New Gambling idea - How it can be "patented"?

[target]

since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

Protecting it will not last long. There had been many patented products in the past that will just not used in the end all because of patent. Somehow the innovative thinking of entreprenuers will be able to discover the idea.

There is always going to be someone out there going to copy just about anything they can find. I have no idea about this fantasy-football but if you have a game run by code then perhaps registering it as opensource will be a better option for more people will be able to help improved it but will still recognize your work as well.

[Renampun]

I'm not too sure but I think you will be very difficult to make a patented on a new gamble...
Patents are usually used to protect ideas or intellectual property, but for gambling, I don't think you can patent it, maybe you can do a search on Google about any ideas that can be submitted for patented.

[bitbunnny]

I'm not too sure but I think you will be very difficult to make a patented on a new gamble...
Patents are usually used to protect ideas or intellectual property, but for gambling, I don't think you can patent it, maybe you can do a search on Google about any ideas that can be submitted for patented.

I think it's possible. If it's completely new idea, new work of author it could be protected as intellectual property. I don't know the details about that gambling idea but all kinds of intellectual works can be protected. Maybe patent is not quite correct term but I think that is worth checking the possibilities how to protect this and under what conditions is possible.

[DarkDays]

You're not going to be able to patent it unless it is sufficiently novel, and you've got highly detailed technical descriptions of how the system would work, including the code that would make it run.

If it's just an idea, you've got absolutely no hope of even getting a trademark.

Though the rules for obtaining a patent vary by country, they're almost always quite stringent—especially if you want a universally recognized one. Here's the rules for getting a patent in the United States:

https://www.bitlaw.com/patent/requirements.html

"- The invention must be statutory (subject matter eligible)
- The invention must be new
- The invention must be useful
- The invention must be non-obvious"

If it doesn't meet these criteria, give up now.

[Shasha80]

To my knowledge in general there are several subjects that can be patented, namely technology, machinery and pharmacy.
Besides that cannot be patented, moreover ideas and concepts cannot be patented. Maybe I think the new gambling idea
you mean can not be patented, but to be more confident and not the wrong step first consultation with a lawyer is the
right step.

[FontSeli]

since this is not my area of expertise I decide to ask some opinions about it.

I mean fantasy-football has registered just the gaming structure/trademark.
well, the most important idea for me it's to protect this innovation. Feel free to propose/suggest some solution.

What could be the simple way to "protect" it? What could be the simple and easy way to have the paternity (and a sort of legal protection) about an idea launched online?
I don't know exactly if this can be defined "an innovation" this game. I have no idea about money involved/required.

You need to start with the simplest. You must decide in which country or countries you want to have your intellectual property protected. Because different countries may have very different ways of registering intellectual property rights. This way you can get a more accurate answer.

[Mauser]

I'm not too sure but I think you will be very difficult to make a patented on a new gamble...
Patents are usually used to protect ideas or intellectual property, but for gambling, I don't think you can patent it, maybe you can do a search on Google about any ideas that can be submitted for patented.

I think it's possible. If it's completely new idea, new work of author it could be protected as intellectual property. I don't know the details about that gambling idea but all kinds of intellectual works can be protected. Maybe patent is not quite correct term but I think that is worth checking the possibilities how to protect this and under what conditions is possible.

I am not sure if this is really possible. There are already so many games around in casinos, non of them are really patented. So creating a hole new game now which is not a variation out of any existing game you might be able to patent it, but the chances are so unlucky. I would assume that any good lawyer will find some small similiarities which would allow others to copy your game.

My suggestion try not to protect your idea from others. Make sure you are the first one out there to actually do it. If you don't have a casino yourself yet, maybe try to get into a cooperation with an exisiting casino so they would provide you with a great platform and already a huge gambler base. Big advertisements would be the key in my opinion.

[finaleshot2016]

The idea isn't being patented but a new game with rules and anything else will be patented.
Also, your new invention should be unique and doesn't have any huge similar to the existing games.

I made a topic about Bitcoin patent and it also talks about Intellectual property, you might read this to understand more about the patent.

Learn about Patent and Intellectual Property. (Bitcoin)

[iTradeChips]

I have a question , and maybe you're more expert about this argument...
If some one get an idea about a New Gambling game, it can be "patented"?  If yes how it can be done?

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

You can of course patent it and you should do so, if you think it's a great new game/style. As a single, private person it won't be easy to stop people from copying it and you would have to have some money at hand to pay lawyers etc., but legally you can sue and stop them. I guess you will spend a lot of time in court though, if it's some revolutionary new game

For a start I would go to a patent office and apply for it and I would suggest an international/world-wide patent for this matter. And maybe some lawyer to help you with the paperwork

And I thought securing a patent would be that easy. After reading your response, looks like I have to work on making sure that the work will not be copied by others, and in case it was copied then I need to spend more money paying lawyers to stop the other parties to use my patented invention. If there is a good way to secure that without the expensive lawyers and expensive cases on court then I'd be happy to share and hopefully profit from my invention.

[JohnBitCo]

To my knowledge in general there are several subjects that can be patented, namely technology, machinery and pharmacy.
Besides that cannot be patented, moreover ideas and concepts cannot be patented. Maybe I think the new gambling idea
you mean can not be patented, but to be more confident and not the wrong step first consultation with a lawyer is the
right step.

Its better if you can consult with the local lawyer for this patented idea because he will be in a better position to explain you if it is possible and under which conditions. OP may get 100 of ideas from here but only the local lawyer will be able to provide him with 100% accurate information.

[iTradeChips]

Definitely at this point, when you do not have the know how on these sorts of things, like I do. Then I will talk to a lawyer, specially the one who handles patents. I know that the costs of these lawyers is quite expensive and that you will spend a big sum for their services but unfortunately there is nothing I can think of at this point. I don't know if there are any law offices that charge very low on consultation and I don't know if there are any Public attorneys that also do these kinds of patent related services.

[South Park]

I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..

But even if that is what you want to do it will be way easier to do that if you have some kind of copyright protection, because if you try to sell your idea without that protection and you reveal it to a bunch of casinos most likely they have the means to produce a perfect clone in a matter of days or weeks without your aid and they could even patent the idea before you do stripping you off your rightful property, so if that is the path that you want to take you still need to copyright your ideas.

[Debonaire217]

But even if that is what you want to do it will be way easier to do that if you have some kind of copyright protection, because if you try to sell your idea without that protection and you reveal it to a bunch of casinos most likely they have the means to produce a perfect clone in a matter of days or weeks without your aid and they could even patent the idea before you do stripping you off your rightful property, so if that is the path that you want to take you still need to copyright your ideas.

Definitely, it is a must that before we let our ideas out especially if it is an online gambling idea, we should patent it knowing that it doesn't contain any characters that has publicity or contents that originally made by others even if we think that we already improved it and developed it. If we are sure that our game idea is purely unique, protect it with copyright, who knows? if they stole it and implemented it to their platform, they might earn higher than you who created the idea.

[shoreno]

Protecting it will not last long. There had been many patented products in the past that will just not used in the end all because of patent.

depends of the product if the product is not interesting and you will patent it , thats useless

There is always going to be someone out there going to copy just about anything they can find.

thats why patenting is invented to prevent those .

I have no idea about this fantasy-football but if you have a game run by code then perhaps registering it as opensource will be a better option for more people will be able to help improved it but will still recognize your work as well.

i heard this fantasy thing on the past and it has many variations now not just football .  that means it was succesful . it also depends on the dev if they want thier project to be open source  .most of projects now are open source but there are few that arent but still continue to be succesfull .

[mersal]

I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..

But even if that is what you want to do it will be way easier to do that if you have some kind of copyright protection, because if you try to sell your idea without that protection and you reveal it to a bunch of casinos most likely they have the means to produce a perfect clone in a matter of days or weeks without your aid and they could even patent the idea before you do stripping you off your rightful property, so if that is the path that you want to take you still need to copyright your ideas.

Legit casinos might buy if for few hundreds and will patent it and who knows it could turns out into million dollar idea but it only depends on the idea since not every game is going to get the attraction of players and it should be more addictive as well if the casino should buy it from their money.Copyright may not give complete protection for your product and it is also not possible for everyone to get for their inventions.

[ethereumhunter]

I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..

But even if that is what you want to do it will be way easier to do that if you have some kind of copyright protection, because if you try to sell your idea without that protection and you reveal it to a bunch of casinos most likely they have the means to produce a perfect clone in a matter of days or weeks without your aid and they could even patent the idea before you do stripping you off your rightful property, so if that is the path that you want to take you still need to copyright your ideas.

Legit casinos might buy if for few hundreds and will patent it and who knows it could turns out into million dollar idea but it only depends on the idea since not every game is going to get the attraction of players and it should be more addictive as well if the casino should buy it from their money.Copyright may not give complete protection for your product and it is also not possible for everyone to get for their inventions.

That will be the big casino's benefit because they can patent the idea with their money, so they don't have to bother with the copyright. At least, with copyright, that can help them protect their product, and if a website uses their product without asking them, they can get them to the law. If we have the copyright, we can research more and update it so the product will be better than the first time released.

[South Park]

I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..

But even if that is what you want to do it will be way easier to do that if you have some kind of copyright protection, because if you try to sell your idea without that protection and you reveal it to a bunch of casinos most likely they have the means to produce a perfect clone in a matter of days or weeks without your aid and they could even patent the idea before you do stripping you off your rightful property, so if that is the path that you want to take you still need to copyright your ideas.

Legit casinos might buy if for few hundreds and will patent it and who knows it could turns out into million dollar idea but it only depends on the idea since not every game is going to get the attraction of players and it should be more addictive as well if the casino should buy it from their money.Copyright may not give complete protection for your product and it is also not possible for everyone to get for their inventions.

It is true that a copyright protection is not everything you still need to be smart, for example if it was me the one that had a good idea about a new game for a casino and I was completely sure that it will become a success instead of selling my idea for a few hundred bucks I will probably ask for a cut of the profits, if the game is not successful you will get almost nothing but if it is as successful as you think it is you're going to get incredible royalties out of it.

[mersal]

I'm not a big fan of intellectual property.. As a example, imagine if Bitcoin were patented..

As reported in some replies, you will waste a lot of time and money.. therefore I advice you to sell your idea to a casino or supplier, that way you can earn some money and allow other people to evolve your ideia..

But even if that is what you want to do it will be way easier to do that if you have some kind of copyright protection, because if you try to sell your idea without that protection and you reveal it to a bunch of casinos most likely they have the means to produce a perfect clone in a matter of days or weeks without your aid and they could even patent the idea before you do stripping you off your rightful property, so if that is the path that you want to take you still need to copyright your ideas.

Legit casinos might buy if for few hundreds and will patent it and who knows it could turns out into million dollar idea but it only depends on the idea since not every game is going to get the attraction of players and it should be more addictive as well if the casino should buy it from their money.Copyright may not give complete protection for your product and it is also not possible for everyone to get for their inventions.

It is true that a copyright protection is not everything you still need to be smart, for example if it was me the one that had a good idea about a new game for a casino and I was completely sure that it will become a success instead of selling my idea for a few hundred bucks I will probably ask for a cut of the profits, if the game is not successful you will get almost nothing but if it is as successful as you think it is you're going to get incredible royalties out of it.

Asking for the share in the total profits made is better and fair compared to the selling the whole idea because we will get the shares forever if that business is going successful.Is there anyone in the world making such kind of earning in gambling related copyrights.

[johhnyUA]

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

There two main types of protection: patent and copyright. For example, if you will write a book, then it will be protected by copyright. And if you'll invent cure from cancer - patent. Patent is for 25 years and copyright for all your life and 70 years after. But patent can be extended in some cases (or it can be taken government by force to it ownership).

You case it's more like the case of copyright. But there is not enough only pure "idea", i mean something like "oh, i want to create galactic chess please copyright it for me" or something.  You should create it a first, show that this is work and when try to use copyright.

[imstillthebest]

Just as E.G. "fantasy-football" how to protect the idea of a game like this? just with trademark?

There two main types of protection: patent and copyright. For example, if you will write a book, then it will be protected by copyright. And if you'll invent cure from cancer - patent. Patent is for 25 years and copyright for all your life and 70 years after. But patent can be extended in some cases (or it can be taken government by force to it ownership).

You case it's more like the case of copyright. But there is not enough only pure "idea", i mean something like "oh, i want to create galactic chess please copyright it for me" or something.  You should create it a first, show that this is work and when try to use copyright.

thanks for the facts , its informative to me that does not know what protection means for a work . i didnt knew that there are two types and there are different durations for each  . fantasy football isnt an idea only but it already been released but if op is only using it as an example maybe he is planning now and ask other question related to it . so many gambling ideas already existed and thinking a new idea is tough , now i know why op wants it to be protected .