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July 27, 2020, 09:15:17 AM
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I have been reading about the differences between money and currencies, even I have not seen anyone referring bitcoin as money but only as currency. I read about the difference on many site. Check the quotes below:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money
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Money may take a physical form as in coins and notes, or may exist as a written or electronic account. It may have intrinsic value (commodity money), be legally exchangeable for something with intrinsic value (representative money), or only have nominal value (fiat money).


https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-currency-and-money
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Gold Silver explains that the most significant difference between money and currency is that currency does not have consistent value. Currency is used as a physical representation of value that changes over time and varies from one country to the next. According to the Gold Silver website, gold and silver are the only items that have served as money and represented fixed value throughout human history.

https://quickonomics.com/different-types-of-money/
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Commodity money is the simplest and, most likely, the oldest type of money. It builds on scarce natural resources that act as a medium of exchange, store of value, and unit of account. Commodity money is closely related to (and originates from) a barter system, where goods and services are directly exchanged for other goods and services. Commodity money facilitates this process because it acts as a generally accepted medium of exchange. The critical thing to note about commodity money is that its value is defined by the intrinsic value of the commodity itself. In other words, the commodity itself becomes money. Examples of commodity money include gold coins, beads, shells, spices, etc.

https://medium.com/@goldma/currency-vs-money-did-you-know-theres-a-difference-f344aa496867
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The one major difference between currency and money that many are not conscious of, is the store of value. Currency is not a store of value, in fact, it can even go to zero because of extreme circumstances. It is also volatile because it has no intrinsic value. Money, on the other hand, is a store of value. Gold (which is money) has always been a consistent store of value. Even when the world financial markets become unpredictable, investors turn to gold because it is less risky and more secure.

From all quoted links above, it is evident that bitcoin is actually money, I still have other links that proved this but did not included it because I want this topic to be easily readable.

Gold, silver and and the likes are money which has been existing and have intrinsic value. Like I have mentioned, money can not be seen, only currencies can be seen and the intrinsic value of gold is its value in the world that is influenced by its demands and its price.

What about bitcoin? I will like you opinion on this but as for me, bitcoin itself is completely money because it is also a safe haven like gold, currencies can be seen physically but what makes the currencies money is the value they possess, this makes me conclude that bitcoin is money, bitcoin have such value and a safe haven people turned during economy inflation.

Money are not subjected to governmental manipulations but currencies do, the price of bitcoin is not regulated by any central body or the governments it is regulated by people that buy and sell it in the world and this makes it to have value like gold and the likes by having the same value all over the world not from country to country. So, bitcoin is money and will be referred to as money during its races to recognition.

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July 27, 2020, 09:18:22 AM
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Imo fiat is a type of currency and currency is a type of money...

I think bitcoin fits somewhere between currency and money because a lot of currencies generally have the qualification of being divisible and bitcoin has that whereas realistically gold and silver don't.
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July 27, 2020, 09:34:30 AM
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Imo fiat is a type of currency and currency is a type of money...

I think bitcoin fits somewhere between currency and money because a lot of currencies generally have the qualification of being divisible and bitcoin has that whereas realistically gold and silver don't.
You are right, even gold can be referred to as currency, bitcoin is also currency, although bitcoin has intrinsic value but its price is still volatile and can be regarded as a currency, I am not disputing this fact. But I want people to realize that bitcoin is also money.

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July 27, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
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I have been reading about the differences between money and currencies, even I have not seen anyone referring bitcoin as money but only as currency. I read about the difference on many site. Check the quotes below:
You should go to the relevant board then Smiley
Perhaps this discussion will entertain you (read also the reply after that comment where I mention M1-M3).

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July 27, 2020, 10:59:06 AM
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https://medium.com/@goldma/currency-vs-money-did-you-know-theres-a-difference-f344aa496867
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The one major difference between currency and money that many are not conscious of, is the store of value. Currency is not a store of value, in fact, it can even go to zero because of extreme circumstances. It is also volatile because it has no intrinsic value. Money, on the other hand, is a store of value. Gold (which is money) has always been a consistent store of value. Even when the world financial markets become unpredictable, investors turn to gold because it is less risky and more secure.

If you will base it on articles that you've quoted, especially this one, you must believe that Bitcoin is not a money. It is a currency.
Just like what had been mentioned above, currency is not a store of value.
Bitcoin is not a store of value, it is not stable, therefore it could not be titled as money.

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What about bitcoin? I will like you opinion on this but as for me, bitcoin itself is completely money because it is also a safe haven like gold, currencies can be seen physically.

In fact, bitcoin isn't a safehaven, and it is more risky than gold and silver because it is more volatile. It's value varies largely on it's deman and supply.

Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency.... 'currency'.
So why did you think that it is not.


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July 27, 2020, 11:16:05 AM
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On July 22, Russia adopted a law banning cryptocurrencies. It is not allowed to accept payment in Bitcoin for goods and services, and the law prohibits advertising cryptocurrencies as a digital payment method. Based on this, I tend to think that Bitcoin does not quite fit the definition of money. For me, this is more investment of my money for a long time.

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July 27, 2020, 11:37:53 AM
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Based on this, I tend to think that Bitcoin does not quite fit the definition of money. For me, this is more investment of my money for a long time.

I think you can't draw that conclusion. Just because some countries banned it, doesn't mean it is not money. Not to mention other countries might allow bitcoin for payment. That's a really weak definition.

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July 27, 2020, 12:08:23 PM
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Some recognize bitcoin as a property.

English Court Recognises Bitcoin as Property
Different government might have different view on bitcoin as that's how they regulate it.

However, I believe for majority, bitcoin is a money or a digital currency... this is a long debate if we dig deeper,  but for typical investor, bitcoin is an online currency that is decentralized and that its value will rise depending on the demand.

If I hold 1 btc, whether it's considered as property or currency in my country, but in reality, I can call it myself  as money since anytime I can exchange it with fiat and spend it like like how people spend fiat.

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July 27, 2020, 01:23:29 PM
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If its accepted on some stores like the traditional moneh then we can considered it as form of money like what was US telling us about in this case before.

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-is-a-form-of-money-d-c-federal-court-rules-bloomberg

In my opinion currency or money it still can be equate as one. Some might not agree about bitcoin as money and just a speculative investment product but for otherd like most adopters they can agree that its a money/currency.

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July 27, 2020, 03:32:09 PM
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The Quora answer may not be very accurate. If it is, then here comes the big question: if currency doesn't have a consistent value, then which one is changing value: USD or BTC? Smiley Because if you take it the other way, 1 BTC will be equal to a constantly changing amount of USD and vice-versa.

In how many places can you buy stuff using gold coins alone? Bitcoin has plenty of them. It's used as a mean of exchange and as a payment method and that is enough imo for it to be considered money.
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July 27, 2020, 04:36:29 PM
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Currency, fiat, money, asset, liability, property. Who care about those terms and which one will be used for bitcoin for now and in the future? Do you think of a child was taught "This one is sugar, it is called as sugar because it is sweety". Another child in another planet example, was taught like that "It is salt, and it is called like that because it tastes sweety". Terms are created by lively creations, by humans on the Earth or by aliens on other planets.  Please don't take it seriously Grin

All I realize is bitcoin can build up my wealthier life.

A virtual currency, digital currency, stable currency, coin, people can name it with whatsoever name and term. But it will be bitcoin forever. Bitcoin is bitcoin, always. And about value one bitcoin is always one bitcoin. Fortunately, our lives can become wealthier if we hold our bitcoin for long enough (I could be wrong but it is my belief).
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July 27, 2020, 08:18:52 PM
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The Quora answer may not be very accurate. If it is, then here comes the big question: if currency doesn't have a consistent value, then which one is changing value: USD or BTC? Smiley Because if you take it the other way, 1 BTC will be equal to a constantly changing amount of USD and vice-versa.
Both USD and bitcoin has no consistent value and are both currencies, they also both money because they both have intrinsic value which makes people demand for both.

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July 28, 2020, 04:24:55 AM
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The Quora answer may not be very accurate. If it is, then here comes the big question: if currency doesn't have a consistent value, then which one is changing value: USD or BTC? Smiley Because if you take it the other way, 1 BTC will be equal to a constantly changing amount of USD and vice-versa.
Both USD and bitcoin has no consistent value and are both currencies, they also both money because they both have intrinsic value which makes people demand for both.
USD has same value all the time, 1 dollar =  1 dollar all the time but the real things is its purchasing power getting lesser and lesser due to printing more and more money so which is a flaw in the fiat money or currency system.Whereas bitcoin, 1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin but the price changes in terms of USD only due to lot of factors but 1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin.

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July 28, 2020, 05:15:00 AM
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For me bitcoin and any other cryptocurrency is more of a currency rather than a money with a sure store of value. Though we all know that bitcoin is the strongest so far, we are not 100% assured that its price will not drop 0. What if we come to the point that all btc are already mined and then people suddenly lose interest to it thus demand will fall? Or what if all country decide to ban it thus lose demand as well? While on the other hand, everyone are willing to accept that shiny shimmering rare metal wherever and whenever. It will not be called precious for nothing.

Nevertheless, I love bitcoin more. Its volatility drive me crazy Grin.
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July 28, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
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bitcoin and altcoin will be judged based on the viewpoints of  communities and governments. if in our community we know the answer as currency or as digital money. the perspective taken because bitcoin can be used as a payment for any transaction, which is the value of a currency. while according to the governments in some countries, the value of bitcoin as a commodity asset and not as currency. so, if we want to discuss about this, of course the answer will always be different and will become a discussion that does not find a solution. like a common joke question in my country "which came first between chicken and eggs?" These OP questions will have answers that will be phrased based on their perspectives.

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July 28, 2020, 03:42:43 PM
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Currency and money is pretty much the same thing. Money is just a more abstract concept, while currency is usually used to mean some concrete currency. For example we say "everyone needs money" and not "everyone needs currency". Bitcoin, like any other currency, can mean both. For example:

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- Bitcoin, US dollar, Euro

People who argue that money means gold and currency means fiat are just trying to bend the definitions of these terms, which is strange because we use these words on a daily basis.
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July 28, 2020, 06:48:52 PM
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Bitcoin is same as currency and money, so far as it has intrinsic value, exchangeable, convertible to fiat and vice versa,   why always used as currency is because it has a general name of "cryptocurrency" that comprises of all altcoin too. Summit describes to masses as digital currency, and going further that it cannot be touched as paper money, simply put, it's both money and currency.
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July 28, 2020, 06:52:43 PM
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For me, it is both currency and money. Some court on Washington D.C rules Bitcoin Is a Form of “Money” found on this blog and I totally agree. We have so many digital cryptocurrency wallet now, in my country we have local wallet which you can use to pay with your bills, etc. I am using crypto just like fiat, bitcoin is  really a form of money.
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Bitcoin may be a global currency which will be employed by anyone within the world beyond race language caste and other categories this is often a borderless currency there's no international transfer fee sending Bitcoin to someone sitting next to you or someone on another continent will cost an equivalent. Meanwhile local currencies are limited by borders Bitcoin transactions are irreversible If you send something to someone you'll only catch on back if they send it to you Digital transfers are often catastrophic with a local currency like open-end credit payments which may be an enormous expense for merchants.

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July 29, 2020, 08:54:23 AM
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Imo fiat is a type of currency and currency is a type of money...

I think bitcoin fits somewhere between currency and money because a lot of currencies generally have the qualification of being divisible and bitcoin has that whereas realistically gold and silver don't.
This is a little bit confusing for me. Is money not the same thing as currency again? Would you kindly explain this? On bitcoin, my opinion is that it is an asset and not physical money and that is why people buy and later resell for higher gains.

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