whether MorCrypto deserves a negative rating correction?

[examplens]

User MorCrypto contact me through PM and asking to remove negative feedback from his account and to oppose flag.

he was accused of several negative things, so now all are removed and solved.
Metamask wrongly flagged them and that has been corrected. https://github.com/MetaMask/eth-phishing-detect/pull/3896

but they had other faults as well. Promote Ponzi schemes and use fake team members on his website. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187040.msg52565012#msg52565012
now they have removed it all.


User Coolcryptovator started scam accusation topic against them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185673.0
and he changes his opinion, and give them forgiveness

I have marked this thread as "SOLVED", because Morcrypto removed all features related ponzi scheme and trying to run their exchange normally. Its seems they have got listed in CMC and few more listing sites. I have revised my feedback to neutral and removed support flag.. Ruin anyone reputation isn't our Aim, our aim is save peoples from scammers. Other DT members who have support and left negative feedbacks, they might look in this case again and reconsider the case. But really its depends on them. I just did what I think appropriate, doesn't mean other DT should follow me. They have their won opinion and it's their right.

I don't want to ruin anyone's business, but I'm also not sure how much someone can be trusted who's started as a Ponzi and fake team. what happened so they are honest now?
I think some users have already withdrawn his flag support, but flag is still active:

Support: examplens, witcher_sense, TalkStar, IconFirm, Bthd, EliseWatoson, Ludicolo

Next, They send me maybe a little weird PM with a request for revision on my feedback. yet I believe it was only mispronounced

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please we would appreciate if you can help us buy removing your negative comment on our project as it is sending the wrong impression about our project to people and it's causing us a lot of harm especially after we've spent a lot of funds building our Exchange,
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i would love to hear the opinion of other users, especially on flag supporters in this case.

[Pffrt]

As user coolcryptovator said that they have removed pomzi features abd others which they have been accused, I think they deserve the revise of the feedback. You should turn the negative to neutral and eventually after certain times, you should even remove the neutral feerback if things go well.

[Findingnemo]

that they have removed pomzi features abd others which they have been accused, I think they deserve the revise of the feedback.

They revised doesn't mean we can trust them for now, promoting Ponzi is highly untrusted among bitcointalk's DT community and most of the time the ratings won't be revised but if they want to then they can because ratings are individual opinions for the community members.

[examplens]

that they have removed pomzi features abd others which they have been accused, I think they deserve the revise of the feedback.

They revised doesn't mean we can trust them for now, promoting Ponzi is highly untrusted among bitcointalk's DT community and most of the time the ratings won't be revised but if they want to then they can because ratings are individual opinions for the community members.

Everyone deserves a second chance, it is not the subject of discussion. Because of that, I create this topic and I want to get more opinions from the community in MorCrypto case.
Question is can we trust this user and his business if we know about his "mistakes" or "attempted fraud"?

[marlboroza]

Flag supported, I don't trust these exposed scumbags trying to make impression that they did nothing wrong.

Question is can we trust this user and his business if we know about his "mistakes" or "attempted fraud"?

It's kind self explanatory.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Everyone deserves a second chance, it is not the subject of discussion.

I fully agree with that, but only after someone has demonstrably changed their ways--and that takes time.  That scam accusation was less than a year ago, and my gut instinct is telling me that this team started off dishonestly and if given an opportunity to exploit others for their own gain, they'd do it. 

I get that some people don't want to ruin someone's business, but remember: MorCrypto brought this on themselves with the Ponzi scheme.  I'm not sure about that fake team member accusation, but the Ponzi thing is enough to wait and see before revising feedback or un-supporting/opposing the flag.

[TalkStar]

Question is can we trust this user and his business if we know about his "mistakes" or "attempted fraud"?

After getting caught if anyone accept his/her mistake it doesn’t mean he/she will not gonna repeat it again. I don’t think it will be a nice step to take quicker decision in a situation like this. When it relates with community users safety i will not take minimum risks for sure.

It's kind self explanatory.

Yeap,,,Agree with you. I got the same PM from them.

[logfiles]

Wish it was something like maybe having a whitepaper with no reference links. Coming and presenting as a ponzi scheme is direct scam and crime here.

Our ICO is launching in a few hours, join us and lend MOR coins for 5% monthly ROI in BTC!

Interesting. How far with the Monthly ROI in BTC for the MOR lends?

[Little Mouse]

If you are a legit project, do not worry. You will eventually get rid of the feedbacks on your profile. I can not remember the project name (betnomi may be), they requested community to remove negative tag on their profile with enough proof and community removed the tag. So, if you are legit project, proof that you are legit and everyone will remove.

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people only misunderstood us because we were just starting at that time, So *( EVERYTHING LENDING HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM OUT PROJECT) since the initial concept of Lending was not working.

it is obvious that you have abandoned your initial "lending" idea, it is a positive move, and that’s just another thing where the forum helped. If you did not understand, I start this discussion to get some answers and is it enough to hear from you, "hey I've changed, I won't really do for it"

Also, We don't have any fake team members, and we never had any fake team members, @examplens can you please list the fake team members you are referring to because we are a bit confused about that accusation,
 

don't be confused, probably you forgotten this post? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187040.msg52565012#msg52565012
I'll quote it:

these are the team:



https://morcrypto.net/#team

they don't have linkedin and and your facebook profiles have nothing relevant that shows any past project they have done and had some success.

https://www.facebook.com/chimedatsnare/posts/10216058501202515 ( there's nothing relevant )



Is gospel singer, Song writer, Composer and Rapper

Source: https://twitter.com/OfficialSirVic



is singer

Source: https://fanlink.to/VeraChukwu_Closer?fbclid=IwAR3gK1fxuHp5PPgoyIremHvIa42U_HSqNwrS0aP6cruOtKnYlB8jUzgl0mI



I didn't see any experience he has in managing any exchange

[marlboroza]

WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN REMOVE YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT SINCE THERE IS NO PONZI IN OUR PROJECT.

Yeah, stop yelling. What's this:

but surprisingly some people interpreted it as Ponzi

"We removed our perfectly legit lending platform because someone on internet forum said it is ponzi."

maybe because we had no working product at that time which is understandable, so we decided to remove the Lending Payout from our project, a Ponzi system does not have any working product backing it to generate funds that's why it's called a Ponzi, but if there is a working system generating funds then it's not a Ponzi, so our project was never a Ponzi, people only misunderstood us because we were just starting at that time, So *( EVERYTHING LENDING HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM OUT PROJECT) since the initial concept of Lending was not working.

"We, at MorCrypto didn't have working product but we actually did and we removed it because our working product was not working"

[The Cryptovator]

As mentioned by OP, I already stated my opinion about them and revised my feedback, it doesn't mean I trust them. It depends on then either they would gain trust from the community or not. To be honest, removed Ponzi scheme from the website doesn't change the fact, but I change my mind because if they want to contribute to the crypto industry then it's better to give them a chance. I don't know what was the exact reason behind of removed Ponzi scheme. But since there isn't any other accusation so I am assuming they hadn't scammed yet.

When an accusation made on the public, then it fully depends on the community either they will change their mind or not. There are so many DT members and their opinions will never the same in the same case. I appreciate other DT members and non-DT member's opinions who are trying to save the community from the scammer, they aren't wrong as well.

[MorCrypto]

OUR MAIN VISION WAS TO BUILD AN EXCHANGE https://morcrypto-exchange.com/ WHICH WE HAVE SUCCEEDED and that's all that matters, no single investor's contribution was a waste, we developed our exchange as promised and we are now contributing to promoting crypto in Africa

even Matamask was humble enough to accept they were wrong and corrected there mistake, we wonder what is so difficult for you guys to accept that you misunderstood us and take simple correction, instead, you are here showing old screenshots that don't even exist anymore

[stompix]

"We removed our perfectly legit lending platform because someone on internet forum said it is ponzi."

Hihi, yes they removed something totally legit because of a forum post.
They've removed their perfect legit team photos because of a forum accusation.
They've also deleted a legit FB account because somebody said the picture was stolen.

It was a Ponzi like scheme and it doesn't matter what they did afterward, are we going to untag all former Ponzi promoters just because they are removing it from their websites?
The intent was there, and rather than showing actual remorse seems like they are trying to do anything to get rid of the tags, it's not that they really feel what they were doing was wrong.
Besides, their so-called team has a history of being involved in failed/scam projects so I'm pretty sure this "project" will end the same way pretty soon, no point of removing tags just to add them in a few months again.

LE: corrected the autocorrect 

[examplens]

First of all, you don't need to post a few posts in a row. Quote each post where you want to reply and put it all in one post.

@examplens Please what do you want us to do? or what can we do to satisfy your curiosity about our legitimacy?

we are really trying our best to resolve this issue in the best way possible, please how do we resolve this? is there anything els you are having issues with our project?

we have invested a lot of funds on our project to build our exchange to this stage to enable us contribute to the crypto industry, what we need now encouragement

For now, flag against you will stay supported by me. After this thread, you get a few flag supporters more. obviously others don't like your explanation either, we cannot ignore your initial project idea.
It's crazy, now you asking us to forget some your "words", how can be sure that you will not deny your today's words because of something new in your plan?

what to do next?
First, remove all duplicate ANN threads which you open to present your exchange. Keep only one, and keep it updated. Inform us there at what stage of development are you. If we get to know each other better it will surely affect your feedback rating.
now it just seems to me that you want clean rating because some of the services don't want to list your exchange because of negative warning on this forum.

[stompix]

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Few months? Did you see that our is registered for the next 5 years?
https://morcrypto-exchange.com/ please check it on who.is

Learn how to use quotes and multiquotes, I'm not wasting my time to repair your broken quotes and stop posting one post for every reply.

Now back to your "proof".
So, you've spent 40$ on 4 more years, with a hefty discount that probably was way less, should we trust you because of that?
Do you know a domain that was paid 5 years in advance also? It's bitconnect, are they also trustable?  

Grabameal.world is still registered, does it change the fact is as a scam? Maybe your friend Kenneth Mbeh can enlighten us on this.
Onasander.com was registered for two years, does it change the fact that it went bust well before?
Sovranocoin.com is still online but the project id dead and the roadmap looks like a fairytale.

Everything that your "team" touched turned yo a scam or a failure, you've started with a Ponzi scheme, a fake team and an ann bumping service, how the hell can somebody trust you?

[MorCrypto]

Feel free to post your opinions then, there is nothing we more we can do, we believe everyone has eyes and they can see the truth about our Legitmecy, After all we are still the biggest Project from Nigeria/Africa

[marlboroza]

WE ARE BIGGER THAN THIS NOW, SO YOU CAN CHOOSE TO FOCUS ON OUR PAST OR LOOK FARWARD, THE FACT REMAINS THAT MORCRYPTO HAS GROWN BEYOND THIS LEVEL A LONG TIME AGO.

But sir, you said:

our project was never a Ponzi

So it was a ponzi. I just have to archive this topic http://archive.is/cuSPJ.

Feel free to post your opinions then, there is nothing we more we can do, we believe everyone has eyes and they can see the truth about our Legitmecy, After all we are still the biggest Project from Nigeria/Africa

Ok, Mr. Legitmecy, elaborate this:



Is Binance aware that biggest Nigerian project is using their ToS (MorCrypto's ToS: archived http://archive.is/ImpP9)?
I am going to add negative to this profile as well.

[TalkStar]

Few months? Did you see that our is registered for the next 5 years? https://morcrypto-exchange.com/ please check it on who.is

Registering a domain for next 5 years doesn't mean that you are not going to repeat your previous activities again. I think you guys should learn this forum's rules first before continuing further debate here. I am seeing from my end that you are continiously giving mulitple replies at a time where you don't know how to add multiple quotes in a single reply.

You can't force anyone to change their mind about you. Maybe negative trust is nothing but shiny numbers in your eyes but for this community users its the sign which keeps them from brainless scammers who haven't got minimum ability to make something by their own.    

Our project is still under development, and some things are temporary and are yet to be updated, you can keep looking for errors while we keep moving forward, Thanks

Another false statement after getting caught with stolen contents. Thanks @marlboroza for investing your time to reveal their real face again. 

[examplens]

Please do not misunderstand our response to this tread, we only responded to this tread because it was brought to our notice and we saw some questions that needed to be answered by us not here for a fight as we do not encourage creating enmity with people, but if our response also offends your team then we can stop responding. No Offends

you don't have to apologize. You need to give us your response to this thread. when we hear your opinion we get a clearer picture of your business. unfortunately, the deeper we go into your project things going to be worst for you.

I don't like what marlboroza find. You plagiarized TOS from Binance in the most obvious way, says that you are still in the development phase not a good explanation, especially when you saying that you are "biggest Project from Nigeria/Africa". I'm afraid the way the others are.

if you want this all to go in a positive direction for you, you have to start working honestly and seriously.