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August 26, 2020, 11:27:45 PM
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Bounty still pays and worth it, personally I joined Bounty this year and I made sure I I do all the campaigns when I joined and I adhere to it, I also make sure that I choose the projects I run their Bounty very carefully
that's true and some campaign has been paying its participants. It looks like he needs to visit the bounty thread and try to search the legit bounty and some bounties like dia has already paid its hunters with a lot of money dude.

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August 27, 2020, 01:08:10 AM
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that's true and some campaign has been paying its participants. It looks like he needs to visit the bounty thread and try to search the legit bounty and some bounties like dia has already paid its hunters with a lot of money dude.
but it is very difficult to find a bounty campaign that pays a lot, the allocation of large prizes at the beginning does not mean that bounty participants will get prizes according to expectations, many factors can affect such as the number of bounty participants.
fyi, the DIA bounty prize has not been paid, participants need to wait 30 days after the bonding curve

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August 27, 2020, 01:18:22 AM
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Bounty play important role in any project but the question of if it's still worth or not so offcourse their are many changes happend in bounty since 2017. Nowdays it's hard to find legit bounty campaign because many projects starts with positive vibes and end up with zero valued. In this case bounty participants loose their hard work and time. So it's important to research before joining any bounty campaign. Bounty participants also responsible if project got scammed people. So bounty participants also need to insure theirself that project is legit and behind the project team are not wrong people. Good project gives good compensation for bounty participants.

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August 27, 2020, 01:50:17 AM
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that's true and some campaign has been paying its participants. It looks like he needs to visit the bounty thread and try to search the legit bounty and some bounties like dia has already paid its hunters with a lot of money dude.
but it is very difficult to find a bounty campaign that pays a lot, the allocation of large prizes at the beginning does not mean that bounty participants will get prizes according to expectations, many factors can affect such as the number of bounty participants.
fyi, the DIA bounty prize has not been paid, participants need to wait 30 days after the bonding curve

If you are observant in looking at project bounties, you can find projects that really pay on time, look for bounties that promise payment every week, or pay with bitcoin or etherium.


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August 27, 2020, 02:10:04 AM
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The hope of finding a valid project is still, however, honestly difficult to find serious projects, this is the problem! Before, you also made money with projects without ico, today everything has changed! But we must never give up, we must always hope for some good project.

Do your research and carefully analyze every project that you are targeting to participate. It's hard but it's still possible
to find good bounties that pays good / decent compensations.


there's a lot of bounties at the moment and it is really hard to filter out which campaign or bounty is still worth it some projects is good but the price of their token is not also there is a lot of bounty hunters here so if all of them sell their tokens the profit you will get will be very small.

Half true but shouldn't be like that, if the developers are serious with the project, small percentage of bounty allocations won't hurt the actual value of the coins.

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August 27, 2020, 02:52:23 AM
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Bounty play important role in any project but the question of if it's still worth or not so offcourse their are many changes happend in bounty since 2017. Nowdays it's hard to find legit bounty campaign because many projects starts with positive vibes and end up with zero valued. In this case bounty participants loose their hard work and time. So it's important to research before joining any bounty campaign. Bounty participants also responsible if project got scammed people. So bounty participants also need to insure theirself that project is legit and behind the project team are not wrong people. Good project gives good compensation for bounty participants.
It's not hard to find bounties especially there are tens or even more of them at the same time. But finding the good one is kinda hard. It's like once on a blue moon you get to find a good bounty that pays you well enough. The bad ones? It's easy to encounter them actually. Even with yout research there's no saying that it's def a good ones and the bad ones doesn't always bad. It's hard but there's still hope, though it might be just a little. Especially if the payments are from their own new alts, then it's a bit nerved wracking since you don't know whether it's tradable or has any value or will just become another junkcoin.
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August 27, 2020, 03:11:48 AM
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We all know that we can get free bucks on these "bounties" since a long time ago. But today, is it still worth it hence there are so many cryptocurrencies like millions of them I i'm correct.
I wonder for you guys who always participate in bounties, I really want to know your portfolio's.

Pls no shitpost here for your signature campaign thing so people know your real opinion.

Despite the fact that bounties are not as lucrative as they were, we still have to manage what we earn. The major set back is working for so long and not getting anything from the project, or getting worthless tokens which cannot be exchanged for fiat eventually. I feel really bad when people look down on bounty hunters because I'm aware that hunters are contributing their own quarter in the realization of a decentralized financial system.
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August 27, 2020, 03:27:28 AM
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We all know that we can get free bucks on these "bounties" since a long time ago. But today, is it still worth it hence there are so many cryptocurrencies like millions of them I i'm correct.
I wonder for you guys who always participate in bounties, I really want to know your portfolio's.

Pls no shitpost here for your signature campaign thing so people know your real opinion.

Look back to the market in 2017-2018, bounty hunters could get a substantial amount of money because almost projects would be listed at small exchanges and we can sell them immediately, even though after that they were almost disappear, but the income was quite good. But now, I see that the bounty hunters is quite difficult to earn income like before

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August 27, 2020, 03:57:34 AM
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Recently, many bounties have good criteria and will pay according to their promises. I have analyzed several aspects of the assessment. one of them is the bounty held by Idena.
Yes cartesi, dia, oikos, are the top projects Ive seen performing good on the market and they all have bounty here on forum. Sometimes it just a matter of good research before you can land on a good project. I am expecting a good outcome for my signature but also taking a risk provided the team is anonymous. But the concept is good and must have potential.

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August 27, 2020, 03:58:25 AM
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depending on the project. for now I am quite satisfied with the bounty, it's just that not all bounties can pay properly. however, for now, payments over $ 100 are fine. however, I am still looking forward to a bounty that has a good concept, so that the products they sell are of reasonable quality and price.


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August 27, 2020, 04:11:35 AM
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Look back to the market in 2017-2018, bounty hunters could get a substantial amount of money because almost projects would be listed at small exchanges and we can sell them immediately, even though after that they were almost disappear, but the income was quite good. But now, I see that the bounty hunters is quite difficult to earn income like before
You're right, gone the days that bounties are still profitable.
Its hard to spot a good bounties nowadays, and if you find any the problem is there's a limited spot for participants thus joining is not easy too. Thats why its better to find another resources to gain profit in crypto like improving your skills to get another opportunity not just in bounties.

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August 27, 2020, 05:06:42 AM
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talking about the bounty or income from the bounty project this year, for me personally it hasn't produced a commensurate reward even when promoting the previous project only earned $ 16 in 2 months. and currently I'm taking part in the Payaccept project, if you are interested you can join in it.

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August 27, 2020, 05:36:29 AM
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Especially the signature campaign. There are so many people who joined the campaign, yes as far i know this is the easiest job. But, for me from a different perspective as a potential investor, I would ran to Google and find a freshly picked top and recommended ICO's.
Finding ICOs in Google would just give you sometimes a lot of ICOs with just paid ratings and reviews. I am not sure where you find yours but from my top results, one would be from those in ICOBench where I don't trust a lot of ratings there actually.
Signature camps are the easiest and sometimes the most profitable among other parts of the bounty because it is focused here in the forum, unlike social media where majority of your friends don't have any idea what content you're sharing, makes less likely for investors to join the said program and invest.

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August 27, 2020, 05:51:07 AM
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It's really hard to find a bounty that pays the hunters right, but there are still few out there who are good at paying, just in time. It would be better if we do not expect too much from what we earn here and we should have other source of income.

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August 27, 2020, 05:58:00 AM
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It's really hard to find a bounty that pays the hunters right, but there are still few out there who are good at paying, just in time. It would be better if we do not expect too much from what we earn here and we should have other source of income.


Regarding the income from the Bounty campaign is uncertain or cannot be used as your passive income. That's why I always say not to rely on bounty income. many projects end up fraudulent, unpaid, slow distribution etc., if you have a family then it is better to focus on real world work and make bounty your side job.

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August 27, 2020, 06:43:28 AM
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for me it all depends on how much luck is with you.
if you have free time to do why not use it for something useful.

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August 27, 2020, 06:57:02 AM
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We all know that we can get free bucks on these "bounties" since a long time ago. But today, is it still worth it hence there are so many cryptocurrencies like millions of them I i'm correct.
I wonder for you guys who always participate in bounties, I really want to know your portfolio's.

Pls no shitpost here for your signature campaign thing so people know your real opinion.
You can easily find out yourself if there is a bounty project with good Campaign that's presently running, all you have to do is go to bounties section on the forum and do research on any bounty project you see, for me there isn't any worth my time presently than oikos bounty

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August 27, 2020, 06:58:50 AM
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Also you need to be careful with DeFi bounty projects, I've seen few bad DeFi projects on this forum that have already introduced a Campaign, be careful, the only legit or genuine DeFi projects that introduced bounty campaigns are OIkos and DIA and presently it's too late to join these bounties

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August 27, 2020, 07:11:00 AM
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Actually hunters mostly sell their reward as soon as they get them so I don't think many of them have any portfolio and its not as much profit as it was before. So there is still some good campaign that gives hunters a big profit but its very few. Maybe you will see only 2 or 3 projects like this every year. But something is better than nothing at all.
This is normal what do you want to do on your tokens instead? My principle is simple if the profits earned is okay for me then I will sell it already no need to hold if the tokens are in negative stance.

But if I trusted the project then I will simply hold the tokens and wait for the right timing simply like that.
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August 27, 2020, 07:11:09 AM
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We all know that we can get free bucks on these "bounties" since a long time ago. But today, is it still worth it hence there are so many cryptocurrencies like millions of them I i'm correct.
I wonder for you guys who always participate in bounties, I really want to know your portfolio's.

Pls no shitpost here for your signature campaign thing so people know your real opinion.
I go on vacation early this year from doing bounty campaign I Only have 6 back then and it's a waste of time because they are useless coins keep checking the bounty campaign sections and until now there are a lot there that I think will not have potential because they are so similar in the projects that I used to promote.

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