Trump has declared that he’ll ban Tiktok over privacy concerns!!!

[Sendoku]

Lmao I don't like the reasons or logic behind his proposition, but I damn would like something like tik-tok and twitter to be eliminated

[TwitchySeal]

I guess he told microsoft he 'might let them buy tiktok in America, as long as it's separate from China'.

[suchmoon]

I guess he told microsoft he 'might let them buy tiktok in America, as long as it's separate from China'.

Selling it to Microsoft is a great idea - TikTok would be dead within a year, problem solved.

Sent From My Nokia 520.

[PrimeNumber7]

At one point Tic Tok was accessing the data in your phone's clipboard as frequently as every keystroke made in the App. It also has access to location data, such as where you are anytime you give the app access to your location.

The later can be used to figure out where you both work and live. Given that many people post videos having to do with your their occupation, TicTok can potentially be used to find locations of workplaces in various industries. It could also be used to measure economic activity, know where population centers are specifically.

The app also apparently collects much more data about your phone than most other social media apps collect. I am sure there are other privacy implications to this other data collection, both on an individual, and population level.

[Naida_BR]

He just wants to ban this app because it is Chinese.
Everything that comes from China gives Trump a headache and his moves just make China even stronger in the end and the US citizens start to turn their back on Trump's decisions.

[Rikafip]

[Spendulus]

Lmao I don't like the reasons or logic behind his proposition, but I damn would like something like tik-tok and twitter to be eliminated

Any app developer I am sure would be welcome to make a proposal to straighten out and correct their info-stealing-shit-app that they got caught on, and apologize for their commie level theft, and we could move forward as one big happy family.

[squatz1]

Heh, this is the funny part. We can compile your data because we're American companies, but TikTok can't because they're from a different country -- and with that, a bad bad red country.  In all honesty though, I do think that China is a plague on the world.

But Trump has now signaled that he will support the sale of TikTok to Microsoft, and the two companies have continued negotiating right now. As they had stopped negotiating when it seemed like the admin would block the sale of the company.

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

[suchmoon]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

[cabron]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

And Tiktok will notbe banned anymore after the sale because its not owned by MS. Right?

As if Microsoft hasn't have tons of issue regarding privacy. Tiktok had been around for years like facebook who blatantly collects data from its users, it seem pretty normal to get KYC today. Whether for tax or advertising purpose that they collect browsing habits, it had become a norm already by these companies.

[Botnake]

They should have ban it a long time ago... I believe the main reason was the competition against China, not really the app because they can't ban their own. Facebook leaked 419 million users data, this one should call for a ban..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/09/05/facebook-security-snafu-exposes-419-million-user-phone-numbers/#93474121ab7f

There will be no more DOGE pump if Tiktok is gone for most of us. 

[squatz1]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

And Tiktok will notbe banned anymore after the sale because its not owned by MS. Right?

As if Microsoft hasn't have tons of issue regarding privacy. Tiktok had been around for years like facebook who blatantly collects data from its users, it seem pretty normal to get KYC today. Whether for tax or advertising purpose that they collect browsing habits, it had become a norm already by these companies.

That would be the case, though Americans would be much happier with knowing that their data isn't leaving their own country of the US. As Microsoft servers would be hosted in America, and not sending info to China (as it is currently done by TikTok as of right now)

Privacy analysis of TikTok from someone online - https://rufposten.de/blog/2019/12/05/privacy-analysis-of-tiktoks-app-and-website/
Plain English Reddit Summary -

TikTok is sending data to both Facebook and Appsflyer, personal data and data about your device and content habits. Once it gets to Appsflyer, it could go to over 4500 affiliated companies that we don't know about.

On top of that, all this data (including fingerprints and audio, I think) is sent to TikTok headquarters in Beijing, in a non European country with less privacy laws.

While I do feel better with my data being in America, it would be very stupid of me to think that American companies have my best interest at heart when collecting my data. As we all know they're most likely just going to sell it to tons of others.

[akram143]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

And Tiktok will notbe banned anymore after the sale because its not owned by MS. Right?

As if Microsoft hasn't have tons of issue regarding privacy. Tiktok had been around for years like facebook who blatantly collects data from its users, it seem pretty normal to get KYC today. Whether for tax or advertising purpose that they collect browsing habits, it had become a norm already by these companies.

Almost every app collects data and that is not the problem, in China they have a rule where every app needs to give collected data if Chinese government asks for it, no more question and that has been highlighted as a main reason now for banning Chinese apps.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

And Tiktok will notbe banned anymore after the sale because its not owned by MS. Right?

As if Microsoft hasn't have tons of issue regarding privacy. Tiktok had been around for years like facebook who blatantly collects data from its users, it seem pretty normal to get KYC today. Whether for tax or advertising purpose that they collect browsing habits, it had become a norm already by these companies.

Almost every app collects data and that is not the problem, in China they have a rule where every app needs to give collected data if Chinese government asks for it, no more question and that has been highlighted as a main reason now for banning Chinese apps.

Indeed. Almost every applications we download in our devices like computers and smart phones collects data for app purposes, so I think we didn't have any chance to protect our personal data or information because we mostly input our full names, contact numbers, emails, credit/debit card numbers, and other personal informations.

[akram143]

^we uses most of the apps for free, but those companies are making millions and billions every year so basically they sell data for advertisement purpose but I doubt they will collect sensitive data like card details, if they do then almost everyone in the world will lose their savings on bank accounts.

[NotATether]

Tiktok should be banned as it's not secure and sells the information to China.

Here's the problem with this statement: Facebook, Twitter and most other western social media apps are also not secure (also since Tiktok is made by a chinese company, china already possesses it's data so I'm not sure what you mean when you said "sells the information to China"), but they are too essential and useful to a lot of people to be banned for poor security practices. China is also known to hack into western companies' IT infrastructure to get information and trade secrets so even if they don't sell it to China they'll just acquire it illegally. Facebook, Twitter et al wouldn't be banned on these grounds so there isn't much of a point to ban TikTok on them either. China will just find another way to market Tiktok to US users.

If this ban does happen I predict it's going to start another trade war with China just like the ban on Huawei last year.

[squatz1]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

Missed this in my reply before. But yeah, I'm totally not saying that Microsoft then ByteDance (parent company of TikTok). But in regards to US national policy, they would much rather have an American company have control of American data, rather then a Chinese company that could be beholdent to the Chinese government and COULD collect more data then usual.

Trump is now saying that he will ban TikTok if they're not bought by 'some company' by September 15th. People are speculating that the only company that could pass antitrust disputes over this particular issue is Microsoft. As the others of Facebook,Google, and Twitter are expected to not be able to pass through this same antitrust dispute.

[kemswag]

So far as we stay online, our privacy is compromised in a way. There could be a conspiracy on all these  accusations against Tittok. Most of these social media platforms are inclined to the USA government and it could be that there are plans to sabotage all the success of the platform.

[akram143]

Microsoft totally has the ability to work with the regulatory issues around TikTok, and they're a trusted name in the space.

Yeah they can share the knowledge how they get away with pretty much the same shit in Windows 10

Missed this in my reply before. But yeah, I'm totally not saying that Microsoft then ByteDance (parent company of TikTok). But in regards to US national policy, they would much rather have an American company have control of American data, rather then a Chinese company that could be beholdent to the Chinese government and COULD collect more data then usual.

Trump is now saying that he will ban TikTok if they're not bought by 'some company' by September 15th. People are speculating that the only company that could pass antitrust disputes over this particular issue is Microsoft. As the others of Facebook,Google, and Twitter are expected to not be able to pass through this same antitrust dispute.

Tiktok is demanding 50 billion dollars for giving the license to three countries from MS not sure it will be true or not but there are negotiating going on between them so microsoft is going to buy the tiktok for sure in the coming weeks.

[Coining26]

Banning an app just because you saw what you consider wrong and because you have the right isn't so justifiable. It's more like taking people's choice out of their hands, like they've got no free will, ate dummies and don't know any better.
It's more easier to publicize the menace that can arose from the use of the app rather than banning an app that haven't violated any laws except otherwise.

This is what I agree with. Instead of more freedom of speech/expression violations people should just get the word out about stuff such as this.