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August 03, 2020, 07:39:25 PM
Last edit: August 03, 2020, 07:49:42 PM by remotemass
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When Stephen Wolfram is asked, in a recent youtube live stream about [timestamp: 40m16s] "How much of Science has kept secret either classified by the military or waiting for monetization inside private research labs?" he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.

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{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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August 03, 2020, 07:48:26 PM
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He doesn't know shit. He was already asked about bitcoin in a previous interview and he showed he didn't understand squat about it. He's just talking crap.
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August 03, 2020, 08:02:10 PM
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Never heard of this guy before to be honest. Do you actually believe this guy despite knowing the fact that Satoshi has stayed anonymous all these years and will probably stay that way forever?

So many people try to capitalize on the popularity of the BTC creator for their own reasons and this guy is clearly one of them.

At this point, even if the legit Satoshi comes forward and claims that he is the real deal, majority of the world would still doubt him and ask him to prove his legitimacy. This is how crazy this entire mystery has become over the years.

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August 03, 2020, 08:41:46 PM
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I admire the guy, he is a genius and has been involved in the many fields of science, including application of computational thinking, including Mathematica.

But it doesn't mean that he knowns about Satoshi to say that he is a known "classified material". Or that anything about Satoshi is protected by or access is restricted by the government. But him opening his mouth and with his credibility, just adds up to the mystery of Satoshi and could be a good inclusion to the growing list of conspiracy theories on the already legendary creator of bitcoin.
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August 03, 2020, 10:00:28 PM
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Him saying that secret services know who Satoshi is can be compared to all those people who claim that secret services are experimenting on aliens and have a space ship hidden in area 51.

Claiming that agents are controlling everything around us is a theory popular among those who realy don't know much and need an explanation. Another popular theory is that God is in control of our destiny Wink
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August 03, 2020, 10:25:57 PM
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Well, you can't just criticize this person for saying Satoshi is a classified material. I mean this guy right in front of us is known to be a computer scientist. So, he probably is a believable subject when It comes to the field of computer science. 
Now, his response to the question is the safest answer than those people who claimed to be Satoshi or knew Satoshi personally. His answer by far is more believable than the other theories.
Nevertheless, nobody knows Satoshi and that's what I believe.

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August 03, 2020, 10:27:12 PM
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Mr. Stephen Wolfram is a respectable scientist. But now at age 60, he spends most of his time promoting a commercial product, by his for-profit company.
Don't get me wrong, the product is also good and unique, serving an actual purpose.
But him posting from the corporate accounts of his company should be taken with a grain of salt. Any bold statements he makes are going to get him viewership.
I can only assume he's saying such things to drive more attention to the commercial product he's interested in promoting. If he was interested to publicize such statements for the interest of science he'd so it through other mediums.

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August 03, 2020, 10:41:49 PM
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Why now, i mean for almost 10 years of bitcoin, and why did this man have knowledge leaked about it. What is his intention?

We cannot say that this is another craig wright liked hooks, but neither as we say "not true". Bitcoin shows mysterious creator at the inception and still right now. With little to no knowledge about the former, people will always be contemplating more, more than they think as it should. This stuff will add-on to many conspiracies behind bitcoin creator.

Mr. Stephen Wolfram is a respectable scientist. But now at age 60, he spends most of his time promoting a commercial product, by his for-profit company.
Don't get me wrong, the product is also good and unique, serving an actual purpose.
But him posting from the corporate accounts of his company should be taken with a grain of salt. Any bold statements he makes are going to get him viewership.
I can only assume he's saying such things to drive more attention to the commercial product he's interested in promoting. If he was interested to publicize such statements for the interest of science he'd so it through other mediums.

It could be so agreable, however, even for such a small hype may pave nothing cause he is not considered significant personality in crypto industry. Though, his company behind may not be underestimated if there is. 

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August 03, 2020, 11:27:37 PM
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Mr. Stephen Wolfram is a respectable scientist. But now at age 60, he spends most of his time promoting a commercial product, by his for-profit company.
Thank you for this brief description who is he. I have no idea that the guy is a scientist that's been respected.

Anyone who has a well-known name in any industry can make statements like him. I think we have heard someone telling this before that satoshi is the CIA, at the end, it's still his opinion and it's for the viewers or people discretion who would hear him if they'll believe or it.

Nevertheless, nobody knows Satoshi and that's what I believe.
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When Stephen Wolfram is asked, in a recent youtube live stream about [timestamp: 40m16s] "How much of Science has kept secret either classified by the military or waiting for monetization inside private research labs?" he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.

I don't think that he implied that at all. Here is what he said:
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... In terms of what has been kept secret and has become not secret, I would say that the vast majority to my knowledge over the course of my career,  .... what pieces of basic science were secret and then became not secret. There are some around nuclear physics. There are some around cryptography. I think essentially all the pieces of basic science are now not secret anymore.

Are there things that companies know about how to do things that are secret? Yeah. There are certainly ones of those, trade secrets of companies and so on, about how to make certain things work. I think those tend to be more matters of engineering of how we, in detail, make this code work, how we, in detail, make this device work, how we, in detail, put these ingredients together in this particular drink, or something. Those are more details than they are basic science. I don't think, but maybe I'm not remembering something. I don't think there is all that much basic science that ends up being kept secret.

I think that people sometimes have all kinds of wild theories about basic science that has been kept secret. I have never really seen any good evidence of those things.

Now, there are strange secrets in the world, like who was the person behind the Bitcoin cryptocurrency and things like that. There are secrets like that, but those are secrets about the doing of things or the details of things than they are about the actual basic science of things.

He started out talking about government secrets, but then he talked about trade secrets, so I don't think you can assume that he was talking only about government secrets after that. He was really just making the point that there are no more secrets in basic science.

I think we can all agree that the inventor of Bitcoin is a secret. But that does not imply that it is a secret known by any government.

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he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.


Did you actually listen to this video? Video doesn't implicate anything like this. I don't even know how did you get to make that leap. Yeah, there are trade secrets and governments have tried to keep some encryption technologies secret, but there's not even a hint in this video about the things you claim.

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August 04, 2020, 08:21:32 AM
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When Stephen Wolfram is asked, in a recent youtube live stream about [timestamp: 40m16s] "How much of Science has kept secret either classified by the military or waiting for monetization inside private research labs?" he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.



Don't easily believe on someones opinion since by watching the video it shows that he literally doesn't know on what he is talking,maybe he's using the name of bitcoin and the creator to gather fame since if he mentioned about it for sure he will be the content of the talks of the crowd. So best not to bite that kind of statement since it doesn't guarantee any reality.

And this is the sure note on this as others stated no one knows satoshi and provably he will be forever anonymous on this scene.

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August 04, 2020, 08:46:05 AM
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This man is brave enough, I think he know what his doing and saying. But concluding Satoshi is classified material is his own personal view and assumption.
Satoshi will remain unknown no matter what, no one would believe a soul to be Satoshi if claims comes up without thorough proof of his legitimacy as the real Satoshi. And to avoid confusion the unknown state of then Bitcoin creator will remain a mystery for as long as the coin remains a top currency.

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August 04, 2020, 08:46:50 AM
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Don't easily believe on someones opinion since by watching the video it shows that he literally doesn't know on what he is talking,maybe he's using the name of bitcoin and the creator to gather fame since if he mentioned about it for sure he will be the content of the talks of the crowd. So best not to bite that kind of statement since it doesn't guarantee any reality.

And this is the sure note on this as others stated no one knows satoshi and provably he will be forever anonymous on this scene.
Thing is, this guy in the YouTube video (Stephen Wolfram) didn't even say such thing, that creator of Bitcoin is known. I just watched that part of the video two times just to be sure and I have no idea idea how OP managed to get that conclusion based on the things said.

I suggest you do the same, check the video and you will see that this is just a clickbait topic title.

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August 04, 2020, 08:49:08 AM
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When Stephen Wolfram is asked, in a recent youtube live stream about [timestamp: 40m16s] "How much of Science has kept secret either classified by the military or waiting for monetization inside private research labs?" he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dA-mwg5-E


I don't know how much you can trust this character. In General, any information stuffing in the post-truth era should be viewed through the prism of common sense. This may be true, or it may be complete nonsense. So I would not trust such information occasions so much.

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August 04, 2020, 09:09:02 AM
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-snip-

Thanks for pointing this out! I'm guessing people couldn't be assed to verify because it's in video format lol.

Either way, I doubt intelligence agencies know who Satoshi is. There shouldn't be any reason for them to look into his identity considering he can't really control Bitcoin, and he was never a controversial figure anyway. He also disappeared before Bitcoin was little more than an experimental currency.

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August 04, 2020, 09:28:32 AM
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I searched 'Satoshi Nakamoto' on Wolfram Alpha. It says Satoshi Nakamoto is an electrical engineer or computer engineer. His/her date of birth was Friday, July 1, 1949. Estimated net worth is $19 billion as of 2018.

Try searching yourself - https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Satoshi+Nakamoto  Cool
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August 04, 2020, 09:34:03 AM
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Never heard of this guy before to be honest. Do you actually believe this guy despite knowing the fact that Satoshi has stayed anonymous all these years and will probably stay that way forever?

So many people try to capitalize on the popularity of the BTC creator for their own reasons and this guy is clearly one of them.

At this point, even if the legit Satoshi comes forward and claims that he is the real deal, majority of the world would still doubt him and ask him to prove his legitimacy. This is how crazy this entire mystery has become over the years.

Well, this guy is playing it safe while taking the attention of people.  Saying that the identity of Satoshi is a classified material is the safest way of pretending to know everything even though he knows nothing.  I think what he stated is just his own put up scenario.  But well, who knows, he might be speaking the truth.

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August 04, 2020, 11:34:16 AM
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At this point, it can be safely assuming that anyone who knows the identity of Satoshi is just a liar or a scammer. If someone truly knows who is Satoshi, they either would have told us already or will keep their mouth shut. And the chances of intentionally discovering him are already almost non-existent, because everyone had tried everything already.
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August 04, 2020, 11:50:06 AM
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At this point, it can be safely assuming that anyone who knows the identity of Satoshi is just a liar or a scammer. If someone truly knows who is Satoshi, they either would have told us already or will keep their mouth shut. And the chances of intentionally discovering him are already almost non-existent, because everyone had tried everything already.
A logical interpretation:

If Satoshi Nakamoto is a target of almost everyone in crypto space and governments, the one who truly knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto and publicly announce about it will be a secondary target.

If one person does not want to face with annoying things and even bigger risks of personal attacks, he or she is smart enough to maintain silence, as same as the past 10 years and a half.
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