Is this considered a death threat?

[GazetaBitcoin]

Prior saying that someone made a death threat, I'd like to ask the community if such an allegation can be considered a death threat: "I will piss on you and burn you".

Take into consideration that the above sentence was said by someone which already made other death threats inside the forum, being also banned 6 months for the previous death threats (he evaded his ban but that's another story).

So, given this context, what is your opinion? Is this a death threat? "I will piss on you and burn you".

I am unsure how to proceed.

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[AB de Royse777]

So, given this context, what is your opinion? Is this a death threat? "I will piss on you...".

Not sure but for sure it's dirty. Not sexy too.

On a serious note: Say this is a death threat. What worse can happen to you unless your identity is public and the guy has some real balls. This is an anonymous place and nothing is there to harm you physically. I do not guarantee mental healthy though.

[Upgrade00]

So, given this context, what is your opinion? Is this a death threat? "I will piss on you and burn you".

You actually didn't give the context (like whether it was posted in another language and meaning was lost in translation), but taking the words literally; it is a threat to inflict harm and breaks the forum rules.

This is an anonymous place and nothing is there to harm you physically. I do not guarantee mental healthy though.

It may be anonymous, but certain language and posting habits are prohibited, including;
"8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats"
Even if the possibility of actual harm is excluded, it doesn't encourage discussions if anyone is allowed to use any choice of words. Some sort of order has to be established.

[hilariousandco]

It's a threat for sure, but maybe not a death thread. Maybe he wanted to harness the power of the sun with a magnifying glass and burn you that way?  Seriously though, just report it especially if he's been banned for this sort of stuff before.

[DdmrDdmr]

Actually, it does not have to be a death threat. According to the rules:

<…> 8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats. <…>

The text you reference in the OP certainly falls under the former category (bodily harm), so the answer would be a yes technically, although the full context may be required to determine the scope and seriousness of the threat.

[AB de Royse777]

It may be but certain language and posting habits are prohibited, including;
"8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats"
Even if the possibility of actual harm is excluded, it doesn't encourage discussions if anyone is allowed to use any choice of words and some sort of order has to be established.

I was more sarcastic and expressed the way I would not bother about it too much. To be honest, there are information missing. It would be good to know the whole story instead of just a line that was picked.

Maybe he wanted to harness the power of the sun with a magnifying glass and burn you that way?  

I wonder if piss are flammable :-P
But it's a good drink if you drink it fresh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81FLsMZB2Fw  :-D

[mindrust]

Threatening with violence. Not cool. Report his ass.

[JeromeTash]

Report him, make sure you also include the other details where he has previously been banned for the same reasons. This time it could be a permanent ban for him because it looks like the previous temp ban didn't teach him any lesson.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

No, I wouldn't consider that a death threat at all, regardless of the member's previous history of alleged death threats.  It sounds like it could just be that the meaning of "burn you" got lost in the translation--I seriously doubt this is a threat to literally kill you by setting you on fire.  In the US if you tell someone you're going to burn them, you're basically telling them that you're going to beat them in whatever activity is taking place.

I haven't seen many true death threats being made on bitcointalk, and most of the ones that were questionable have been because English isn't the member's first language, and a simple expression of anger can come off sounding like an actual threat.  That's my take on this, anyway.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Thank you all for sharing your opinions. The whole story is the following: andulolika is trying another scam and I exposed it. He got very pissed off and started swearing (in Romanian) in all possible and impossible ways. After seeing that I really am confronting him he realized that his new trick won't fool anyone else due to my intervention he ended up with this threat, which can be found in his last post of this topic.

The topic is Romanian, but it's easy to figure out what's going on there, as I kept writing in English as well, thinking that at some point someone else can be interested in avoiding andulolika's new scam.

You actually didn't give the context (like whether it was posted in another language and meaning was lost in translation)

Yes, it was posted in another language, but it was not lost in translation as I am a Romanian native and a very good English speaker

Everybody feel free to explore both links I mentioned. In first one I explained in detail (in English) why andulolika is actually trying to scam people, while the second link is the one of his topic, where you will also understand >90% of the discussion.

[suchmoon]

No, I wouldn't consider that a death threat at all, regardless of the member's previous history of alleged death threats.  It sounds like it could just be that the meaning of "burn you" got lost in the translation--I seriously doubt this is a threat to literally kill you by setting you on fire.  In the US if you tell someone you're going to burn them, you're basically telling them that you're going to beat them in whatever activity is taking place.

I haven't seen many true death threats being made on bitcointalk, and most of the ones that were questionable have been because English isn't the member's first language, and a simple expression of anger can come off sounding like an actual threat.  That's my take on this, anyway.

Could be a mangled insult like "I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" but knowing the person in question I have no doubt that the shithead meant actual tangible harm, just used a vague enough expression to avoid a ban.

[Vod]

No, I wouldn't consider that a death threat at all, regardless of the member's previous history of alleged death threats.  It sounds like it could just be that the meaning of "burn you" got lost in the translation.

I would agree with this.

Maybe he was saying he has an STD, but that would burn him, not you.     "Burn" could also mean ruin your reputation - which is legal.  

[GazetaBitcoin]

Lol no, that's not the case. Maybe he has STD, but that's not what he meant. I made the correct translation.

I reported him. Let's see what happens.

Besides, in my last two replies inside his topic you can see also his previous death threats.

[electronicash]

Thank you all for sharing your opinions. The whole story is the following: andulolika is trying another scam and I exposed it. He got very pissed off and started swearing (in Romanian) in all possible and impossible ways. After seeing that I really am confronting him he realized that his new trick won't fool anyone else due to my intervention he ended up with this threat, which can be found in his last post of this topic.

The topic is Romanian, but it's easy to figure out what's going on there, as I kept writing in English as well, thinking that at some point someone else can be interested in avoiding andulolika's new scam.

You actually didn't give the context (like whether it was posted in another language and meaning was lost in translation)

Yes, it was posted in another language, but it was not lost in translation as I am a Romanian native and a very good English speaker

Everybody feel free to explore both links I mentioned. In first one I explained in detail (in English) why andulolika is actually trying to scam people, while the second link is the one of his topic, where you will also understand >90% of the discussion.

you hi-jack his thread offering translation, of course he will be offended that he sees offer a golden shower an option.

this is just online words, don't take it seriously. unless you two both knew each other. even if you consider it a threat i don't think its something to worry unless you have posted your details including the address of your residence.

[GazetaBitcoin]

you hi-jack his thread offering translation, of course he will be offended that he sees offer a golden shower an option.

If you would have read the other link I provided, you have understood that I had no intention to hijack his scam attempt. I understood that he asks for translations. Anyway, here is what I wrote in the other post, which clearly explains that I did not have any intention to hijack him and you can also understand why his post is a scam:

For kind DT members willing to give some appropriate negative tags, be aware that andulolika striked again with a new scam attempt. He started a topic in the Romanian board, offering translation services. The problem is the following: andulolika is even more illiterate than hacker is, although it seems hard to believe. Actually, he is so illiterate, that from his topic anyone could understand that he needs translation services instead of offering them. As I did. So I told him that if he needs translations I can help him, showing him also my portfolio.

At this moment, the guy went full retard and started swearing very bad at me, with words which can be hardly translated, also full or spelling mistakes (if needed, I can try translate them, including also the spelling mistakes). He sweared about God, about my mother, about an owl (not owlcatz lol), about me sucking his sweat (!!!), about how bad his Romanian is and many other things. But that's the smallest problem.

The real problem is that andulolika is such an illiterate person, that he's unable to write his name correctly. Speaking (and writing) so bad in Romanian makes it clear that he's unable to perform a good translation, since he doesn't even know his very own language. His English is the same and I suppose that his Spanish is also the Spanish or an undergraduated, peanuts brain underclassman.

Actually, his English is so bad, that suchmoon once thought he is drunk:

Are you still drunk? Your post is barely comprehensible.

He wasn't drunk, but the man can't spell correctly "a-ha". Ok, now imagine that his Romanian is even worst (not joking). If you access the above mentioned topic, even without knowing Romanian, you'll see how illiterate he is, as I was inspired to correct all his mistakes. If I wouldn't know the real scam, I'd be tempted to believe he's joking. Like the guy doing odd jobs or the one answering any question for 99€.

However, andulolika is trying to scam people here, as he is unable to perform such a translation. Not talking about hus English / Spanish skills: the man doesn't even know Romanian. And I'm not talking about writing with diacritics (ă, â, î, ț  ş, Ş, Ț, Î), nor about underatandable typos. He is not even able to write simple words (similar to writing in English with "i" instead of "I" or "im" instead of "I'm"). As a matter of fact, he wrote in that topic that he is aware of his baboon Romanian skills and that he will collaborate with someone for correcting what he will write in Romanian, in case anyone would hire him. Practically, he says that someone will translate from Romanian to Romanian for him, as he barely knows his native language. And of course, that guy may be another illiterate, as there is a saying: the ones alike get together (this is a Romanian saying; in English I think it is "what goes around comes around").

As a consequence, anyone hiring him would pay not for a service, but for a chance to emabarass himself, as those reading the translations could be tempted to think the idiocies (by the way, he wrote "idiocracy" instead of "idiocy") written in the translation belong to the OP instead of the translator. And, excepting this, who would pay for such a translation would get scammed, as andulolika is unable to offer a translation as long as when he signs for his name he writes a "X". He was unable to write correctly even his topic title: he wrote "traductor" instead of "traducator", as he would have written "tranlator" instead of "translator".

Given all the above, I believe he needs additional negative feedbacks from DT members, as he is trying to lure naïve members and steal their money for services he can not offer. Of course (term which he writes as "ofcourse"), nobody should hire someone who didn't pay a loan in 3 years, as this is a good sign that the respective person may not respect the contract deadlines. Also, nobody should hire a ban evader, a member which makes death threats and, generally speaking, an imbecile. Is like hiring a blind man for a guide tour or someone without a driver license for being a taxi driver. But all these can be enforced also with appropriate feedbacks from DT members. Anyone hiring andulolika is at great risk of losing money as he can't offer translation services due to his low intellect and lack of knowledge of his native language and also of the mentioned foreign languages.

Please let me know what you think.

[pugman]

I don't know if this should be considered as a serious death threat, it seems more like shit talking because of dislike towards the other person. So don't take it too seriously, unless he goes on ahead and tells you "I am gonna kill you" or something that actually implies a serious death threat. This given very little context, feels more like a person being butthurt and saying : "why u posting in my thread, oh no guy with trust rating gonna give me neg trust, i am gonna swear goats at u fuck u fuck ur mom fuck dick u big gay".

And if you don't like interacting with this user, ignore and move on. Some trolls aren't worth the sweat.

[Rizzrack]

It certainly is not polite, but not a death threat. Don't want to take sides but this is a seldom used curse phrase in Romanian. At least in my neck of the woods as I heard few people use it before (once or twice). Swearing in Romanian is hard to translate fully in other languages, as is the case of many other languages...

So...

- He opened a thread where he offered translations (it was badly written and was very vague. Most might have understood he needed translation)
- You offered him your translation service which he took as thread hijacking (and legend has it that you are still translating his word to this day)

As for some reason he chooses to speak english English on a romanian Romanian board i'll I'll just say that I make the translation understandable, i I don't either have nor want all that stupid gramatical idiocracy idiocy (n.b. for this context, the correct term is idiocy, but the caveman doesn't know what idiocracy means) as there's someone else to bother with that. Ofcourse Of course, any translation would be written without grammatical mistakes and a corrector will be used on top."

- he got upset and started cursing very bad
- you then called him out for his broken Romanian
- some more swearing, some more translations, some more cursing...
- you then called him out for his broken English
- some more swearing, some more translations, some more cursing...

Conclusion:

1. IMHO not a death threat...
2. WTF are you even arguing about ? There is no scam, just a guy with "less than perfect" writing skills advertising for translation services. Not the first, not the last.
3. Write in Romanian in the Romanian local board!!! If you need you can translate it later. Seems you are both translating stuff anyways so shouldn't be a problem.

[hacker1001101001]

@GazetaBitcoin, You are full of shit !  You hijacked others thread here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266095.0. Anyone with a couple of brain cells more than you would notice, that you have an habbit of vomiting your wisdom in unexpected places. You are sure to get more such threats easily.

Anyways, this thread is pure trolling of the issues from your side. Did you saw any horror movie yesterday which made you so scared of andulolika ?

I am a Romanian native and a very good English speaker

LOL ! You would really be more funny and dump in real life.

[FFrankie]

Are we going to pretend no one here has been pissed on and burned by a women in leather?

[Casdinyard]

I don't know if this should be considered as a serious death threat, it seems more like shit talking because of dislike towards the other person. So don't take it too seriously, unless he goes on ahead and tells you "I am gonna kill you" or something that actually implies a serious death threat. This given very little context, feels more like a person being butthurt and saying : "why u posting in my thread, oh no guy with trust rating gonna give me neg trust, i am gonna swear goats at u fuck u fuck ur mom fuck dick u big gay".

And if you don't like interacting with this user, ignore and move on. Some trolls aren't worth the sweat.

Indeed. I guess it is better to leave such argument when you already know it leads to nothing. If the accused user was just pissed off with GazetaBitcoin, I think it's just natural to post his emotions, as we are born with different mental and emotional capabilities with different level of patience. But the argument and issue here is simple (as already answered by Rizzrack,

- He opened a thread where he offered translations (it was badly written and was very vague. Most might have understood he needed translation)
- You offered him your translation service which he took as thread hijacking (and legend has it that you are still translating his word to this day)

As for some reason he chooses to speak english English on a romanian Romanian board i'll I'll just say that I make the translation understandable, i I don't either have nor want all that stupid gramatical idiocracy idiocy (n.b. for this context, the correct term is idiocy, but the caveman doesn't know what idiocracy means) as there's someone else to bother with that. Ofcourse Of course, any translation would be written without grammatical mistakes and a corrector will be used on top."

- he got upset and started cursing very bad
- you then called him out for his broken Romanian
- some more swearing, some more translations, some more cursing...
- you then called him out for his broken English
- some more swearing, some more translations, some more cursing...

Hence, IMO, GazetaBitcoin was just a perfectionist writer, but took things too seriously when he had a feedback from his posts. Thus, even you had your fluency in both languages, that doesn't justify your patience and maturity. Doesn't mean that he said to burn you then you would accuse it as a death threat, not unless he knows where you are nor had any contact with you threatening you in a much fearful way.

You cannot extinguish fire with another fire, even a spark can help it.