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July 31, 2020, 09:34:24 PM
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And if not, who wants to build such with me Wink?

(I mean .com, .org, .de and so on domains - sell and buy it without a 3rd party, maybe even whole webprojects incl. Content too? )

I am sure such platform will have much success.
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July 31, 2020, 10:18:49 PM
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integrating ICANN to be a blockchain is something only ICANN can implement

however. bitdns has had a blockchain for many years now
however the addresses can only be resolved to a specific host if you direct your broswer to use the bitdns as a dns service

meaning you cant just hold ICANN listed .orgs hostage using the normal native dns system.. but you can create your own TLD (toplevel domains) and listings on bitDNS and anyone using bitDNS compatible browsers can then see them sites contents when they type in those addresses

but in short.
unless you have control over ICANN you wont get far. even an native internet ISP offering a 'smartcontract' is not a true binding contract. thats fixed to a database forever. ican can just overrule native ISP access
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July 31, 2020, 11:23:47 PM
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Ah ok thx! So we need the full cooperation of the ICANN company / software, had to convince them to give us enough control over domains from which the owner has allowed us to change the property  if condition x is fulfilled? (sry for my bad english)
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August 01, 2020, 07:53:00 AM
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I didn't read Franky's post, as I have him on ignore, but it isn't ICANN that is the primary mover in the transfer, it is the registrar that holds the current lease agreement for the domain name. You can't cut him out of any transfer of ownership.

Unstoppable domains are trying to create an alternative system, but I'm not sure how this has developed. I did buy a name from them, but I haven't looked at it for a good few months.
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August 02, 2020, 12:03:06 AM
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I didn't read Franky's post, as I have him on ignore, but it isn't ICANN that is the primary mover in the transfer, it is the registrar that holds the current lease agreement for the domain name. You can't cut him out of any transfer of ownership.

Unstoppable domains are trying to create an alternative system, but I'm not sure how this has developed. I did buy a name from them, but I haven't looked at it for a good few months.

point of smart contracts is to have a actual contract unbreakable due to it being blockchain secured

yet jetcash is thinking of services that just accept cryptocurrency as payment for a domain(domain agents).

what jetcash doesnt realise is that even if you buy domains from go-daddy using crypto and imagine go-daddy had a blockchain instead of a database for its registry. they are just agents for ICANN where ICANN hold the ultimate list. ICANN can still revoke go-daddy from being a domain registrar service,whereby icann then just carry on using its normal database as it has always done

thus a true smart contract that is unbreakable has to apply to the top. not the middlemen
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August 02, 2020, 08:02:36 AM
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Thank you!

So basically icann has to change their database to a blockchain, otherwise its not possible to trade domains via smart contract? That is real 90ies-thinking ^^

Thus is there any alternativ? Like create its own new blockchain based domain system as .onion did? Obviously i am no expert but there has to a possibility, maybe even connected with a non cencorable new kind of internet?
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August 05, 2020, 10:14:31 AM
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Thank you!

So basically icann has to change their database to a blockchain, otherwise its not possible to trade domains via smart contract? That is real 90ies-thinking ^^

Thus is there any alternativ? Like create its own new blockchain based domain system as .onion did? Obviously i am no expert but there has to a possibility, maybe even connected with a non cencorable new kind of internet?

i already said that things like bitdns.. and yes onions exist, but they require borwser tweaks to look at different DNS services than normal. and that in itself is its flaw(regular internet users cant just access it without browser tweaks)

but if you want to trade traditional domains held on a traditional database. (the public internet domains managed by icann) then you need to get them to change their ways

you can try to become your own DNS like bitdns and onions where you get users to set their browsers to check those special dns services.. but then your just creating your own sub list of domains that are not accessible through the normal dns services linked to icann

your only option to avoid icann. is to become more popular and more accepted than the traditional system.. basically make icann system as irrelevant as myspace is to social media... . and obviously avoid having regulators shut down your system by employers browsers to stop linking to your service
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