Donald Trump is asking for a delay of the election. Should we do it?

[philipma1957]

So I heard a clip today that Donald Trump thinks we should delay the election.

Should we do the delay.

I thought about it and find I can come up with multiple

answers.

With multiple reasons to delay or not delay.


Please answer poll and post what you think.

To all non americans it would be the first presidential  election delay in the Usa 🇺🇸.

New York had a local election delay due to 911 so election delays have happened for local elections.

I voted that it depends on the length of the delay.

I would be fine with a delay of six months or less.

[suchmoon]

Definitely not. Constitution trumps Trump.

[Spendulus]

So I heard a clip today that Donald Trump thinks we should delay the election.

Should we do the delay.

I thought about it and find I can come up with multiple

answers.

With multiple reasons to delay or not delay.


Please answer poll and post what you think.

To all non americans it would be the first presidential  election delay in the Usa 🇺🇸.

New York had a local election delay due to 911 so election delays have happened for local elections.

I voted that it depends on the length of the delay.

I would be fine with a delay of six months or less.

No delay, and no paper ballots due to COVID.

[squatz1]

Definitely not. Constitution trumps Trump.

+1 to that.

Trump has no authority to delay the election, not even sure there is anyone in government who has the ability to delay the election (disregarding if an amendment to the constitution was passed)

Would be a direct conflict of interest if the sitting President was able to continuously delay the election and make up reasons along the way for doing so. Eh?

Edit: Only group of people who can delay the election is Congress.

[Gyfts]

Can't delay the election. Really bad idea for Trump to tweet about this inviting more pointless controversy.

[suchmoon]

Maybe he was joking. Remember the very humorous bleach joke or the one about reducing testing? He's funny like that.

[squatz1]

Can't delay the election. Really bad idea for Trump to tweet about this inviting more pointless controversy.

Literally just a tried and true part of the Trump playbook called diversion. He speaks about something that is very controversial and it makes the news and people talk about it for the day. For all of today you're going to see people arguing on twitter, facebook, media talking heads, and so on. They're going to talk about the constituionality of it, the health reasons, and all of this bullshit.

Trump knows that the Coronavirus is a VERY BIG losing issue for him. But other things are pretty 50/50 with him and Biden. So if he can shift public attention from the Coronavirus for as long as possible, he may be able to improve his approval ratings. It's a long shot, but everything up to this point has been for Trump. And crazily enough, a lot of the long shot stuff ended up working for him.

Maybe he was joking. Remember the very humorous bleach joke or the one about reducing testing? He's funny like that.

Big jokes. Big jokes.

BLEACH DOWN THE THROAT.

[suchmoon]

So if he can shift public attention from the Coronavirus for as long as possible, he may be able to improve his approval ratings.

Nice theory but wouldn't it be easier to do this not by going full taliban but maybe by toning down some of the other nonsense. He seems to be exceptionally detached from reality.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely believes he can do it. Maybe Sean Hannity or someone floated the idea on TV yesterday.

[Gyfts]

Can't delay the election. Really bad idea for Trump to tweet about this inviting more pointless controversy.

Literally just a tried and true part of the Trump playbook called diversion. He speaks about something that is very controversial and it makes the news and people talk about it for the day. For all of today you're going to see people arguing on twitter, facebook, media talking heads, and so on. They're going to talk about the constituionality of it, the health reasons, and all of this bullshit.

Trump knows that the Coronavirus is a VERY BIG losing issue for him. But other things are pretty 50/50 with him and Biden. So if he can shift public attention from the Coronavirus for as long as possible, he may be able to improve his approval ratings. It's a long shot, but everything up to this point has been for Trump. And crazily enough, a lot of the long shot stuff ended up working for him.

You can't shift away from coronavirus to a brain dead issue like the head of the executive requesting a shift to the election date. Constitutional conservatives will have a huge issue with what Trump's saying here, so he isn't helping his base at all. I have little doubt that Trump is not going to pursue this, just another example of him mouthing off on Twitter for the hell of it.

Whatever his plan is, I never approved Trump's twitter to begin with. It helps out his critics more than anything and gets obnoxious when he becomes flippant about how important 2020 is. One SCOTUS pick is on the ballot because RBG might not be able to serve for much longer.

[FAHRKERIM]

Nothing is gonna change in months or even a year in terms of corona. There's no logical point of delaying it at all. Anyway, it's pretty personal for me, I've won a DV-lottery and if he's gonna stay the president, I'm staying in my 3rd world country

[philipma1957]

So if he can shift public attention from the Coronavirus for as long as possible, he may be able to improve his approval ratings.

Nice theory but wouldn't it be easier to do this not by going full taliban but maybe by toning down some of the other nonsense. He seems to be exceptionally detached from reality.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely believes he can do it. Maybe Sean Hannity or someone floated the idea on TV yesterday.

    Congress can approve it.  It would be a first.  


  I am not a big Trump fan as he has lowered air standard for coal breaking his promise for clean coal.

I am a life long asthmatic suffering and spend 1000's in air filtration every year replacement filters are about 800 bucks along with the power to run them.

Now that my wife has lung damage from her Hospital stay in early Jan (Covid-19?) clean air is an important issue for both of us.  More than any other as I like to breath.

Since Trump has made war on clean air and promises to bring back pickup trucks I simply can't like him as a president.  

I am thinking he may get an extension and is going to work hard at it. He can pretty much shut the post office down which kills mailing voting. I think the Dems don't like that tactic and may give him the extension until April.

The constitution simply does not address this issue of election postponement directly.

But

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_3:_Senate
Section 4: Congressional elections[edit]
Clause 1: Time, place, and manner of holding[edit]
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators.

Implies congress could do it.


It would be funny if congress  does grant the delay.

 then gets sued and the drunk that likes beer rules against Trump forcing a Nov election.

Which is a disaster since the mailing ballots are lost or deemed not valid.


Damn. you can't make this shit up.

I am sure whatever I put in this post won't be any thing close to what happens.   .


As I think what happens will be nuttier than this idea.

[suchmoon]

Implies congress could do it.

Only within a very narrow window of about 4-6 weeks because the inauguration couldn't be postponed without a constitutional amendment (my understanding anyway) so that's what - mid-December latest for the election? Gets very tight on time later than that.

I doubt Trump had any of that in mind though. He just blurted something out that sounded good to him.

[Spendulus]

Implies congress could do it.

Only within a very narrow window of about 4-6 weeks because the inauguration couldn't be postponed without a constitutional amendment (my understanding anyway) so that's what - mid-December latest for the election? Gets very tight on time later than that.

I doubt Trump had any of that in mind though. He just blurted something out that sounded good to him.

Well, it gives all the fine Democrats something to talk about other than the fine young innocent and peaceful protesters of Antifa

[PrimeNumber7]

I don't see any basis for delaying the election. Trump suggesting that we should delay the election is not going to help his chances of getting a second term.

With the above being said, there is also no reason to not have in-person voting with voter ID.

[BADecker]

Delay it for 4 years; then elect him in for a second term.     

[squatz1]

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Ouch Phil, didn't even notice that was an issue that was facing people.

So right now you (and your wife) are not only dealing with the issues of clean air, but also now because of COVID you are in the the high risk category right?

Clean Coal was a bullshit promise. Clean Coal means no coal. Never understood how we could possibly try to save the coal industry. It's done and it's going to die soon, just invest money into programs to teach people how to work in other industries and help with the placement. Nothing that can be done to save that industry now.

Would be much better to go ahead and incentivize the use of cleaner energy (and research into) such as Nuclear, Solar, and Wind (lord even Natural Gas and Oil are cleaner when you're trying to make the air cleaner)

[Vod]

With the above being said, there is also no reason to not have in-person voting with voter ID.

Reason:  Thousands of hotspots where activists will harass people wearing masks.   

Why can't the government digitize the voting system?   Esp with all the verification options available.

[eddie13]

He sure is good at getting people talking isn't he?

I am a life long asthmatic suffering and spend 1000's in air filtration every year replacement filters are about 800 bucks along with the power to run them.

Now that my wife has lung damage from her Hospital stay in early Jan (Covid-19?) clean air is an important issue for both of us.  More than any other as I like to breath.

May I humbly suggest you move to a location with clean air?



Man.. The more I know the more I love where I live..

pickup trucks

Pickup trucks are fine as long as their isn't like a million of em all in one place..

We don't even have to have catalytic converters here where I live (cut em off), no emissions laws at all, or vehicle inspections, but I'll be darned if I'm not in the blue on that map, lol..


Oh yeah.. And no I don't think we should delay the election, but if the china virus is such a big problem, we should delay the election rather than open up to insecure mail-in voting..
They are just trying to use it as an excuse to allow votes to be less secure..
The "delay elections" line looks to me like calling a bluff, and starting a bit of drama..

[Quickseller]

One of the founders of the federalist society, who has supported Trump as recently as when he was being impeached earlier this year is now calling for Trump's immediate impeachment. -- https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html

Trump has historically played 4-D chess with his political opponents. This got him the nomination in 2016, and the presidency. He lost big in 2018, but this was in large part due to Sessions recusing himself.

Trump has also faced near universal backlash on both sides of the isle. It appears Republicans are not supporting him on the issue of delaying the election. It appears this was an attempt to get the MSM to talk about the risks of voting via mail, but it also could result in him not getting the nomination next month.

[philipma1957]

@ eddie13

moving would work.
I would move,but  wife is not ready to do it.

I have all my family and my wife's family in NJ,NY,CT.

I did live in San Francisco, San Diego, and Los Angeles.

I have a few USN buddies on the west coast so moving is a possibility. I would think Oregon or Washington could work for us.

If trump gets re-elected moving is on the agenda as air will get worse here in North East.