It's F'n happening ----- Polk VS. Negreanu HUNL Grudge Match

[arallmuus]

It seems both of you guys totally missed the next session. They both have played another 2 hour online session and Dneg is currently losing around 275k. He was up 117k from the live session but taking a huge beat on the online session.

You guys can watch it Here or Here

thanks, yeah i'm a couple days behind and wanted to make it a point to watch the live session. with these announcers and no hole cards, i'm more just interested in the highlight reel and the results of the online sessions.

Yes no hole cards shown at all. From what I've seen in their last online session is when one of the stack gets big enough after few nice play ( In this case Doug ), its getting easier for him to harass Dneg starting from the flop by raising high most of the time preventing Dneg from getting another cards. I thought there will be something like max stack in this game

From those livestream, I gotta admit that Doug is a really good player in heads up online but not that good in live game. This could turn really ugly for Dneg, he probably will lose over 1 million if he keeps on doing that river bluff by shoving in. They probably will play on Monday/Tuesday, I'll edit this post and put in the link so you guys can watch this as well


Edit : Another online session in around 100 minutes

Watch it Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 3

[tokeweed]

I haven't been watching this more closely than I should...  I hear Doug Polk is up 7 buyins in 1000 hands or so.  That's pretty normal in HU matches and there's still a long way to go.

I also heard that at around the 12500th hand, the losing player has the option to request to double up the stakes.  Gamboool.  Lol.

[arallmuus]

I haven't been watching this more closely than I should...  I hear Doug Polk is up 7 buyins in 1000 hands or so.  That's pretty normal in HU matches and there's still a long way to go.

Yes, around 268k after 1006 hands. They are commited to play for atleast 2 hours a day and 4 days a week minimum. Thats not normal if you watch the entire game, Doug is really trashing Dneg around. Basically they played 806 hands online and Dneg lose 268k already ( actually around 370k if you count the 110k profit that Dneg got from the live session )

I also heard that at around the 12500th hand, the losing player has the option to request to double up the stakes.  Gamboool.  Lol.

Yes


The next session is already live in youtube, Click Here Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 4

It has been running for 30 minutes and Doug is currently +45k this session

[Steamtyme]

I also heard that at around the 12500th hand, the losing player has the option to request to double up the stakes.  Gamboool.  Lol.

Yeah that or quit.

I've tried to watch a bit of the streams without the hole cards and it's just to dull. I have caught some highlight reals and man there were some rough coolers for Dnegs. I'm hoping in a week or so someone will put together a real solid reel of the big spots for both of them.

[tokeweed]

^ I don't think Dnegs would quit.  He's got people backing him.  If he's down by a manageable clip by the 12500th hand, I feel like stakes are going up...  Which should be fun for the fans. 

[arallmuus]

I've tried to watch a bit of the streams without the hole cards and it's just to dull.

Its totally weird yeah

^ I don't think Dnegs would quit.  He's got people backing him.  If he's down by a manageable clip by the 12500th hand, I feel like stakes are going up...  Which should be fun for the fans.  

He is probably sponsored by ggpoker. Aside from Doug that does livestream from his personal youtube channel, ggpoker is the other one that feature this match. The ggpoker livestream include Dneg's postmatch live interview so yeah I dont see Dneg doing this unless he is paid big time by ggpoker. Imagine having to do postmatch interview after 2 hours of playing session and you lose over 100k from the game


Some good news for yall, Dneg's fanboy  . Dneg was +90k in the 4th round. Dneg was leading with +180k but he gets too confident and tried to bluff few times by shoving. Doug does some good hero calls and managed to close the gap

[figmentofmyass]

Some good news for yall, Dneg's fanboy  . Dneg was +90k in the 4th round. Dneg was leading with +180k but he gets too confident and tried to bluff few times by shoving. Doug does some good hero calls and managed to close the gap

......and now DN is in the lead, up $26k after the 5th session. keeping it close!

and that's with DN running way below expected value in all-in situations too: https://twitter.com/Moonlightmaste1/status/1327979277682434050

still not too much movement in the odds, but he is now below 6 on pokershares: https://www.pokershares.com/market/poker/0ecafede-85cc-48fc-b12c-81698b314efc

i still want that 5:1 bet if someone wants some action on this.

[tokeweed]

I've tried to watch a bit of the streams without the hole cards and it's just to dull.

Its totally weird yeah

^ I don't think Dnegs would quit.  He's got people backing him.  If he's down by a manageable clip by the 12500th hand, I feel like stakes are going up...  Which should be fun for the fans.  

He is probably sponsored by ggpoker. Aside from Doug that does livestream from his personal youtube channel, ggpoker is the other one that feature this match. The ggpoker livestream include Dneg's postmatch live interview so yeah I dont see Dneg doing this unless he is paid big time by ggpoker. Imagine having to do postmatch interview after 2 hours of playing session and you lose over 100k from the game


Some good news for yall, Dneg's fanboy  . Dneg was +90k in the 4th round. Dneg was leading with +180k but he gets too confident and tried to bluff few times by shoving. Doug does some good hero calls and managed to close the gap

He's sponsored by GGPoker but I don't think they have any action on him for this challenge.  But I'm pretty sure guys like Helmuth, Matusow and even Ivey could be backing him.

I think Joey Ingram is gonna start streaming this week with commentary.  Should be good. 

[Steamtyme]

I do like catching the highlights of who's in the lead where. I think I caught the 4th session, I watched Brad Owen and Andrew Neeme, sort of not commentate on it lol. They just sat around drinking and shooting the shit with it on in the background. The biggest pots I noticed were spots where Doug had 2 pair or something and Daniel rivered his straight, got all the money twice I think.

I've noticed a few more people reviewing the gameplay so I might try out a few of those for fun.

Glad it's not a steady blowout, keeps it interesting from a session to session point of view.

I think Joey Ingram is gonna start streaming this week with commentary.  Should be good. 

That'll be good. Weird time for him to have taken a break but it sounds like he needed to sort out his life a bit and find some balance. Looking forward to his energy, and admitted ignorance to the finer points of HUNL hold'em. I watched him do his commentary on the Sunday Million an amateur won earlier this year and he was a blast.

[arallmuus]

I do like catching the highlights of who's in the lead where. I think I caught the 4th session, I watched Brad Owen and Andrew Neeme, sort of not commentate on it lol. They just sat around drinking and shooting the shit with it on in the background.

Basically this HU match is a gold mine for those poker streamers/ youtubers so many of them would try to stream it. They can say anything about it and no one would really care because the hole card is not shown and no one know what exactly is going on unless it goes to hands showdown

Click Here Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 4

Ended with Dneg +$147k this session


Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 5

This ended with Dneg hitting positive overall +20k


Here is the next scheduled game

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 6

These all are streamed by ggpoker youtube channel. Doug Polk also stream this on his personal youtube channel if you guys prefer but personally I like Kevin Martin so I always stick with ggpoker's stream

[Steamtyme]

AAaaaaand we've hit the first issue.

I'm kinda confused as to how this is an issue but I guess team Daniel has an issue with Doug looking back at the client hand history as part of his off session study to count things like C-bets, folds to C-bets and BTN play.

A bit annoying as this was getting interesting checking in to see how things change from session to session. I've only read tweets from Doug and Bill Perkins, so I don't know to much else. Hoping this gets sorted out sooner rather than latter.

Am I missing something here?

[arallmuus]

A bit annoying as this was getting interesting checking in to see how things change from session to session. I've only read tweets from Doug and Bill Perkins, so I don't know to much else. Hoping this gets sorted out sooner rather than latter.

Am I missing something here?

From the latest tweet, it seems it all gets sorted out and it was some kind of misunderstanding. It seems some people are just trying to hype this HU match by firing off some tweets like that as its getting really dull. They played for 4 hours on Round 6 but there was not much action yesterday. People are expecting bloodbath, either Dneg or Doug gets crushed but none really expect an pretty much even game until 2700+ hands

To be honest I dont see this HU match gets cancelled after this kind of silly things. Alot of people are benefitting from this HU match, lots of stream and commentary video about this.

[Steamtyme]

That's actually Doug and his joking/trolly nature, as far as I can tell. It was just all good that Bill had stated Doug was using solvers, but corrected himself.

From the sounds of it they are still going to their judge/arbitrator who someone said might be Phil Galfond, I don't know this for sure but might be why perkins tagged him.

[figmentofmyass]

That's actually Doug and his joking/trolly nature, as far as I can tell. It was just all good that Bill had stated Doug was using solvers, but corrected himself.

From the sounds of it they are still going to their judge/arbitrator who someone said might be Phil Galfond, I don't know this for sure but might be why perkins tagged him.

what a bunch of drama over nothing. it's water under the bridge now, from the look of it:



onto the next session then.

People are expecting bloodbath, either Dneg or Doug gets crushed but none really expect an pretty much even game until 2700+ hands

oddly enough, DN's odds keep getting longer---up to 6.35 now on pokershares.

[arallmuus]

what a bunch of drama over nothing. it's water under the bridge now, from the look of it:

Well some people obviously love to hype this HU match by tweeting some random drama, Im quite sure that there will be alot more incoming to hype this up

onto the next session then.

Here you go , Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 7

People are expecting bloodbath, either Dneg or Doug gets crushed but none really expect an pretty much even game until 2700+ hands

oddly enough, DN's odds keep getting longer---up to 6.35 now on pokershares.

Well according to Doug's tweet, he is up $67k after 2374 hands so that could be one the reason why the odds for Dneg is getting higher. Not to mention that Doug was clearly better than Dneg in this game but somehow Dneg is keeping up with Doug. The reason for Dneg's comeback was because he got lucky few times that Doug were super aggresive by shoving but Dneg won by having better hands . Most of the time Dneg would fold when Doug shove, its too bad that we wont know if Doug was bluffing or not

[figmentofmyass]

doug pulled away a little bit in the last session, up ~$150k now. still close enough that daniel could easily turn it around, but his odds keep getting longer---edging towards 7:1 now.

this sounds fun:
https://twitter.com/TexDolly/status/1330971910243459072
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1331282568285618179

with any luck, we'll see a heads up challenge in a couple months between doyle brunson and doug polk. live sounds much better than this online/no hole card format.

[arallmuus]

doug pulled away a little bit in the last session, up ~$150k now. still close enough that daniel could easily turn it around, but his odds keep getting longer---edging towards 7:1 now.

He could easily turn this around. Back then we was down over a quarter million, everyone thought that it was over but he made a solid comeback. Doug was up around $117k on 10th round and it was a 4+ hours session so I dont think that its bad because this is literally twice as much as they usually play for.

So here it is incase you guys want to watch how the game goes. Daniel tweeted that round 11 and 12 might be happening this week as well . Around 7800 hands left to go before we reach 12,500.

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 8

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 9

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 10

[tokeweed]

^  It's gonna be interesting...  I think a few more buyins lost, Dnegs will request for a double up in stakes.  And you gotta wonder how well Doug plays when he's taken out of his comfort zone.

[arallmuus]

^  It's gonna be interesting...  I think a few more buyins lost, Dnegs will request for a double up in stakes.  And you gotta wonder how well Doug plays when he's taken out of his comfort zone.

I dont think that either of them can request this. According to the rules, the loser after 12,500 hands would be able to request another 12,500 hands with the same stakes . If either of them lose, Im pretty sure this will continue until 25,000 hands because neither would want to accept the fact that they got crushed.

DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 11

Doug crushed DNeg on round 11. Doug was getting $120k on Round 11 and total of over $264k overall for 5067 hands. Over a quarter million loss for DNeg and they will play round 12 this saturday.

[Steamtyme]

I dont think that either of them can request this. According to the rules, the loser after 12,500 hands would be able to request another 12,500 hands with the same stakes . If either of them lose, Im pretty sure this will continue until 25,000 hands because neither would want to accept the fact that they got crushed.

The rules also allow for the losing player after 12,500 to double the stakes. It'll be interesting, so long as one of them has a decent lead I imagine it's a no-brainer to up the stakes if the losing player decides to carry on.

I'm tempted to actually go back and watch the last session. Simply from the remarks it sounds like it was a more focused gameplay session than previously. I find it hard to believe but I think Doug tweeted there wasn't a single All-in, which I find crazy given the totals at the end.

doug pulled away a little bit in the last session, up ~$150k now. still close enough that daniel could easily turn it around, but his odds keep getting longer---edging towards 7:1 now.

this sounds fun:
https://twitter.com/TexDolly/status/1330971910243459072
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1331282568285618179

with any luck, we'll see a heads up challenge in a couple months between doyle brunson and doug polk. live sounds much better than this online/no hole card format.

This would be super fun to watch. It's probably more along the lines of a format people expected Dnegs to pick. I've already learned about a new game format just from the tweet.

I'll admit I pretty much just check Dougs tweets to see how the session faired cash wise. You really need good banter from whoever is hosting to be able to sit back and watch an entire session. Without showdown even 3-bet pots, with c-bets on the flop and turn, wind up being dull.