Space Race Wagers?

[DireWolfM14]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

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[tyKiwanuka]

Neither do I follow mars missions in general (I maybe should) nor the betting markets for it. But I know that some austrian bookie is offering Mars-bets since years already. They had some fun bets like "What will happen first ? England winning the FIFA World Cup or humans landing on Mars." These bets are gone now as it seems, but there are different ones now and it looks like they don't trust in any of your mentioned missions being successful:


Source: https://www.bet-at-home.com/en/sport

Couldn't find any markets anywhere else, but I am not able to access some US bookies, like Bovada, who should have markets as well. Maybe you can check and post here then.

[alani123]

With bets like this one, it would be extremely long term to decide who would win. I'm surprised there even are markets open on that one.
A book maker has to be extremely confident they can remain pen for such a long term without interruption to carry over a bet that might last a decade. I'd surely have trust issues with any book market putting my money into such bet. Let alone the fact that missions to mars (manned) might never happen in our generation (in spite of optimistic claims).

[carlfebz2]

With bets like this one, it would be extremely long term to decide who would win. I'm surprised there even are markets open on that one.
A book maker has to be extremely confident they can remain pen for such a long term without interruption to carry over a bet that might last a decade. I'd surely have trust issues with any book market putting my money into such bet. Let alone the fact that missions to mars (manned) might never happen in our generation (in spite of optimistic claims).

I didnt actually expect for this one yet we know that these events would really have that no sure on when it would happen or shall we say indefinite time. Can someone would really have the guts to wait up for that long?

If odds wont just talk about 1.5x or 2x or maximum of 10 then i might consider but seeing those low numbers then i wont have the interest on making up bets.

You wont just even remember when the time comes that you do made up some bets. 

[n0ne]

Myself never thought it would be taken into account for gambling. People always look for instant results, here it is a long wait. The launch will happen before the year of 2025 and after the year 2025. If launch gets over by the falling year then people won't find it a long wait, because it is like the election gambling which we all have been waiting to know the true result.

[michellee]

I never imagined that such a bet would exist, but that is interesting to know the result a few years later, and I wonder who will be the winner. I think that can make people curious, but I don't think that they can wait for such a long time. But maybe they will only use small money to bet because the waiting time will be too long for them.

[Darker45]

This topic put a smile on my face.

Odds makers must not only be familiar with traditional sports, eSports, politics, beauty pageants, movies, and so on and so forth but also on space programs around the world to be able to produce nice starting odds. It's funny but I am now beginning to think that I want to be an odds maker.

I never imagined that such a bet would exist...

Yeah, it now seems to me that betting can be done on virtually everything under and beyond the sun.   

[ralle14]

If odds wont just talk about 1.5x or 2x or maximum of 10 then i might consider but seeing those low numbers then i wont have the interest on making up bets.

The odds aren't that high because there's only a few selections if there would be more countries/companies competing it could go up to a hundred or more.


The same markets can be found on fairlay there's only four to choose from maybe it'll get updated in the near future if they get enough recognition.

[DireWolfM14]

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Apperantly the bookies are only interested in the human race to Mars, not the robotic ones.  I browsed around bovada's site, but only found markets for political events and election results.  

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Fairlay's site is interesting, it looks more like an exchange than a casino.  There are markets for the first US company to take humans to Mars, but nothing about the Chinese or UAE missions.  However, they do provide the option to make your own market, that's pretty cool.  

[MFahad]

Neither do I follow mars missions in general (I maybe should) nor the betting markets for it. But I know that some austrian bookie is offering Mars-bets since years already. They had some fun bets like "What will happen first ? England winning the FIFA World Cup or humans landing on Mars." These bets are gone now as it seems, but there are different ones now and it looks like they don't trust in any of your mentioned missions being successful:


Source: https://www.bet-at-home.com/en/sport

Couldn't find any markets anywhere else, but I am not able to access some US bookies, like Bovada, who should have markets as well. Maybe you can check and post here then.

This is the first time i have seen a bet on such an event. 
Also note that if you place a bet on this that when will first human reach on the Mars before or after 2025, the result will come after 2025. So your money will be stuck for 5 years in this bet 

[DoublerHunter]

^ I love betting on games and sports but for this one, nah. The waiting time for the result is too long but I find it interesting to know who will win in this space race because for me in a matter of days or months even years there will be a lot of possible things that may happen along the way. We are not even sure if by 2025 they will succeed in getting to Mars and if not then another project of these countries we need to wait again just to get the result. I would rather bet on FIFA than this space race where we are not even sure when we will know the result. I am not against others who do long term betting but for me, I find it more exciting if I only wait a shorter time for the outcome of my bets.

[Oilacris]

^ I love betting on games and sports but for this one, nah. The waiting time for the result is too long but I find it interesting to know who will win in this space race because for me in a matter of days or months even years there will be a lot of possible things that may happen along the way. We are not even sure if by 2025 they will succeed in getting to Mars and if not then another project of these countries we need to wait again just to get the result. I would rather bet on FIFA than this space race where we are not even sure when we will know the result. I am not against others who do long term betting but for me, I find it more exciting if I only wait a shorter time for the outcome of my bets.

Me too and im not really that patient enough to wait up bets for something like that lone.This is also my first time to see on betting on a race on going to mars or some sort.Its really rare to have these events
but i dont think that there would be so much interest on this one.This might really took up for several years yet we know that development on such space thingy wont really be that simple and very time consuming.

To those people who do talk about the odds then it will really matter on recognition.If lots would be interested then expect for those to increase but for now then it isnt surprising to see those numbers.

[tyKiwanuka]

Apperantly the bookies are only interested in the human race to Mars, not the robotic ones.

Hmm, call me ignorant, but there were already robots on Mars who collected some data etc., no ?

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I found another bookie offereing odds for human Mars Mission:


Source: https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/current-events/

If I would have to bet, I would take the field for @101. There will possibly be some joint venture from different countries and that "company" will have some other name.

The waiting time for the result is too long (...)

The bookie from which I posted the first screenshot has a promotion running, the "Porsche 911 Betcup". All you have to do is to place a bet every day and be the last user standing to do so. If you are, you will win a Porsche 911 worth 100k Euro. Sounds good, huh ? The promo started 12 years ago and is still running There are until now 26 users who placed a bet every day for over 12 years and this promo doesn't look to be over soon:


Source: https://www.bet-at-home.com/en/promotion/betcup

By the time the winner is determined, the Porsche will already be an oldtimer.

/offtopic

[bitbollo]

I give my 2 cents:
When there isn't a specific market already created (likewise speaking about tennis... ATP RANKING) it could be more useful bet the "Other" option (I mean not a specific choice/generic ones) since there is always a strong possibility that some underdog can conquer and made the final bets winning.

Moreover bookmakers try to "push" interest of players depicting an option more probably than other ones.
There is a double advantage, first they will pay very low odds in case of winnings. and most of players will be focused to bet the favorite one despite this is not a "well known" market ...

[michellee]

I never imagined that such a bet would exist...

Yeah, it now seems to me that betting can be done on virtually everything under and beyond the sun.   

With the internet, our life becomes simple, and we don't have to go to want someplace to collect the data. We can use the connection to search for it.

If the bet is not too high, I think people will place a bet, and they will place a lot of tickets while the result does not come too soon. Maybe people will forget if they place that bet.

[imstillthebest]

I never imagined that such a bet would exist...

Yeah, it now seems to me that betting can be done on virtually everything under and beyond the sun.  

With the internet, our life becomes simple, and we don't have to go to want someplace to collect the data. We can use the connection to search for it.

If the bet is not too high, I think people will place a bet, and they will place a lot of tickets while the result does not come too soon. Maybe people will forget if they place that bet.

its not about being virtual or not but its the fact that gambling has gone different now . many possibilities that opened up on gambling for many decades and years  . before we only know gambling exist on cards , dominos , using  physical currencies .  now everything people think off relates to gambling .  this space betting is insane because this takes along time to wait for whos gonna be the winner or loosers .  i wouldnt bet on it but maybe person that have alot of money and patience will find it interesting

[target]

Seem a fun bet but it would take a long time to see who's winning. It would be worth betting if you put huge amount but a time-wasting too since it's like making your BTC sleep for a period of time. Its a long term and many things can happen in between. Very unlucky for those who waited and lose the bet.

It would make sense for a person who is in the science community to bet but still fun for a bitcoiner.

[pikkie]

Seem a fun bet but it would take a long time to see who's winning. It would be worth betting if you put huge amount but a time-wasting too since it's like making your BTC sleep for a period of time. Its a long term and many things can happen in between. Very unlucky for those who waited and lose the bet.

It would make sense for a person who is in the science community to bet but still fun for a bitcoiner.

I think there are still those who can get a lot of results might also be able to see from the pop ups that often appear in some gambling places that can get big profits, so keep trying and never to get profits from a wager that can get a lot of results.

[yazher]

The odds seem high with this one since they are extremely careful regarding the systems and the components of these projects. But we cannot deny the fact when it comes to system errors those things sometimes fell from the sky just a few seconds after its departure. Not to mention we had the same scenario last time when the Iranian has failed to launch their satellite to reach orbit. we are talking about different countries here but the same scenario could also happen at all.



This photo by a satellite operated by DigitalGlobe, a subsidiary of Maxar Technologies, shows Iran's Imam Khomeini Space Center on Feb. 5, 2019, shortly before a Safir rocket launch that was later determined to be a failure.
(Image: © Satellite image Copyright 2019 DigitalGlobe, a Maxar company)

Source: https://www.space.com/iran-satellite-launch-failure-zafar-1.html

[Swordsoffreedom]

^ I love betting on games and sports but for this one, nah. The waiting time for the result is too long but I find it interesting to know who will win in this space race because for me in a matter of days or months even years there will be a lot of possible things that may happen along the way. We are not even sure if by 2025 they will succeed in getting to Mars and if not then another project of these countries we need to wait again just to get the result. I would rather bet on FIFA than this space race where we are not even sure when we will know the result. I am not against others who do long term betting but for me, I find it more exciting if I only wait a shorter time for the outcome of my bets.

I agree with you, I’m basically a sports gambler. but sometimes I bet on some adventurous things. but it must be fun and short- lived, I don’t bet on anything where I have to wait for a few years. Maybe after a few years the Chinese spaceship will reach the Mars, is there any guarantee that I will survive until then? I am not interested in betting on these types of idiotic acts.

[DireWolfM14]

Apperantly the bookies are only interested in the human race to Mars, not the robotic ones.

Hmm, call me ignorant, but there were already robots on Mars who collected some data etc., no ?

Yes, of course.  But for the most part extra-planetary exploration has been dominated by the US and EU.  Not to say they haven't experienced failures.  Fewer than successes, thankfully.  Which is why I'm curious about the odds for newbies in the game.

And right now we have two (soon to be three) robots racing to Mars!  Where's the love for the robots?

The odds seem high with this one since they are extremely careful regarding the systems and the components of these projects.

I tend to agree.  Both missions seem to be well on their way up to now, one of the difficult phases is over.  The more difficult phase will be 7 months from now, this part should be easy sailing.  I think at this point, the technology for SBRs is well understood by all around the world.  The failures of the other missions is mostly public knowledge, and those risks can be mitigated.

[michellee]

With the internet, our life becomes simple, and we don't have to go to want someplace to collect the data. We can use the connection to search for it.

If the bet is not too high, I think people will place a bet, and they will place a lot of tickets while the result does not come too soon. Maybe people will forget if they place that bet.

its not about being virtual or not but its the fact that gambling has gone different now . many possibilities that opened up on gambling for many decades and years  . before we only know gambling exist on cards , dominos , using  physical currencies .  now everything people think off relates to gambling .  this space betting is insane because this takes along time to wait for whos gonna be the winner or loosers .  i wouldnt bet on it but maybe person that have alot of money and patience will find it interesting

The gambling industry now has evolved and not just happen in real life, but also happens on the internet, and that attracts many people to try online gambling. I think some people will find that bet is interesting for them because that is the first time they know about that bet. They will know that this bet will need the patience to wait for the result because the possibilities to see the result will be longer than they can think. They can hope that the casino can run for a long time until the bets can close in the future.

[Shasha80]

I am among those who like to follow the news about program space to Mars, but that does not mean it is interesting to bet.
Although finally there are gambling sites who is willing to open this bet, surely the results of determining the victory will
be long. And can be a long-term betting, since I'm not typical people who have high patience. I don't think mission to Mars is
interesting for gambling.

[Insanerman]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

The only question here is that would there be people whom will gamble and bet on such a super long term game? It's like betting on what country would be sink first and what would stood longer. What if the other had their upgrade or a follow-up service, wouldn't that be unfair? And what exactly would we bet in here? There are many aspects in which could also has many changes from time to time. And would this even be profitable nor would there be really a market at all? I don't think so.

[Fundamentals Of]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

The only question here is that would there be people whom will gamble and bet on such a super long term game? It's like betting on what country would be sink first and what would stood longer. What if the other had their upgrade or a follow-up service, wouldn't that be unfair? And what exactly would we bet in here? There are many aspects in which could also has many changes from time to time. And would this even be profitable nor would there be really a market at all? I don't think so.

If the odds are really nice why don't people bet on it?

Is this going to be a super long term game? People bet on sports matches which is going to take place even more than 5 months later. If the betting is on which between country A and B is going to send a mission to space or moon or Mars first, then I assume that the countries involved have already existing space programs that would probably launch a ship several months later.

This is not going to be a bet on whether Burundi will be able to launch a Mars mission earlier than South Sudan. Odds makers and betting sites won't offer the odds if the event is going to happen in the next 100 years.

[shoreno]

I am among those who like to follow the news about program space to Mars, but that does not mean it is interesting to bet.
Although finally there are gambling sites who is willing to open this bet, surely the results of determining the victory will
be long. And can be a long-term betting, since I'm not typical people who have high patience. I don't think mission to Mars is
interesting for gambling.

you have your interest on heavenly bodies and its different from being an avid fan of betting . the results are long but i think they arent stupid enough to start a bet too early but they can open the bet when the results are about to show up   . like few days or few weeks from now  because i also saw longer events that a betting site supports  . mission to mars cant be interisting to bet but its an interisting topic to talk about  . i heard this on the news and its the  planet where scientist are studying if possible to live on here  ?

[traderethereum]

Attractive for mission gambling on Mars it will take a long time to grow the UAE wanted to have a successful mission to Mars but it was not possible mars must first be made habitable by humans.

A player must have a higher degree and concentration in the RTS genre for Homeward 2 to build its adversity. The commander-in-chief will not only have to manage the fleet quickly in the event of a collision but also plan for the acquisition and expenditure of resources needed to build new ships and conduct core research.

It will take a long time to see when humans can landing on Mars. I don't think that many people will place a bet on that, but if people have a big curiosity, they will try to place the bet, especially if the ticket is not too expensive.
In a short time, if humans want to live on Mars, we need to develop something that can help us survive, and that is not easy to do because that will need a lot of money.
After all, it is a new idea to have this bet because that can attract people to know more about the bet.

[bbc.reporter]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

America will win the space race, I reckon. The American government have been in space for 20 years and have begun to be bored of it if not for Elon Musk. A space race versus China might awake NASA's enthusiasm especially in the middle of this new cold war between the 2 countries hehehe.

I also speculate a war for the moon territories. The country that controls the moon might control sustainable space travel to Mars.

[fiulpro]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

Considering how NASA is training people to colonize MARS at the same time how people are trying to buy the land on Mars , at the same time India also launched the Mars rover in the past and took care of the cost Efficiently , I do think with all this *Settle on Mars* thing , most countries will try and get to Mars as soon as they can .

I do think China is gonna do that 100% , maybe not this year but years ahead .

Due to coronavirus their intentions might slow down but at the same time I think even the small countries will try and contribute, maybe try and do it together.

- But considering waging on the Space Stuff might as well mean waging on the country itself , how sure you are about the country's system ?
Do you believe they might actually do it ?

*I myself this The US have an advantage over this ofcourse*
NASA is no joke.

I won't myself pick China 🙄

[Insanerman]

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If the odds are really nice why don't people bet on it?

Is this going to be a super long term game? People bet on sports matches which is going to take place even more than 5 months later. If the betting is on which between country A and B is going to send a mission to space or moon or Mars first, then I assume that the countries involved have already existing space programs that would probably launch a ship several months later.

This is not going to be a bet on whether Burundi will be able to launch a Mars mission earlier than South Sudan. Odds makers and betting sites won't offer the odds if the event is going to happen in the next 100 years.

Then what do you think would be the odds on such betting idea? As I've said, there are numerous possibilities and changes that could happen on years and I think it's too impossible that someone would really wait longer than 6 months (in which I think the minimum months that the space mission would occur or the bets would occur). And doesn't what game are we really playing here? Whom would be successful first? Whom would make progress first or who would fail? Everything is open-ended in such situations.

[Fundamentals Of]

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If the odds are really nice why don't people bet on it?

Is this going to be a super long term game? People bet on sports matches which is going to take place even more than 5 months later. If the betting is on which between country A and B is going to send a mission to space or moon or Mars first, then I assume that the countries involved have already existing space programs that would probably launch a ship several months later.

This is not going to be a bet on whether Burundi will be able to launch a Mars mission earlier than South Sudan. Odds makers and betting sites won't offer the odds if the event is going to happen in the next 100 years.

Then what do you think would be the odds on such betting idea? As I've said, there are numerous possibilities and changes that could happen on years and I think it's too impossible that someone would really wait longer than 6 months (in which I think the minimum months that the space mission would occur or the bets would occur). And doesn't what game are we really playing here? Whom would be successful first? Whom would make progress first or who would fail? Everything is open-ended in such situations.

I have no idea as to the possible odds. It has to depend on the specifics involved. But I am sure that odds makers won't release the odds for betting if there is no likely development in the next several months or a year or so. In the same way that they don't release odds yet to sports matches which have just been agreed upon and are still not certain if they push through or not.

No, it is not impossible for gamblers to bet on it even if it takes longer than 6 months. Gamblers bet on SpaceX as the most likely winner in terms of sending the first humans to Mars. SpaceX of Elon Musk is the heavy favorite over Blue Origin of Jeff Bezos or even NASA. But all this could mean they will get their money after at least a year.

[Genemind]

It's amusing that OP came up with this idea and I think it would be difficult to create odds on this since there are a lot of things you need to consider to come up with the odds. I guess people never run out of ideas on what to bet on and it's really fun to see different ideas. Technology is evolving fast and a lot of things can happen over a short period of time that could affect the odds since it is a long-term bet.

[sabotag3x]

This is the first time i have seen a bet on such an event. 
Also note that if you place a bet on this that when will first human reach on the Mars before or after 2025, the result will come after 2025. So your money will be stuck for 5 years in this bet 

And your money will probably lose a lot of value in those 5 years if you bet using fiat

In addition, the casino may disappear in 5 years, it could be safer to place a long term bet like this using smart contracts..



Compared to the first space race, we are much more conservative.. Nowadays we prefer to save lives rather than rushing.. most fatalities ocurred in the 60s.. I doubt that they will send people to mars before 2025..

[Mauser]

It's amusing that OP came up with this idea and I think it would be difficult to create odds on this since there are a lot of things you need to consider to come up with the odds. I guess people never run out of ideas on what to bet on and it's really fun to see different ideas. Technology is evolving fast and a lot of things can happen over a short period of time that could affect the odds since it is a long-term bet.

Since no one knows the odds for the success of a Mars mission it would be on all the people betting to find some payouts. The only problem I see is that news about the Chinese space program are very scare and definitely controlled by the communist party. For Nasa or  SpaceX the news are much easier available and more independent. Betting should only be done on western space programs in my opinion.

I really like the idea and would like to bet myself on Mars mission. Only drawback would be that you would have to wait a very long time for your payout. If its a human on Mars in 25 years the payout needs to be adjusted for inflation.

[ethereumhunter]

This is the first time i have seen a bet on such an event. 
Also note that if you place a bet on this that when will first human reach on the Mars before or after 2025, the result will come after 2025. So your money will be stuck for 5 years in this bet 

And your money will probably lose a lot of value in those 5 years if you bet using fiat

In addition, the casino may disappear in 5 years, it could be safer to place a long term bet like this using smart contracts..
Compared to the first space race, we are much more conservative.. Nowadays we prefer to save lives rather than rushing.. most fatalities ocurred in the 60s.. I doubt that they will send people to mars before 2025..

That is what happens if the site is run away and we don't know, or we forget about the bet. 5 years will be a long time to wait, and no one will know about the result, so I think we can select another betting type to gamble so that we can know the result as soon as possible. Saving lives in this pandemic will be important because we need to continue for living, so we need to survive.

[DarkDays]

I'd rather place a bet on who'd be first to commercialize space flight.

There seems to be a few players in this race, like Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and Elon Musk's SpaceX. Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic is another well-established player.

I want to see which of these will be the first to open a space hotel or being mining asteroids too.

My money is on SpaceX for now, but Blue Origin is probably a sleeping beast.

[samcrypto]

Those countries see a great potential in Mars and those who will successfully land in Mars and stay there for quiet sometime will gain the advantage to other countries. I'm not shock how the China works with this one because we all know, they have the power and money to do that and they want to have access on everything, just like how they are working on South China Sea. UAE space shuttle are also doing great, MARS is big and its worth it for sure for them to spend that much. Since 90's they are exploring MARS and I bet in the next decade, a commercial flight will begin to MARS.

[bitcoinisbest]

I never saw any such odd for any such things and even do not follow it. Never thought about it that people might even be looking into this as which one would be able to reach first and gamble on this as well. But yeah this is something interesting space and would now atleast investigate it and read something more about the space race and who all have launched and who all would be launching it.

[goaldigger]

I never saw any such odd for any such things and even do not follow it. Never thought about it that people might even be looking into this as which one would be able to reach first and gamble on this as well. But yeah this is something interesting space and would now atleast investigate it and read something more about the space race and who all have launched and who all would be launching it.

There’s no wagers because people don’t have much interest about this thing because of a classified mission. Many attempted to reach MARS and some of them succeed as far as history says. I’m also wondering the real reason behind this thing or The Earth is really falling and only those who have the money can survive and relocate to MARS? Well, this is all speculation not unless those countries will state the main reason behind this one then I’ll place my bet.

[iTradeChips]

I am surprised that there are these kinds of gambling that gambles to the unknown and uncertainties of man's achievements. China has been very active in it's space program and other developed countries has been keen to join in the space race as well, like India and U.A.E. We will be seeing more from the developed nations in the next fifty years and I am pretty sure we will send men to Mars within the century.

[iv4n]

I am surprised that there are these kinds of gambling that gambles to the unknown and uncertainties of man's achievements. China has been very active in it's space program and other developed countries has been keen to join in the space race as well, like India and U.A.E. We will be seeing more from the developed nations in the next fifty years and I am pretty sure we will send men to Mars within the century.

I'm not surprised, people bet on everything and anything literally! Of course, we don't see all that, we see just the legal side of that!
Interesting odds I must say, I don't bet on these things, but I like to take a peek and to see odds and what people like to bet on. If I need to place a bet it would be probably be on Chinese, they are going crazy on many fields in past decades and I wouldn't be surprised if they go up there first.

I'd rather place a bet on who'd be first to commercialize space flight.

This is interesting too!

Space race is something that draws attention! Except whom will be the first, I think it will be interesting to bet on "WHEN", in next 5 or 10 years, or we will have to wait longer to see someone landing on Mars, or commercialized space flight?

[andycarrol]

I am surprised that there are these kinds of gambling that gambles to the unknown and uncertainties of man's achievements. China has been very active in it's space program and other developed countries has been keen to join in the space race as well, like India and U.A.E. We will be seeing more from the developed nations in the next fifty years and I am pretty sure we will send men to Mars within the century.

I think to create a colony on Mars will take a very long time and of course it still needs a lot of observations about this Mars, because so far we don't know for sure how the conditions of Mars are suitable for life on earth or not, I see how far they are the astronauts are still observing it not too far away, and the most important thing is there must be a spring to survive for humanity.

[MCobian]

Nowadays people make all things at betting, including mission to mars. What China and the UAE might do, for me that
kind of thing is too speculative. But go ahead if some people like it. But interesting too Gambling is not currently limited
to sports or casino games right now, but many things can be used as betting.

[Beparanf]

I am surprised that there are these kinds of gambling that gambles to the unknown and uncertainties of man's achievements. China has been very active in it's space program and other developed countries has been keen to join in the space race as well, like India and U.A.E. We will be seeing more from the developed nations in the next fifty years and I am pretty sure we will send men to Mars within the century.

The betting part will depend on every countries dedication to push through this idea, it will be a long term plan and study making since they are really seeing the idea of living or using Mars, who ever do it again first will depend on each countries advanced technology, team and their government support. If only I knew someone from the team or will the propose time line is nearly feasible I will surely bet in these race.

[Timelord2067]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

NASA just launched yet another probe on its way to Mars overnight, so it's now a three horse race.  What would be interesting is if one or more of these rovers were set to land, survey then set out to rendezvous with each-other.

[spike420211]

This topic amuses me very much.
The whole space race of the USA and China reminds me of the race of the USA against the USSR.

There is too much politics involved in such things.
It turns out that the results of the rates will be based on the official statements of the countries, but these statements themselves may be far from the truth.

[Saint-loup]

I am among those who like to follow the news about program space to Mars, but that does not mean it is interesting to bet.
Although finally there are gambling sites who is willing to open this bet, surely the results of determining the victory will
be long. And can be a long-term betting, since I'm not typical people who have high patience. I don't think mission to Mars is
interesting for gambling.

Yes you're right.
On Fairlay the closing date is in 30 months for this bet.
https://fairlay.com/market/organization-to-put-human-being-on-mars-first-26/

[TrevorS]

I think the US is now number 1 in the space race. In any case, they have Elon Musk with his brilliant ideas.
In general, the idea of colonizing Mars seems pretty silly to me. Some countries cannot divide the land under their feet, some suffer from hunger and disease, the option of World War III is not excluded. And a huge amount of resources is spent on the development of dead space.

[iTradeChips]

I am surprised that there are these kinds of gambling that gambles to the unknown and uncertainties of man's achievements. China has been very active in it's space program and other developed countries has been keen to join in the space race as well, like India and U.A.E. We will be seeing more from the developed nations in the next fifty years and I am pretty sure we will send men to Mars within the century.

The betting part will depend on every countries dedication to push through this idea, it will be a long term plan and study making since they are really seeing the idea of living or using Mars, who ever do it again first will depend on each countries advanced technology, team and their government support. If only I knew someone from the team or will the propose time line is nearly feasible I will surely bet in these race.

Now I actually wondered if there was a bet if Elon Musk will succeed in making self-returning rocket propellers. The self-returning rocket propellers were a stuff of science fiction that came into reality and no one ever thought that it is possible. But since Elon Musk was able to pull it off then maybe anything is possible with the right minds and resources. If there was a bet that happened on this question then I'll be dammed. That is one hell of a bet and whoever won then must be so lucky.

[Saint-loup]

I think the US is now number 1 in the space race. In any case, they have Elon Musk with his brilliant ideas.
In general, the idea of colonizing Mars seems pretty silly to me. Some countries cannot divide the land under their feet, some suffer from hunger and disease, the option of World War III is not excluded. And a huge amount of resources is spent on the development of dead space.

I disagree with this common argument. The conquest of space gives a goal to humanity and brings us all together. Furthermore it has been shown to disrupt technology.

[Timelord2067]

What ever happened to that proposed reality TV program that was promising to send a crew to Mars (one way) with the landing / viewing as pay per view?

[TrevorS]

I think the US is now number 1 in the space race. In any case, they have Elon Musk with his brilliant ideas.
In general, the idea of colonizing Mars seems pretty silly to me. Some countries cannot divide the land under their feet, some suffer from hunger and disease, the option of World War III is not excluded. And a huge amount of resources is spent on the development of dead space.

I disagree with this common argument. The conquest of space gives a goal to humanity and brings us all together. Furthermore it has been shown to disrupt technology.

What purpose does this give? Fly off the planet?
We cannot get along on one planet full of resources, we are waging constant wars and strife. Wars are still going on, people are still starving. We cannot know what will happen tomorrow.
What if some Iran or North Korea will unleash a nuclear war, what good will Mars be for us? Where will you fly from a radioactive piece of earth?
Why should we set distant goals outside our planet when we can try to solve problems here and live in peace and prosperity. I cannot understand this.

[iTradeChips]

I think the US is now number 1 in the space race. In any case, they have Elon Musk with his brilliant ideas.
In general, the idea of colonizing Mars seems pretty silly to me. Some countries cannot divide the land under their feet, some suffer from hunger and disease, the option of World War III is not excluded. And a huge amount of resources is spent on the development of dead space.

I disagree with this common argument. The conquest of space gives a goal to humanity and brings us all together. Furthermore it has been shown to disrupt technology.

What purpose does this give? Fly off the planet?
We cannot get along on one planet full of resources, we are waging constant wars and strife. Wars are still going on, people are still starving. We cannot know what will happen tomorrow.
What if some Iran or North Korea will unleash a nuclear war, what good will Mars be for us? Where will you fly from a radioactive piece of earth?
Why should we set distant goals outside our planet when we can try to solve problems here and live in peace and prosperity. I cannot understand this.

Umm, want a direct answer? We are on a gambling discussion thread and we are not on politics thread or a philosophy thread or like a morality thread. We discuss the possibility of waging and betting who will go to Mars first. Almost impossible but achievable feat of mankind. Some of us just want to discuss more of the history of the space wars. If you want to discuss the morality of such an endeavor I suggest we move to politics or some other thread that caters to your question as to "Why we set distant goals outside our planet and try to solve problems here", not here. I like to wager please.

[Timelord2067]

I had to have a quiet chuckle when Elon Musk started babbling he's going to build a base on the Moon, then we're all off to Mars.  You could see his glib comments were spontaneous for the cameras.

[alani123]

I had to have a quiet chuckle when Elon Musk started babbling he's going to build a base on the Moon, then we're all off to Mars.  You could see his glib comments were spontaneous for the cameras.

Elong says many things that he probably is already aware that are impossible. He went on Joe Rogan's show talking about some thermodynamically impossible feats with rocket powered cars and such... Dude knows people pump and dump stocks based on shit he says. He hypes up things like the hyperloop while being perfectly aware that they are impossible to do.
His statements on mars are especially dumb if you ask me. Colonization of mars is definitely something too far out of our reach currently.

[ethereumhunter]

I had to have a quiet chuckle when Elon Musk started babbling he's going to build a base on the Moon, then we're all off to Mars.  You could see his glib comments were spontaneous for the cameras.

Elong says many things that he probably is already aware that are impossible. He went on Joe Rogan's show talking about some thermodynamically impossible feats with rocket powered cars and such... Dude knows people pump and dump stocks based on shit he says. He hypes up things like the hyperloop while being perfectly aware that they are impossible to do.
His statements on mars are especially dumb if you ask me. Colonization of mars is definitely something too far out of our reach currently.

Who knows what will happen in the future since we don't know what technology can happen? But if we see the technology right now, I think that it is possible to happen in the future because the technology itself is evolving to better technology. We can see that before we only watch the robot can serve us and help us to do something, but now, we see that we are close to that technology. So everything is possible in the future.

[Welsh]

Its incredibly hard to make a prediction of the growth of technology, and therefore our capabilities in the near future. So, although Elon Musk's predictions might seem a little far fetched, and don't get me wrong they are. I think it certainly might be possible in the lifetime of a few users on this forum.  Obviously, Elon is a businessman, and he knows how to make money. He knows that going on Joe Rogans podcast was a good move, and he knows exactly what to say to increase his sales. However, Elon does have a good track record of delivering what hes said he will do. Although, its usually a little longer than the initial prediction.

I don't personally believe there will be a singular effort in the space race, and sending the first people on mars. It will likely be a joint effort among the major companies. Elon will likely be given a contract by NASA, and NASA will work together with various other countries space teams. So, a space wager might be a little difficult to come up with if they were all going to contribute in some way of form. On the American point of view, NASA is probably the more experienced in manned missions, and SpaceX has been making good progress on the engineering pioneering such as the reusable rocket. There's loads of different companies though, and its hard to predict how much each will be involved, but I do believe there will be multiple involved.

[Mauser]

I don't personally believe there will be a singular effort in the space race, and sending the first people on mars. It will likely be a joint effort among the major companies. Elon will likely be given a contract by NASA, and NASA will work together with various other countries space teams. So, a space wager might be a little difficult to come up with if they were all going to contribute in some way of form. On the American point of view, NASA is probably the more experienced in manned missions, and SpaceX has been making good progress on the engineering pioneering such as the reusable rocket. There's loads of different companies though, and its hard to predict how much each will be involved, but I do believe there will be multiple involved.

This seems like most plausible way to get the first person on Mars. The more companies work together the higher our chances. I wish the world was evolving more and instead of thinking in terms of which country get to Mars first we would see all major space agencies to work together. The Chinese doing a lot of work with getting to the back site of the moon. Same with India, their space program is doing a lot of work too. If we could pool all this knowledge together we would be much further ahead as the human race.

[travwill]

Its incredibly hard to make a prediction of the growth of technology, and therefore our capabilities in the near future. So, although Elon Musk's predictions might seem a little far fetched, and don't get me wrong they are. I think it certainly might be possible in the lifetime of a few users on this forum.  Obviously, Elon is a businessman, and he knows how to make money. He knows that going on Joe Rogans podcast was a good move, and he knows exactly what to say to increase his sales. However, Elon does have a good track record of delivering what hes said he will do. Although, its usually a little longer than the initial prediction.

I don't personally believe there will be a singular effort in the space race, and sending the first people on mars. It will likely be a joint effort among the major companies. Elon will likely be given a contract by NASA, and NASA will work together with various other countries space teams. So, a space wager might be a little difficult to come up with if they were all going to contribute in some way of form. On the American point of view, NASA is probably the more experienced in manned missions, and SpaceX has been making good progress on the engineering pioneering such as the reusable rocket. There's loads of different companies though, and its hard to predict how much each will be involved, but I do believe there will be multiple involved.

I agree with you. Things like this are very difficult to predict. In fact, everything Musk says should be taken not literally, but figuratively, as hints of potential opportunities in the future.
It is important that people believe in him and his company, which leads to further investment and an increase in the chances of implementing his plans.
Plus, various technological breakthroughs can dictate the vector of the space race and the technological development of mankind as a whole.

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

Space had been one of my favorite places to explore and I have even wasted a lot of months learning the technicalities. But sadly, I have missed this topic but anyways just skimmed through some of the notable posters over in this topic. I play KSP a lot nowadays and roam around Space through Space Engine looking for a few brightly lit quasars in some far corners of our universe (just found 1 in my 2 year search).

I can confidently say that what ever we dream of or see in the sci-fi space movies like Interstellar is practically possible but all we need is that we need to be focused on the outer space all the time and must invest huge amount of money and resources to make that happen. So, if we are really in need to evacuate this planet as soon as possible probably in 2-3 centuries we wouldn't have a second thought other than sending humans to Mars within the next decade.

It was indeed possible for us to prove the "Newton's cannonball Experiment" mentioned in his "Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica" within 250 years of publishing. Similarly it would have taken only a 2-3 decades (from 1969) for us to land on Mars but the money wasn't totally spent on the space programs and we didn't hire as much engineers to make impossible things as possible within our reach. After wasting nearly 2 years in exploring outer space through Space Engine, I firmly believe there should be life somewhere in far off galaxies or in nearby superclusters. But what prevents us from contacting them is the technology which we have today or the life present there can either be a single celled organism or something like the Aliens which are shown in E.T or Independence Day movies.

I don't personally believe there will be a singular effort in the space race, and sending the first people on mars. It will likely be a joint effort among the major companies.

Pretty much this TBH. Sometime by the end of next decade, we will be having Lunar Gateway (designed by Canada, Europe and Japan) rotating on top of Moon along with Rocket Fuel which will play a very huge role in Post Lunar Missions. Before landing on Mars, we would also be setting up a Moon Base. So, many of us would be watching the first step on Mars before our life ends if all goes exactly as planned and there is no removal of planned targets.

P.S Practically speaking based on the available facts, our Oort Cloud will be disturbed again in 240,000 and when this happens we will be having a large influx of comets targeting our inner Solar System. If this tends to pose a bigger danger for the humankind in future, we should be looking out for a new home.

[iTradeChips]

What ever happened to that proposed reality TV program that was promising to send a crew to Mars (one way) with the landing / viewing as pay per view?

I also the news before like 2 years ago, but I am not sure. The news features people who are being paid big amounts so that they could sleep for long hours and also live inside a capsule that would mimic a spaceship that will bring people to the planet Mars. These people will simply live inside the capsule for a few months and scientists will measure everything that they can measure, so that they could know what would be the effects of long term isolation of humans due to space travel. I have not heard of that as well and whether the results are encouraging or not.

[john_nautica]

What ever happened to that proposed reality TV program that was promising to send a crew to Mars (one way) with the landing / viewing as pay per view?

I also the news before like 2 years ago, but I am not sure. The news features people who are being paid big amounts so that they could sleep for long hours and also live inside a capsule that would mimic a spaceship that will bring people to the planet Mars. These people will simply live inside the capsule for a few months and scientists will measure everything that they can measure, so that they could know what would be the effects of long term isolation of humans due to space travel. I have not heard of that as well and whether the results are encouraging or not.

I have also heard about this before. I did not imagine that this concept would be really pursued more the following years. Although, I am wondering how would the results of this betting idea would be generated? Will it be base from the news as well? But what if different reports were presented?

[AjithBtc]

The space mission that failed during the month of July has now made the space wager more interesting. If this was a success mission, surely people will select odds of win. Now more and more mission into the wager contest will make the space wagers popular. In particular these kind of betting will make the space enthusiasts get involved much.

[DireWolfM14]

Its incredibly hard to make a prediction of the growth of technology, and therefore our capabilities in the near future. So, although Elon Musk's predictions might seem a little far fetched, and don't get me wrong they are. I think it certainly might be possible in the lifetime of a few users on this forum.  Obviously, Elon is a businessman, and he knows how to make money. He knows that going on Joe Rogans podcast was a good move, and he knows exactly what to say to increase his sales. However, Elon does have a good track record of delivering what hes said he will do. Although, its usually a little longer than the initial prediction.

Technology is moving at a rapid rate these days, just today I read that Elon is might be ready to start human trials on his Neuralink project, and another story about a battery made of nuclear waste that won't need recharging for 28,000 years.  If the first is true, then we can all go to Mars, Total Recall style.  If the second is true, the implications of a limitless power supply are only bound by imagination.  Of course these fantastical projects are usually decades from becoming reality, having any practical application, or being affordable enough to become commonplace.

Space travel will get there in the years to come.  Whether it's affordable for the average joe or not, it will become affordable enough for businesses to take advantage of the opportunities.  It's already getting cheaper as multiple countries and private enterprises are competing for contracts.

What ever happened to that proposed reality TV program that was promising to send a crew to Mars (one way) with the landing / viewing as pay per view?

Are you referring to Mars One?  I heard it went bankrupt, it was probably a scam from the start.  There have been several Mars colony simulations, but I don't know of any that were featured as a reality show.

[Shasha80]

What ever happened to that proposed reality TV program that was promising to send a crew to Mars (one way) with the landing / viewing as pay per view?

I also the news before like 2 years ago, but I am not sure. The news features people who are being paid big amounts so that they could sleep for long hours and also live inside a capsule that would mimic a spaceship that will bring people to the planet Mars. These people will simply live inside the capsule for a few months and scientists will measure everything that they can measure, so that they could know what would be the effects of long term isolation of humans due to space travel. I have not heard of that as well and whether the results are encouraging or not.

If I was offered that opportunity, I would have turned it down, just imagining it would be terrible. Must fall asleep in a deep capsule
a long time, for the experiment people will be sent to the planet Mars later. What if there are side effects, the risk is too great.
Although the fees offered are quite large, the risks we have to accept are also quite large.

[maydna]

If I was offered that opportunity, I would have turned it down, just imagining it would be terrible. Must fall asleep in a deep capsule
a long time, for the experiment people will be sent to the planet Mars later. What if there are side effects, the risk is too great.
Although the fees offered are quite large, the risks we have to accept are also quite large.

I prefer to try with the other, which is not too risky for my life. If that mission can succeed, that will be a big move in the technology, and that can lead to having another mission to the outer space. But if that fails, people's lives will be a risk because they are going to the outer space using that capsule. But I hope that people who are going with that capsule will be okay.

It is not worth risking our lives because that needs the courage to join in that mission. But the result will make people curious, and they need to wait for some time to see that.

[Naida_BR]

China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

China is already a dominant nation in the Earth and now they try to dominate the space as well.
Do we know the real mission of those astronauts that go there?
Seems like a long trip however and I wonder why both China and UAE are sending missions on the same time.

[iTradeChips]

What I think the best question right now and a good basis for a bet is this question. What country will be the first country to send Men to Mars. Then the next best question is, what country would be the first to send humans to the planet Titan in Jupiter. Titan is a planet with an atmosphere of Methane. And also the oceans of the planet are made of liquid methane as well. It is a flammable element here on planet Earth but with the lack of oxygen, combustion is impossible there. Titan would be the next oil rush of the future civilizations maybe for the next 500 years. We are at the infancy of space travel and this would be an exciting ride for many people in the future.

[jademaxsuy]

High chances the China could.make it. We should not underestimate their capabilities sinde they got technology too that is working. If you wanted to wage on this then go on china making it to mars. As we evolve today modern technology we can have high assurance that applying this technology to reach mars is at great help.

However, I do hope they are not using cheap quality materials in their equipment because high chance that it can't reach even in the moon.

[dothebeats]

If sports books are going so far as to listing events such as hotdog eating contests on their platform, up to national elections on some countries and sociopolitical events, it is possible that they will be including things such as this. The first manned mission to Mars would be the prized trophy that economic superpowers will try to reach out for since they will show the rest of the world how superior their tech are, plus the ones who get there first would be able to survey the red planet thoroughly for possible resources and whatnot. It will take a long ass time but people bet on literally anything that goes under the sun, so expect this type of lines in the next years to come.

And if I were to bet which country would make a dent on our history as a space-faring civilization, I would say it would be the US give the advancements it is seeing on rocket technology thanks to the help of brilliant engineers and private companies testing the waters for NASA.

[Timelord2067]

What's far more likely is that a base or bases together with mining for water / fuel at the Luna Poles will have been underway for years to build interplanetary exploration. Why I say that is due to the sheer amount of fuel needed to leave the planet/ low Earth orbit.

Once on Mars I think there'll be numerous mining ventures start up partly for the return trip and partly  to avoid home planet regulations on environmental protection.

(And it'll probably be a corporation not a government that gets to Mars first)

[stomachgrowls]

If sports books are going so far as to listing events such as hotdog eating contests on their platform, up to national elections on some countries and sociopolitical events, it is possible that they will be including things such as this. The first manned mission to Mars would be the prized trophy that economic superpowers will try to reach out for since they will show the rest of the world how superior their tech are, plus the ones who get there first would be able to survey the red planet thoroughly for possible resources and whatnot. It will take a long ass time but people bet on literally anything that goes under the sun, so expect this type of lines in the next years to come.

And if I were to bet which country would make a dent on our history as a space-faring civilization, I would say it would be the US give the advancements it is seeing on rocket technology thanks to the help of brilliant engineers and private companies testing the waters for NASA.

We can eventually see the weirdest bets available on last year: https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/25-weirdest-bets-available-2019/

If these things did get some consideration then theres no doubt that these space exploration or race would definitely had a line.This might really take for too long but
for sure that there are fellas who would put up and select which one would be the first.

[Wawa2013]

Some countries with good economies such as China are not impossible to send a mission to Mars. But I have doubts about mission to Mars
conducted by the UAE state. Indeed, the UAE country is financially capable of financing the mission to Mars. But from the technological
capabilities of the UAE still away from China. Maybe if there are gambling platforms that provide bet options regarding mission to Mars,
it will be very interesting and I'll bet China will win when compared to the UAE.

[2double0]

Ah, so reaching to Mars does have a space race wager? Gambling is getting too much outstanding these days when we get to gather more knowledge about these things when such betting types will pop. Op, I read your latest comment here and I want to convey that some day soon, we are going to get some affordable rides on Earth which will give us space-like adventures on Earth itself as Japan has made it possible by doing their first successful trial for a flying taxi. I think we should also wager on this as to which country, these cars will go first.

[Ryker1]

Well, I just now heard this kind of betting. Until now this race has existed?
Space race perhaps an event of those countries that fully developed and that can afford to have a spaceship and join the race. Perhaps, the betting of this race will take so long before the event will happen. I think this becomes bored for those people who want a quick result. Indeed, this is a luxury game I have ever heard. It's quite good to watch if there is a live video on this.

[Debonaire217]

Well, I just now heard this kind of betting. Until now this race has existed?
Space race perhaps an event of those countries that fully developed and that can afford to have a spaceship and join the race. Perhaps, the betting of this race will take so long before the event will happen. I think this becomes bored for those people who want a quick result. Indeed, this is a luxury game I have ever heard. It's quite good to watch if there is a live video on this.

I think he's just asking what are the odds or possibility that both China and UAE succeed in launching mission to mars. Honestly, I can't think of possible formula for this because there's so many factor that needs to be considered such as how well they built their rockets, how many liters of gasoline they need, how good their software and aerodynamics design, and also, if they could develop technology to be capable of staying in mars for a couple of time.

On the otherhand, if there will be betting for this, both china and UAE has the potential to succeed, but if SpaceX joins, I'll go with Elon.

[swogerino]

I think all major gambling companies will not offer such bets as it takes 7 months to reach Mars if any of the space ships will make it there.Gamblers usually don’t like to wait that long for a bet they place and in fact most of gamblers place daily bets in sports or even instant ones in slot machines.

Going to Mars is good for us the humans and check if there is any sign of life there.I have heard many conspirative theories that water may exist there somewhere.

[Mauser]

I think all major gambling companies will not offer such bets as it takes 7 months to reach Mars if any of the space ships will make it there.Gamblers usually don’t like to wait that long for a bet they place and in fact most of gamblers place daily bets in sports or even instant ones in slot machines.

Going to Mars is good for us the humans and check if there is any sign of life there.I have heard many conspirative theories that water may exist there somewhere.

I agree, the time frame is just to long to reach Mars. If Elon Musk plans to be on Mars in 2030 then issuing bets today with a potential payout in 10 years is very risky. What would happen to your money if the bookmaker goes bankrupt? The traditional betting website can't over such wagers. We would need a different system, with long term escrow accounts.
Maybe something like this could be done on the forum, but is the demand really there to make it profitable?

[jademaxsuy]

I agree, the time frame is just to long to reach Mars. If Elon Musk plans to be on Mars in 2030 then issuing bets today with a potential payout in 10 years is very risky. What would happen to your money if the bookmaker goes bankrupt? The traditional betting website can't over such wagers. We would need a different system, with long term escrow accounts.
Maybe something like this could be done on the forum, but is the demand really there to make it profitable?

Well, yeah I just also realized after reading the post. It is quite risky to wage a bet because of the time frame that will reach to even 7 mos. of waiting probably?

Is there any other way in betting to this? If none then betting would still be possible. The important thing here is that we need a trusted escrow to hold the bets for that long with low service fee. I bet there are some escrow service willing to do this.

[Welsh]

Pretty much this TBH. Sometime by the end of next decade, we will be having Lunar Gateway (designed by Canada, Europe and Japan) rotating on top of Moon along with Rocket Fuel which will play a very huge role in Post Lunar Missions. Before landing on Mars, we would also be setting up a Moon Base. So, many of us would be watching the first step on Mars before our life ends if all goes exactly as planned and there is no removal of planned targets.

P.S Practically speaking based on the available facts, our Oort Cloud will be disturbed again in 240,000 and when this happens we will be having a large influx of comets targeting our inner Solar System. If this tends to pose a bigger danger for the humankind in future, we should be looking out for a new home.

To me, the its the only plausible way of doing it. Like I've previously touched upon, each company that is capable of advanced space technology has a specific thing they're good at, and they aren't a jack of all trades. SpaceX has had to much experience with manned missions as an example, while Nasa has had a lot of experience with manned missions. Although, SpaceX has been successfully developing groundbreaking technology. It seems you've got the private firms currently pushing the boundaries, while you've got the government owned ones which have the experience which will be vital.

Having the technology is one cog in the system, but running a successful mission is far more than one cog.

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I agree, the time frame is just to long to reach Mars. If Elon Musk plans to be on Mars in 2030 then issuing bets today with a potential payout in 10 years is very risky. What would happen to your money if the bookmaker goes bankrupt? The traditional betting website can't over such wagers. We would need a different system, with long term escrow accounts.
Maybe something like this could be done on the forum, but is the demand really there to make it profitable?

Well, yeah I just also realized after reading the post. It is quite risky to wage a bet because of the time frame that will reach to even 7 mos. of waiting probably?

Is there any other way in betting to this? If none then betting would still be possible. The important thing here is that we need a trusted escrow to hold the bets for that long with low service fee. I bet there are some escrow service willing to do this.

Main issue when it comes to these kind of bets where theres still a definite time on when it would happen and we can presume that it wouldnt really be happening too early which means bets will really be on hold for too long and waiting up for the out come.

As mentioned where bookmaker still be possibly be running until that time comes? One of the drawbacks on betting on events which takes too long for them to happen but there are people whom do still interested on this one.

Having a long term escrow would be considerable but we cant still also be sure on how his trustworthiness would last.