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August 03, 2020, 09:55:25 AM |
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Remember the late Miriam Defensor-Santiago? Correct me if I’m wrong, but she had authored a “pandemic plan” if she were to be elected as Philippine president rather than president Rodrigo Duterte. It’s just sad that she passed away due to cancer.
If that were being implemented, we could have easily prepared just like in New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam, etc. I do agree that our economy is falling due to lockdown and other stringent measures. Now they are taxing online sellers and digital content creators to help recover government’s relief efforts.
However, we are slowly recovering (despite NCR and other nearby provinces are under lockdown for 2 weeks). If we could have prepared early as a third-world country and implemented the late Miriam Defensor-Santiago’s pandemic plan, we could have set a great example to the rest of the world that we could beat the virus once and for all.
For me, full lockdown isn’t really a great solution. If full lockdown was into effect, businesses would go down again. It’s all about balancing both economy and managing health by means of granular or localized lockdowns.
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August 03, 2020, 10:53:54 AM |
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-IATF gives a f*ck on letting the motorcycle run again, but what's with the barrier thing? you can be on an accident anytime just because of that, can't see their logic especially if the backrider was your wife/partner
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Keep your cool bro ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . That barrier thing is not intended for husband and wife, it's for the hard headed individuals that will violate that rules. If only people will obey and follow the guideline that only wife/partner can ride on the back then that barrier is not needed but there is just too many violators here in our country bro. Imagine if there is one "habal-habal" driver that is positive of the virus and there is no barrier in place, that would be disaster. IATF is a group of intelligent individuals that is trusted by the President to make guidelines in slowing down the spread of the virus and mind you, they too, are tired on the current situation of our country.
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I feel the pain do you have because right now, instead of focusing to fight the covid they are going to make a different laws does not related to the human rights and this is the Anti-terror bill or the R.A 11479 [1]. 1.https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/downloads/2020/06jun/20200703-RA-11479-RRD.pdf Also there are a lot of health workers right now want to take a break for a mean time because some of them are already exhausted and tired for the long quarantine and some in the government that they must do all of their works more hard and doesn't need to complain. Right now our(Philippines) country are now having another enchance community on this August 4 - 18 and again some of the people right now are getting panic again and bulk buying of foods. Even the data its not accurate what are the real number of infected and what are total recoveries. I hope they make a changes and hear the voice of their people. When the covid starts after a months some of the country already a covid I hope we reach this soon not only in the Philippines but in the world too. Keep safe everyone.
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Good read but it's a two-month old article so I'm not sure if the data used there is updated. I guess not because PH is still under "Low mobility, Low recovery" group. Our recovery rate spiked since IATF recently adopted the new method for classification suggested by DOH in its memorandum. When it comes to mobility, things were slowly going back to normal but another two weeks of MECQ starting tomorrow will slow down mobility again. The majority of countries in Southeast Asia such as the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore are predicted that if it cannot boost the economy in Q3, the potential for depression is more apparent. The problem faced by the Philippines government and the majority of countries in Southeast Asia affected by corona is the lack of liquidity, so each sector can calculate but there is no money in the safe. Like a weapon ready in the cock but the bullet is not there.
Not that it's completely out of bullets since other projects (particularly infra) are still being pushed but yeah, the funds were stretched to its limits when the Government realligned/reallocated funds and then spent₱275 billion as initial COVID-19 response (Bayanihan to Heal as One Act). Right now, there's another bill (Bayanihan to Recover as One Act) that will allow the Government to set another ₱140 billion for socioeconomic and health programs. The government also widened the budget deficit caused by rising costs of national economic recovery due to pressure from the pandemic. With this condition, the government also took various steps to be able to finance the deficit needs. This is because current state revenues are also incapable because they are under pressure. The solution taken is generally through foreign loans because it is considered easier and cheaper than issuing state securities. Though often poor debt management and cause new problems later on.
As expected, state revenues won't be enough due to limited mobility. As to the foreign loans acquired and how it might be utilized, the Government managed to bring down the national debt prior to COVID-19 which also resulted to the country's improved credit rating. I trust our economic managers can continue to build on that.
I'm eager to see what's the country's GDP this second quarter. It's expected to be larger than first quarter's -0.2 percent. In an article, another economist predicted it to be at a -6.3 percent while the succeeding two quarters are projected to be at -5.8 percent and -3.5 percent, respectively. Not good to see the negative there but it's still a recovery. Next year's growth is projected at 3.5 percent, 5.7 percent, 5,8 percent, and 4.5 percent for the first to fourth quarters. I do hope the stimulus bills such as Corporate Recovery and Tax Incentives for Enterprises (CREATE Act), which reduces corporate income tax, will be passed soon for the Government's Four Pillar Recovery Program to be fully implemented.
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The previous country with a high standard that called previously the Pear of the Orient Sea and visited by the different people because the beauty it has are now more on the tragedy on their government and economy right now on this pandemic outbreak most of them are aiming to clear the second wave of this virus and avoid getting spreading and by that the whole Manila which is the center of the Philippines is now having a lockdown again because of the increasing number of COVID positive. Still, they are doing is to make different action and not support their health workers instead of having a hazard pay they also down some of their workers I think the government is too much greedy and also the recently is the terror bill that people does not have any rights to fight against the government even you are using the social media and you can now be arrested with no warrant of arrest.
These are just a few things happening right now in the Philippines because of having bad decisions, not good government officials, and no plans. Also, the large debt right now in the Philippines is so huge but the people do not feel that the country borrows this large amount and still no changes and does not have any help from the government.
I'm a Filipino so I know what is happening right now in the Philippines. Still, I'm hoping they will change those movements and listen up to their people to aim for the fight to covid.
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(I am a Filipino citizen)
We have the worst Government in this time of Pandemic, It's not all about the President but the Government as a whole.
what can you say about our situation for being the worst and also as the leading country on ASEAN that has a high number of Covid Cases. It's been months already and yet, jnstead of recoveries we are getting most of it, and our economy is already falling. Or in other words, how will you react if you're one of us staying on the same country...
I can sympathize with you - your situation is really deplorable. The economies of all countries without exception suffered great damage due to the pandemic, but the Philippines was hit harder than the rest. Your government has made a great mistake in turning its people against themselves. I hope you have the strength to get out of the hole you are in now.
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August 03, 2020, 04:00:29 PM |
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The pandemic showed how incompetent some government officials are. Even with the number of cases rising, the government cannot afford to announce another Enhanced Community Quarantine because the economy will totally collapse. The pandemic showed how poor the government officials managed the situation, putting aside the requests of the front liners and disregarding professional opinions of doctors to conduct another lockdown.
It might be difficult to admit, but we have the worst government. We are unprepared for this, poor medical facilities, mismanaged funds, lack of medical supplies, incompetent lawmakers and government officials, name it, the Philippines has it. If the current situation will not be handled, we might face the worst scenario in a few months where even the front liners will lose hope on winning against the pandemic.
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August 03, 2020, 04:14:38 PM |
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That barrier thing is
a total waste of money, imagine I buy it yesterday so we can finally ride it along with my wife, but now look at our policies, such a damn,... MECQ in just 15days? what a joke, right? It would be more effective if we're back woth a Total Lockdown. I'd rather choose to get starve than to kill myself with that Covid. Our people re too dumb to realize that's why even aour government are also acting way too dumb.
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August 04, 2020, 04:41:35 AM |
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(I am a Filipino citizen)
We have the worst Government in this time of Pandemic, It's not all about the President but the Government as a whole.
what can you say about our situation for being the worst and also as the leading country on ASEAN that has a high number of Covid Cases. It's been months already and yet, jnstead of recoveries we are getting most of it, and our economy is already falling. Or in other words, how will you react if you're one of us staying on the same country...
Not only the Philippines experienced that kind of situation almost all countries getting worst situations becuase of the pandemic. I am also a Filipino and I can say also that we are proud nowadays that we have a good government, a good leader who is vey helpful and concern about the real situation and feelings of every Filipino duting this time of Pandemic. All I can say is that we need to cooperate what the protocols given by the government because we will not win this fight when will not follow rules. We can do it, be a law abiding citizen!
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August 04, 2020, 08:37:15 AM |
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(I am a Filipino citizen)
We have the worst Government in this time of Pandemic, It's not all about the President but the Government as a whole.
what can you say about our situation for being the worst and also as the leading country on ASEAN that has a high number of Covid Cases. It's been months already and yet, jnstead of recoveries we are getting most of it, and our economy is already falling. Or in other words, how will you react if you're one of us staying on the same country...
Well, for starters, the government should focus on tackling the case of Corona Virus. I believe that the lack of planning would really put off the economic status of a country. The Corona Virus is not a joke when it affects third world countries and among South East Asian countries, Indonesia and Philippines really had a bad plan encountering this pandemic. I believe they should just focus on Corona Virus since there would be no people left to govern once they are all infected with the disease.
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August 04, 2020, 08:40:55 AM |
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That barrier thing is
a total waste of money, imagine I buy it yesterday so we can finally ride it along with my wife, but now look at our policies, such a damn,... <...> I disagree with that barrier thing as well. It's said that they would allow to ride motorcycles but for husband and wife only or live-in partners provided that there is a barrier. I mean, what?! Those people are together inside their home and if their house is not that big enough, they cannot practice social distancing all the time. They're also wearing helmets and a mask inside it while riding the motorcycle. Plus, the Philippine Society of Mechanical Engineers have already provided calculations on how that barrier is dangerous and uneconomical. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) If Philippines is a YouTuber, it has a silver play button already. Ugh! When will this end?
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August 04, 2020, 09:34:55 AM |
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It is sad to know about your economic situation. Living in Philipine is kinda tough. If i were you, I would find a way to work on the Internet because as the information you give me, we cant rely on the Govnerment. There are tons of jobs which you can benefit yourself if you truly have skills and knowledge. For example, freelancer.com provides several remote projects for each specific skills. Many of my friends are working with that services and they do succeed
And when you have the balance income, try to invest your money on foreign asset, espcially online asset such as US stocks or cryptocurrency. They will help you to save your money, duplicate your capital and moreover, protect your funds from the government. I bet you can take care of yourself even though the situation can become worsen.
But dont worry, we will soon find the cure and soon, everything will be back to the way it was
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August 04, 2020, 09:37:36 AM |
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While this pandemic caught every Government worldwide off guard, and I feel disappointed on both the Government's response to this as compared to other ASEAN neighbors who had managed to slow down infections and at the same time, I also feel very disappointed to my fellow Filipinos who undermine Government's efforts to control this pandemic by not taking necessary precautions like observing social distancing, wearing face masks and doing proper hygiene as required.
The Philippines is not a rich country and this pandemic is taking a toll on its economy! In fact, we are already buried in foreign debts which I assume would have a long term negative impact on its economy unless there will be concrete and more effective actions that will be implemented by the Government together with the cooperation of its people to control this pandemic. Imho.
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August 04, 2020, 12:12:04 PM |
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(I am a Filipino citizen)
We have the worst Government in this time of Pandemic, It's not all about the President but the Government as a whole.
what can you say about our situation for being the worst and also as the leading country on ASEAN that has a high number of Covid Cases. It's been months already and yet, jnstead of recoveries we are getting most of it, and our economy is already falling. Or in other words, how will you react if you're one of us staying on the same country...
Not only the Philippines experienced that kind of situation almost all countries getting worst situations becuase of the pandemic. I am also a Filipino and I can say also that we are proud nowadays that we have a good government, a good leader who is vey helpful and concern about the real situation and feelings of every Filipino duting this time of Pandemic. All I can say is that we need to cooperate what the protocols given by the government because we will not win this fight when will not follow rules. We can do it, be a law abiding citizen! Yes. What happens today is just a reflection on how the people react to the situation. This corona virus pandemic would have not been worsen if only the people could have followed the protocols imposed by the government because this is the only way where we we can lessen the number of infected patients. The government itself has given already enough assistance for the citizens but we should not rely alone on the government to feed our hungry stomach. We should learn to work on our own as there are a lot of opportunities today that can save us from this pandemic.
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That barrier thing is
a total waste of money, imagine I buy it yesterday so we can finally ride it along with my wife, but now look at our policies, such a damn,... <...> I disagree with that barrier thing as well. It's said that they would allow to ride motorcycles but for husband and wife only or live-in partners provided that there is a barrier. I mean, what?! Those people are together inside their home and if their house is not that big enough, they cannot practice social distancing all the time. They're also wearing helmets and a mask inside it while riding the motorcycle. Plus, the Philippine Society of Mechanical Engineers have already provided calculations on how that barrier is dangerous and uneconomical. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) If Philippines is a YouTuber, it has a silver play button already. Ugh! When will this end? We all have same sentiments, those riders who understand the risk of this implemented laws regarding to motorcycle barriers. There are many lapses with this kind of rules, whoever design this and whoever created this bill are not riding motorcycles In the sense of protecting to prevent spreading the virus married couples are living together, they are together after riding it's the fact that most riders are keep trying to voice up with the government. I fully agree that this barrier will only endanger the life of this couples while riding around.
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August 04, 2020, 04:23:20 PM |
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(I am a Filipino citizen)
We have the worst Government in this time of Pandemic, It's not all about the President but the Government as a whole.
what can you say about our situation for being the worst and also as the leading country on ASEAN that has a high number of Covid Cases. It's been months already and yet, jnstead of recoveries we are getting most of it, and our economy is already falling. Or in other words, how will you react if you're one of us staying on the same country...
The reaction to the pandemic from most governments has been mistaken so this is not exclusive to the Philippines, we must understand that in a crisis of global scale like the one we are seeing anyone waiting for governments to fix it will have a rude awakening, it is up to each one of us to protect ourselves and our loved ones. In my country despite the huge number of cases people are outside acting as if nothing is happening and they look at me when I go out wearing a face mask but I do not care, if they do not want to protect themselves from the pandemic and the enormous economic crisis that is coming that is their problem I only wish that the government will not be as dumb as I believe it will as most likely we will see them going after the wealth of those that did well during the pandemic thanks to the precautions they got.
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August 04, 2020, 04:49:55 PM |
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That barrier thing is
a total waste of money, imagine I buy it yesterday so we can finally ride it along with my wife, but now look at our policies, such a damn,... MECQ in just 15days? what a joke, right? It would be more effective if we're back woth a Total Lockdown. I'd rather choose to get starve than to kill myself with that Covid. Our people re too dumb to realize that's why even aour government are also acting way too dumb. I've seen a lot of meme made out of that barrier thing and as much as I think that barrier that they have implemented my brain ticks a little of that stupid idea. Imagine having a barrier on a motorcycle with your wife, and we you got home you all are kissing each other, sleeping next to each other naked, the idea is a totally dumbfounding. And yeah, today is the first day of another modified enhanced community quarantine, one day without a gym seems to be boring to me. sucks. We really need to change the game plan to face this pandemic, the old one seems to be not working anymore as the day passes by and we getting out of money, if we they could have just returned the 15 billion pesos they have stolen from the Philhealth we could feed everyone for a day at least. Just wanna ask if it is only in the Philippines that we got ECQ, MECQ and other type of quarantine. I don't see any of them in other country ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Ozero
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August 04, 2020, 05:00:40 PM |
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That barrier thing is
a total waste of money, imagine I buy it yesterday so we can finally ride it along with my wife, but now look at our policies, such a damn,... MECQ in just 15days? what a joke, right? It would be more effective if we're back woth a Total Lockdown. I'd rather choose to get starve than to kill myself with that Covid. Our people re too dumb to realize that's why even aour government are also acting way too dumb. On the contrary, it seems to me that the situation with the spread of coronavirus and its danger to the world community is too exaggerated. If you look at the statistics, then even in car accidents, no fewer people die than from the coronavirus. Moreover, mostly people die not from coronavirus, but from various complications, that is, actually from other diseases. It is not the coronavirus that is killing the global economy, but too harsh measures to combat it. It seems to me more and more that this is being done intentionally.
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blockman
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August 04, 2020, 05:21:23 PM |
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As much as always, I'm supporting the initiatives of the government in this pandemic. I don't want to blame anyone or someone with what we're dealing with but I'm also disappointed how the officials are handling the situation. They have no clear strategic plan of tackling this virus, the economy somehow is good and recovering just like others but the combat of the virus is pretty dull. And on the other side of the political party, instead of helping, all they do is to criticize although criticisms are actually good if things aren't really going well. But as they criticize, they don't bring any solution, all they bring up are also problems. It's too bad that there's no unity. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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JuSayCo
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August 05, 2020, 08:14:42 AM Last edit: August 10, 2020, 07:15:30 AM by JuSayCo |
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This is absolutely worst now...the health frontliners are getting tired of the higher positive cases everyday. Living in this country at this strange time is so much risky because we can't rely everything to Government and the President just told lately that we are running out of budget and I can see that he is so tired too. And despite all this things, still corruption and other political issues are here and made the Filipino people suffer. I've been a law abiding citizen and as much as possible I want to help the Government by following all the safety protocol, but still...a lot of naughty people, so hard-headed scattered anywhere and others not even wearing a mask. So, how can we be able to flattened the curve if majority of the people don't take covid-19 seriously? Its really sad and i think Philippines will definitely drop down.
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