Domination of Longs

[Lasky366]

Longs definitely dominate on Shorts for the last several hours. But we are aalready passed the 10k$ Resistance and go to 12k$, that Local Correction is something we need, in order to locally kill new passengers. 😅.You know what I mean 😁

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[GreatArkansas]

This is good news for Bitcoin but this is not 100% accurate, bears still can takeover. And that percantage may manipulated by such an exchanges.
As what I remember before when we dump around below $5,000, the percentage of long is still high before but the price of Bitcoin continue to dump, so if you are do trading, don't totally really rely on this kind of platform.

[btc_angela]

Yes, I agree that short positions are getting rekt not just today though, it started when the price suddenly pump in the last 48 hours causing this break out run, or what I call mini bullrun. $10,200 already so it's just matter of time before we see another barrier broken, which is $10,500. And this is just the start of the week for us, so I wouldn't be surprised if $10,800-$11,000 will be achieved at the end of this week.

[slaman29]

Killing new passengers is a definitely must, but I'm actually surprised that the 10k did not immediately bounce first, since I'm sure we've got a lot of people waiting to TP at exactly this point, if not at 10200 which we are actually hovering around now.

Or are people really going mostly in on derivatives at this point and then bringing their money over to physical now?

[Wind_FURY]

This is good news for Bitcoin but this is not 100% accurate, bears still can takeover. And that percantage may manipulated by such an exchanges.

As what I remember before when we dump around below $5,000, the percentage of long is still high before but the price of Bitcoin continue to dump, so if you are do trading, don't totally really rely on this kind of platform.

Zoom out, there are no true bears since 2010.

Plus anything "bearish", or crash, is a welcome downward volatility to buy the dip, and HODL. I don't understand people who say that they are "long-term bullish", but short Bitcoin and hope it crashes to $6,000.

[ashmodeus]

it's not surprising for me,and about what happened today,like i say before on another thread,now its a final barrier between going to next resistance on 12-13k range,or back to 7-6k. The great news, according to many aspects like charts,trading volume giving a positive point,which mean,it seems btc can go futher, however its doesn't mean bear cant do anything.

[FanEagle]

Longs are not really all that powerful when you think about it. Just a few months ago there was a situation where longs were so much that shorts all had to do was sell all their coins and some dude sold tens of thousands of bitcoin he had in order to make the profit, dude probably made 10x of the amount he lost from selling and that was it, all the shorters made the profits of longers.

What you are missing out is, when there is more long futures sold and they are dominating, you could get in with a lot less money into shorts versus longs, like a sportsbetting, where you could bet on getafe to win against real Madrid, for lower amount you can make a bigger profit. So, all they have to do is destroy it once and you will get all of the money longs have put into the market.

[Bitum]

It looks like the long times have arrived) even the altcoins have shown real profit. So the whole corona crisis only brought advantages for the crypto market. The situation can change at any time.

[Sanugarid]

Well it looks like that people are optimistic about the price, not pretty much of an issue actually , that only means that the market is healthy perfectly balanced as I see it, you don't want to see a 80% short mate.
As for the price today, reaching at $10K expect more domination on long trades, after it touches $11K or $12K then that's the time you'll see much of shorts, people these days are weak in my opinion, they are too afraid to be left out, a small price advantage looks huge to them. But if the arrow goes the opposite side, there would be more people who will be liquidated, got lucky if they exit their position before reaching 80 margin.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The use of LONGS are very important when speculating on the market, especially when trading Scalping mode and even to place long-term positions.

When you see this type of behavior, it is always good to put a position in LONG, you have more security to make a business decision. I would say that it is a good time for those who want to invest right now in Bitcoin, the opportunity should be seized.

[JeromeTash]

Woow and this was about 20 hours ago before a good bitcoin pump today.. ETH was leading the pump from last week but looks like BTC decided to take over. We might be seeing $11K by tomorrow. Well well well we are already there, aren't we?

OP which tool did you use to get this image, I would like to use it when I am analyzing my entry points

[btc_angela]

Woow and this was about 20 hours ago before a good bitcoin pump today.. ETH was leading the pump from last week but looks like BTC decided to take over. We might be seeing $11K by tomorrow. Well well well we are already there, aren't we?

OP which tool did you use to get this image, I would like to use it when I am analyzing my entry points

Right, we go to $11,300, but the usual short sellers, but it doesn't matter, the price goes to $11,200 again and as we have seen, bears are really getting careless and rest at this point as long position is still dominating at this point. I also said that $11k end of the end, so I was wrong, next stop should be $12k now. 

And there could be bears right now becoming bullish.

[tbterryboy]

For the people who are new to this, long and short are two types of position in trading where long means that you own the security and short means strategy that speculates on the decline in a security price. Bitcoin looks quite bullish so it is obvious that the longs will be greater than the shorts in terms of percentage. Bitcoin almost stands at 11200$ mark and the next resistance appears to be at $11500. If bitcoin is able to break through that resistance, the next stop will be at 12300$. After that, we might observe some correction in the market and they price might again fall down to $10000 mark.

So, it is making all the sense to be going for longs right now with bitcoin markets. But, shorts also might be making profits because short-term corrections are happening at every part of the market still when you are shorting and where you are booking profits matters is you are going for shorts.

[wywoc]

The market seems very bullish, currently I have to pay more than 0.1% funding fee for a long position, or 0.3% of total volume per day to keep a long position. We need a correction to cool down the market and sustainable growth.

[deisik]

Longs definitely dominate on Shorts for the last several hours. But we are aalready passed the 10k$ Resistance and go to 12k$, that Local Correction is something we need, in order to locally kill new passengers

I don't think we are ready for that

There are not enough long positions opened on borrowed money that would call and allow for a good long squeeze, Bitmex style. We should first see a plateau before we enter a flash crash in full swing (read, playing against the market can be dangerous). But no matter what side of the trade you are on, you should never forget the unwritten truth that every bull run ends with a bull trap. We are just not there yet

[rexxarofmoknathal]

Longs definitely dominate on Shorts for the last several hours. But we are aalready passed the 10k$ Resistance and go to 12k$, that Local Correction is something we need, in order to locally kill new passengers. 😅.You know what I mean 😁

I agree the Longs have been doing very well for the last 48h or so. I do expect the resistance to hit soon around 12K and get into Short for the much needed correction. With how the market is booming this is inevitable. The new buyers will drop out soon after the correction and some people even entertain the idea that this year this may help reach a new ATH circa >18k. Let's hope things can get this peachy.

[Stedsm]

Don't just start celebrating because the bear markets aren't over yet. If you think this will end up in BTC crossing $20k, think again. I'm not a bear not I've any positions open either way, but for the sake of being a good investor I'm here again warning you back to be ready for a small crash. Check my post history and you'll find something that will prove what I'm talking about. Not too old, just the first 2 pages of my history will be enough.

[bolawin]

Up and down just like life. Anybody know why price jump?

[Stedsm]

Up and down just like life. Anybody know why price jump?

There are many reasons why price rise (and eventually falls), just because:

- The demand hikes a lot against the supply
- Expiry of big futures contracts for BTC
- A group of whales try to accumulate immediately as they know something
- Miners sell their mined fees to cover some losses and even to enjoy their profits
- A pattern is about to be broken and a technical bot is set up with sheer money in order to long/short BTC according to the orders provided by a whale

[electronicash]

the ones who will short are probably the ones in the 5-15 minute charts that could still be profitable for them.  but its sensible to go long while the market is really getting good, seem no loss for that option.

Don't just start celebrating because the bear markets aren't over yet. If you think this will end up in BTC crossing $20k, think again. I'm not a bear not I've any positions open either way, but for the sake of being a good investor I'm here again warning you back to be ready for a small crash. Check my post history and you'll find something that will prove what I'm talking about. Not too old, just the first 2 pages of my history will be enough.

i'm sure they will have their doubts after to many bulltrap going on since the last time they were lured to go all in. it hasn't cross $20k that means those who waited this long as still not satisfied as they bought their BTC at its height.

[Wind_FURY]

it's not surprising for me,and about what happened today,

Yeah, no surprise. Bitcoin up, Bitcoin down.

like i say before on another thread,now its a final barrier between going to next resistance on 12-13k range,

HODL by this time, don't FOMO.

or back to 7-6k.

But another golden opportunity to buy the dip, and?

The great news, according to many aspects like charts,trading volume giving a positive point,which mean,it seems btc can go futher, however its doesn't mean bear cant do anything.

It is currently very bad time to be a bear in my opinion, Bitcoin is on its price discovery to 6 digits.

[tvplus006]

...OP which tool did you use to get this image, I would like to use it when I am analyzing my entry points

I see that the OP didn't respond to you , and I suggest you try the service that I use in my work: https://www.bybt.com/ Meanwhile, the market situation has stabilized and there is currently equality between long and short. In the next couple of days, the price will be trading in a triangle, after which we will be able to see more open longs.

[Wind_FURY]

...OP which tool did you use to get this image, I would like to use it when I am analyzing my entry points

I see that the OP didn't respond to you , and I suggest you try the service that I use in my work: https://www.bybt.com/ Meanwhile, the market situation has stabilized and there is currently equality between long and short. In the next couple of days, the price will be trading in a triangle, after which we will be able to see more open longs.

OR simply post your bids lower now before "the Bart" to, I believe if we're lucky to given the golden opportunity under $10,000, will crash to $7,000 to $9,000.

[Dilerium90]

Bitcoin always acts mean at the moment, when everyone thinks, that everything is fine. Even now, when we broke through $ 10,000 and went higher, everyone expects it to fall to $ 9,900 or to $ 7,000 and we can buy it, but ... What if Bitcoin goes below $ 3,000? This scenario is unlikely, but possible. Then everyone will suffer))

[rodskee]

Bitcoin always acts mean at the moment, when everyone thinks, that everything is fine. Even now, when we broke through $ 10,000 and went higher, everyone expects it to fall to $ 9,900 or to $ 7,000 and we can buy it, but ... What if Bitcoin goes below $ 3,000? This scenario is unlikely, but possible. Then everyone will suffer))

Wild truth that needs also to reconsider, bitcoin as we knew it
have this characteristics
To those who are new to this party it's better to keep doing your
research beforehand
There are lots of possibilities that the value may crash to the point
that it will go to that level.





The more you understand the more you will anticipate the how value
will turned to,
better to position yourself where risk is handy for you to take, keep
learning to lessen further damages.

[abel1337]

Pretty normal if we are talking about bitcoin, Price just goes pump and dump. After experiencing such dump I don't sell any of my bitcoin lower than the price when I bought it because in my experience it is just going back to the price before it goes down, It takes time sometimes like on 2018 where bitcoin upset many traders because it takes too long to recover but now it is still on the process.

Well it depends on how you trade but it is what I see on bitcoin and the longs are the ones who gave me more profit in my experience in trading bitcoin.

[deisik]

Bitcoin always acts mean at the moment, when everyone thinks, that everything is fine. Even now, when we broke through $ 10,000 and went higher, everyone expects it to fall to $ 9,900 or to $ 7,000 and we can buy it, but ... What if Bitcoin goes below $ 3,000? This scenario is unlikely, but possible. Then everyone will suffer))

This scenario is certainly possible

However, it won't be Bitcoin's fault. The point is, you can't actually say that it is Bitcoin that acts mean. If it goes below 3k, it will most definitely be due to some external event affecting the whole economy. For example, the infamous March 12 crash was due to a stock market crash, and Bitcoin only followed it. Of course, it showed pretty clearly that the cryptocurrency market is not a thing unto itself or entirely disconnected from the external world

[Wind_FURY]

Bitcoin always acts mean at the moment, when everyone thinks, that everything is fine. Even now, when we broke through $ 10,000 and went higher, everyone expects it to fall to $ 9,900 or to $ 7,000 and we can buy it, but ... What if Bitcoin goes below $ 3,000?

GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY! BUY!

This scenario is unlikely, but possible. Then everyone will suffer))

Then everyone will be thankful when Bitcoin reaches its path to price discovery of $100,000, or more, per coin. I have always believed that Bitcoin's macro-economics has always been pointing to 6 digits, or more.

[JeromeTash]

I see that the OP didn't respond to you , and I suggest you try the service that I use in my work: https://www.bybt.com/ Meanwhile, the market situation has stabilized and there is currently equality between long and short. In the next couple of days, the price will be trading in a triangle, after which we will be able to see more open longs.

Thanks. Just checked it out and it's a great tool when wants to check out the state of the market and an overview of trader positions. Bookmarked the link

Bitcoin always acts mean at the moment, when everyone thinks, that everything is fine. Even now, when we broke through $ 10,000 and went higher, everyone expects it to fall to $ 9,900 or to $ 7,000 and we can buy it, but ... What if Bitcoin goes below $ 3,000? This scenario is unlikely, but possible. Then everyone will suffer))

If bitcoin was only increasing in price without any correction then it would not be something healthy for the bitcoin believers. Some would actually think it's a ponzi scheme, because that's what ponzi schemes like bitconnect did. It would be a bubble that would burst at one point, never to recover again

[wywoc]

Well we see the result, a 1500$ dump candle of BTC in few second and more than 1 billion USD wiped out in only BTC & ETH long positon (If you include other altcoins, it's even higher). My long positon was liquided too. We can't say any thing about this market.

[MCobian]

Seeing that Bitcoin is so dominate, I am increasingly optimistic that this year the target price of $ 20,000 can be achieved.
Although the price of Bitcoin is currently moderate correction of 3% is still within normal limits. So in a few hours we will
see the price of Bitcoin will return the pump. Take advantage of this Bitcoin price correction to collect Bitcoin. I also plan
to buy more Bitcoin now to increase the amount the bitcoin that I have.

[cotton ball]

Still you long your assets last three hours? how do you feel, I can't trust with bitcoin always on the top price suddenly could dump without bad information and happening today with bitcoin back lower price just few second, when reaching profit 100% or 50% sell your short and check situation how next step long or short.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

The trader just need a few minutes to change his strategy. They can minimize the risk and look for a chance to gain a lot of profit. The news still bullish, I mean I haven't saw some information which directed to make bitcoin price down.

It might the economic situation in some countries especially US country who still face an economic problem. The government tried to print a lot of money for stimulus and its citizens use the money for investing like in gold and bitcoin. Yeah, that is what I see at this time and this is why bitcoin price and gold price increasing.

[deisik]

Still you long your assets last three hours? how do you feel, I can't trust with bitcoin always on the top price suddenly could dump without bad information and happening today with bitcoin back lower price just few second, when reaching profit 100% or 50% sell your short and check situation how next step long or short

Cuz that's a typical pump and dump

As an aside, many people still seem to take such price action without a lot of critical thinking. Most of Bitcoin's value comes through speculation, and to deal with this, you can employ two general strategies. The first is to hold and pray, the second is to try to ride these regular pumps and dumps (aka a buy low sell high stratagem). But no matter what approach you stick to, always remember that a bull run always ends with a bull trap. Still better, if you carve it into your brain lest you forget this trading wisdom at a critical moment

[ashmodeus]

Still you long your assets last three hours? how do you feel, I can't trust with bitcoin always on the top price suddenly could dump without bad information and happening today with bitcoin back lower price just few second, when reaching profit 100% or 50% sell your short and check situation how next step long or short.

oh come on,did u think no retrace there for every pump ? bear still there,even without any negative news,my opinion,for now price will aiming lower,which mean its can be more worse than now. think on the downside,it need to hold on range 10400/10600,below that level i am sure it will endangers the uptrend.

[bitgolden]

It wasn't bad information, it was basically correction and those corrections basically ruin a ton of longs at the same time as well which is not something you would want since it is just small correction but when you leverage too much your margin of error gets smaller as well, you can lose all of your money with just 100 bucks down if you are leveraged a lot but remember if it goes up 100 bucks you earn a ton more as well hence why there is leverage market in existence to begin with.

Finally all of these longs knew what they were getting into, they wanted to make more money than just buying btc and hodling it, they wanted to make 5x-10x-50x even 100x more than what they normally would make and took that chance to actually risk of losing all their money so they are aware.

[RealMalatesta]

Pretty normal if we are talking about bitcoin, Price just goes pump and dump. After experiencing such dump I don't sell any of my bitcoin lower than the price when I bought it because in my experience it is just going back to the price before it goes down, It takes time sometimes like on 2018 where bitcoin upset many traders because it takes too long to recover but now it is still on the process.

Well it depends on how you trade but it is what I see on bitcoin and the longs are the ones who gave me more profit in my experience in trading bitcoin.

That is is my issue with people, I do not get why they are worried if bitcoin would drop a lot, I mean that is a good thing right? I hope it drops, hell I bought bitcoin at around 6k and 6.5k and if it drops to 3k I would be happy about it and not sad. That is literally a prime place to buy bitcoin, you could sell every single thing you own, you could sell your house, your car, your computer, hell sell your clothes if you have to and buy at 3k. Okay okay, maybe not that much .

But, you understand what I mean. When price goes down people are like "is bitcoin dead!!" and a month later you look at it and it made 3x suddenly, why are they moving in such manner? In march 15 bitcoin bottomed at 3.6k for example, that is about x3.2 increase from that to today, as you can see it is amazing investment.

[Finxflo(FXF)]

Yesterday wiped out a lot of long positions. As a trader one really loves all this volatility, and it's all across the board. A good trader could have easily 2 or 3 X'd their money in the last couple of weeks.

[Finxflo(FXF)]

Pretty normal if we are talking about bitcoin, Price just goes pump and dump. After experiencing such dump I don't sell any of my bitcoin lower than the price when I bought it because in my experience it is just going back to the price before it goes down, It takes time sometimes like on 2018 where bitcoin upset many traders because it takes too long to recover but now it is still on the process.

Well it depends on how you trade but it is what I see on bitcoin and the longs are the ones who gave me more profit in my experience in trading bitcoin.

That is is my issue with people, I do not get why they are worried if bitcoin would drop a lot, I mean that is a good thing right? I hope it drops, hell I bought bitcoin at around 6k and 6.5k and if it drops to 3k I would be happy about it and not sad. That is literally a prime place to buy bitcoin, you could sell every single thing you own, you could sell your house, your car, your computer, hell sell your clothes if you have to and buy at 3k. Okay okay, maybe not that much .

But, you understand what I mean. When price goes down people are like "is bitcoin dead!!" and a month later you look at it and it made 3x suddenly, why are they moving in such manner? In march 15 bitcoin bottomed at 3.6k for example, that is about x3.2 increase from that to today, as you can see it is amazing investment.

Exactly, One of my favorite trading strategies is to have 10 coins or tokens with great utility and development,community etc.and when one pumps or even better when one pumps and another dumps, I sell the asset tht has rissen and bought the asset that fell. Because they will both be in my long term portolio, This week I have picked up a few coins that I basically picked up at 1/3 of their price.

[Finxflo(FXF)]

Still you long your assets last three hours? how do you feel, I can't trust with bitcoin always on the top price suddenly could dump without bad information and happening today with bitcoin back lower price just few second, when reaching profit 100% or 50% sell your short and check situation how next step long or short.

oh come on,did u think no retrace there for every pump ? bear still there,even without any negative news,my opinion,for now price will aiming lower,which mean its can be more worse than now. think on the downside,it need to hold on range 10400/10600,below that level i am sure it will endangers the uptrend.

Traders get greedy lol. There are things called stop losses and take profits lol.No reason to get burnt. It like if you have unprotected sex, You cant blame the girl, you should have always used protection.

[Kelvinid]

Yesterday wiped out a lot of long positions. As a trader one really loves all this volatility, and it's all across the board. A good trader could have easily 2 or 3 X'd their money in the last couple of weeks.

They are very lucky to have the right timing but for those who sell their bitcoin earlier, they might be in regrets.

But anyway, crypto life never gives assurance in regards to market profit, x2, x3 with their capital, that was really amazing. But people who can afford to hold Bitcoin longer the more chances to have.

The price trend keeps moving high slowly, some people seeing this a road to Bullrun but I'd never think it easily nor I bought that confidence because it is not really enough. I would like to wait more days and sees how the resistance level growing up, then that's the time I'll be in the bullish by then.

[Wind_FURY]

Yesterday wiped out a lot of long positions. As a trader one really loves all this volatility, and it's all across the board. A good trader could have easily 2 or 3 X'd their money in the last couple of weeks.

They are very lucky to have the right timing but for those who sell their bitcoin earlier, they might be in regrets.

But anyway, crypto life never gives assurance in regards to market profit, x2, x3 with their capital, that was really amazing. But people who can afford to hold Bitcoin longer the more chances to have.

The price trend keeps moving high slowly, some people seeing this a road to Bullrun but I'd never think it easily nor I bought that confidence because it is not really enough. I would like to wait more days and sees how the resistance level growing up, then that's the time I'll be in the bullish by then.

Be careful being happy with x2, x3 market profit, and risking some capital on the way. You might miss the real move to a 6-digit Bitcoin price. 90% of active traders lose to the 10% winners. That's a fact.

[imstillthebest]

Yesterday wiped out a lot of long positions. As a trader one really loves all this volatility, and it's all across the board. A good trader could have easily 2 or 3 X'd their money in the last couple of weeks.

They are very lucky to have the right timing but for those who sell their bitcoin earlier, they might be in regrets.

But anyway, crypto life never gives assurance in regards to market profit, x2, x3 with their capital, that was really amazing. But people who can afford to hold Bitcoin longer the more chances to have.

The price trend keeps moving high slowly, some people seeing this a road to Bullrun but I'd never think it easily nor I bought that confidence because it is not really enough. I would like to wait more days and sees how the resistance level growing up, then that's the time I'll be in the bullish by then.

Be careful being happy with x2, x3 market profit, and risking some capital on the way. You might miss the real move to a 6-digit Bitcoin price. 90% of active traders lose to the 10% winners. That's a fact.

this is simillar to gambling  when playing on low payout  . you can only get small return for such a risk but if you play on high payout you can always earn more  . i only dont understand why the op wants a correction now that we are on the right direction  . i want to see more highs and not lows  , and why he want to disrupt the oppurtunity for new entrants   .   thats not right , new investors do also contribute here and they are the reason why price rise   .they have the right to earn too

[Yamifoud]

But yet, it didn't give me faith to see the market being in a bullish at this time. I don't want to create FOMO but just like to warn people especially for newcomers to be wise in choosing coins to be invested because I'm afraid that this could give them losses as they can fall into the trap.

But of course, we ought to have the risk and taking part in it, and we know the consequence also. One thing we need to remember is that, the market is volatile and therefore, we can't expect that the market will keep at low longer nor it keep rising. 

[deisik]

But yet, it didn't give me faith to see the market being in a bullish at this time. I don't want to create FOMO but just like to warn people especially for newcomers to be wise in choosing coins to be invested because I'm afraid that this could give them losses as they can fall into the trap

With these coins it doesn't matter whether the market is bullish or bearish

Newcomers are set to fail just for the fact they are newcomers. Their only chance to reap profits with such coins is through luck alone. More generally, you can't actually ask them to be wise as the process which makes one wise is essentially the same process which turns one from a newcomer into a seasoned and experienced trader

[fullhdpixel]

This is good news for Bitcoin but this is not 100% accurate, bears still can takeover. And that percantage may manipulated by such an exchanges.
As what I remember before when we dump around below $5,000, the percentage of long is still high before but the price of Bitcoin continue to dump, so if you are do trading, don't totally really rely on this kind of platform.

The date provided by the exchanges is accurate and probably not manipulated but I wouldn’t place too much reliance on that as crypto market is highly volatile and the whales might enter anytime to interfere with all the data and predictions being made. The market can be highly manipulated so nothing can be said for sure.

As expected shorts started dominating after the price hits 12k$ and then one might expect the correction to bring down the price to $10k$ before the longs dominate again and we begin to see steady growth in the total market cap and trading volume.

[Wind_FURY]

Yesterday wiped out a lot of long positions. As a trader one really loves all this volatility, and it's all across the board. A good trader could have easily 2 or 3 X'd their money in the last couple of weeks.

They are very lucky to have the right timing but for those who sell their bitcoin earlier, they might be in regrets.

But anyway, crypto life never gives assurance in regards to market profit, x2, x3 with their capital, that was really amazing. But people who can afford to hold Bitcoin longer the more chances to have.

The price trend keeps moving high slowly, some people seeing this a road to Bullrun but I'd never think it easily nor I bought that confidence because it is not really enough. I would like to wait more days and sees how the resistance level growing up, then that's the time I'll be in the bullish by then.

Be careful being happy with x2, x3 market profit, and risking some capital on the way. You might miss the real move to a 6-digit Bitcoin price. 90% of active traders lose to the 10% winners. That's a fact.

this is simillar to gambling  when playing on low payout  . you can only get small return for such a risk but if you play on high payout you can always earn more  . i only dont understand why the op wants a correction now that we are on the right direction  . i want to see more highs and not lows  , and why he want to disrupt the oppurtunity for new entrants   .   thats not right , new investors do also contribute here and they are the reason why price rise   .they have the right to earn too

I believe in dice a high payout has more risk. In Bitcoin, many people believe that the lowest time preference, moon-payout is the highest risk, but it's actually the lowest risk because of Bitcoin's macro-economics. Many people won't accept it.