It's F'n happening ----- Polk VS. Negreanu HUNL Grudge Match

[Mauser]

^  It's gonna be interesting...  I think a few more buyins lost, Dnegs will request for a double up in stakes.  And you gotta wonder how well Doug plays when he's taken out of his comfort zone.

I dont think that either of them can request this. According to the rules, the loser after 12,500 hands would be able to request another 12,500 hands with the same stakes . If either of them lose, Im pretty sure this will continue until 25,000 hands because neither would want to accept the fact that they got crushed.

DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 11

Doug crushed DNeg on round 11. Doug was getting $120k on Round 11 and total of over $264k overall for 5067 hands. Over a quarter million loss for DNeg and they will play round 12 this saturday.

The odds are unfortunately against DNegs. He is just from another era of poker. His specialty is playing life poker with camera present, not multi tables fast path online poker. If the hole challenge was online, DNegs would be crushing him. It's still an awesome challenge and attracts a huge crowd of viewers.

In the end the losses we see here are not his real losses of course. I am sure he sold a stake of this action and he his definitely getting money from casinos for doing this.

[arallmuus]

-sniped-

The odds are unfortunately against DNegs. He is just from another era of poker. His specialty is playing life poker with camera present, not multi tables fast path online poker. If the hole challenge was online, DNegs would be crushing him. It's still an awesome challenge and attracts a huge crowd of viewers.

Its live not life btw. Yeah this is pretty much gold mine for alot of people, alot of players / streamers has been given the chance to do some commentary during the game and such. To be honest, I still think that DNeg will try to close the gap once more, he works pretty hard for this with his team and even if he lose in the end, it will be a close one between those two

In the end the losses we see here are not his real losses of course. I am sure he sold a stake of this action and he his definitely getting money from casinos for doing this.

Im not sure about Doug but DNeg is probably sponsored by GGPoker for few percentage of his stake. GGPoker stream this HU match everytime and they also had DNeg give postmatch interview everytime the round is over.

[Steamtyme]

So that last session was huge, I tuned in for the last 40 minutes or so on joeys stream and it was the best balance I've seen in the limited viewing. He had Landen Tice giving some decent commentary for hands, what ifs based on play and then breakdown for decent pots at showdown, but mixed in just being goofy and entertaining.

The last 15 minutes were pretty crazy as Doug squeezed an extra 100K out over a few hands. Some pretty sick coolers for Daniel. Bright side is now that Doug has a decent lead he's got a tweet floating around if it gets 25K retweets he'll stream Fridays session. He's also being reasonable and not acting like it's superior play alone guaranteeing his win rate.

Pretty sure the next one starts up right away, but it should be interesting to see where they stand at the end of the week.

Right now Doug is up 596K over 5751 hands. Lots of game left to play.

[arallmuus]

Some pretty sick coolers for Daniel. Bright side is now that Doug has a decent lead he's got a tweet floating around if it gets 25K retweets he'll stream Fridays session. He's also being reasonable and not acting like it's superior play alone guaranteeing his win rate.

Pretty sure the next one starts up right away, but it should be interesting to see where they stand at the end of the week.

Right now Doug is up 596K over 5751 hands. Lots of game left to play.

Yeah DNeg played well but the cards are in not in his favour . Doug on the other hand feels so proud in his post match interview to have win that huge amount in one session despite that it was mostly pretty nasty coolers. Thats one thing about poker especially headsUp, you wont make it to the pot unless the card is in your favour. What makes it worst was that lot of those coolers are all in and Dneg loses around 300k just for a session.

Here is Daniel's In Depth "funny" analysis on How To lose $300,000 in 3 hours  


DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 12

DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 13

[tokeweed]

Here's a breakdown of the match's top 5 hands according to Doug and his thought process.  I haven't watched it yet but should be good.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzb_m_DayWg

And I wish they make highlights of each session.  I can't watch a two hour session and not see what they have.  Too boring.

[arallmuus]

Here's a breakdown of the match's top 5 hands according to Doug and his thought process.  

Thats fancy of Doug to give away his thought process especially when the game is not over. Well given that he is ahead for half a million, he might want to let Dneg get some of this information

I haven't watched it yet but should be good.  

Thats a 44 minutes video ( around 35 minutes if you cut out the intro and outro ) of only 5 hands. I'd rather watch the actual session for around 35 minutes or so by skipping few of the rounds and only check on the hands with huge pot

And I wish they make highlights of each session.

They probably will once it is all over . GGPoker youtube channel does make those highlights, just type in ggpoker on your search bar




DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 14 in around an hour

[tokeweed]

I'm hearing Dnegs is getting better and better as they rack up more sessions but not enough to claw his way back to even so far.  When do you guys think the match crosses the 12.5k hand mark?  Can't wait for the stakes to go up.

Oh...  Doug is at HSP season 8.  I haven't watched it yet, just saw the preview.

[arallmuus]

I'm hearing Dnegs is getting better and better as they rack up more sessions but not enough to claw his way back to even so far. 

Not enough but its definitely better than keep on losing. Dneg was -$957k then crawled back to - $696k. Over 100k positive results in just two session. Far from good and winning this HU match

When do you guys think the match crosses the 12.5k hand mark?  Can't wait for the stakes to go up.

Probably on 28th December because that is the next planned session after today's session. They play an average of 250 hands per hour of session and average of 2 hours + session each time and currently at 11,318 hands. Dneg probably wouldnt turn all the tide at 12,500 hand mark but it would be great if he rack up another 100k positive results in the next two sessions

[Steamtyme]

So we are 1 or 2 sessions past the half way mark, and it's still Doug up by 644K.

It's definitely been better for Daniel the last few sessions booking wins, with almost 100K over 750 hands the last session out. I was hoping they were going to up the stakes, would have been crazy to see the size the pots could have got to then. I'm guessing if they keep up this pace we see the end of the challenge in the first week of February or something.

[arallmuus]

It's definitely been better for Daniel the last few sessions

Daniel currently has 3 streak winning session, not much for the last one only up by $27k but he is definitely catching up nw

I was hoping they were going to up the stakes

Its not going to happen.

According to https://upswingpoker.com/doug-polk-vs-daniel-negreanu-grudge-match-rules/. The stake will be the same until the end of the game and if they want to increase the stake, they would need to start a new HU match after this hit 25,000 hands

I'm guessing if they keep up this pace we see the end of the challenge in the first week of February or something.

It could be ending somewhere around that. They usually play for 3 sessions a week on average and recently they play exact amount of either 500 or 750 hands for each session. Its currently on 14,500 hands so it should be around 4-5 weeks to go


Pokershares currently has Dneg on 9.5x odds

[tokeweed]

^  So how’s my guy DNegs doing?  Lol.  I don’t think he’ll catch up vs Doug without doubling up the stakes and getting a heater imo.  Doug is just too skilled in online HUNL.

Anyway, I hope Pokergo brings them back again and have the last 500 hands played live with hole cards cameras.  

[arallmuus]

^  So how’s my guy DNegs doing?  Lol.  I don’t think he’ll catch up vs Doug without doubling up the stakes and getting a heater imo.  Doug is just too skilled in online HUNL.

Dneg currently on his 4th winning streak. The last session ended up with Dneg having +$132k with overall result of +$484k over 15,250 hands for Doug. Its still almost half a million advantage for Doug but if this winning streak continue then Dneg might be able to catch up somehow. Even if he doesnt, he probably wouldnt be losing that much

Doug even tweeted that Dneg plays alot more better recently so expect to see some surprise from Doug for the next session. He is definitely not going to let Dneg keep on winning

Anyway, I hope Pokergo brings them back again and have the last 500 hands played live with hole cards cameras.  

This will be great if it happens

[tokeweed]

^  How many hands to go?  Chasing 12 buyins against Doug HU is a very tall order.  DNegs would need more than just play good.  He’ll need an absolute god mode heater.

Anyway..  I think I’m gonna owe somebody 10 bucks in a couple of weeks or so.  Lolol.  

[arallmuus]

^  How many hands to go?  Chasing 12 buyins against Doug HU is a very tall order.  DNegs would need more than just play good.  He’ll need an absolute god mode heater.

If the hand counter is at exactly 15,250 hands right now that means we have 9,750 hands to go. Recently they will play exactly 750 hands on each session so 13 more sessions to go.

12 Buy in and 13 more sessions to go, that is going to be rough for Dneg to win 1 buy in on average for the remaining sessions.

He’ll need an absolute god mode heater.

Yeah he needs to dominate the remaining sessions.

Anyway..  I think I’m gonna owe somebody 10 bucks in a couple of weeks or so.  Lolol.  

The best scenario would be Doug to win the this HU Match with less than $50k advantage over Dneg. $50k is basically peanut for Dneg and that means the only loser of this match would be those backing up Dneg for the side bet 

[Steamtyme]

Anyway..  I think I’m gonna owe somebody 10 bucks in a couple of weeks or so.  Lolol.  

Here's to hoping. Was getting less comfortable until todays results.

Doug managed to win a decent one pulling back 100K+, so he's back over 600K - I believe it was a 600 hand day which makes sense Daniel has cut the session shorter when he gets down. Definitely not over but this makes it a harder path to victory for Daniel.

The best scenario would be Doug to win the this HU Match with less than $50k advantage over Dneg. $50k is basically peanut for Dneg and that means the only loser of this match would be those backing up Dneg for the side bet 

Depending on what bets he took, Daniel is still going to be losing. Pretty sure he didn't bet against himself. If he took Perkins up on his 10:1 to beat Doug he still loses 100K there or whatever stake they went with. No matter what if he didn't bet on himself to lose, he's losing more.

Now if he pull out the win, Doug is losing a ton of cash, and I have to kiss my 50 good bye 

[arallmuus]

Updating this thread with the latest results

Doug Polk +$946,085.32 over 23,282 hands

The entire challenge has 1718 hands to go and at this point, I dont see how Dneg could turn this around. Dneg won the biggest session with +$390,032.13 over 1046 hands then Doug switch to a new limping strategy to lower the variances of the pot sizes then take further lead on this challenge

Does anyone made any bet on Doug?  


Final result :

Doug Polk won the challenge with rough estimate of $1.2 M

[tokeweed]

^  Hah.  I guess I owe somebody 10 bucks.  Lol.  

Steamtyme, just send me your BTC address so I can ship it your way asap.  Thanks.  

And here’s a vid uploaded by Doug at YT..  It’s basically a recap of the match and his assesment on how good he thinks DNegs played.  It was a fair ‘B - B+’.  He thought DNegs should be a little more aggro in some spots and fight for pots.

My REAL Thoughts on How Negreanu Played
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuM3IsRxBEw

[arallmuus]

 It’s basically a recap of the match and his assesment on how good he thinks DNegs played.  It was a fair ‘B - B+’.  He thought DNegs should be a little more aggro in some spots and fight for pots.

Well thanks to that, he won the challenge otherwise it would have been different. So far I think Dneg only manage to catch Doug's bluff like 2 out of 10 and Doug won alot of decent pot thanks to that. In few early hands of the challenge, Dneg would fold to Doug's Turn all in shove but later Dneg tried to made few hero calls which end up pretty bad for him

I guess people dont call Doug as the best HU player for nothing huh but overall Dneg is better than most of the old live player. Helmuth would have lose alot more in this challenge imo

[Steamtyme]

^  Hah.  I guess I owe somebody 10 bucks.  Lol.  

Address sent. Pleasure doing business with you 

I really didn't feel confident I was going to win the bet until the homestretch. Especially after losing the biggest session of the challenge I for sure thought it was going to keep narrowing the lead. I did watch that video Doug put out and he was very specific.

I thought a lot about what he was saying with Dnegs bluffing and overvaluing on how good the spot was. Not that they weren't good bluff spots but that his cards made it a weaker bluff than it should be, like having a pair and a blocker to the nuts as opposed to just blockers.

Weirdest thing about it all was I never looked into their coaching teams, and didn't realise Dnegs wasn't working with any High stakes HU players

[tokeweed]

^  Rofl!  The pleasure was mine...  As usual.    I tend to get the losing end of these side bets I’m making here in the gambling section.  I think I have two more losing side bets.  With Trofo and another guy I forgot about.    I think it was with Death Angel.