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July 22, 2020, 05:03:30 PM
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Hello, I want to sell something that costs $ 1 but that amount is very low. And question is: Can the person to buy send me $1 bitcoin? Is Binance suitable for the process?
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July 22, 2020, 05:05:31 PM
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Can the person to buy send me $1 bitcoin?
Yes. Though this would only be a good idea if you're a using a wallet whereas you can choose your own transaction fees.

Is Binance suitable for the process?
Binance[1] has a withdrawal fee of 0.0004 BTC, which is around $3.74 in current prices, so that really wouldn't be a good idea. In fact, withdrawing $1 on any exchange wouldn't be a good idea because exchanges has a constant withdrawal fee regardless of the withdrawal amount.


[1] https://www.binance.com/en/fee/deposit

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July 22, 2020, 05:18:58 PM
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Can the person to buy send me $1 bitcoin?
Yes. Though this would only be a good idea if you're a using a wallet whereas you can choose your own transaction fees.

Is Binance suitable for the process?
Binance[1] has a withdrawal fee of 0.0004 BTC, which is around $3.74 in current prices, so that really wouldn't be a good idea. In fact, withdrawing $1 on any exchange wouldn't be a good idea because exchanges has a constant withdrawal fee regardless of the withdrawal amount.


[1] https://www.binance.com/en/fee/deposit

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July 22, 2020, 05:37:38 PM
Last edit: July 22, 2020, 05:56:20 PM by hosseinimr93
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As stated by mk4, neither Binance nor any other exchange can be a good choice.
You should use a wallet which allows you to set the fee manually. Also, for lowering the fee, you should use a wallet which supports segwit addresses.

I recommend you to use Electrum. (https://electrum.org/)

Note:
1. Download Electrum only from its official website.
2. Select "Native segwit" as the script type when creating the wallet.
3. Keep the seed phrase Electrum gives you very secure.

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July 22, 2020, 06:12:59 PM
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In Bitcoin, the minimum amount you can send in a transaction is 1 Satoshi which 0.00000001 btc. But you have to consider that mining fee is necessary to get your transaction confirmed, and the fee depends on the status of the actual network even you have the ability to set one satoshi per byte.
What i want to explain for you op is YES you can send the one dollar btc in a transaction, but as the amount is too small, some custodial wallets set a minimum to be sent in one transaction. So maybe the client you use doesn't allow you. Better to use Electrum as suggested above.
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July 22, 2020, 06:29:03 PM
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Hello, I want to sell something that costs $ 1 but that amount is very low. And question is: Can the person to buy send me $1 bitcoin? Is Binance suitable for the process?

It might be cheaper and more reasonable to use another currency for this such as ltc or eth to cut the fees even lower (although eth's fees might have been pumped by defi so ltc might be a good coin to use).

Btc is only good wiht smaller payments, as the others have said, if you can control the fees but a low fee of a few cents makes for a slow transaction time.
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July 22, 2020, 06:46:35 PM
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In Bitcoin, the minimum amount you can send in a transaction is 1 Satoshi which 0.00000001 btc.
No. You cannot send 1 satoshi.
For preventing the network from being spammed, such small outputs are considered as dust and nodes reject the transaction.

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July 22, 2020, 08:46:30 PM
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I think the best option for a small transaction using the third service when they provide a merchant option.

You can be directed to your buyer by using some application to paying through the app when they provide a merchant payment. This could be an option by doing the internal transactions for a small transaction without getting any fee at all. Then try to look some app who has converted option to other cryptos, if you feels the bitcoin transaction fee from the merchant was too high for you by only sending a small fund you can use another user by using other altcoins to send the fund with a small fee.

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July 23, 2020, 02:12:00 AM
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Hello, I want to sell something that costs $ 1 but that amount is very low. And question is: Can the person to buy send me $1 bitcoin? Is Binance suitable for the process?

The minimum amount to send is 1 satoshi, so until 1 Bitcoin = $100 millions, yes - you can send $1. However, this assumes that the sender uses their own wallet and isn't sending coins from exchanges. If it is the latter, then it depends on an exchange. Most of them have unreasonably high Bitcoin withdrawal fees that make withdrawals equivalent to $1 impractical.

Try looking at the Lightning Network, it's available on the mainnet, though it's still not officially released, but some merchants already integrated it.
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July 23, 2020, 02:16:26 AM
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Can you make suggestion to bitcoin wallet? and thanks

It's really going to depend on what your needs are. Here's a great tool you can use though: https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

In general though, probably BlueWallet[1] for a mobile wallet, and a Ledger Nano S/X[2] for long term holdings.


[1] https://bluewallet.io/
[2] https://ledger.com/

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July 23, 2020, 02:38:43 AM
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The minimum amount to send is 1 satoshi
If I can remember correctly, the minimum amount to send is above 500 satoshi. 1 satoshi can be sent through offchain network Lightning or with coinbase only. OP never accepts a tx with 0 confirmation, the fee is very high at the moment and there is a chance of fraud if you receive 0 confirmation although $1 is too low to attempt that.

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July 23, 2020, 02:43:07 AM
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With these types of transactions, I think the best way is to have a custodial wallet that runs in the same network and save fees doing it. Most of the custodial wallets would not get fees when it is just between the same wallet. For our country, coins.ph is a great way to send money and it wouldn't ask fees if it is going to be sent to another person using the coins.ph wallet as well.

It's not ideal to use custodial wallets if you have large amounts of coins, but it's certainly helpful when transacting to another person using the same service with that. Maybe you have something like that in your place.

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July 23, 2020, 03:32:33 AM
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In Bitcoin, the minimum amount you can send in a transaction is 1 Satoshi which 0.00000001 btc.
No. You cannot send 1 satoshi.
For preventing the network from being spammed, such small outputs are considered as dust and nodes reject the transaction.

there are 2 matters that should not be confused here. the standard rules and the consensus rules. i believe @coupable had consensus rules when wrote that comment.
as far as validity is concerned (the consensus rules) the minimum amount that a transaction output can have is zero with zero fee. but as far as standard rules are concerned (the preference that a node applies which it can change at any time) the minimum is higher around 500 which is dust limit

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July 23, 2020, 06:04:06 AM
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Binance transaction fee is more than  1 dollar. And it doesn't sound good to make 1 dollar transaction with a fee of more than the actual amount transacted.

If OP use another coin then it can be cheaper. XLM is usually used for this purpose, or BNB if that's available already. Still, $1 is considerably small, might as well try LN.

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July 23, 2020, 07:21:30 AM
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I agree with most that has been said, but still wanted to chip in/expand/combine some of the points that have already been made.

$1 is about 0.0001051 BTC at current exchange rate. In an "allmost" ideal situation, at this point you'll need to pay about 24 sat/vbyte as a fee, a one input 2 output tx will result in a fee of 0.00004224 BTC (about 40 cents). This means you'll pay about 40% on top of your $1 in order to have a decent chance of seeing your transaction end up in one of the next couple of blocks IF you use a decent wallet.
If you use an exchange wallet, you'll probably pay a lot more.

Your options are:
  • Pay in advance: if you'll do repeated business with the seller AND you can trust him/her completely, pay him $50 in BTC for future products/services
  • Use the lightning network: not 100% stable, but defenately good enough to have a channel funded with the equivalent of $50 (or a little less). Electrum supports the lightning network now, and there are several good mobile lightning wallets (i used eclair in the past, and it worked flawlessly)
  • Switch to an altcoin... I usually use ETH or LTC when i need to pay near-dust amounts... Faster, commonly accepted but their network isn't backed by quite as much hashpower... But for a $1 transaction, who cares Smiley
  • I would strongly discourage this, but you could also go for a 0-fee-between-customers custodial wallet. This should be your very last resort: not your keys, not your funds...

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July 23, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
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My senior colleagues here had answered your question is a different ways for easy clarifications. I don't want to spam with same answers but would just advise you to implore on what you have been told and keep it part of you. Download appropriate wallets that supports self adjustment of transaction fees if you not in a hurry for confirmation. Success as you take correction.
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July 23, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
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I think that you can even send $0.5 with 0 satoshi transaction fee but I think it will never be confirmed on the blockchain

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July 23, 2020, 02:42:58 PM
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I think that you can even send $0.5 with 0 satoshi transaction fee but I think it will never be confirmed on the blockchain
That is not possible with Binance as there's a fee.
When bitcoin value rises, it was not anymore suitable for micro transactions, I am using electrum wallet and sometimes I have to pay a transaction fee of $1 or more just to for the transaction to confirm faster. For Binance they have a fix amount of withdrawal fee regardless of the amount, see above posts.

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July 23, 2020, 03:07:21 PM
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Hello, I want to sell something that costs $ 1 but that amount is very low.
If what you want to sell is altcoin that you get from airdrop or bounty supported by the ethereum platform, then consider the shipping transaction fee. The cost of gas that you will endure today may be almost half of the total price of the asset you have because you have to bear the 80 GWEI or $0.444 gas cost as standard gas which mean you will only get $0.55 if you sell directly to someone "not on the exchange". Its a good idea to forget about these assets and try to get something else.

And question is: Can the person to buy send me $1 bitcoin?
Maybe someone can do it, but of course the fees used for this transaction do not match the price of the asset you have.

Is Binance suitable for the process?
Very unlikely because exchange have the lowest limit for trading. The minimum deposit amount and also the minimum trade amount of each asset are clearly different and this transaction will never occur in my opinion because you only have $1 as the total value of the asset. The best idea is to forget this transaction.

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July 23, 2020, 04:58:59 PM
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An exchange wallet like Binance won't help in this case, even exchanges in general because of their withdrawal minimum and transfer fee. A wallet like Mycellium or Electrum is very handy here. You can customize your fee and send micro payments.
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