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July 26, 2020, 10:28:20 PM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
Why not? If they're fast enough they can cash out before anyone can get on their tracks and leave unscathed. It's a risk some people consider very worth taking. It all depends on who is executing the hack and how confortable he feels with the following steps of the hack
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July 26, 2020, 10:49:11 PM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
Hacking exchanges and accounts are not easy. Even they have knowledge in computer software or intercepting accounts, it may take time for them to steal some privacy such as email and passwords. In fact, even making phishing site is really difficult to do. That is why hacking is a one time big time event. Imagine, they took a month before they discovered the internal security of an exchange and they only want a one dollar of the customer. It is really useless and waste of time.
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July 26, 2020, 10:59:23 PM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
Well you could make your own set of 3 different mixing companies. Knowing you did a big hack. Wait six months mix to first company mix to second company mix to third company then sell
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ene1980
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July 26, 2020, 11:08:19 PM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat. It was a shady exchange and i doubt whether there was any real hackers behind the scene and the team behind that might have moved the coins and have went through mixers and expect that they can blame on a hack and never return the customers anything and with the halving and the rally expectation i expected many hacks like these.
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Zionatin
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July 26, 2020, 11:22:19 PM |
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Im unsure of the reason but I do know they don't care about footprints so much. They probably feel invincible. I can't see why they wouldn't be able to get away with taking it just like any other crook. If you rob a bank you have the same problem. You need to find a place to put the money. So like many have said they will use a mixer. If I were a hacker I would deposit the bitcoins all over the place and invest in projects and be paid in another coin the sell that for fresh bitcoin. Rinse repeat until its all done. I guess hackers could invest in ICO projects since there so many after hte mix their coins. I can't imagine how they will be traced then.
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July 26, 2020, 11:22:48 PM |
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We can't also blame mixers about this because, in the first place, they are not asking anyone where is their money coming from before they allow it unless it becomes suspicious. Though they leave such footprints but this will be not enough to hunt them down, are still anonymous at all. These hacking issues wouldn't have an end, they are targetting those huge exchanges and sadly it comes to a point that they become successful. To think that these scammers are really smart because no matter how exchanges put strong keys they can actually crack on it because it is supposedly not.
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Sadlife
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July 26, 2020, 11:50:07 PM |
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There are ways to bypass this types of security even though Bitcoin is pseudonymous by using fake informations and mixers. For instance you could withdraw all the money through converting it to a fiat currency then passing it into a dummy account in the bank so there are no traces.
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July 26, 2020, 11:59:35 PM |
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There are ways to bypass this types of security even though Bitcoin is pseudonymous by using fake informations and mixers. For instance you could withdraw all the money through converting it to a fiat currency then passing it into a dummy account in the bank so there are no traces.
They can find ways to bypass and withdraw the funds in my opinion. Hackers will find other solutions on how they can break the security. Remember, they are stealing huge amount of bitcoin. This is they are aiming to have bitcoins in an instant ways.
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July 27, 2020, 01:05:07 AM |
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There are ways to bypass this types of security even though Bitcoin is pseudonymous by using fake informations and mixers. For instance you could withdraw all the money through converting it to a fiat currency then passing it into a dummy account in the bank so there are no traces.
They can find ways to bypass and withdraw the funds in my opinion. Hackers will find other solutions on how they can break the security. Remember, they are stealing huge amount of bitcoin. This is they are aiming to have bitcoins in an instant ways. Bitcoin is very profitable or can make money and that is the reason they can have it in any way and they will continue to try to be able to have it, hackers will continue to exist even though the risk is large if tracked or captured and punished but that is not their reason because they think how to get it by forced or instant. and there are many cases of bitcoin hacked in various ways with different cases and will continue to exist, must remain vigilant about how to keep bitcoin well and safe from hackers in any way. calling it profitable will only depend on how you earn it . if your job is hacking and targeting big corporations and people , you can say it is verry profitable but other than that will cause you struggle . they can continue to exist because if they caught , their bosses can pay the police to withdraw them in jail and do their illegal hacks again and also they arent only compose of one group but there are many hackers around the world .
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July 27, 2020, 01:10:10 AM |
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There are ways to bypass this types of security even though Bitcoin is pseudonymous by using fake informations and mixers. For instance you could withdraw all the money through converting it to a fiat currency then passing it into a dummy account in the bank so there are no traces.
Using mixers then send it to dummy accounts that allowed them to withdraw the money. Hackers are hackers, they've always find ways to make things to happened according to the plan. They can find ways to bypass and withdraw the funds in my opinion. Hackers will find other solutions on how they can break the security. Remember, they are stealing huge amount of bitcoin. This is they are aiming to have bitcoins in an instant ways.
They are breaking securities and for sure they are well prepared in order to complete their intentions. Easy money once they've completely process everything, hackers are smart and coexist with everyone. They've planned ahead to compensate from this illegal activities.
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Eugenar
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July 27, 2020, 01:24:53 AM |
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Hackers are criminals, they will target those with huge money, 336 Bitcoin is huge, all criminals have the feeling that they may be caught by the authorities just like other criminals in real-world but they still keep on doing it because they are so greedy on money, they put their lives at risk by stealing money, they also have many ways to make their action clean just like the other says.
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meanwords
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July 27, 2020, 02:06:08 AM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
maybe this is the point where most people hate banks (without much sense in my opinion) if they are convinced that the cryptocurrency system is also very broken in this part, hackers know that stealing cryptocurrencies is something much more advantageous than stealing fiat in the bank where you have security cameras and always have a witness and even if it takes many years, eventually the thief will be found, while in the case of stealing any exchange there is little and no chance of being found. That is why I believe that anyone who has money on exchanges (just like me) should not sleep soundly ... this is the great disadvantage of the decentralized world of cryptocurrencies. But of course with KYC on all exchanges it might be possible to have a more secure system capable of finding hackers, but there are mixers that, although the intent of the mixers' creators are good (I think) help the hackers in some way and escape with stolen bitcoins This happened because they are using centralized exchanges, it's not the disadvantage of "the decentralized world of cryptocurrencies". There's a lot of ways to secure your coins while still avoiding using this kind of services. Use decentralized exchanges, local exchanges, or exchanges with another person. Don't trust centralized exchanges as it is susceptible to hacking and you don't really own your cryptocurrency that way. Stealing the cryptocurrency itself is next to impossible.
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July 27, 2020, 06:05:30 AM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
The network can be faked and you can change locations, some block explorer only includes ip when transactions. There are many ways you can do to avoid detection, it could be by dividing into several addresses. If you know someone deepweb you can trade with them. This will not be difficult if you understand network security techniques.
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July 27, 2020, 06:53:39 AM |
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Many hacker always use bitcoin and altcoin as their payment way because with cryptocurrency looks difficult to know who is the address owner, they can make many transaction kind without worry how the policemen know they are, thousand hacker cases always use bitcoin as their payment and give bad reputation label for bitcoin and altcoin at the future.
Hackers do not exacerbate the reputation of bitcoin in any way, they just keep using it because bitcoin fully fits their expectations regarding what money should trully be. If bitcoin weren't money that has hardness, liquidity, decentralized nature, it wouldn't be demanded by hackers, bitcoin wouldn't be demanded by honest people not involved in criminal activities either. Bad reputation of bitcoin is a myth, which has been promoted for years by media, governments and other parties interested in bitcoin's demise. After recent Twitter hack had happened, everyone was publishing articles with the "Bitcoin scam" in titles trying to convince people that Bitcoin is a fraudulent tool to fool users of Twitter. As we have learned, it was not bad advertisement for bitcoin, now its price goes up quickly.
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Inkdatar
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July 27, 2020, 10:25:19 AM |
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Hackers are criminals, they will target those with huge money, 336 Bitcoin is huge, all criminals have the feeling that they may be caught by the authorities just like other criminals in real-world but they still keep on doing it because they are so greedy on money, they put their lives at risk by stealing money, they also have many ways to make their action clean just like the other says.
Well said this is a huge amount of BTC we're talking about 336b once a hacker always a hacker. Everything is well planned and their mission is on how they can take out the money that they steal. I bet these people are experts of this doing so the obvious reason because they can have it without complication
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July 27, 2020, 10:45:49 AM Last edit: July 27, 2020, 12:53:21 PM by olamidey |
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You seem one sided with your analysis, you obviously dont how extreme people go with crime. Do you know that people rob stores were they are obvious CCTV cameras? So these things happen out of impulse, and greed.
Greed push a harker to steal Bitcoin, and if he succed , the same greed will push him to take it all. Imagine wasting time and resources to hack only to cart away with just a few token.
I am not sure if a harker identity is exposed if he steals huge token, we all know Bitcoin is decentralized and anonymous, so the hackers identity is completely safe.
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radjie
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July 28, 2020, 11:36:36 AM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
a hacker of course has an efficient way to get rid of traces so that his Bitcoin can be converted into fiat, maybe one of the things he can do is to divide the bitcoin he gets by confirming it into several altcoins, the rest may be stored for a long time in some different wallet
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July 28, 2020, 12:10:11 PM |
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With the advancement of technology, new methods of hackers are coming out. Hackers are constantly changing their names and addresses and trying to delete their footprints. However, many things are possible if the law enforcement wants. I will not say only we are wrong, but it is possible to prevent if the government wants.
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July 29, 2020, 02:00:59 PM |
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I was reading about Cashaa, that was hacked and 336BTC were stolen. But the hacker can't move them right? He will leave footprints. So why should hackers steal them since they can be found? For example if they want to convert them to fiat.
The only way I think you could get by from this felony is to keep them on very long term. So long that it may be forgotten. But still, it may.
I don't think they would ever be able to hold it for long that it would just be simply forgotten. Usually these hacks affect a large number of people, and many of these will check regularly to see if the funds have been moved. Even if the number of people checking does dwindle over time, there will still be the odd guy that checks every year or so, just in case (someone just like me). I was scammed for 14 BTC back in 2016 and the guy still hasn't moved the coins. I still check the address on etherscan every few months, just in case. Also, it's not that hard to cash out illegally obtained Bitcoin's, there's a few wallets like Wasabi and Samourai that feature built-in fungibility and mixing tools. Though these might be breakable if somebody has enough data about the participants involved in a mixing session.
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July 29, 2020, 08:49:11 PM |
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Hackers do have the guts to steal a huge amount of bitcoins, even their addresses are publicly broadcasted and permanently stored in the bitcoin network because they have their ways for them to be difficult to trace. Rumors says they used a bitcoin mixer to mix their coins with different users to preserve or hide their identities. It is why we don't have a chance to fight back or retrieve our funds once we get hacked by hackers.
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