[ANN][SAU] SatoriGold, The Virtual Gold Mining Coin | No Premine

[p3ngu1n]

I think need change ticker(like SXAU etc)
same ticker can cause various problems later

[satori1]

Re: exchanges

If you see the coin listing elsewhere - on miningpoolstats, for example - you have to be aware that they might list the exchanges wrong.

My mistake was that I haven't double-checked names and everything, and was too lazy to create a wallet locally. This led to a night of mining and throwing the results away to an incompatible address.

TLDR: pay attention, this is XAU (SatoriGold), not XAU (Goldneum). It is NOT listed on Nanu as of yet. Do NOT try mine to a goldneum 0xsomething wallet.

Let my mistake be a lesson for others =)

You are absolutely right and i am sorry you lost your SatoriCoins, the issue is that https://miningpoolstats.stream/satoricoin added nanu exchange in their description, we already sent an email for them to make the change.

I hope they rectify the error asap!!

[satori1]

I think need change ticker(like SXAU etc)
same ticker can cause various problems later

At this stage there is still time to change the Ticker, will look into it right now and announce change in the next few hours!!

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

I think need change ticker(like SXAU etc)
same ticker can cause various problems later

There is already exist some Ethereum-based token, with ticker SXAU, and this have just 256 holders.
Like a sXAG, this is a metal associated tokens of Synthetix System gateway.

Maybe, for SatoriGold, can be selected the ticker SAU (like Satori Aurum)? Or something like - MSG (Mineable SatoriGold)?

There is used three chars, for this two variants of tickers,
and no one asset, or coin, or token, I do not see on CoinmarketCap, with this tickers.

But be careful! This is a very important action and this is a historical moment,
because we all, can select this for long, for a very-very long-term, up to 50 years, or even much more!
So, this ticker should be easy to pronounce, simple, recognizable and memorable.

What about KGG (KiloGrams Gold), or GKG (Gold KiloGrams), KGSG (Kilograms of SatoriGold) - all this tickers are free.
Maybe someone has better and prettier tickers?

[satori1]

I think need change ticker(like SXAU etc)
same ticker can cause various problems later

There is already exist some Ethereum-based token, with ticker SXAU, and this have just 256 holders.
Like a sXAG, this is a metal associated tokens of Synthetix System gateway.

Maybe, for SatoriGold, can be selected the ticker SAU (like Satori Aurum)? Or something like - MSG (Mineable SatoriGold)?

There is used three chars, for this two variants of tickers,
and no one asset, or coin, or token, I do not see on CoinmarketCap, with this tickers.

But be careful! This is a very important action and this is a historical moment,
because we all, can select this for long, for a very-very long-term, up to 50 years, or even much more!
So, this ticker should be easy to pronounce, simple, recognizable and memorable.

What about KGG (KiloGrams Gold), or GKG (Gold KiloGrams), KGSG (Kilograms of SatoriGold) - all this tickers are free.
Maybe someone has better and prettier tickers?

Yes i failed to check on that one!!!   What about "STIX"

[larzul]

You are absolutely right and i am sorry you lost your SatoriCoins, the issue is that https://miningpoolstats.stream/satoricoin added nanu exchange in their description, we already sent an email for them to make the change.

I hope they rectify the error asap!!

No worries, no harm done, they weren't paid due to an incompatible address so I was able to ask the pool operator for help.
Thanks for the concern though!

One other place that is mentioning nanu is pool-pay.com, so maybe you want to talk to them as well.

[larzul]

re:ticker

To be honest, XAU sounds perfectly fine to me, as long as eliminate the confusion between this and 2015-or-something version (you can find an announcement thread here on bitcointalk) which is quite dead at the moment.

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

Yes i failed to check on that one!!!   What about "STIX"

STIX, seems, like free. It is easy to pronounce, but the meaning is ambiguous.
Maybe STIX means a "SaTori Internet/Innovation/Information XAU"?

What about just SAG (SAtori Gold)? This ticker is free, and have 3 chars, like BTC.
Also, SAG, this is a alive abbreviature: https://www.abbreviations.com/SAG
so many group of peoples can know about SAG, and wants this SAG, hehheh.

[p3ngu1n]

I like 3 chars ticker.
Because simpler, they are easy to understand and preferred by many people.

ticker example
SAU(Satori+XAU)
SAC(SAtori Coin)
STR(SaToRi)
SCG(SatoriCoinGold)
SAG(SAtoriGold)
SAX(SAtoriXau)
SCX(SatoriCoinXau)

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

SAC(SAtori Coin)
SAX(SAtoriXau)

Owwwh, it sounds very ambiguous.  

[satori1]

SAC(SAtori Coin)
SAX(SAtoriXau)

Owwwh, it sounds very ambiguous.  

I like 3 chars ticker.
Because simpler, they are easy to understand and preferred by many people.

ticker example
SAU(Satori+XAU)
SAC(SAtori Coin)
STR(SaToRi)
SCG(SatoriCoinGold)
SAG(SAtoriGold)
SAX(SAtoriXau)
SCX(SatoriCoinXau)

Yes many good options to be honest, i Like SAX and SCX!!!

[satori1]

Ok i got quite a lot of Feedback and most of you prefer for "SAU"

[satori1]

You are absolutely right and i am sorry you lost your SatoriCoins, the issue is that https://miningpoolstats.stream/satoricoin added nanu exchange in their description, we already sent an email for them to make the change.

I hope they rectify the error asap!!

No worries, no harm done, they weren't paid due to an incompatible address so I was able to ask the pool operator for help.
Thanks for the concern though!

One other place that is mentioning nanu is pool-pay.com, so maybe you want to talk to them as well.

Absolutely, pool-pay are very responsive and hope to have everything resolved quickly!! Thanks for letting me know!

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

I think, right now, we can write for admins of all this exchanges: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges
to add SatoriCoin (SAU), there, without buying any listings (yea, usually, they just ask BTC or USD for listings),
They can add this, just because SAU - HAVE NO PREMINE, and this have a very-very FAIR LAUNCH.
Also, maybe, there is possible to add SatoriCoin, as the ONE OF MAIN TICKERS,
like BTC/LTC/DOGE/SAU, on https://unnamed.exchange or https://yobit.net ,
and another exchanges, where many altcoins can be traded for MAIN-tickers.
This will have the more sense for all miners and traders, instead of try to do mining BTC/LTC/DOGE , or buy that overpriced and instamined WAVES.

In this case, SAU can be like XMR (Over 80% was been already mined),
on the all altcoins market, and this will be still mineable, and usable, within many-many years,
just because more then 51% of SatoriAurum (SAU), still not been pre-mined!!

Right now, all we can see here, something like this:

Height: 4,479
Transactions: 6,962
Reward: 58.112 xau
Supply: 260,422.73 xau
Emission: 0.1067 %

If altcoins market will growing and expanded, then, this SAU will be dissipated (including the long-term losses of seeds, too...),
and in the future, after long-time of real trading, 1 SAU can really have the value as 1kg gold.
Else, this will be just an another illiquid and not-usable coin,
which can be traded only for BTC, on one scam-exchange, and by few sats for each, without any trading volumes, and before delisting of this,
when market will not expanded.

But I know that a strong community is able to strengthen and raise this coin to the level of a worthy asset,
and maybe, even up to global asset, and strengthen the market positions of this!

Moreover, maybe, developers can do something, like a marketplace, or/and like an open-source https://localbitcoins.com/
to do decentralized buy/sell/exchange SAU, there, for fiat-currencies, or goods by using barter-exchange!!

Maybe, there is possible to use garant, to prevent some scam-actions, from anonymous users,
or maybe no need any garant, and the safely transfers (with chargebacks, if deal was been cancelled),
can possible by using multisignatures, which are already supporting by TurtleCoin-network.

[satori1]

I think, right now, we can write for admins of all this exchanges: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges
to add SatoriCoin (SAU), there, without buying any listings (yea, usually, they just ask BTC or USD for listings),
They can add this, just because SAU - HAVE NO PREMINE, and this have a very-very FAIR LAUNCH.
Also, maybe, there is possible to add SatoriCoin, as the ONE OF MAIN TICKERS,
like BTC/LTC/DOGE/SAU, on https://unnamed.exchange or https://yobit.net ,
and another exchanges, where many altcoins can be traded for MAIN-tickers.
This will have the more sense for all miners and traders, instead of try to do mining BTC/LTC/DOGE , or buy that overpriced and instamined WAVES.

In this case, SAU can be like XMR (Over 80% was been already mined),
on the all altcoins market, and this will be still mineable, and usable, within many-many years,
just because more then 51% of SatoriAurum (SAU), still not been pre-mined!!

Right now, all we can see here, something like this:

Height: 4,479
Transactions: 6,962
Reward: 58.112 xau
Supply: 260,422.73 xau
Emission: 0.1067 %

People take interest in a project the moment exchanges list the coin and help promote that coin,

If altcoins market will growing and expanded, then, this SAU will be dissipated (including the long-term losses of seeds, too...),
and in the future, after long-time of real trading, 1 SAU can really have the value as 1kg gold.
Else, this will be just an another illiquid and not-usable coin,
which can be traded only for BTC, on one scam-exchange, and by few sats for each, without any trading volumes, and before delisting of this,
when market will not expanded.

But I know that a strong community is able to strengthen and raise this coin to the level of a worthy asset,
and maybe, even up to global asset, and strengthen the market positions of this!

Moreover, maybe, developers can do something, like a marketplace, or/and like an open-source https://localbitcoins.com/
to do decentralized buy/sell/exchange SAU, there, for fiat-currencies, or goods by using barter-exchange!!

Maybe, there is possible to use garant, to prevent some scam-actions, from anonymous users,
or maybe no need any garant, and the safely transfers (with chargebacks, if deal was been cancelled),
can possible by using multisignatures, which are already supporting by TurtleCoin-network.

I am right there with you, i hope more people will join the SatoriGold project, the main issue is that miners want and need instant return on mining... a few years back this was way different, users would join for the pleasure of mining and to participate in the community, i really hope we can attract more users to support our Project and maybe other developers who could help to improve this project as well, as my time is also limited when it comes to support any issues in the network.

In what concerns Exchanges this is always a very difficult situation, most exchanges are asking for payment to list a coin, I will not be in position to pay a single cent since the project has been created without pre-mine nor masternodes, its a project for miners and a project that gives users the possibility to mine for coins. I hope if any exchange reads this post that we can get a little push so that this project can survive and go forward.


In regards to the Website i am still working on it and it should be ready by Sunday.


Please join us on discord and help us in growing the SatoriGold community.

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

Hello.
What means "optimize" option, in the "./satwallet" ?
There is writted the following description: "Optimize your wallet to send large amounts".
As I understand, this just collect all unspent outputs with small amounts,
and concentrate this, into one large output, to run "send_all"-command, from this one output, right?

So, I just did try to "optimize" my kilogramms of SatoriGold, on the address of my wallet,
by using the option: "advanced" -> "optimize".
But I saw the following error: "Failed to send fusion transaction: Mixin count too big"

Then, I just sent all amount from my address to my address again, by using "send_all"-command,
and after 9 transfers, and after spent just 0.000090000 XAU,
this seems, like sucessfully optimized, and ready to "send_all" amount,
but I still have 9 unspend outputs, not one,
and maybe, I need to run the second round of "send_all",
or run the "optimize"-command, but later,
because now I have a some locked (still unconfirmed SatoriGolds), and wait the confirmations for this.
Sometimes, need to wait 25-minutes, or hour for one block, so it takes some time, but no problem.

UPD: After all confirmations, I see my balance by "balance"-command.
I did try to run "optimize", but I got again an error: "Failed to send fusion transaction: Mixin count too big".
Then, I did try to "send_all" to my address with MixIn = 0, and this action returned just one transaction.
Now, this seems, like ok, but...

Can you test this optimization, in your free time, just for fun, and fix that "MixIn-count"-error?
Maybe, there will be just enough to set MixIn = 0, or just fix something else.

P.S.: Also, maybe, need to rename the ticker in this thread, because this is quoted every time, with new post, as XAU.
SatoriCoin, maybe need to rename too, because some company, there is already exists in Japan: http://satoricoin.jp/
I think, for SAU, will be better the name SatoriAurum, which is corresponding with this ticker, and this is a free name.
Look at their, nice production, on satoricoin.jp ! This seems like a chips for casino.
Maybe, we can make something, like this, but for SAU, in future, hehheh.
Or just do the trading by using the paperwallets, or scratch-cards.

I just writted in the chat of https://yobit.net about SatoriCoin, but I do not think they can add SAU, because listing there is costs ~3 BTC,
and I do not see no one coin there, with POW-algo "cryptonight-turtle (cn-pico)".
So, if some miners want to get some another crypto, ASAP, they can just do mining this on http://zergpool.com/ ,
where is available autoswitching, multialgo, and multicoin mining.
All coins, tradable coins, can be exchanged, and after auto-exchange, there is possible to get a specified coin,
just by do mining the another coins, with higher mining-profitability.

Moreover, maybe, zergpool.com can add SatoriCoin (SAU), without any problems with compatibility,
just because I see some coins there, with another "cryptonignt"-based algorithms.

[p3ngu1n]

Need change announcement page

[haharadzha777]

i give you an idea - dex seems like localbitcoins.net but exchange in gold?

[satori1]

i give you an idea - dex seems like localbitcoins.net but exchange in gold?

Hi, and thanks for the input!! Unfortunately we already settled on SAU (Satori Xaurum).

Please join us on discord!!

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

i give you an idea - dex seems like localbitcoins.net but exchange in gold?

Hi, and thanks for the input!! Unfortunately we already settled on SAU (Satori Xaurum).

Please join us on discord!!

Maybe, he wanted to say the following thing: in the future, you can make something, like https://localbitcoins.net,
but as an open-source DEX (Decentralized Exchange), where SatoriAUrum (SAU),
can be the main crypto-currency, instead of BTC, and which anyone can raise themself, on localhost,
and after make the port-forwarding, host this anywhere.
For example, on custom domain-name, by using DDNS-services, or on ".onion"-domain, in TOR Network,
after adding just two strings in "torrc" file, to configure the "HiddenServices".
This exchange, can be really decentralized.

But... As I said earlier, I think, to make the safely exchanges, without any scam-actions between users,
SAU, as protocol, must to support the 2-of-3 multisignatures escrow-transactions with garant,
to be able to make chargebacks, if exchange deal was been cancelled, but coins already sent.

Anyway, all this is a long-term ideas.
This can be realized just for fun, by entuziasts from SatoriCoin decentralized-community of the programmers and coders.
And noone are in no hurry, and we do not call someone for investing something to develop this ASAP.