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August 01, 2020, 04:46:04 PM
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

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August 01, 2020, 06:36:20 PM
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

You can of course patent it and you should do so, if you think it's a great new game/style. As a single, private person it won't be easy to stop people from copying it and you would have to have some money at hand to pay lawyers etc., but legally you can sue and stop them. I guess you will spend a lot of time in court though, if it's some revolutionary new game Cheesy

For a start I would go to a patent office and apply for it and I would suggest an international/world-wide patent for this matter. And maybe some lawyer to help you with the paperwork Smiley

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Not every gambling game can be patented I tried to Google some information but there are few keywords that can solve the queries
if this is online gaming or gambling it should have something that addresses the solution of specific technical problems  

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All applications that include technical aspects are patentable only if they are new and put forward an innovative solution/idea. This means that inventions that have to do with computer programs must have a technical character so they can be patented. If they are using technical means to address the solution of a specific technical problem, then these computer programs are considered patentable

There is a word of notice also

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Word of Notice: Patents in the online gambling industry can be used to protect some elements. However, one of the main issues for the majority of developers is piracy and the fact that some other elements of their creations can be easily replicated without anyone facing any consequences. It is amazing how small changes in a handful of elements can allow a developer to use the same theme and features under a different name.

So with this they can replicated it without any legal issues.

More on this article
https://brela-tz.org/patents-in-the-casino-industry/


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August 02, 2020, 02:06:51 AM
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It'd probably be better if you asked someone that was in the field of the law, anyone, that you know to guarantee it's legit and true. Especially since introducing a patent for a new game needs a lot of crossing of information since it needs to check if you're game infringes on the copyright of other games and if a lawsuit was filed, then you'd probably have a huge burden in your hands.

You could probably follow the normal steps in applying for a patent, looked it up, and found this:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/getting-patent-yourself-29493.html

After that, you can consult a person in the legal field to ensure you're not really missing anything. Also, it seems like patenting costs quite a bit of money, A new invention of a card game can rangge from $5000 to $12000. Might not be a useful reference though since it is a card game, but well, it's an example. Found it here:
https://patentrebel.com/can-you-patent-a-card-game-answered/

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August 02, 2020, 02:24:41 AM
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Not every gambling game can be patented I tried to Google some information but there are few keywords that can solve the queries
if this is online gaming or gambling it should have something that addresses the solution of specific technical problems  

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All applications that include technical aspects are patentable only if they are new and put forward an innovative solution/idea. This means that inventions that have to do with computer programs must have a technical character so they can be patented. If they are using technical means to address the solution of a specific technical problem, then these computer programs are considered patentable

There is a word of notice also

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Word of Notice: Patents in the online gambling industry can be used to protect some elements. However, one of the main issues for the majority of developers is piracy and the fact that some other elements of their creations can be easily replicated without anyone facing any consequences. It is amazing how small changes in a handful of elements can allow a developer to use the same theme and features under a different name.

So with this they can replicated it without any legal issues.

More on this article
https://brela-tz.org/patents-in-the-casino-industry/

Aside from that, to clarify also your questions not answered by online sources, you can visit or call your local Patent Office.
They can explain more of what to do specific with your case. But don't forget to contact a Patent Attorney from your area.
Yes, there is dedicated lawyer for that, so basically it is easy to communicate with them with what you want because that's their specialization.
If you are having difficulty in finding one, you can contact your local Patent Office and ask for assistance. Without a doubt, they have contacts for those lawyers.
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Of course, you may apply a patent for it. I don't know where you're from but there must be a local patent bureau which is designated to accept applications for protection of their intellectual properties by way of a patent.

Please be reminded, though, that patents expire after a couple of decades more or less. Moreover, a patent is different from a trademark. A patent in this regard is to be applied for your newly-invented game but the trademark could be applied for the name of your app or your site or your brand which might launch that game in the future.

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As in the above quote one can go apply for patent with the respective bureau organised by every country with specific terms and conditions. I don't think it can be patented with the purpose of gambling. Maybe a game can be innovated and patented. This patented game can be further used into gambling.

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August 02, 2020, 10:02:08 AM
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?


I don't think you would be able to protect your new gambling idea and game. The only advantage is that you will be first to introduce that gambling idea and if it is interesting, you can make good profit from it.  Even if you patent it, other gambling casino will copy the idea and come up with the same thing but with another name.
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It's possible but it's not easy. My country has a intellctual property office where a person or a company can apply and protect the patent, trademark or similar. Since this is in EU, once you protect it It's valid in every EU member state. However, that doesn't mean that others will not try to copy you.
So, basicly the whole procedure depends on the country you live in.

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It's possible but it's not easy. My country has a intellctual property office where a person or a company can apply and protect the patent, trademark or similar. Since this is in EU, once you protect it It's valid in every EU member state. However, that doesn't mean that others will not try to copy you.
So, basicly the whole procedure depends on the country you live in.

Probably it is more applicable in a physical casino rather than online one. Even if  you get a patent you cannot stop other gambling sites from using it and it is hard to take legal action for a site located online and operated outside of your country.









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August 02, 2020, 02:36:42 PM
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?


It all depends on the country where you live. Not in all countries you can patent the rules and mechanics of the game. For example, this cannot be done in Russia and India. However, even there, intellectual property lawyers find loopholes how to do this. In the US, you can patent the rules and mechanics of the game, so it will be much easier to do this there.
You need to find a good intellectual property lawyer and consult with them.
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August 02, 2020, 03:57:59 PM
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Thank you all for your comments, since I am based in EU I will try to look furthermore the current situation in my country/EU.
If anyone has some specific example (or a practical way to operate) please feel free to reply to my topic.

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August 02, 2020, 11:15:04 PM
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Not every gambling game can be patented I tried to Google some information but there are few keywords that can solve the queries
if this is online gaming or gambling it should have something that addresses the solution of specific technical problems  

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All applications that include technical aspects are patentable only if they are new and put forward an innovative solution/idea. This means that inventions that have to do with computer programs must have a technical character so they can be patented. If they are using technical means to address the solution of a specific technical problem, then these computer programs are considered patentable

There is a word of notice also

Well we can't patent anything that already exist and possibly already patented.  It is obvious that the patent office will only allow those that are new or innovative.

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Word of Notice: Patents in the online gambling industry can be used to protect some elements. However, one of the main issues for the majority of developers is piracy and the fact that some other elements of their creations can be easily replicated without anyone facing any consequences. It is amazing how small changes in a handful of elements can allow a developer to use the same theme and features under a different name.

So with this they can replicated it without any legal issues.

More on this article
https://brela-tz.org/patents-in-the-casino-industry/

Possible there is modification on the program or feature of the gambling games.  It will never be considered pirating since the program itself is different from the original even though it originated from other's idea.  The thing is even the idea that was patented is also derived from an older idea but was just modified.  So yes, it is fair for the latter modified replica to be exempted from  any consequences.

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August 02, 2020, 11:46:13 PM
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You could try and create a trademark but these are only granting you protection for 10 years or so and are also region-restricted. All and all it's just too much effort to try and get one and you rarely see any such efforts being put for a gambling website that is new. Especially if its a startup, they usually try to invest in having a good platform and having the firs comer advantage other than trademarking as their first step. Other than that, the logo of a company could very well fall under copyright. So with copyright you don't need to apply. You just get it by publicizing your work first. I think that's much better than having to go through an application.

So long story short, better just build a brand name by being innovative.

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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Better to ask someone with authority maybe a lawyer and I think you need to register that game under your company or your name so that it will not be steal by anyone. But in terms of games that is being launch in the web I think there will be another way. But also you need to be sure that the game you are about to work or create is also not yet available in the market.

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August 03, 2020, 04:16:21 AM
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Better to ask someone with authority maybe a lawyer and I think you need to register that game under your company or your name so that it will not be steal by anyone. But in terms of games that is being launch in the web I think there will be another way. But also you need to be sure that the game you are about to work or create is also not yet available in the market.
I agree with this because we don't know what the procedure is in every country, and I think there is a different method to patent the product. Besides that, the @OP is from the EU. At least, we can visit a lawyer who knows about patent/trademark or else so we can know the right answer because the new gambling games that we want to be patent can be used in physical casinos or online casinos.

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This article could probably help, but this are applicable for US patents.

If you will use contents, characters with public domains, it could probably be copied, but if the content, structure and gameplay is unique, these are the games that will be available to be patented.


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August 03, 2020, 09:25:17 AM
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I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

I assume that you can go to a Patent and Trademark Office in order to protect your idea about your game. This will somehow prevent others to use your idea to make money. However, as an individual, there will be a lot of stuff to do if someone steals your idea, especially when you're idea has a tremendous impact on the gambling industry. The money will need to be spent to hire lawyers and the better the lawyer, the higher chance you will win the suing. Also, you can cooperate with a gambling company because you will have a better opportunity to spread your game widely and worldwide.

We are living in the 4.0 industry world and because of that, the patent is extremely important. A single idea can easily be stolen and used to benefits themselves. Moreover, they can earn a huge amount of money with that stolen design. Therefore, try your best to protect what truly belongs to you

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August 03, 2020, 11:31:23 AM
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If you invent new methods/technology that useful to the gaming industry, you can patent it (and use the tech name as your trademark) just like Megaways (tm).
Big Time Gaming earn lots of money by licensing its patent.

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August 03, 2020, 11:34:47 AM
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Any intellectual idea can be patented if it is legally registered as a property of a person or an organization. However, if it is an idea of an online casino, with the use of cryptocurrency, I do not know if it would be the same situation. As we all know, not all government globally are pleased with cryptocurrencies. But, when it comes to the gaming industry, I think they do have different approach with this.

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