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August 04, 2020, 03:43:30 PM
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If they are so sure of their prediction why not put their dick at stake like what McAfee has done with his 1 million dollar prediction, for me it's not a prediction anymore Bitcoin will eventually land in that level but  the biggest question is when and that what is why McAfee failed miserably he had it to soon.
It is possible that in a certain future we will still see the bitcoin price of about a million dollars, but since today Bitcoin is becoming an increasingly attractive investment for a wider range of investors, including the emergence of institutional capital on the cryptocurrency market, this is indicates an increased demand for Bitcoin and a corresponding price that will only rise. Therefore, it is completely possible that the next historical maximum will be in the range from 50k to 100,000 dollars.
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August 04, 2020, 04:15:18 PM
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With any prediction whatsoever, I like to know when we could start taking profit irrespective of the height of price we think the it could reach?

Probably anywhere between November and June, we should do a slow sideways up move to start and then we'll get a run off like we normally do.
Last time I traded based on a bounce of the first drop at $10k dunno what I'll do this time - thought I'd see how things go...
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August 04, 2020, 04:34:42 PM
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The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.
In april he declared that this halving would show if his model was correct and seems to think so nowadays.
The model predicts bitcoin price according to the relation between the supply and the bitcoins being created.
Do we really need these flow models to understand that the price would rise after halving, all these models can only predict a small data that is presented and you cannot accurately say anything. The market is looking good and if this continues we might see a huge rally by the end of this year and next year.

I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.
If you invested in bitcoin at the right time when the market went down, then you could make a good profit without much tension about the market going down.
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August 04, 2020, 06:03:07 PM
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Well, not every model is 100% correct, eventually you will realize that the more you spend time in the crypto world, some of them are correct whereas some of them are not that correct at all. So the question is, will this one be one of them that is correct and does actually end up happening, or is this one of them that doesn't make sense and end up being wrong.

I think there is a middle ground where it will not be too wrong and it will not be horrible, but it would go up and still be fine but not just that much. Just to give an example I think it will not be $100k, but it could definitely reach above $30k and under $50k, which is still going up a lot and that is why I think it will not be fully right but it wouldn't be fully wrong neither which is why I think it is quite possible to be half right in this model.

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August 04, 2020, 06:15:17 PM
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The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.

Max Keiser said 9 years ago Bitcoin will go to $100k. That was extremely bold prediction back then. Today it is totally obvious Bitcoin will reach $100k. IT is just a matter of time when that will happen.
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August 04, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
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The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.

Max Keiser said 9 years ago Bitcoin will go to $100k. That was extremely bold prediction back then. Today it is totally obvious Bitcoin will reach $100k. IT is just a matter of time when that will happen.

Many have never imagined that Bitcoin could ever go $20k. But they were all wrong Bitcoin went to $20k in 2017. And yet there are some people who can't imagine that Bitcoin will ever go to $100k. But Bitcoin will go to $100k and then they will realize their mistake again. But Bitcoin will take time to go $100k, the market will decide when to go to this target. I am hopeful I will see that bitcoin reach this target.

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August 04, 2020, 08:45:07 PM
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I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.

The author is telling people about his analysis. He showed his flow model making it a good references to those speculators.

For the part of, you don't know what to believe, the analysis doesn't mean to actually give you hope. No one knows what will happen and always keep that in mind.

My advice, whatever good predictions you encounter - properly backed up and well-detailed, just try to focus on BTC accumulation. It will happen or not, you are sure you will have the advantage. As for me, I'm not into this $100,000 or above thing no matter how good the analysis, I always stick with the most realistic thing to happen. If it happened, then good, if not, then so be it.

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August 04, 2020, 09:33:48 PM
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The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.

 Today it is totally obvious Bitcoin will reach $100k. IT is just a matter of time when that will happen.
^ Definitely right, that is impossible to happen this year but for sure that will happen but it just a matter of time, even though there is no time frame for that but surely from time to time bitcoin will gain mass adoption that makes the price pump up. We are all optimistic about the price prediction but I did not agree that $100k will reach at this year. Nevertheless, just always put in your mind that they are only guessing the market, the fact, the market is unpredictable.
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August 04, 2020, 09:54:59 PM
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Hi guys,

What do you think of this?

The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.

In april he declared that this halving would show if his model was correct and seems to think so nowadays.

The model predicts bitcoin price according to the relation between the supply and the bitcoins being created.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-now-perfectly-on-track-to-100k-says-stock-to-flow-creator

I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.
Dont be easily deceived into these kind of call.Each one of us would really be just like average joe's that can make out their own prediction according to their own analysis but it doesnt mean that
it would be accurate no matter how expert you are on such field ex. finance, trading etc. .

This market is unpredictable and recent movement doesnt signify automatically that we would really be heading there into those prices that had been predicted or presumed out.

Why do people love to hit up that 100k price? I had been seen lots of threads or articles that someone is right and predicting that price can go beyond those prices which is totally BS.

They should at least consider on trying to target out or breaking the previous ATH first before anything else.

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August 04, 2020, 10:05:02 PM
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The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.
Max Keiser said 9 years ago Bitcoin will go to $100k. That was extremely bold prediction back then. Today it is totally obvious Bitcoin will reach $100k. IT is just a matter of time when that will happen.

That's always gonna be the question, like everytime somebody drops a $100k prediction.
I must say, that figure is unrealistic prediction at this current time, but as time goes on Btc is bound to reach that figure. As we all notice, Bitcoin global adaption is still ongoing, and Bitcoin needs more popularity and volume to reach such number. Well, I can say that might happen on the next 4-5 years, and that's my prediction.
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August 04, 2020, 10:24:51 PM
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Hi guys,

What do you think of this?

The author of the stock to flow ratio says it's going to 100K.

In april he declared that this halving would show if his model was correct and seems to think so nowadays.

The model predicts bitcoin price according to the relation between the supply and the bitcoins being created.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-now-perfectly-on-track-to-100k-says-stock-to-flow-creator

I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.
Halving was implemented as Bitcoin market inflation controller but that doesnt mean the price per bitcoin will be USD100K and I dont see any tangible reason which will make that happen. However, his prediction wont be right actually because he mathematically make those prediction.

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I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.
Halving was implemented as Bitcoin market inflation controller but that doesnt mean the price per bitcoin will be USD100K and I dont see any tangible reason which will make that happen. However, his prediction wont be right actually because he mathematically make those prediction.
And nothing to rely about his prediction as well.
I understand that we all have a freedom to make speculation with or without mathematical calculation, in fact, we all can right or (probably) wrong for a reason that we can exactly know what will happen next.

ATH will come sooner but I'm not thinking as high as $50k. I should have to keep low as the market sentiment isn't that strong enough to the uplift the price into high. When will be the next Bullrun?
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August 05, 2020, 12:14:14 AM
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Bitcoin's price to $100k is possible.
The only question is that when this will happen.

Right now we are at the $11,000 price and its very far away from that price but still many are believing that it will be reached. I'm waiting for the parabolic movement of Bitcoin probably at the start of 2021. I'm not expecting for that movement to reach $100,000 immediately as this will take time I think before it will happen. Maybe 3-5 years is my prediction.

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August 05, 2020, 01:53:30 AM
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I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.
It's a prediction so it can happen or it can't.

You've got to play your own target price and don't rely much with predictions because they are guesses. You can ride if it hits $100k but it's your decision to have the right path.

But like others, I'm also waiting for bitcoin to hit $100k but it doesn't disable us to sell at the other range lower than that.

Expert, self-proclaimed ones, known authors or whoever he was, at the end of the day, it is just prediction. As you said, it may or may not happen at all. It is good to see high numbers but you need to be realistic with numbers when it is time for you to seriously invest. Because the truth is, you are on your own. So you need to think of the possible outcomes of your decision so you will not regret those consequences.
We will appreciate those high-price speculations if they come into reality.

But as for now, it's hard to say that they'll be happening and it's ok if you believe them but you have to have a plan for your own. Not very dependent with those predictions because we will never know how and when it will happen.

It's ok to think of it someday but let's face what we have in the current time.
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August 05, 2020, 04:04:50 AM
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But as for now, it's hard to say that they'll be happening and it's ok if you believe them but you have to have a plan for your own. Not very dependent with those predictions because we will never know how and when it will happen.

It's ok to think of it someday but let's face what we have in the current time.

you find it hard because we are still at the beginning of the rise and it is not a new thing you are feeling. every time we were in the same situation everyone felt exactly the same. for example back in 2015 when price was $200 to $300 if you told someone that price is going to reach $20k (the ATH) or even $10k (the current price) they wouldn't have believed you.

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August 05, 2020, 04:13:53 AM
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It is a prediction and they based it on the information they have so they arrive at that.

I don't mind reading their prediction but we have our different sides about it. Some would obviously sell while the price are not that low and I expect a lot of investors holders and users to do the same thing and then make another investment as the price go down

Another 10 years maybe? I think we would be seeing a good price this year. As I said in the past threads, it might stay at prices between $9K to $11K so we might be seeing another ATH next year or the other.
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August 05, 2020, 05:22:21 AM
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Dont be easily deceived into these kind of call.

No, I'm not. I am aware that this is a prediction just like another and that it can fail, although probably some predictions will be right in the future.

Since McAfee "I will eat my dick" prediction, I don't blindly believe any prediction at all. Even McAfee claimed that his prediction had a mathematical model behind it.

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August 05, 2020, 06:42:41 AM
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Well, not every model is 100% correct, eventually you will realize that the more you spend time in the crypto world, some of them are correct whereas some of them are not that correct at all. So the question is, will this one be one of them that is correct and does actually end up happening, or is this one of them that doesn't make sense and end up being wrong.

I think there is a middle ground where it will not be too wrong and it will not be horrible, but it would go up and still be fine but not just that much. Just to give an example I think it will not be $100k, but it could definitely reach above $30k and under $50k, which is still going up a lot and that is why I think it will not be fully right but it wouldn't be fully wrong neither which is why I think it is quite possible to be half right in this model.


Just for some context in the last market cycle the price beat the old ATH by a factor of about 17. The time before that, if you count the quick 6 month crash and bull run in 2013 it was a factor of about 5, though since that was very short you could say that first peak in 2013 was just part of the run-up, so if you count that market cycle as from 2011 to 2013 then we're talking a factor of 36 times higher than the previous ATH. And the cycles before that were shorter and gained a ton but back then Bitcoin was very small and easy to move exponentially with new interest. My point is, if it went up by a factor of 17 last time, and about double that the time before, it is very unlikely it is only going to hit a price with a factor of 1.5 to 2.5 the old peak this time. That would be a very small bull run for Bitcoin if it ended between $30k and $50k.

If we say the increase above the old ATH will again be cut in half that puts it at let's say an 8x gain (roughly half of the 17x gain last time), so $160k. I think that is a bit high, but I'd say 6x ($120k) is a reasonable top end estimate for the peak of the current cycle. If you also factor in the fact that once you start talking about Bitcoin getting up to like a 2 trillion dollar or higher market cap you need a decent amount of institutional investment, and I'm not sure that big money will be in Bitcoin in large enough amounts in just the next couple of years to get it that high just yet. So I'd adjust that 6x the old ATH down to maybe a 4x or 5x. Still, we're talking high 5 digits with it possibly hitting $100k, or about double what you have written here. That's just my analysis, but $50k seems to be a very low estimate for the next peak.
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August 05, 2020, 12:23:15 PM
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It is a prediction and they based it on the information they have so they arrive at that.

I don't mind reading their prediction but we have our different sides about it. Some would obviously sell while the price are not that low and I expect a lot of investors holders and users to do the same thing and then make another investment as the price go down

Another 10 years maybe? I think we would be seeing a good price this year. As I said in the past threads, it might stay at prices between $9K to $11K so we might be seeing another ATH next year or the other.

It's your own understanding that will move you to whatever position that you'll going to take.

It's a must to every traders to have their own research and decide
in whatever value they desire to sell or buy their assets.

Taking your stand and always keep yourself being updated to every trends that showing around this
market, that range is possible but it will take a huge investment to reached that amount.

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August 05, 2020, 03:02:49 PM
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I don't know what to believe, with so many predictions, but this system has a clear logic behind it. I hope he is right, actually.
Halving was implemented as Bitcoin market inflation controller but that doesnt mean the price per bitcoin will be USD100K and I dont see any tangible reason which will make that happen. However, his prediction wont be right actually because he mathematically make those prediction.
And nothing to rely about his prediction as well.
I understand that we all have a freedom to make speculation with or without mathematical calculation, in fact, we all can right or (probably) wrong for a reason that we can exactly know what will happen next.

ATH will come sooner but I'm not thinking as high as $50k. I should have to keep low as the market sentiment isn't that strong enough to the uplift the price into high. When will be the next Bullrun?
Good point 👍
The ATH will be achieved but not very soon and the fact that we have freedom of speech doesnt mean we have to give crypto newbie investors false hope through our speculations just like McAfee does. However, if ATH happens the $100K price is not acceptable by me and people need to understand that people like McAfee, creator of Stock to Flow model which predicted the $100K only make their predictions to profit their own pocket.

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