New Gambling idea - How it can be "patented"?

[erikoy]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Yes it could done but you can optionally credit the game and the owner you want to patent. But, there are other games that are a little bit similar just like DOTA2 it actually originate from war craft, and ML is same as strategic mobile game like DOTA2, Crossfire, PUB, CALL OF DUTY and others are just like the old game but still alive in esports the Counter strike but there could be older than those games and just being patented also.

Well it is up to you just do not copy everything like names, the interface and gameplay. Just make your own.

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[Kakmakr]

You know the cost of patenting intellectual property is going to cost you a lot of money, so I hope your idea is going to be awesome for you to cover the patent costs.

" The average cost to patent an idea using an attorney is between $6,000 to $12,000 with overall prices ranging from $900 if you file yourself, up to $16,900 depending on the complexity of the invention. " - Source : https://thervo.com/costs/how-much-does-a-patent-cost

$5,000 – $8,000 Simple Idea
$8,000 – $12,000 Average Idea
$12,000 – $16,000 Complex Idea

https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2018/11/17/protecting-idea-can-ideas-be-patented/id=103389/  - According to this you cannot patent an idea, but you can have Copyright on material that has been produced by yourself. 

[aioc]

If the idea is new and unique it can be patented any works can be patented but knowing here only only it can modified to make it appear that the work is new but at least if you patented it you have a legal claim to your work and you will have a chance in any legal battle if your work is copied and you want to make a claim of infringement.

[Little Mouse]

There are solution of blockchain based program too. There are some projects with blockchain notarization
. DeepVault, Signature Chain are two of them. It's easy to register your file there, within a fee clicks. The question is how much acceptance will it get? I think not so much but still you have something to proof.

[MCobian]

Of course everything can be patented, including new gambling ideas. First you have to find a lawyer to help with paperwork matters.
And make sure copyright applies internationally, so if someone uses your gambling idea. You can sue legally,because you will have
legality. But things like this certainly require a large enough cost.

[bitbollo]

since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

[semobo]

Literally you can patent any new idea and the whole outcome as two different things, for inside your country and for the whole world.If it is an online game then getting patent in your country has no use and while international it is hard to acquire one to be honest and even if you did then it is easy to change few things and can develop the same idea in new form then can be placed on sites to play.

[avikz]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Trademark and patent are completely two different things. But here you will need both. Patent for the idea and trademark for the name. This way you can protect your interest.

I will suggest you to get in touch with patent lawyers of your country. Just try to google with this keyword and you will receive plenty of them. They will help you to prepare your documentation. Please note, it usually takes 4-6 months of time to process your patent application.

Finally, always execute a NDA with the lawyer along with indemnity clause before you start expressing your ideas to them!

Hope this helps!

[yazher]

As in the above quote one can go apply for patent with the respective bureau organised by every country with specific terms and conditions. I don't think it can be patented with the purpose of gambling. Maybe a game can be innovated and patented. This patented game can be further used into gambling.

I agreed, it can be copied by someone else and innovated some rules and changed the name of the game. Like for example soccer and lacrosse these two games have almost the same looks but have different rules. Also there are many more examples you can find out there. In this way, they don't have to worry about copy righted materials. they just need your idea for them to create something almost the same games.

Lacrosse



Soccer

[Mumbeeptind1963]

Trademark and patent are completely two different things. But here you will need both. Patent for the idea and trademark for the name. This way you can protect your interest.

I will suggest you to get in touch with patent lawyers of your country. Just try to google with this keyword and you will receive plenty of them. They will help you to prepare your documentation. Please note, it usually takes 4-6 months of time to process your patent application.

Finally, always execute a NDA with the lawyer along with indemnity clause before you start expressing your ideas to them!

Hope this helps!

I agree! but I think sometimes it takes a year it depends on the amount of patented nearly similar to his idea and also if it has a unique name for it ( this is also very needed ), as long as it is very unique and he has all the documents needed, no need to worry about being patented for months, OP will get the patent certificate and the trademark name. Better to develop now, and there is some free sites to check the patent.

[Rengga Jati]

I am not good at this kind of regulation. But, should you patent a New Gambling game? Do you plan to make that kind of gaming?
Well, I directly browsed the information about this and  only found these following:
http://grochowski.casinocitytimes.com/article/can-you-patent-a-gambling-game-62628
https://patentyogi.com/american-inventor/patents-effective-online-gambling/

I do not know exactly whether the ways to patent the gambling game should be globally or locally in your country. You may also search for the information in your country whether it is legal or not, any law about it or not.

[South Park]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Laws change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction so it is better that you consult a lawyer, however what is it the state of this idea you are talking about? If it is just an idea and you have not developed anything then it is unlikely you are going to get any kind of patent, however if you have developed code in order to make that idea a reality then you will be taken more seriously and you could get patents for certain aspects of your game, still make sure to consult a lawyer just to be sure about this.

[fiulpro]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

First you have to understand how patent right works , you have to check with the Government of your country then register your game or whatever you have thought about it , before anything you have to prove them that it's indeed different and worth the whole process.

Therefore you first have to design the idea and make sure you stay hidden and no one is involved with it since it's very easy for people to take your idea and label it as theirs.

You have to go to certified agencies in your own country .

But am not sure if you would be able to do it right now , since due to Pandemic most of the business are down , you have to wait , the process is long but it does have a lot of benefits for the long term .

You can even go to quick patent companies which actually register your patent for a price.

However, industry experts estimate that obtaining a patent on a “simple” invention (like a paper clip or a coat hanger) can total anywhere from $5,000 to $7,000. A patent on a complicated piece of software may cost $15,000 or more.Aug 2, 2017

[JackpotRacer]

since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Hello my friend

this is the best place to get answers for your questions. Very fine members there and really experts regarding your question
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/

stay safe

[ryzaadit]

Just used information or term as "Bustabit" when some new casino who using their source code not making any permission or partnership with them. Then, they will mark that casino was not trusty at all. Can't really handle about these, because we are on internet role model business everyone could be using the same design or maybe game as from other casino.

[bitbollo]

since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Hello my friend

this is the best place to get answers for your questions. Very fine members there and really experts regarding your question
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/

stay safe

Thank you so much mate I take a quick look but it seems a very useful place to gather information .
Just for sake of curiosity, when you launched your site did you "protected" in a some way some aspect of your site/games/ or registered your trademark?

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because we are on internet role model business everyone could be using the same design or maybe game as from other casino.

I want avoid at most, such situation... at least for a while. Or try to protect the idea from other cheap clones
Moreover this idea is more similar to a game like "fantasy football" it means that anyone can try to play with friends... even off line or in a different scenario/platform. This is why I ask for trademark protection.
Obviously playing with "Original" platform will be more easy and profitable!

[mezzaluna]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Well, patenting ideas have certain requirements. I don't know if those requirements change within different countries but there are three main requirements when you are applying for a Patent.

First, if the idea is unique or new in the current situation. Second, will it be for a greater good for certain communities? Third, is it available for mass adoption or development in future recommendations plus its marketability. This are the three requirements that were taught to us when we are applying for a patent and I guess it would also work for ideas like Gambling games as long as its new and unique.

[JackpotRacer]

since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Hello my friend

this is the best place to get answers for your questions. Very fine members there and really experts regarding your question
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/game-inventors/

stay safe

Thank you so much mate I take a quick look but it seems a very useful place to gather information .
Just for sake of curiosity, when you launched your site did you "protected" in a some way some aspect of your site/games/ or registered your trademark?

I did not do any trademark or patent cause IMO it was not worth the pain and money. Just register in the forum I gave you the link and ask your question there. I am sure you will get a lot of very good and helpful answers even you want it maybe only to be secured for europe.

good luck

[sabotag3x]

I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..

[famososMuertos]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

Ideas are not patented. Its originality and the result of its use and applications, if.

So you must do it quickly before someone else comes up with it. But keep in mind that software patents are very limited.

Basically to technologically feasible ideas in an entertainment-oriented application, for example a game, they use brand protection, things like characters, names, create something called brand usage licenses, etc.

The "ideas" usually fall under something called intellectual property law. But still, there must be something to back it up, there must be something that indicates that you had that idea before anyone else.

Something you can do, but it is a major investment, register or license everything surrounding your idea with that game, even with the name, those things can get licenses, but I assure you it is not cheap, licenses can take you to the ruin and not make a profit, but they help you get use rights, because the law supports you in intellectual property rights. But this requires an administrative investment of time and money.

Remember also that licenses at a global level are even more expensive, all this gives you a vision that it is not how important or novel to have a new idea, but how much capital you have to execute it and make it profitable.

There are other ways, develop an APP, register a company that gives you more power to control the game and its profits ... but for the low average you must have at least $ 70,000 to $ 100,000.

If you trust your idea and it is really new, do not stop trying it, but one must also realize how much an idea is really feasible to have success.