I'm seriously concerned about the money being stuffed down the vaccine toilet.

[Jet Cash]

It seems that the US is about to give many millions of dollars to camera companies like Kodak and FujiFilm to manufacture useless vaccines. It seems almost impossible that there wil ever be a safe vaccine, and certainly not one that is superior to natural immunity. The vaccine industry has become a money toilet, and, whilst some of the money may be aerosolised  and find its way to the people, most of it will join the brown trout in the banking sewage system. This money is desperately needed to repair damaged infrastructure, and restore small businesses to increase employment.

The resources being soaked up by the banking virus sideline, are being taken from mainstream research projects such as cancer, heart disease and insulin resistance.

How can we stop the mania, and try to rebuild our economies for the good of the people.

[Upgrade00]

The news seemed to have caused the spike in the stocks of Kodak as it experienced an over 200% surge over the last couple of days;


There are also rumours of a leak before the news was made public and insider trading going on, some of that was discussed on this Reddit post
What's also odd is it was reported that were contracted to produce pharmaceutical ingredients including hydroxychloroquine; a drug whose potency has been disputed for so long.

[franky1]

It seems that the US is about to give many millions of dollars to camera companies like Kodak and FujiFilm to manufacture useless vaccines. It seems almost impossible that there wil ever be a safe vaccine, and certainly not one that is superior to natural immunity. The vaccine industry has become a money toilet, and, whilst some of the money may be aerosolised  and find its way to the people, most of it will join the brown trout in the banking sewage system. This money is desperately needed to repair damaged infrastructure, and restore small businesses to increase employment.

The resources being soaked up by the banking virus sideline, are being taken from mainstream research projects such as cancer, heart disease and insulin resistance.

How can we stop the mania, and try to rebuild our economies for the good of the people.

1. its a loan not a grant(but yea they can declare bankruptcy maybe later on)
2. kodak are not making vaccines.

3. funny how you think that this LOAN money is needed fr small businesses. when small businesses have had access to loans since march

4. funny how you care less about health and care more about business/economy.
sounds like you are a tax loving conservative that doesnt want money spent on healthcare and instead handed to business owners.

is your current mindset the same mindset you had since a few years ago. or one thats been spoonfed to you by the conspiracy sites that pretend to be all about caring/health. while instead sounding more capitalist eugenic in their preferences
EG this is what you sound like
if your healthy go lick a sick person and get sick, dont go to a doctor for any treatment, instead buy stock in some random business to boost the economy and then pay your taxes for the benefit of the businesses

[Charles-Tim]

The world is so much focusing on advance pharmaceutical medicine, leaving traditional ones aside. In the past were strong immunity, the immune system were stronger than today. Normally microorganisms that were mutating and dangerous were still fought potently by the body immune system in the past unlike now,  our immunity is likely to have reduced than before. There are many other things to consider like the modern era emitted smokes and gases, the food we intake, and many other things.

The world governments should also focus on traditional medicine, and also try to tell population how to avoid what can reduce immunity, instead of only focusing on advanced pharmaceutical medicine.

[franky1]

our immune system is better now than before
100 years ago people actually died of measles. now they dont
average life expectancy has increased from 35 to 75.
yep we were not healither 100 years ago
instead 100 years ago we relied on religion and respect to just avoid risks.
for instance. no sex until marraige to avoid STI's and HIV
(oops did you not know the bible abolished gays and marriage outside of wedlock purely due to STI epidemics)
people had hankerchiefs on them all the time. it was not for decoration. it was for purpose. same with wearing gloves the victorian era loved wearing gloves
..
(oops did you not realise the practical use of hankerchiefs and gloves 100+ years ago)


anyway
its not a thing of a vaccine turns off the immune system or dampens it.
it actually trains the immune system to recognise and handle the infection without the dangerous part of a multiplying virus that bursts cells open and causes damage/harm

a few people feel that the lack of cells bursting open means that its not triggering 'secondary' immune response which is to send in the 'tanks' that blast infected cells with macrophages and cause cell death as the last resort
but this secondary response. is what causes damage and death.
by having the immune system trained safely, the first defense immune response can do its job. people can then recover/get over it before cell damage.
meaning before symptoms or with low grade symptoms.

vaccines do not dampen the immune system
vaccines do not kill the second stage macrophages. they dont deconstruct the factory that makes the macrophages. they just win the battle before calling in the macrophages.
its still there its just not called into action because people are getting better and the battle is won on the first round

thinking that people should go through the macrophage stage is stupidly a scheme of wanting people to get cell damage and long term harm and suffer.
thats not even logical or practical or even good advice.

the best advice is to get low dose infected or getting a vaccine or avoiding infection if super high risk.. so by doing so there is not much of a battle to fight and if low dose/vaccinated it trains your frontline troops how to recognise an invasion before it even strikes.

idiots that think people should get sick and have cell damage everytime they are infected by anything are the idiots that want people to die

..
people think that a vaccine .. using a computer analogy. is a new antivirus software thats added and changes the hard drive of a computer to then recognise a virus..
no

a vaccine is a copy of a virus. where the destructive command and the copy/paste file command is removed from the virus.
so when you computer does its normal file scan. it recognises a file that should not be there. and learns the filename and certain properties to look out for. so that it can quicksearch it better later

then when the destructive file of same filename/properties gets on the system. the computer already knows what to look out for and handles it before its had chance to fully download

a vaccine does not put its own antivirus program to replace the built in antivirus program
it just tells the preexisting natural antivirus software on the system what to look outfor

a vaccine does not destroy the recyclebin or the defrag or the or the restore point.
yes you may notice the recycle bin is empty more often. you may notice you dont have to defrag as much and you dont have to restore pc as much.. this is a good thing

[Vod]

(oops did you not know the bible abolished gays and marriage outside of wedlock purely due to STI epidemics)

They wouldn't have known that STIs spread by sex back then...   

The immune system is like a muscle - the more you use it, the stronger it gets.  Vaccines exercise the immune system. 

[franky1]

They wouldn't have known that STIs spread by sex back then...  

actually they did

when someone with warts gave it to someone else and they were on their genitals.. it kinda reveals how it was passed.
same with 'crabs'

when they have 'coldsores' (herpies) on their mouth but no one else eating the same diet has it then its not the food. but then finding out that person gives blowjobs to loophole the non penetrative sex clause. then they again find out its genital transmitted

also when gay roman soldiers mingled amungst many people but only had sex with particular guys. the could work out thats its not transmitted through handshakes if only the sexual partners got it

yes back then they knew about diseases and said to follow 'gods' rules to avoid diseases
when calling those who have random sex, unclean. not treating body like a temple, impure
who wil be 'smitted' by disease and death.. well thats saying in modern language. have random unprotected sex and youll get an STD
..
i know you might think that 2000 years ago people were cave dwellers
but did you know that math, writing and even alot of civilised stuff existed
not just making pyramids or colosseums but also having things like bars, hotels, barns, houses. heck they even had a census

..
now think how to implement a government rule with punishment/concequence but without having civilians riot/revolt against the government.
pretend a ghost that no one can see or touch made the rule and the 'government' are just the messengers.
and boom instant laws without the riots/revolts. cant attack what you cant see

here endeth thy history lesson

[Vod]

How can we stop the mania, and try to rebuild our economies for the good of the people.

Don't you think Kodak and FujiFilm pay their employees who go out and spend that money in the community?

[gorge441]

LOL...you are funny 

[Gozie51]

(oops did you not know the bible abolished gays and marriage outside of wedlock purely due to STI epidemics)

  lol but I have a different view to why the bible frowns at gay marriage.

1. Because it doesn't lead to procreation. Meaning a man can not impregnate a follow man by ejaculation, neither would a woman be able to do so too.

2. God created all animal in male and female for purpose of procreation and sexual satisfaction.

3. It is immoral and not biblical because in creation, God created male and female and mandated them to be fruitful. Genesis 1: 27-28

[franky1]

(oops did you not know the bible abolished gays and marriage outside of wedlock purely due to STI epidemics)

  lol but I have a different view to why the bible frowns at gay marriage.

1. Because it doesn't lead to procreation. Meaning a man can not impregnate a follow man by ejaculation, neither would a woman be able to do so too.

2. God created all animal in male and female for purpose of procreation and sexual satisfaction.

3. It is immoral and not biblical because in creation, God created male and female and mandated them to be fruitful. Genesis 1: 27-28

no. humans created the ancient lawbook known as the bible. but wrote it into nice camp fire stories that are rememberable and have some moral story attached to explain why.
if humans just wanted procreation then rapes would not be treated as a bad thing. sex outside of marriage would be acceptable too

humans created these rules to create a civilisation. but because previous religions where people followed actual humans proclaiming to be gods (egyptians) this time the rule makers made up a 'god' that no one can see or question or rebel against so that the human rule makers cant be attacked because 'dont kill the messenger' and instead to treat the messenger well by feeding them clothing them and giving them anything they ask for..
kinda funny how many people have not figured this out

take bitcoin. mystery man making something great that cant be attacked gets success in something that lasts
another person that makes an altcoin gets constant abuse and attacks

but anyway
its not about just procreation. its about survival of the species by staying away from things that can lead to harm

[paxmao]

If there was ever a good way of spending money, that has been trying to find a reasonably effective vaccine for COVID. It is fine if you would rather not have it yourself, but there are millions who will and you will get the freeride.

no. humans created the ancient lawbook known as the bible. but wrote it into nice camp fire stories that are rememberable and have some moral story attached to explain why.
if humans just wanted procreation then rapes would not be treated as a bad thing. sex outside of marriage would be acceptable too

There is a biological reason why there are two progenitors.

[franky1]

If there was ever a good way of spending money, that has been trying to find a reasonably effective vaccine for COVID. It is fine if you would rather not have it yourself, but there are millions who will and you will get the freeride.

no. humans created the ancient lawbook known as the bible. but wrote it into nice camp fire stories that are rememberable and have some moral story attached to explain why.
if humans just wanted procreation then rapes would not be treated as a bad thing. sex outside of marriage would be acceptable too

There is a biological reason why there are two progenitors.

and before 200AD (before the bible) people existed
and yet they were lots of happy gays/bisexuals
after 200AD they had to come up with new ways to prevent disease so they made up camp fire stories about some magic man that heals all illnesses if you follow his rules or get smited by illness/death if you dont

kinda funny how christianity is now ok about gays and condoms right at the same few years HIV and STI medication became easily available

[paxmao]

The best thing about negationists is that they will eventually exclude themselves from humanity´s gene pool.

RE gays and other, I am not saying there´s anything wrong with that. It is just that most individuals tend to procreate in couples or in extended families until children reach certain age, and that there are biological reasons for that choice.

[Jet Cash]

The best thing about negationists is that they will eventually exclude themselves from humanity´s gene pool.

But they are the ones that aren't becoming ill, and if they aren't ill, they can't spread the Kung 'flu virus, so their friends and progeny are not going to be sick. The whole point of Bill Gates vaccine programme is to make people ill, and thus reduce the population.

[franky1]

im really concerned about the time being wasted stuffing nonsense into jetcashes head.

if only he spend less time on conspiracy site. he would have soo much spare time to find facts

[MOB]

fiat is not real, so why would you be "seriously concerned" that some imaginary money is changing hands out there? Could it be possibly used more effectively in pursuit of a vaccine? Sure, but that doesn't seem what you are saying.

Fiat isn't a zero-sum game like BTC is. Isn't that why many of us came to crytpo-land in the first place? You seem to be forgetting that basic fact. You can waste fiat on vaccines, endless war, and still have enough to build infrastructure. That we don't build it (in the US) is because politically we don't demand it, not because we can't magic some more trillions into exist via J Powell.

[franky1]

what jetcash doesnt realise is that governments can easily write off their own debt or convert to a new currency and then just make old currency and thus old debt contracts measured in old currency. obsolete.

yep governments can create a law with 'newpounds' where for 5 months its swapped 1:1
and then at month 6 after giving everyone a chance to have converted.. make it
 that 5 nowpounds are worth 5,000,0000,000 old pounds and make the debt of the whole last 15 years become the price of a 32" TV. because old debt contracts are measured and contracted to repay in old debt currency

so the world will not collapse if there is 'government debt'.
writing off debt can hurt UK's 'credit rating with world bank.. so at very worse they can be pushed out of world credit. well if you dont want debt anymore then you wont want to be in a world credit scheme. then you just create your own pounds without giving a crap about the world credit

so relax your little head. dont worry about UK pound economy.

[Porfirii]

Don't you worry, money is never stuffed down... a few investors and some other actors will benefit from your taxes in the worst-case scenario

Hey! it is still better than spending it on war or massive surveillance.

[Smartvirus]

What a damage the coronavirus have done for the world. We have become so confused that we can't tell the difference between our left from our right or where to place our priorities. It's so obvious. Governments of nations, institutes, organizations have spent more in trying to provide solution for this pandemic but all efforts seem to be laid bare. It's obvious the we are yet to receive the heat from this supplux out of budget spending once we get to start living with this thing which most of us are already doing and it almost feel like, there is no Covid19 amongst us no more.
Evolution has always been known to take care of situations like this if what science tells us is really through so, let's learn to live with it in respect to it's guidelines and hope for the best. Perhaps in time our bodies would emerge natural immunity towards this pandemic coupled with the available researchers done to even better it.
Mr. Trump was declared not to be contagious by the white houses data, what's the trick?
What's the rest of the world missing or not getting?
The whole pandemic thing still remains a course of wonder!