their own currency independent of their host nations (granted most host nations ignore international laws).

 

And it should be that way, but the US has more of a "sit down and shut up" approach when it comes to respecting others rights. Native Americans in California couldn't even have casinos until the state put it up for vote. That is not very sovern when the state gets the final say on what the indigenous people can and can't do on there own land.

[vleroybrown]

Yall want to care about how others views in the way it affects a perception of p2pcoin currency specifically Bitcoin.  Haha maybe you should go back to USDs if you don't care about the 6 billion people that are not banked with a internationally trusted and recognized financial system. Treating people as charity is wrong but empowering entire populations to participate in an economic systems. This is the most important invention of the 21st century so far bare none.    Did yall ever stop to think how close minded talking about this makes you seem.  What Bitcoin is to anybody else doesn't concern you and certainly doesn't hurt the adoption, that's completely beyond your simpleness. 

[xbudahx]

OP is like 13 years old and has no clue how the world works

[Infectiphibian]

Yall want to care about how others views in the way it affects a perception of p2pcoin currency specifically Bitcoin.  Haha maybe you should go back to USDs if you don't care about the 6 billion people that are not banked with a internationally trusted and recognized financial system. Treating people as charity is wrong but empowering entire populations to participate in an economic systems. This is the most important invention of the 21st century so far bare none.    Did yall ever stop to think how close minded talking about this makes you seem.  What Bitcoin is to anybody else doesn't concern you and certainly doesn't hurt the adoption, that's completely beyond your simpleness. 

Closed minded, no. Realistic, yes. I see the bleeding heart liberals are starting to join the discussion. You do realize that very few people even know what Bitcoin is, let alone understand how crypto can be a good thing. What are you doing on the forum anyway? Don't you have a sociology class to be studying for?

[Infectiphibian]

OP is like 13 years old and has no clue how the world works

Prove me wrong about anything I've said. With facts, not your opinions. Go read the economic theory of what Bitcoin is about. Go study what rights Native Americans really have. Then get a clue why the value of all of these shitcoins keeps crashing. I do thank you for your money though. I don't need a job when I make enough money taking advantage of you bleeding heart fools.

[Nxtblg]

Then you have the rest that may be trying to say they are going to become widely used, and will be the next big thing, or will actually go mainstream and be used by the general public. If someone has some they convince themselves that this will happen. They have a boatload. They pull out the calculator and see that million dollars jump off the calculator and into their bank account.

Then two weeks go by and they sell for a 75% loss. Then they do it all over again. Or they get hip to the pump and dump game and start to make a few bucks. Some of these scam/pump&dump coins even admit right from the start that they are for "speculation".

Try spending some time watching penny-stock mining-exploration juniors and you'll see exactly the same phenomenon. That, in a thoroughly regulated market.

In a way it's tragic, but you can't regulate the greedy/gullible/hive-mind side of human nature. You can only ban it outright, and even then it squeezes through elsewhere.