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August 09, 2020, 02:38:31 PM
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you link reprimanded ex doctors who misquote other doctors

i showed you the links to the actual reports.
just because you cant read them doesnt make them irrelevant it just means your asking for things you never want to understand and thus you become more of an idiot by ignoring the info you asked for by saying that you cant understand it

if your not prepared to learn something. then stop asking for it
but all you do is ask and the moan that you dont understand it..
so try to learn how to understand it. do some proper research.. or admit you have no intention of learning. and you dont actually want real answers.

If this is what you really believe, why don't you show the reports that I ask for, the way I ask above? Can't you at least say that here (link) is a basic, foundational report that shows the real trials and tests the way I ask for them in my previous post? Or don't you think that being sure about a virus is important?

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August 13, 2020, 07:44:07 AM
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I believed most of this pandemic disease is cause or create by some big fish in the pharma organization in other to achieve their selfish purpose but I find it hard to believe that viruses do not exist and what about the diseases caused by human immunodeficiency virus?
With that been said, I did some research about the exosomes you and I believe it has almost the same symptom COVID 19 patient had but is there a cure for the exosomes in other to be sure if the COVID 19 pandemic was just a lie.


in my country there is news that covid-19 is a conspiracy made to frighten. but I don't see that and the reality is that many people have suffered and experienced death due to covid-19, and have even touched medical personnel who operationally know whether Covid-19 really exists or not. who would want to sacrifice himself because of unbelief which the frontline officers, namely doctors, have experienced.

So I do not believe in the news that says that Covid-19 is a conspiracy and that is very misleading because there will be many who do not heed health protocols resulting in many people being infected and continue to be out of control. sorry for the medical staff who have tried so hard to cope but the crowd is not committed to taking good care of themselves according to the rules of health protocol.

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August 14, 2020, 04:55:36 AM
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The point is that the only way to determine if a virus is the culprit, is to do some strict tests. These tests involve,
- extracting some material from a sick subject,
- filtering the material so all that is left is virus-sized stuff or smaller,
- centrifuging this stuff to separate out the various substances,
- drawing off and testing the substances at different levels in the centrifuge,
- chemically testing each group for virus-like reactions (viruses are too small to see),
- growing each separated out material that looks like a virus in a petri dish so that...
- inject the material into several hundred test subjects to see if they get sick,
- withdraw some material from the sick ones (if there are any),
- test this material in the same way the original was tested to see if it is the same material as the original.

Various methods might vary somewhat from isolation and identification of a virus. But essentially, these are the steps that must be done regarding identifying a new virus.

I'm still looking for a test report that shows that Covid was identified this way. If it wasn't, there probably isn't any Covid... at least not that we know for sure. If it isn't Covid, what might it be? It could easily be a strain of some other kind of virus. And it might be lack of sun spots doing something to the atmosphere. It could be any number of other things.

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August 14, 2020, 05:16:19 AM
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test reports were shown to badecker multiple times
his amnesia or dimensia is his failing
covid has passed the kosh rivers and bell. and badecker keeps needing to be reminded of it

part of PCR tests include the centrifuge part that badecker keeps crying about is needed
if he actually researched he would know
but ignoring, forgetting and crying is the only reason badecker thinks he doesnt have a report.

its been dubbed an umbrella term covid pcr test as a common phrase not a description
the full common umbrella term is the covid prc testing kit. because it includes many processes and alsomany parts

the rest of the world know its been proven and hundreds of thousands of people have died and had family members witness to the symptoms
many many thousands of doctors have both witnesses the symptoms and also done lots of scans and blood tests and swabs including urine and fecal matter aswell as nasal, throat and even lung broncio lavage (lung fluid) tests.

badeckers ignorance is why he cant find anything
badeckers ignorance is his flaw

badecker gets informed of the results. and for one day accepts it and then goes into ignorance of amnesia mode the next day
his latest effort is that 1000's of test subjects need to be seen as getting sick
well lots of specimens have been infected

labs around the world have done there own tests so while badecker tries to ask for one report that has such specifics. he then cries that its not layed out in simple english
and when he gets the simple english summary he cries that its not specifically detailed enough


what he should find is hundreds of reports with it all containing the info he ignorantly asks for but then deny ever getting

badecker keeps getting stuck on the centrifuge part because he heard in a video that centrifuges are not used (idiots beleives anything on youtube)
so here is the UK government showing that centrifuges are part of the process
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-guidance-for-clinical-diagnostic-laboratories/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-handling-and-processing-of-laboratory-specimens#centrifugation

heres the US saying the word centrifuge several times
https://www.fda.gov/media/137120/download


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August 14, 2020, 04:39:25 PM
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test reports were shown to badecker multiple times
his amnesia or dimensia is his failing
covid has passed the kosh rivers and bell. and badecker keeps needing to be reminded of it

part of PCR tests include the centrifuge part that badecker keeps crying about is needed
if he actually researched he would know
but ignoring, forgetting and crying is the only reason badecker thinks he doesnt have a report.

its been dubbed an umbrella term covid pcr test as a common phrase not a description
the full common umbrella term is the covid prc testing kit. because it includes many processes and alsomany parts

the rest of the world know its been proven and hundreds of thousands of people have died and had family members witness to the symptoms
many many thousands of doctors have both witnesses the symptoms and also done lots of scans and blood tests and swabs including urine and fecal matter aswell as nasal, throat and even lung broncio lavage (lung fluid) tests.

badeckers ignorance is why he cant find anything
badeckers ignorance is his flaw

badecker gets informed of the results. and for one day accepts it and then goes into ignorance of amnesia mode the next day
his latest effort is that 1000's of test subjects need to be seen as getting sick
well lots of specimens have been infected

labs around the world have done there own tests so while badecker tries to ask for one report that has such specifics. he then cries that its not layed out in simple english
and when he gets the simple english summary he cries that its not specifically detailed enough


what he should find is hundreds of reports with it all containing the info he ignorantly asks for but then deny ever getting

badecker keeps getting stuck on the centrifuge part because he heard in a video that centrifuges are not used (idiots beleives anything on youtube)
so here is the UK government showing that centrifuges are part of the process
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-guidance-for-clinical-diagnostic-laboratories/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-handling-and-processing-of-laboratory-specimens#centrifugation

heres the US saying the word centrifuge several times
https://www.fda.gov/media/137120/download



You are so humorous. Cheesy

All that your links show is that people all over the place know that certain steps must be followed to correctly ID any virus. What they don't show is that the steps were applied, and more importantly, that the steps were applied successfully.

As long as you keep on posting useless info, rather than reports where the steps are expressedly written about as they are being done, you are continually missing it.

However, I understand. You wouldn't know a process-usage if it jumped right up and bit you in the eyeball. And that's the other reason why you can't even copy and paste the parts of any report that show the actual test being applied. What's the first reason? They aren't there.

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August 14, 2020, 08:02:27 PM
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the things your ignorant of is now you admit you accept the process is correct.
you can now go and look at the studies i linked a few times over the last couple months that show the process being done.
you can even see the links refer to extra info like the pictures of the patients xrays and other sampling tests/scans that double verify the specific issues,symptoms of those studied

then you can look at the studies of the koch/rivers/bell passing studies. the ones where it includes pictures of the mice and hampsters they tested it on. which includes other sampling/scans that double verify

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you been told all this many times and now its just your ignorance and amnesia that is failing you. not the studies..

i know your next game is to just accept the process is corect in this topic, so creating a new topic to go back to being ignorant again.. your post history shows you played this game before
and its getting boring.

maybe look at your post history to see your flip flops from the past before deciding to make a new post

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August 14, 2020, 09:08:10 PM
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the things your ignorant of is now you admit you accept the process is correct.


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August 14, 2020, 09:31:48 PM
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it makes sense when looking at your overall post history.

anyways
you said i showed you links recently that showed the steps that must be taken to identify a virus
thus you admit the process exists

previously and multiple times i showed you links to loads of studies of them doing the process
thats what you are ignorant of now

so now you accept the process you can alleviate your ignorance and look at the studies using the process

oh and by the way the process has existed even before covid was a word you ever used in any post on this forum. so dont say its a new process only used this month

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August 15, 2020, 12:04:12 AM
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it makes sense when looking at your overall post history.

anyways
you said i showed you links recently that showed the steps that must be taken to identify a virus
thus you admit the process exists
Seems to me that I have been showing you for more than two months that several processes exist.



previously and multiple times i showed you links to loads of studies of them doing the process
thats what you are ignorant of now
Seems to me that not once were you able or willing to show the parts of any record that expressed one of the processes being properly followed to its for-sure conclusion.



so now you accept the process you can alleviate your ignorance and look at the studies using the process

oh and by the way the process has existed even before covid was a word you ever used in any post on this forum. so dont say its a new process only used this month

The point isn't how many processes exist, or how long they existed. The point isn't even somebody's attempt to follow a process. As Dr. Andrew Kaufman showed, the original Chinese processes for SARS were attempted. Some to all of the steps were followed in part. But they were never followed critically... in such a way that they produced for-sure results.

While Dr. Kaufman didn't go into the step process for Covid - at least not that I have seen - he DID state that the same kind of inappropriate and improper following of the process steps were done for Covid, as well.

The thing that Dr. Kaufman was basing his conclusion on was the reports. Nobody knows what some doctor or researcher does in his fun time. He might even perfectly prove that SARS-CoV-2 exists. But if he can't write it in his reports properly, nobody but he really knows.

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August 15, 2020, 04:56:39 AM
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and the idiot is now saying he has been saying there are several processes when he was the one saying there is no process because he thought there was no way to identify it because he thought it must be an exosome
then the idiot above thought that 'centrifuge' was the only step/process. and i corrected him once again


what an ignorant flip flop idiot
i was the one telling him the processes.

yes thousands of studies have came to a fore-gone conclusion
they include images of xrays and blood samples that double verify the sickness existed in the subject

and millions of tests have been done to a foregone conclusion(just positive or negative result) without it being a waffly exploration,experimentation, explanation report attached

once a process has passed the koch, rivers. bell and the lab can show they follow the standards/procedure. they can just get on and do millions of tests without having to give blowjobs to idiots to explain every detail every time

they actually have equipment now (for many months) that the labs use. its not just random processes mixed together changing by the second. its set equipment to a set process with set chemicals. (aka a set process)

i know you want a metaphoric blowjob to pander to your ignorance per every test.
and you seem to not want to be happy unless you get millions of metaphoric blowjobs

but thats not how the real world works
once a process has been proved to work, along with sub processes to double check the reliability of the processes (double checking the reagents are pure from contamination. and many other things)

but now you have accepted that process that has been around for the entire time does work. you have to accept that they are doing the tests

because millions of people around the world have taken the test and got their results back

im not sure if your next ploy is to say people are not getting tested because you think no one is getting sick so your trying to next assume all the test numbers are of fake people that dont exist.

but the reality is millions of people have been tested. and got their results
hundreds of thousands of doctors have witnessed the symptoms, seems the xrays seen the test results
hundreds of thousands of lab techs have witnessed the processes

kaufman is not even a doctor that knows about this area of medicine/biology nor is even in a position to witness the patients or the lab processes.

so like i said many months ago
go to your local hospital and speak to the real medical people treating patients and running tests/scans and stop being an ignorant idiot following cultish sites that interveiw people that are not even in the frontline hospital profession. even if they stitch a brand 'frontline' on their coats

so you also aacknowledge i linked you a list of thousands of sequences
so here again just for youhere is just one example
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/1798174254
it is full of study notes and references and also includes links to them
take this one
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32015508/
which shows
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32015508/#&gid=article-figures&pid=extended-data-fig-1-uid-3
which is the xray OF THE PATIENT IN THAT PARTICULAR STUDY

now its for you to go check the studies and to understand the details they contain.
because they contain alot of detail.
so go read them. like i told you to moths ago

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^^^ I agree regarding protocols. Why is it that you can't show any details in any reports that show that anybody followed the protocols?

All that blab. And all it remains is blab, at least until you can show the protocols being followed in the reports. However, since the reports could be lies, perhaps you could point out the report makers, so that we could follow up with them if we wanted to.

I'm not saying these things don't exist in the reports. All I am saying is that you can't prove that they do by even pointing them out to anyone, from even one report. Probably you don't have a clue as to what exists and what doesn't.

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did you even read the pubmed reports


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'Pathogenic' viruses do not exist


It is a truth universally acknowledged that pathogenic viruses exist. These viruses allegedly cause terrible diseases such as mumps, measles, rubella, AIDS and swine flu.

But what if these pathogenic viruses do not exist? What if no scientist has ever purified or isolated these alleged pathogenic viruses from the host cells?

During his undergraduate years at university, Dr Stefan Lanka came across a virus that had ‘infected’ a sea algae. The virus didn’t make the sea-algae sick. In fact the virus helped the sea algae to bloom and thrive, which was quite the opposite of what he had expected. He was really excited, because he had discovered what he thought was the first stable “virus-host” relationship. The virus did not threaten the host, but was welcomed by the sea algae and both co-existed harmoniously or endo-symbiotically.

In order to prove the existence of this virus, he isolated, biochemically characterized and photographed it. The photograph was taken by an electron microscope originally invented in the 1930s, and the biochemical characterisation was carried out using techniques invented in the 1970s. By 1994 he had achieved this and had obtained his doctorate.

The virus Dr Stefan Lanka discovered is called the Ectocarpus siliculosus virus. This virus is not pathogenic and enables the sea algae to thrive because of it, and not despite it. The diameter of this virus is approximately 120nm (nm - nano-meter - one billionth of a meter).

Dr Lanka was asked about pathogenic viruses such as HIV and did some research. He examined the scientific literature and discovered there was absolutely no evidence for the existence of any pathogenic virus deemed dangerous by the scientists and MDs; such as the mumps, measles, rubella and swine-flu  viruses, and against which our children are vaccinated.


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August 17, 2020, 08:21:39 PM
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so Dr lanka would go out and try to find a non venomous spider and than say because of that 1 species of spider he beleives no spider is venomous(facepalm)

so dr lanka would go out and find someone that has drove a car for 70 years without a car crash. and then believe no car crashes ever happen to any cars/drivers(facepalm)

here is a fun fact for you
spiders and viruses are not clever, they do not have brains to make a conscious decision to not become harmful. what happens is natural evolution where each ancestry mutates and where a spider with all the markings of a black widow but has less venom is still not attacked by others. but ends up living longer because it just doesnt bite large species and thus is not swatted/stamped on as much and so the non venomous version ends up living longer
its not a conscious intelliagent thought. its not something that happens overnight. it happens over many many generations

same goes for some viruses. like the algae one that has been around since ancient times when you analyse the sequence to see what family it belongs to

it didnt just pop up in 6 months suddenly being harmonious. over many thousands of years a variant that is less problematic to the host was able to replicate at such a slow rate the algae outgrows the damage caused. thus allowing the virus to continue replicating longer without killing the host

thus mutation is not a thing that happens after 1 generation(couple days-weeks) this is something that happens over a decade/century/millenia

so to rpre-empt your future flip flops
if you think that sars can mutate within a few months to become symbiotic. then you really are not understanding the facts of life.
and if you think that viruses do no harm then you are very ignorant.

you seem to be stuck in a binary thought of symbiotic or deadly and you think there is no inbetween
you think sars-cov-2 infects people and everyone has no symptoms but then must suddenly die. because you keep ignoring, avoid mentioning the amount of people going to hospital with severe symptoms

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so Dr lanka would go out and try to find a non venomous spider and than say because of that 1 species of spider he beleives no spider is venomous(facepalm)

so dr lanka would go out and find someone that has drove a car for 70 years without a car crash. and then believe no car crashes ever happen to any cars/drivers(facepalm)

here is a fun fact for you
spiders and viruses are not clever, they do not have brains to make a conscious decision to not become harmful. what happens is natural evolution where each ancestry mutates and where a spider with all the markings of a black widow but has less venom is still not attacked by others. but ends up living longer because it just doesnt bite large species and thus is not swatted/stamped on as much and so the non venomous version ends up living longer
its not a conscious intelliagent thought. its not something that happens overnight. it happens over many many generations

same goes for some viruses. like the algae one that has been around since ancient times when you analyse the sequence to see what family it belongs to

it didnt just pop up in 6 months suddenly being harmonious. over many thousands of years a variant that is less problematic to the host was able to replicate at such a slow rate the algae outgrows the damage caused. thus allowing the virus to continue replicating longer without killing the host

thus mutation is not a thing that happens after 1 generation(couple days-weeks) this is something that happens over a decade/century/millenia

so to rpre-empt your future flip flops
if you think that sars can mutate within a few months to become symbiotic. then you really are not understanding the facts of life.
and if you think that viruses do no harm then you are very ignorant.

you seem to be stuck in a binary thought of symbiotic or deadly and you think there is no inbetween
you think sars-cov-2 infects people and everyone has no symptoms but then must suddenly die. because you keep ignoring, avoid mentioning the amount of people going to hospital with severe symptoms

The fact that there aren't any viruses shows that it is the medical liars who are clever.

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so now your debunking dr lanka by saying dr lanka never found a virus
flip or flop. which is it

by you now saying dr lanka never found a virus. why even reference dr lanka at all.
the more likely reality is viruses do exist and there is a scale of devistation they can cause.
its not a 0% or 100% there is a scale inbetween
and new viruses never seen before that do different things than their ancestors can use different issues

but if you think that viruses are not real. then there is nothing to try to be 'herd immune' against because you beleive there is nothing to harm the immune system.
so which flip flop is it.

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so now your debnking dr lanka by saying dr lanka never found a virus
flip or flop. which is it

by you now saying dr lanka never found a virus. why even reference dr lanka at all.

You can call blades of grass viruses if you want. He found something that he called viruses. But notice that they weren't the same as many of his colleagues suggested.

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Viruses don't exist. They are simply a method being used by medical leaders to make money.


アンドリュー・カウフマン:コロナウイルスは存在しない

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Viruses don't exist. They are simply a method being used by medical leaders to make money.


アンドリュー・カウフマン:コロナウイルスは存在しない

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I don't want us to type past each other but it's pretty easy to tell that viruses exist. You've gotten a cold or the flu before. Do you believe you were being poisoned the entire time, and every time you've gotten the flu or a cold?

I'll watch your conspiracy videos because I find it entertaining. I kinda hate the YouTube is tryin to wipe those out. I love conspiracy videos.

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Man, I was expecting some of that classic conspiracy genre long video going down path after path of conspiracy theorizing. I love that stuff. This seemed so much lamer.... Come on Badecker, you've gotta have something better than this.


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August 19, 2020, 04:29:46 AM
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Viruses don't exist. They are simply a method being used by medical leaders to make money.


アンドリュー・カウフマン:コロナウイルスは存在しない

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CPLyoWIQLsUK/




Cool

I don't want us to type past each other but it's pretty easy to tell that viruses exist. You've gotten a cold or the flu before. Do you believe you were being poisoned the entire time, and every time you've gotten the flu or a cold?

I'll watch your conspiracy videos because I find it entertaining. I kinda hate the YouTube is tryin to wipe those out. I love conspiracy videos.

Edit:

Man, I was expecting some of that classic conspiracy genre long video going down path after path of conspiracy theorizing. I love that stuff. This seemed so much lamer.... Come on Badecker, you've gotta have something better than this.



That's your indoctrination talking. Step out of belief, and get into knowledge. Sure, the knowledge isn't that viruses don't exist. Rather, the knowledge is that most of the basic virus knowledge isn't knowledge at all, but only assumptions.

Take a look at this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269412.msg55022594#msg55022594 - and then seriously start to study with an eye for things that have actually been prove. Viruses aren't proven. Evidence, maybe. But no proof.

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