It doesn't matter when the U.S. got the virus. Coronavirus on average has a Ro value >1 meaning that one person will, on average, transmit the disease to more than one person essentially causing everyone in a population to get infected over time. This is why you're seeing large second waves in countries that handled the virus well initially. There is no containing the virus.
That's not how it works at all. If contact tracing was perfect, you could stop the virus before infecting more than a handful of people, and then poof it would disappear.
Just because it can technically spread to everyone doesn't mean it will. It's just one more factor.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/I'd advise you to click the link above and look at Japan's curve chart. They're curve is indicative of exponential growth and they have a clear defined second wave. I'd also argue Japan, on average, is healthier than the average fat fuck of an American that's riddled with heart disease and drinks 5 budlights a day. Also, Japan is small enough in population on absolute terms to implement adequate contact tracing. This won't work in a country like the U.S. due to population size.
Japan's population is not small. It's about half of the population of the US. (About 40% if you're being pedantic, even 38% if you're being anal)
Japan is also spread through islands and has some very dense areas. Contact tracing isn't going to be any harder in the US.
Contact tracing becomes a little harder when you don't handle the crisis in a timely fashion. It'd be even easier in the US as you can just limit travel from the infected states and you have tons of land separation.
Just because New York got hit, it didn't mean that florida had to be hit hard, but it did. Florida is Trumptopia and they listened to big daddy Trump. I'm not saying Trump is bad, nor that Trump people are bad, many of my friends are very pro-Trump.
What I am saying, is that Trump fucked up. Do you disagree?
Also on the China data. Thunderf00t on YouTube (thunderf00t is a PHD chemist, who does mostly nuclear chemistry experiments on nuclear reactors and has had a pretty solid academic career (a lot of impactful papers)) used the data from China.
In fact using the data from China he made a simple but actually very accurate model for other countries, including the US before the whole thing was even a crisis. Since his model was accurate, that leads me to believe the Chinese numbers were accurate.
You'll notice on the chinese data there is suddenly a day with a huge increase, that's when they expanded the definition for what is considered coronavirus related.
Yes the Chinese government is pretty close to dystopian. I would never want to live in country like that. However look at the PPE they are using and the measures they took. It makes pefect sense they could contain the virus quickly.
There is a lot of conspiracy bullshit when it comes to China precisely because the government is so oppressive, however I haven't seen a theory that hasn't been debunked.
I used to watch China uncensored and there are many mistakes made, it's very sensational but also very low on substance. A lot of lies and exaggerations. It's funny to "expose" a ridiculously evil government like the Chinese communist party but you have to remain factual.
Did they unjustly jail people of a minority group and harvest their organs. Checkity check check.
Did they hide coronavirus deaths... No, not really as the data they gave us had predictive capacity.
They did try and cover up the virus initially but they gave up quickly enough not to necessarily fuck everyone over. If China hadn't tried to cover it up, we probably would never be in that situation.
But had it started in the United States, due to the general incompetence, greed, and limited availabilty of medical services present, the global crises would have been WAY worse.
It's funny how history repeats itself. The Spanish flu originated in the United States (Kansas), but Spain was the country that first admitted it had a problem. So everyone else covered it up until then (with good reasons).
China gets a new pandemic and doesn't admit it either until it's too late. 100 years later.
Anyway this thread was suppossed to be about the great work of the juice media.
Greatly summarizes the situation in the US. I haven't seen any valid criticism of the video. In fact, I'll just re-watch.
My only criticism of their videos. Some of the humor is hit or miss, it's not all George carlin level, but honestly for what passes for humor these days, it's top tier. S-Class.
