BetKing sponsors kenya football , is it a publicity stunt ?

[maydna]

I don't think so. I couldn't really find any proper source for them being different, but I looked up both of their websites in simplywhois, and Betking.com is a LOT older than Betking.io. Betking.com was made back in 2001 and .io was made in 2015. If we were to consider Betking.io using another domain to avoid their mess back then, then shouldn't be the .com site younger? Well, there's a chance that Betking.com made Betking.io for purely crypto transactions/bettings but that would also be questionable since I see no need to actually separate them.

I also found this

We are looking to raise investment so we can develop more products including our own provably fair casino games such as blackjack, slots and roulette.
Funds will also go towards developing a sports betting platform, poker software as well as a host of other gambling related products and services.

It was in the Betking.io ANN thread, and if it says that they're just going to develop a sports betting platform, doesn't that mean that it really isn't them?

We don't know how good and popular betking.com compare to betking.io, but if one site becomes popular, it will be normal if someone wants to create a website by using almost similar domain with the real website to trick people out there. With the logo that is almost the same, people can get scam by the fake site because some people will not check if that site is real or not.


If a website can become a sponsor to one local event, and that is related to many people and companies, I think that website will not try to scam them because it will relate to the website's reputation. If Betking.com wants to make something different from the other site, I think they will not try to do something bad. Perhaps, the other even sponsor or the event organizer will recheck everything before they continue the event, and they will make something if they found a mistake or sign of the scam. We will see it later.

[Reid]

I think I'll consider this a good news if I don't know the reputation of BetKing in the forum, but no.. a scam site always have a dark reason behind the action. For those who don't know about the site, they can check the account in the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024.

Exactly! For those that don't know their history, their move is great! However, a lot of us here in the forum know the truth about their profile. So I am assuming it is only a publicity stunt, maybe to rectify their bad reputation. But they need to address first their old issues before spending a lot of money to some sports team.

I am part of those who don't know their history.
At first glance of the OP's news it really look great and I almost tried to say it is.
But, from all the replies of the members then I think it is not a great news but instead it was bad news.

If they can grow their advertisement up to this extent then more will be victims of the scams they did.
We don't want that to happen. We don't want new victims for their new scam attempts.
How could we help others to not step on the same floor which other had experienced already?
Maybe report them with proofs?

[Fundamentals Of]

I think I'll consider this a good news if I don't know the reputation of BetKing in the forum, but no.. a scam site always have a dark reason behind the action. For those who don't know about the site, they can check the account in the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024.

Exactly! For those that don't know their history, their move is great! However, a lot of us here in the forum know the truth about their profile. So I am assuming it is only a publicity stunt, maybe to rectify their bad reputation. But they need to address first their old issues before spending a lot of money to some sports team.

I am part of those who don't know their history.
At first glance of the OP's news it really look great and I almost tried to say it is.
But, from all the replies of the members then I think it is not a great news but instead it was bad news.

If they can grow their advertisement up to this extent then more will be victims of the scams they did.
We don't want that to happen. We don't want new victims for their new scam attempts.
How could we help others to not step on the same floor which other had experienced already?
Maybe report them with proofs?

We need to look for ways to spread the truth. It can be done by simply making comments in news sites, social media sites, and other venues. Make sure to link as many proofs as possible.

That is what is happening right here in this thread and it is very possible. Comments are making other people aware of the dark history of BetKing. At first impression an online casino sponsoring a national football is really big news. It is a welcome development for the sports, the country, and for crypto gambling. But with all the comments people are making, we are given a heads up that something dark might actually be brewing beneath all this publicity stunt.

[shoreno]

so am i right that betking has a bad record before  . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name  . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money  , the money can came from thier bad deeds   .  if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad  . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal  .

[avikz]

Betking scammed me for $700. There's no way they have 11 million to spend.

Or your $700 might have already formed part of that $11 million. And because they must have scammed a good deal of people, they have already accumulated that huge amount to try to build back their image in the crypto gambling industry. Which is futile. The ghosts of the past will haunt them no end until appeased.

And for Kenya Football Federation, they better ask for the check and have it cleared first before going any further with the deal. That should be the only way to deal with BetKing. Better safe than sorry.

Here is casino is betking.com and not betking.io. I understand your confusion because I had the same reaction when I first looked at the news. Betking.io is a scam website and if you check their reviews, you will see stories from people who have been scammed by them.

But Betking.com seems like legit sports betting operator. Even though you can see some scam acquisitions for Betking.com as well, but mostly the reviews are positive. If you have read the comments above, you could have find out that the sponsor is Betking.com and not Betking.io!   

[btc78]

First of all, I want to say that I have not seen many positive comments about the service you mentioned.  Also, it is useful to know at the end that since the football league you mentioned belongs to the small country, there is a possibility that the bets made with match-fixing and similar events will affect the match result.  For this reason, I do not recommend you to use the service you mentioned or bet on the matches in this league.

Who cares about this everything when the sponsor is scammer?this maybe their stunt but for sure many will question the sincerity and how this will turn out.
Betking is proven scammer so there is no way that  there will be too many question that will throw against this game.

and who knows that there will be manipulation in this event?
i don't know but i care  nothing about this ,because there are many sports that i can get into and more popular than  Kenyan Football.

[bobyhodob]

so am i right that betking has a bad record before  . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name  . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money  , the money can came from thier bad deeds   .  if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad  . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal  .

yes you are right indeed this gambling place has a bad history and I suggest you not to enter that gambling place, it could be that all the people's assets that have entered the gambling slot cannot withdraw assets and only get losses, there are still many other gambling places so try to use other gambling spots.

[bhadz]

so am i right that betking has a bad record before  . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name  . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money  , the money can came from thier bad deeds   .  if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad  . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal  .

You are right. You just go through the threads made by them. Or to make it easy for you, look at Dean's trust feedback[1].
[1] Trust Summary for BetKing.io
He did a refund and partnership with bitsler but I think there's still plentiful number of people that haven't took the refund nor issues resolved.

[plvbob0070]

so am i right that betking has a bad record before  . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name  . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money  , the money can came from thier bad deeds   .  if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad  . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal  .

I'm not really familiar about their issue but after reading what others have said it's clear that even if they will make a sponsorship to have a good image, it won't erase the negative image they had before for scamming people. If they are trying to get back the trust of the people by giving a good impression, it won't be easy for them since they have not cleared their name and reputation yet.

The management should also look or review it first before accepting sponsorship because if the money indeed came from stealing, the FKF can also get their name affected with betking's past issue.

[Shasha80]

Looking at the bad history of BetKing, it's likely they are trying to clear their image. By sponsoring Kenya football, but many victims
have been harmed by BetKing, so BetKing will always look bad in the cryptocurrency community. Besides, it is impossible for BetKing
to have as much as $ 11 million, there are other lies made by BetKing. And I will not wear BetKing sites to play gambling. And I don't
know if BetKing.com is the same as BetKing.io, it's safer to avoid both sites.

[Twinkledoe]

Looking at the bad history of BetKing, it's likely they are trying to clear their image. By sponsoring Kenya football, but many victims
have been harmed by BetKing, so BetKing will always look bad in the cryptocurrency community. Besides, it is impossible for BetKing
to have as much as $ 11 million, there are other lies made by BetKing. And I will not wear BetKing sites to play gambling. And I don't
know if BetKing.com is the same as BetKing.io, it's safer to avoid both sites.

Reading above posts again, it seems that betking.com is a separate entity from betking.io. Their existence is longer than betking.io. I sent an email to betking.com to check about their connections. Let's see what will be their reply.

[Genemind]

I think I'll consider this a good news if I don't know the reputation of BetKing in the forum, but no.. a scam site always have a dark reason behind the action. For those who don't know about the site, they can check the account in the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024.

Exactly! For those that don't know their history, their move is great! However, a lot of us here in the forum know the truth about their profile. So I am assuming it is only a publicity stunt, maybe to rectify their bad reputation. But they need to address first their old issues before spending a lot of money to some sports team.

I am part of those who don't know their history.
At first glance of the OP's news it really look great and I almost tried to say it is.
But, from all the replies of the members then I think it is not a great news but instead it was bad news.

If they can grow their advertisement up to this extent then more will be victims of the scams they did.
We don't want that to happen. We don't want new victims for their new scam attempts.
How could we help others to not step on the same floor which others had experienced already?
Maybe report them with proofs?

Since they already have scammed a lot of money, there might be a hidden agenda on their action. I hope Kenya is aware of the credibility of the company sponsoring them, if this is for publicity, it could be to clean their name or to victimize more people.

But if betking.com and betking.io have the same management, then they can scam so many people.

This is something that they need to clarify to avoid confusion and to avoid their reputation being tarnished by scam accusation.

[ralle14]

It looks like they're based on Nigeria and doesn't even accept cryptocurrencies so they're probably not related to the other Betking we all know that's now an affiliate site.

Here's more information that can be found on their about page

BetKing is a sports betting company in Lagos, offering online services nationwide and agency services in Nigeria. Among the offerings of the company’s services are sports betting, not restricted to football, hockey, cricket, tennis, basketball and more, customized state-of-the-art virtual games including the exclusive Kings' League and Colour-Colour.

BetKing also offers agency opportunities for individuals who will come to be called Kingmakers once they sign up to deliver offline betting services to customers.

BetKing is a product of SV Gaming Limited and the birth of the brand was initiated by an evolution in strategy and the objective to offer more value to customers. BetKing is currently licensed by the Lagos State Lotteries Board, Anambra State Gaming Company and holds a sports and gaming license issued by the Osun State Government. In addition, BetKing is licensed by the National Lotteries Board.

[Hippocrypto]

Reading above posts again, it seems that betking.com is a separate entity from betking.io. Their existence is longer than betking.io. I sent an email to betking.com to check about their connections. Let's see what will be their reply.

Good. We hope that betking.com can clarify if they are part of betking.io or not because, as we know that betking.io is made a problem for some members. I hope after you get a reply from them, you can also share here so we can know what their answer.

But if betking.com and betking.io have the same management, then they can scam so many people.

This is really a serious concern to many of their victim, and it needs a legal action which will put betking liable to face scam accusations. If they can prove themselves innocent of this matter, then there's no problem about it. First of all, we need to listen and be open minded with different thoughts that will come out, since this thing might be controversial to everybody.

[Becky666]

AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.

Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.

[Vaculin]

AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.

Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.

This forum is popular, sure, a lot of members know about their reputation, but I think that would not stop a project from still operating, I've seen some gambling sites here where their forum account is negged tag but they are still into operation. Based on the article, $11 milion is a huge money, so this site is really huge,  and can impact the gambling world, so I was just wondering, what aren't they are fixing their reputation, aren't they thinking of their future.

[leea-1334]

OK so I read all the posts and so the newbies reading this can understand what is going on can we ask OP to please update the thread title and OP to reflect all these points?

Betking.com and not Betking.io

We do NOT want new gamblers to accidentally go and deposit at a failed site right? Not that sponsorship should convince people to do anything;)

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.

Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.

Obviously, they are trying to clean up their image, however, if they are that serious, then the first thing to do is to solved their problems first in this community. But they didn't, no response from them whatsoever after so many years. And I agree that they should have look at the issue they got themselves involved.

And now the uproar, they just brought back the accusations and heat with their actions here.

[dothebeats]

Perhaps they turned out to have a change of heart after all? /s

BetKing has scammed a lot of people in the past and I highly doubt that they have that much to spend being sponsors. It's mainly a publicity stunt for the masses to win their trust over again and start yet another scamming spree like they did in the past. And maybe the Kenyan officials are into it as well, to mask the actual amount that they sponsor and to keep things going for a while. There's just enough evidence on BetKing being scammers that it's hard to really risk doing business with them even if they get a legitimate share of the pie in the Kenyan football league.

[target]

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

Betking.com, the one in the topic, doesn't support crypto. Betking.io is the one that does have negative reviews.

Might be Betking.io use other domain so that it can be dragged by the popularity of Betking.com? AFAIK, website name can be registered as same as long as they are using different domains?

Can someone clarify this or I'm totally wrong here?

I was also curious so I did some quick search.

My conclusion, I think they are the same, look at the ANN thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119013.0, you can see a crown, and their website, https://www.betking.com/sports/s, you can also see the same crown.

this https://betking.io/ is not a gambling site anymore, it's more like an advertisement platform.

This betking.com has their TM-mark on their name. Whereas, the questionable betking.io has nothing in it.

     
https://www.betking.com/             
                     


 https://betking.io/                                                                                           

betking.com is asking for details that are only asked by pure fiat-based casino. So no crypto here.



I think this site is different from the betking.io account, which are still resolving issues from their customers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54540211#msg54540211

Look guys. There is a difference between the two, maybe the BetKing.com is actaully not the same as BetKing.io who scammed many of you. 

I really think its virtually impossible for Betking.io the scam will have connection to the sports betting and if it canlt pay Loyce the $700 they've scammed from him, they definitely don't have the $11M too.  They could turn this into a good marketing though.