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Last edit: August 04, 2020, 07:35:42 PM by Smartvirus
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SCAM AND SCAMMING
This is a fraudulent or deceptive attempt to rob an individual or corporate organization of it's valuables including information. Scamming seems like a growing and trending field amongst youths and some adults of many nations. Scammers especially those who use the web as their domain uses the anonymity which the web provides to perpetuate a lot of evil and there is no limit to  that which they can do. The question is, are they truly anonymous? My best guess is NO.
Today, scamming has taken several forms which often lives the victims in dismay. A person who engages in scam oriented activities is called a scammer. The question is,
WHY DO THEY SCAM?
Scammers are intellectual and smart people who has let laziness and insecurity get the better part of them. Hence, they get involve in scam oriented activities for various self comforting reasons. Some of these reasons are:
*They rely on the government of their nation to provide all that they need.
*They feel that due to their geographical location, background and resources, they aren't given equal opportunity.
*They have a taste for luxury and quick wealth which takes time, hard work and a lot of patience to attain, all of which they aren't sure they posses.
*They look out for a reason to apportion blame and a shoulder to cry on.
*They feel the world has been unfair to their situation and could have done more as to their liberation.
For these and many other reasons, they find moral justification to scam.


FORMS SCAM/SCAMMING ASSUMES
Most scamming activities are done over the web and are basically based on the acquisition of either of these two; personal information of value and money but for various reasons from threatening to finance but often ends in finance (either in Bitcoin, Altcoin or actual currency notes) and they assume these forms to act or perpetuate this act(scam):
1. INVESTMENT; scammers of Bitcoin and Altcoin prioritize in scamming those with a particular need to earn huge or acquire quick money at no cost in no time. It is a very risky venture as scammers present these opportunities in a rather appealing form with little or no risk taking. Hence, they prey on your enthusiasm to get hold of quick cash.
2. UNEXPECTED GIVEAWAYS; most persons enjoys give aways because it's often free but this is not often the case. Scammers has strategized a way in which, you are required to give a little token either in form of fee or information of value, they even go as far as tricking you to have won yourself a fortune and is required of certain task to speed up the acquisition process to access that which is kept in bulk for you and frauds you in the process.
3. FAKE SITES AND CHARITY ORGANIZATIONS; scammers create sites that looks closely like the original or an entirely different site with various testimonies from users that are likely them or their agents to boost your trust and confidence in their system or platform. Hence, you access and operate the platform, giving them informations of value through which, they fraud you of your investment, abuse your generosity and commits crime with your identity.
4. DATING AND ROMANCE; Due to the need to feel loved or have a romantic partner, a lot of individuals get involved in online and distance relationships with strangers. Scammers has prioritized on this and prey on the vulnerable and play with victims emotions by pretending to be prospective partners to the victims they meet on dating sites and social medias, move them to a less monitored and secured platform like hangout and telegram to perpetuate their scam oriented schemes.
5. BUYING AND SELLING; scammers project a product or project to the market and expect you to pay upfront before product delivery, they buy products with your personal acquired smart card details, sell your identity and fraud your customers with your details.

SCAMMING AS AN OPTION
Scammers are very rampant in almost every field of endeavors these days. A good number of scammers and scam oriented activities operates over the web as internet fraudster. This is morally wrong and can't be justified under any context. Putting yourself in the victims shoes might just give you a light as to how they feel to have been scammed. Sometimes, it's not about the value of what is been lost but the trust and relationship that have been built with the scammer. It feels really awful to be hurt emotional, robbed of your personal information/privacy and of your heart earned fund and investment. This has led most victims to seek the easy way out not excluding death. Scamming may seem more like an option for frustrated persons but the real question is;
*Is it the right option?
*Is it an option your proud of and morally justified?
*Do you feel secured as a scammer?

In my opinion, the answer to all the above question is NO! If so, why not stop and redirect your energy towards a more legitimate, positive, engaging and rewarding activity/lifestyle that you would be proud of and feel rather secured doing! For a fact, scamming is way more difficult than you care to imagine or notice. First, you get the necessary gadgets while being alert for updates, you target a prospective and vulnerable victim after careful studying, you get to be steady online, sometimes work with a crew, always on the lookout for loopholes so as to elude security operatives, gain the trust of your supposed victim, get then to move to a less monitored and secured platform like hangout and telegram, convince him/her to buy into your ideas and invest in your platform, your work time depends on their spare time and lots of stuffs like that. The worst of it is that, very few people fall into these tricks today. Isn't it rather stressful?
These energy can be used to put in work in a more legitimate field of life especially within this forum and your sure to ripe that which you seek.
Have you taken a look at the bounty section of this group, it's filled with projects and opportunities capable of boosting your finance. Though, it takes time, dedication and a lot of patience but, your sure to arrive and the best part is, it is secured, you learn, get experienced and it's for life. So long as you abide by forum rules and regulations.

MY ADVICE TO ALL, ESPECIALLY NEWBIES.
No one is too experienced to fall into some of these scam oriented schemes, be smart and play safe. Don't just believe,  invest and hand over your personal information without proper investigation on the individual and platform you  intend to invest with. Apply a lot of caution, you'll need it. For scammers, it's never too late, start somewhere and be sure that  you've got a lot of helping hands here. Get yourself a some models, study them, get motivated and inspired and your sure to improve in every aspect of your finance and life. Put in work!
Stay safe.

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Scams and scammers are round us and they always wait for our carelessness to steal our money. There are dozens of scam methods and you can look at them in my topic. Collection of comprehensive guides on identify and avoid scam projects

If you see scam giveaway on Youtube, please report there Youtube scam channels. Please spend your time to report them and take them down

Another scam type is scam KYC. Scammers do their scam exit and before the exit, they require customers to do mandatory KYC.
See the Crypto-Bridge scam KYC

Why KYC is extremely dangerous and useless
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Scam can be deemed moral to scammers but not moral to the world, it is very common in countries with high level of unemployment. Scam has started even before using fiat digitally or before the creation of bitcoin. We have to be careful not to be scammed and we need to learn how to avoid scam. I have even even created some articles on this forum that I believe could help newbies and people that visit this forum anonymously for not to be scam, you can check it below.

Crypto scams revealed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232577.msg54021683#msg54021683

How to secure crypto wallets
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235930.msg54107672#msg54107672

Recent Corona Virus Scams
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237478.msg54146045#msg54146045

Malware that can steal bitcoin from wallet devices and their preventions
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238363.msg54169267#msg54169267

Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256197.msg54635541#msg54635541

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August 04, 2020, 09:24:34 AM
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...pew pew pew...
Scammers are intellectual and smart people
...pew pew pew...

This is a generalization, and usually only applies to offline scams.
Online scammers, for most part, are opportunistic idiots who want to see what happens. As online scams involve hardly any or no risk at all.
They try it, and if they succeed it's good, if not, they get blocked.
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This is a generalization, and usually only applies to offline scams.
Online scammers, for most part, are opportunistic idiots who want to see what happens. As online scams involve hardly any or no risk at all.
They try it, and if they succeed it's good, if not, they get blocked.

On the Offline scams, there are some people who take advantage on your ignorance in something that involves money or any things related to wealth then they will talk to you and gives you some promising offers which will never gonna happen at all. After they got what they want, they will disappear as if nothing happened. Those idiots will not escape what they have done because, after so many successful scams, they also lose the people's trust especially those who are close to them. Consequences with this kind of thing are brutal, they don't really show when you have everything in your hands. the result of their action will show when they are old with no one to talk to.

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August 04, 2020, 12:20:53 PM
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For scammers, it's never too late, start somewhere and be sure that you've got a lot of helping hands here. Get yourself a some models, study them, get motivated and inspired and your sure to improve in every aspect of your finance and life. Put in work!

Lol, you sound like my pastor now, words aren't enough buddy. These guys are smart. When I say smart, I mean it and not speaking about the doubler, ponzi scammers we have all over looking for ignorant fools to prey on. We have scammers that their IQ is extraordinary, those that can predict your every move. You think those would give up their bad sorry smart way (as they call it) and go starting from scratch like picking a mentor lol. We just have to accept the fact that the world we live in will always have those who'll be wanting to steal what's our. Only then will our security consciousness rise to the highest level to keep our assets safe.

Ps: Nice thread by the way but please next time avoid capitalizing all your words (as seen with your title). It might discourage some forum members from reading your thread.

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August 04, 2020, 12:37:39 PM
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Have you taken a look at the bounty section of this group, it's filled with projects and opportunities capable of boosting your finance. Though, it takes time, dedication and a lot of patience but, your sure to arrive and the best part is, it is secured, you learn, get experienced and it's for life. So long as you abide by forum rules and regulations.
Most of your content is OK but I would have left out this part about the prosperous nature of bounty campaigns. It is filled with projects and opportunities but mostly bad projects and a waste of time.

It is also not safe in any way. Many of those campaigns require KYC. You have absolutely no guarantees that you will be paid for your work. Even if the project is legitimate, they can decide to turn their backs on their bounty hunters. Not to mention what can happen with scam projects.

You will probably learn that it is not worth it and your time is better spent on other activities. I seriously doubt that you will find many bounty hunters here who are happy with their bounty rewards. The occasional good payout probably happens here and there, but overall it's bad.   

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For scammers, it's never too late, start somewhere and be sure that you've got a lot of helping hands here. Get yourself a some models, study them, get motivated and inspired and your sure to improve in every aspect of your finance and life. Put in work!
Ps: Nice thread by the way but please next time avoid capitalizing all your words (as seen with your title). It might discourage some forum members from reading your thread.
Noted on the caps lock thing, that's why we've got this community. We might not know ourselves, come from different countries and have our individual differences but when it comes to bitcointalkforum, we are one community and I'm most glad we all accept that fact, judging from the willingness of forum members to polish each members to ensure they show their shine. It's most notable and welcome. My gratitude is to you all.
Again for the scammers, it's seriously annoying what is been done to the prospective victims and what they are made to go through. There might just be too much worth attached to that which is been taken from them. Living a life of insecurity and not having to be at peace with what you acquire isn't fun to me and there is too much uncertainty in the scam schemes. There is nothing more appealing to a clear conscience and a peaceful mindset. Try it and your sure to enjoy life at it's best.

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August 04, 2020, 01:26:15 PM
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Scamming may seem more like an option for frustrated persons but the real question is;
*Is it the right option?
*Is it an option your proud of and morally justified?
*Do you feel secured as a scammer?


Simple answer here is no. Anything that requires you to deceive an individual or group of people to obtain their money is never the right thing to do. You are simply taking advantage of their trust of fooling them that they will be earning money from you but at the end it is the other way around and the scammers are the ones who have their pockets full. Scammers should think differently instead of losing hope because of their financial problems think about the people who you will be scamming because not all of them can afford to go back in the life they were having if you will be stealing their money.
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Scamming may seem more like an option for frustrated persons but the real question is;
*Is it the right option?
*Is it an option your proud of and morally justified?
*Do you feel secured as a scammer?


First of all, it is never the right option if they can't earn money effectively in a legal way. There are a lot of opportunities to gain a lot of money and earn profits, they just need patience, courage, and effort. Scammers don't need to do these kind of things where they will harm other people for the sake of their own benefits.

Absolutely no one should be proud if they are making money out of crimes.
That's really a shame for someone who is doing evil things, probably their conscience will haunt them till lifetime.

Scammers are never secured but if they do things in a professional way, then it is more likely that the money you've lost will never be retrieved.
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Scamming may seem more like an option for frustrated persons but the real question is;
*Is it the right option?
*Is it an option your proud of and morally justified?
*Do you feel secured as a scammer?

I don't even think they feel safe at all, they just have this motives of quick money making sometimes I just seat to ask my self are this not humans whom God created and they just choose to do evil i mean is just so outrageous.

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Noted on the caps lock thing

When you get corrected, the best method to show you understood what the corrector was trying to correct is to actually take that correction. In this case it means you should have immediately correct your style of writing but since that's not the scenario it means you didn't get my message.

Seems like you don't understand the symbolism of capitalizing all your words. To some it sounds like you're shouting while to other it might come with a angry tone. In your free time you can Google this out as it'll help you alot.

Understanding how to construct your English language properly will help you both on and off forum, don't take that for granted.

Edit: seem the correction, enjoy your merit by the way (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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August 04, 2020, 09:52:10 PM
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It's just a pity for them. For how long will they continue on this path and where do they hope it's going to take them.
Maybe perhaps they would teach it to their kids too if or when they would have one...
We should all just thread carefully and when we feel too anxious and desperate on doing a thing, that's the most time to apply caution as we are very vulnerable at that point.
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August 05, 2020, 11:41:26 AM
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I don't even think they feel safe at all, they just have this motives of quick money making sometimes I just seat to ask my self are this not humans whom God created and they just choose to do evil i mean is just so outrageous.
Its true the money is the root of all evil. These people would never called God for forgiveness. What worse is they are knowledgeable on advance tech or could be an expert graduated on some prestigue universities but decided to use that brain into wrong doings.

I dont know why the long post and too much adjective about scam OP used probably he experience a worse one and being scammed before.

It's just a pity for them. For how long will they continue on this path and where do they hope it's going to take them.
Its either they are staying now on a fancy hotel or warmer jail if got/not caught.



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August 06, 2020, 06:37:56 AM
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Have you taken a look at the bounty section of this group, it's filled with projects and opportunities capable of boosting your finance. Though, it takes time, dedication and a lot of patience but, your sure to arrive and the best part is, it is secured, you learn, get experienced and it's for life. So long as you abide by forum rules and regulations.
Most of your content is OK but I would have left out this part about the prosperous nature of bounty campaigns. It is filled with projects and opportunities but mostly bad projects and a waste of time.

It is also not safe in any way. Many of those campaigns require KYC. You have absolutely no guarantees that you will be paid for your work. Even if the project is legitimate, they can decide to turn their backs on their bounty hunters. Not to mention what can happen with scam projects.

You will probably learn that it is not worth it and your time is better spent on other activities. I seriously doubt that you will find many bounty hunters here who are happy with their bounty rewards. The occasional good payout probably happens here and there, but overall it's bad.   

As long as there is demand, there will be supply. Even now, when the bounty boom has long passed, there are a lot of telegram channels on which bounty earnings are constantly advertised. Although many here already understand that this is a waste of time, there is also such a category of people who believe that it is possible to earn money from this occupation. Even after warning that the project is a scam, many people still subscribe to such bounties.
Therefore, scammers constantly keep their finger on the pulse, they improve their tricks, and as a rule, there are always those who believed them and will believe them.

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For scammers, it's never too late, start somewhere and be sure that  you've got a lot of helping hands here. Get yourself a some models, study them, get motivated and inspired and your sure to improve in every aspect of your finance and life. Put in work!
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This part I quoted where you give scammers a good advice of what they can do for a better life you be another heading on this post. So that scammers can easily find an advice that could make them change to live a better life. Other than killing people with scams.
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For scammers, it's never too late, start somewhere and be sure that  you've got a lot of helping hands here. Get yourself a some models, study them, get motivated and inspired and your sure to improve in every aspect of your finance and life. Put in work!
Stay safe

This part I quoted where you give scammers a good advice of what they can do for a better life you be another heading on this post. So that scammers can easily find an advice that could make them change to live a better life. Other than killing people with scams.

But I'd never think if they will listen to this or make their life to change. Because what I believe is that scammers will live scammers until they will caught by the authorities but since they didn't get into jail it surely they will still scam innocent people.

However, it was their choice to be like that and what OP stated because of many reasons. They know that scamming will can make them become an instant millionaire and that gives them motivation but they never realize what would be their possible ends.



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August 06, 2020, 10:46:49 PM
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I guess now it’s the time to share this thread with scammers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kidding aside, this message is not going to get across to them unless they are here lurking around. It’s quite a statement, and everything you said makes sense, but if this isn’t going to be read by the targeted people for this, it’s ineffective.

I hope the newbies will at least consider reading this, but like cryptopreneurboss, it’s quite hard to read.

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August 07, 2020, 10:25:49 PM
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First of all, it is never the right option if they can't earn money effectively in a legal way. There are a lot of opportunities to gain a lot of money and earn profits, they just need patience, courage, and effort. Scammers don't need to do these kind of things where they will harm other people for the sake of their own benefits.

Absolutely no one should be proud if they are making money out of crimes.
That's really a shame for someone who is doing evil things, probably their conscience will haunt them till lifetime.

Scammers are never secured but if they do things in a professional way, then it is more likely that the money you've lost will never be retrieved.
Opportunities to get money legally without having to cheat others is very possible to do in this forum. But this all depends on the individual, sometimes getting money from the results of scammers by deceiving many people makes them get rich quicker because there is much they can deceive. they will not take into account the loss of others, the most important thing is to collect a lot of money and benefit from the fraud they commit. Scammers do not run alone, there are several groups of scammers who are deliberately made to be more organized and able to make more money.

They have no conscience, it is not something to be ashamed of, but a pride for them if they succeed in deceiving many people.
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August 08, 2020, 05:30:21 AM
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It's just a pity for them. For how long will they continue on this path and where do they hope it's going to take them.
For how long? I dont think these punks will stop unless they have been caught and put inside the box. Taking advantage of others are their thing and its like a habit already that cant be stop. For a typical scammer doing things like what OP mentioned is normal and since they started that path there is no way they can go back cause even they wanted to change for the better, there is part of them that dig their history of scamming. Well they say you can forgive but will never forget.

If ever there is scammer who wanted to change, people will reluctant to these anymore. Once trust is broken you cant fixed it the way it should be.

I hope the newbies will at least consider reading this, but like cryptopreneurboss, it’s quite hard to read.
Im sure they dont have time, they are busy finding good bounty at the moment.  Grin

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