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July 28, 2020, 12:32:43 AM
Last edit: July 28, 2020, 12:43:29 AM by DireWolfM14
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Apperantly the bookies are only interested in the human race to Mars, not the robotic ones.

Hmm, call me ignorant, but there were already robots on Mars who collected some data etc., no ?

Yes, of course.  But for the most part extra-planetary exploration has been dominated by the US and EU.  Not to say they haven't experienced failures.  Fewer than successes, thankfully.  Which is why I'm curious about the odds for newbies in the game.

And right now we have two (soon to be three) robots racing to Mars!  Where's the love for the robots?

The odds seem high with this one since they are extremely careful regarding the systems and the components of these projects.

I tend to agree.  Both missions seem to be well on their way up to now, one of the difficult phases is over.  The more difficult phase will be 7 months from now, this part should be easy sailing.  I think at this point, the technology for SBRs is well understood by all around the world.  The failures of the other missions is mostly public knowledge, and those risks can be mitigated.

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July 28, 2020, 01:10:06 AM
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With the internet, our life becomes simple, and we don't have to go to want someplace to collect the data. We can use the connection to search for it.

If the bet is not too high, I think people will place a bet, and they will place a lot of tickets while the result does not come too soon. Maybe people will forget if they place that bet.

its not about being virtual or not but its the fact that gambling has gone different now . many possibilities that opened up on gambling for many decades and years  . before we only know gambling exist on cards , dominos , using  physical currencies .  now everything people think off relates to gambling .  this space betting is insane because this takes along time to wait for whos gonna be the winner or loosers .  i wouldnt bet on it but maybe person that have alot of money and patience will find it interesting
The gambling industry now has evolved and not just happen in real life, but also happens on the internet, and that attracts many people to try online gambling. I think some people will find that bet is interesting for them because that is the first time they know about that bet. They will know that this bet will need the patience to wait for the result because the possibilities to see the result will be longer than they can think. They can hope that the casino can run for a long time until the bets can close in the future.

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July 28, 2020, 02:12:57 AM
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I am among those who like to follow the news about program space to Mars, but that does not mean it is interesting to bet.
Although finally there are gambling sites who is willing to open this bet, surely the results of determining the victory will
be long. And can be a long-term betting, since I'm not typical people who have high patience. I don't think mission to Mars is
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July 28, 2020, 03:03:43 AM
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China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

The only question here is that would there be people whom will gamble and bet on such a super long term game? It's like betting on what country would be sink first and what would stood longer. What if the other had their upgrade or a follow-up service, wouldn't that be unfair? And what exactly would we bet in here? There are many aspects in which could also has many changes from time to time. And would this even be profitable nor would there be really a market at all? I don't think so.
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July 28, 2020, 04:23:22 AM
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China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

The only question here is that would there be people whom will gamble and bet on such a super long term game? It's like betting on what country would be sink first and what would stood longer. What if the other had their upgrade or a follow-up service, wouldn't that be unfair? And what exactly would we bet in here? There are many aspects in which could also has many changes from time to time. And would this even be profitable nor would there be really a market at all? I don't think so.

If the odds are really nice why don't people bet on it?

Is this going to be a super long term game? People bet on sports matches which is going to take place even more than 5 months later. If the betting is on which between country A and B is going to send a mission to space or moon or Mars first, then I assume that the countries involved have already existing space programs that would probably launch a ship several months later.

This is not going to be a bet on whether Burundi will be able to launch a Mars mission earlier than South Sudan. Odds makers and betting sites won't offer the odds if the event is going to happen in the next 100 years.
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July 28, 2020, 05:04:01 AM
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I am among those who like to follow the news about program space to Mars, but that does not mean it is interesting to bet.
Although finally there are gambling sites who is willing to open this bet, surely the results of determining the victory will
be long. And can be a long-term betting, since I'm not typical people who have high patience. I don't think mission to Mars is
interesting for gambling.


you have your interest on heavenly bodies and its different from being an avid fan of betting . the results are long but i think they arent stupid enough to start a bet too early but they can open the bet when the results are about to show up   . like few days or few weeks from now  because i also saw longer events that a betting site supports  . mission to mars cant be interisting to bet but its an interisting topic to talk about  . i heard this on the news and its the  planet where scientist are studying if possible to live on here  ?
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July 28, 2020, 06:19:42 AM
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Attractive for mission gambling on Mars it will take a long time to grow the UAE wanted to have a successful mission to Mars but it was not possible mars must first be made habitable by humans.

A player must have a higher degree and concentration in the RTS genre for Homeward 2 to build its adversity. The commander-in-chief will not only have to manage the fleet quickly in the event of a collision but also plan for the acquisition and expenditure of resources needed to build new ships and conduct core research.
It will take a long time to see when humans can landing on Mars. I don't think that many people will place a bet on that, but if people have a big curiosity, they will try to place the bet, especially if the ticket is not too expensive.
In a short time, if humans want to live on Mars, we need to develop something that can help us survive, and that is not easy to do because that will need a lot of money.
After all, it is a new idea to have this bet because that can attract people to know more about the bet.

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July 28, 2020, 06:36:04 AM
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China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

America will win the space race, I reckon. The American government have been in space for 20 years and have begun to be bored of it if not for Elon Musk. A space race versus China might awake NASA's enthusiasm especially in the middle of this new cold war between the 2 countries hehehe.

I also speculate a war for the moon territories. The country that controls the moon might control sustainable space travel to Mars.


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July 28, 2020, 09:09:03 AM
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China just recently launched it's second attempted mission to Mars.  The Tianwen-1 mission should reach Mars in early 2021, after a 7-month journey.  Their not alone, the UAE also launched a mission to mission to Mars, the EMM-HOPE.

I haven't heard much about the Emirates' space program, but I've heard of the Chinese's a few times.  So it got me thinking about if they're going to actually make it this time.  And whether the UAE's ship will make it too.  I'm not a gambler, so I'm only wondering out of curiosity.  What do the odds maker's think?

Considering how NASA is training people to colonize MARS at the same time how people are trying to buy the land on Mars , at the same time India also launched the Mars rover in the past and took care of the cost Efficiently , I do think with all this *Settle on Mars* thing , most countries will try and get to Mars as soon as they can .

I do think China is gonna do that 100% , maybe not this year but years ahead .

Due to coronavirus their intentions might slow down but at the same time I think even the small countries will try and contribute, maybe try and do it together.

- But considering waging on the Space Stuff might as well mean waging on the country itself , how sure you are about the country's system ?
Do you believe they might actually do it ?

*I myself this The US have an advantage over this ofcourse*
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If the odds are really nice why don't people bet on it?

Is this going to be a super long term game? People bet on sports matches which is going to take place even more than 5 months later. If the betting is on which between country A and B is going to send a mission to space or moon or Mars first, then I assume that the countries involved have already existing space programs that would probably launch a ship several months later.

This is not going to be a bet on whether Burundi will be able to launch a Mars mission earlier than South Sudan. Odds makers and betting sites won't offer the odds if the event is going to happen in the next 100 years.

Then what do you think would be the odds on such betting idea? As I've said, there are numerous possibilities and changes that could happen on years and I think it's too impossible that someone would really wait longer than 6 months (in which I think the minimum months that the space mission would occur or the bets would occur). And doesn't what game are we really playing here? Whom would be successful first? Whom would make progress first or who would fail? Everything is open-ended in such situations.
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If the odds are really nice why don't people bet on it?

Is this going to be a super long term game? People bet on sports matches which is going to take place even more than 5 months later. If the betting is on which between country A and B is going to send a mission to space or moon or Mars first, then I assume that the countries involved have already existing space programs that would probably launch a ship several months later.

This is not going to be a bet on whether Burundi will be able to launch a Mars mission earlier than South Sudan. Odds makers and betting sites won't offer the odds if the event is going to happen in the next 100 years.

Then what do you think would be the odds on such betting idea? As I've said, there are numerous possibilities and changes that could happen on years and I think it's too impossible that someone would really wait longer than 6 months (in which I think the minimum months that the space mission would occur or the bets would occur). And doesn't what game are we really playing here? Whom would be successful first? Whom would make progress first or who would fail? Everything is open-ended in such situations.

I have no idea as to the possible odds. It has to depend on the specifics involved. But I am sure that odds makers won't release the odds for betting if there is no likely development in the next several months or a year or so. In the same way that they don't release odds yet to sports matches which have just been agreed upon and are still not certain if they push through or not.

No, it is not impossible for gamblers to bet on it even if it takes longer than 6 months. Gamblers bet on SpaceX as the most likely winner in terms of sending the first humans to Mars. SpaceX of Elon Musk is the heavy favorite over Blue Origin of Jeff Bezos or even NASA. But all this could mean they will get their money after at least a year.
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July 29, 2020, 05:49:34 AM
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It's amusing that OP came up with this idea and I think it would be difficult to create odds on this since there are a lot of things you need to consider to come up with the odds. I guess people never run out of ideas on what to bet on and it's really fun to see different ideas. Technology is evolving fast and a lot of things can happen over a short period of time that could affect the odds since it is a long-term bet.
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July 29, 2020, 08:33:56 AM
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This is the first time i have seen a bet on such an event.  Grin
Also note that if you place a bet on this that when will first human reach on the Mars before or after 2025, the result will come after 2025. So your money will be stuck for 5 years in this bet  Shocked

And your money will probably lose a lot of value in those 5 years if you bet using fiat Cheesy

In addition, the casino may disappear in 5 years, it could be safer to place a long term bet like this using smart contracts..



Compared to the first space race, we are much more conservative.. Nowadays we prefer to save lives rather than rushing.. most fatalities ocurred in the 60s.. I doubt that they will send people to mars before 2025..

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July 29, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
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It's amusing that OP came up with this idea and I think it would be difficult to create odds on this since there are a lot of things you need to consider to come up with the odds. I guess people never run out of ideas on what to bet on and it's really fun to see different ideas. Technology is evolving fast and a lot of things can happen over a short period of time that could affect the odds since it is a long-term bet.

Since no one knows the odds for the success of a Mars mission it would be on all the people betting to find some payouts. The only problem I see is that news about the Chinese space program are very scare and definitely controlled by the communist party. For Nasa or  SpaceX the news are much easier available and more independent. Betting should only be done on western space programs in my opinion.

I really like the idea and would like to bet myself on Mars mission. Only drawback would be that you would have to wait a very long time for your payout. If its a human on Mars in 25 years the payout needs to be adjusted for inflation.
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July 29, 2020, 09:44:51 AM
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This is the first time i have seen a bet on such an event.  Grin
Also note that if you place a bet on this that when will first human reach on the Mars before or after 2025, the result will come after 2025. So your money will be stuck for 5 years in this bet  Shocked

And your money will probably lose a lot of value in those 5 years if you bet using fiat Cheesy

In addition, the casino may disappear in 5 years, it could be safer to place a long term bet like this using smart contracts..
Compared to the first space race, we are much more conservative.. Nowadays we prefer to save lives rather than rushing.. most fatalities ocurred in the 60s.. I doubt that they will send people to mars before 2025..

That is what happens if the site is run away and we don't know, or we forget about the bet. 5 years will be a long time to wait, and no one will know about the result, so I think we can select another betting type to gamble so that we can know the result as soon as possible. Saving lives in this pandemic will be important because we need to continue for living, so we need to survive.

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July 29, 2020, 12:13:13 PM
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I'd rather place a bet on who'd be first to commercialize space flight.

There seems to be a few players in this race, like Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and Elon Musk's SpaceX. Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic is another well-established player.

I want to see which of these will be the first to open a space hotel or being mining asteroids too.

My money is on SpaceX for now, but Blue Origin is probably a sleeping beast.
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July 29, 2020, 12:30:21 PM
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Those countries see a great potential in Mars and those who will successfully land in Mars and stay there for quiet sometime will gain the advantage to other countries. I'm not shock how the China works with this one because we all know, they have the power and money to do that and they want to have access on everything, just like how they are working on South China Sea. UAE space shuttle are also doing great, MARS is big and its worth it for sure for them to spend that much. Since 90's they are exploring MARS and I bet in the next decade, a commercial flight will begin to MARS.

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July 29, 2020, 01:18:40 PM
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I never saw any such odd for any such things and even do not follow it. Never thought about it that people might even be looking into this as which one would be able to reach first and gamble on this as well. But yeah this is something interesting space and would now atleast investigate it and read something more about the space race and who all have launched and who all would be launching it.
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I never saw any such odd for any such things and even do not follow it. Never thought about it that people might even be looking into this as which one would be able to reach first and gamble on this as well. But yeah this is something interesting space and would now atleast investigate it and read something more about the space race and who all have launched and who all would be launching it.
There’s no wagers because people don’t have much interest about this thing because of a classified mission. Many attempted to reach MARS and some of them succeed as far as history says. I’m also wondering the real reason behind this thing or The Earth is really falling and only those who have the money can survive and relocate to MARS? Well, this is all speculation not unless those countries will state the main reason behind this one then I’ll place my bet.

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July 29, 2020, 01:32:32 PM
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I am surprised that there are these kinds of gambling that gambles to the unknown and uncertainties of man's achievements. China has been very active in it's space program and other developed countries has been keen to join in the space race as well, like India and U.A.E. We will be seeing more from the developed nations in the next fifty years and I am pretty sure we will send men to Mars within the century.

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