You have to prove that you can take the loss

[South Park]

As practice shows, government agencies are absolutely indifferent to the effectiveness of their work - so you think about such details, but those who promote such regulation do not. That is why I am in favor of reducing government regulation in all areas (and in gambling too), since it is ineffective.

Of course the government can do it, but they dont want to change the rules they have made. Many rules from all lines of government must be changed, but who cares. People are those who have to comply with government regulation and anyone who violates them will be sanctioned. I would also argue that if thats for the best, reducing the rules might be a socially acceptable solution.

This is the main problem of officials/bureaucracy in any country and system of government: in the end, they are only interested in people needing them. In fact, they are interested in creating problems that can be solved only with their help.

And this is because most people do not really care about the results either, whenever a new law is passed in my country I have the tendency to talk about that with my friends and for the most part most laws that are passed today do not really solve anything, however government officials need to do something or they are going to look useless to the public and then they pass a bunch of useless laws that only increase the price for compliance and reduces the liberties of their citizens, but when I talk about this with my friends they do not get it, they only look at the good intentions of the government regardless of the results.

[target]

As practice shows, government agencies are absolutely indifferent to the effectiveness of their work - so you think about such details, but those who promote such regulation do not. That is why I am in favor of reducing government regulation in all areas (and in gambling too), since it is ineffective.

Of course the government can do it, but they dont want to change the rules they have made. Many rules from all lines of government must be changed, but who cares. People are those who have to comply with government regulation and anyone who violates them will be sanctioned. I would also argue that if thats for the best, reducing the rules might be a socially acceptable solution.

This is the main problem of officials/bureaucracy in any country and system of government: in the end, they are only interested in people needing them. In fact, they are interested in creating problems that can be solved only with their help.

And this is because most people do not really care about the results either, whenever a new law is passed in my country I have the tendency to talk about that with my friends and for the most part most laws that are passed today do not really solve anything, however government officials need to do something or they are going to look useless to the public and then they pass a bunch of useless laws that only increase the price for compliance and reduces the liberties of their citizens, but when I talk about this with my friends they do not get it, they only look at the good intentions of the government regardless of the results.

Well gamblers losing  £100/month is going to make them useful when all those goes in to the right project that will also be useful for the people.

Nope, its not like your friends didn't get it. They just knew that talking politics always end up to an arguement and then possibly brawling or worse. I once talked to my in-laws about politics and after one of them shouted. I never engage to them again. Even avoid them anymore.

[Eugenar]

Atleast, it would still be allowed. This is a point that should still be appreciated. In other countrie,s, both offline and offline gambling are prohibited. So regulation will not be that much of a burden. The rule is to prove you can take a loss of €100 right? If you are wanting to continue, it should be fine to give the demand. Also this would somewhat help the gamblers especially if they do not have that much to gamble. They would be restricted to a certain point telling "this is enough for today", if you don't have that much money to gamble. Which is a good thing, why? Some gamblers are just greedy and frustrated to get that win not being aware of how much have they lose already. And also, if this will be negative to the gamblers, rules may still change for sure.

[Betwrong]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

[bitcoinst]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

There is no point in creating external restraints in order to contain human gambling addiction. People must change themselves, otherwise they will always find ways to get around the restrictions.
In addition, such restrictions relieve people of responsibility for their actions, they begin to think that the reasons for their addictions are outside of them, while this is not so.

[stadus]

There is no point in creating external restraints in order to contain human gambling addiction.

The solution created is not to totally cure gambling addiction, but to prevent people from getting addicted, but it's not 100% guaranteed it will work but this is the initiative of the government.

People must change themselves, otherwise they will always find ways to get around the restrictions.

True, we need to learn from our mistakes, gambling addiction is could be similar to alcohol addiction, but there's no restriction on buying altcoin or limitation from consumers, so this law is quite absurd too but some people would appreciate it especially those who are not gamblers.

In addition, such restrictions relieve people of responsibility for their actions, they begin to think that the reasons for their addictions are outside of them, while this is not so.

Not blaming themselves for gambling addiction when the are in control is a plain stupidity.

[peter0425]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

actually that 5-10% is smaller than what is reality has,because i believe that almost half of gamblers are addicted maybe some of them don't accept it but it is  indeed they are.

addiction must be faced immediately before it gets worst since addict don't usually accept they are.
they must be cured and must be helped.

[Viscore]

Definitely, in the real online gambling, there is nothing to fear because it is safe and secure which is compared to a physical cockfight that during lockdown it is prohibited were much-updated news that many participants were caught in the act and they already paid about 35k but as gambling lovers, it is proven that it cannot really be shaken it still continues to be enjoyed without control In fact very immovable even incarcerated.

There is nothing to do with them. Even though how serious the government imposing such restrain and stop physical gambling, they are still hard-headed not to follow them instead of continuing it. They know that they can't be put in jail for their whole life and they can be freed soon if they can pay their bill. That makes them strongly decide to do illegal cockfighting.

[FaucetKING]

It's clearly stated that the government is trying to regulate even more the gambling casinos because some folks lost their jobs and must get a salary to spend, it's a weird situation and a weird move from the part of the gov but it is logical enough to be implemented. The gamblers should only bet what they only afford to lose and this is why the new rules are going to be implemented, to prevent peoples from risking their salaries, risking bigger amounts and losing all of their funds which is catastrophic.

[doomistake]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

There is no point in creating external restraints in order to contain human gambling addiction. People must change themselves, otherwise they will always find ways to get around the restrictions.
In addition, such restrictions relieve people of responsibility for their actions, they begin to think that the reasons for their addictions are outside of them, while this is not so.

The thing is, people who are addicted in gambling will not heal themselves from addiction because of their pride and losses, therefore the Government and the gambling site or casinos help each other to cure their citizens who are addicted to gambling. But of course it will never be enough, what you've said was right. People need to change first or help themselves in order to attain peace and forget gambling addictions that became their nightmares which hunts them at night.

The cure to addiction is the dedication of a person to submit himself in the therapy or whatever way of healing he wants to. Otherwise, it is just nonsense.

[DoublerHunter]

^ Literally I can say that I should take the loss if I lose right? but the subject says "You have to prove that you can take the loss". is this a question or a survey? because, If I play into a gambling site regulated, or does require KYC or not, how can a Gambler technically, or literally prove that he/she can take the loss? in what way? by losing a huge amount of money? Limiting the amount of money that you can use is not the solution, but limiting the bet and requiring KYC. Nevertheless, this implementation is useless when it comes to using cryptocurrency.

[bitcoinst]

There is no point in creating external restraints in order to contain human gambling addiction.

The solution created is not to totally cure gambling addiction, but to prevent people from getting addicted, but it's not 100% guaranteed it will work but this is the initiative of the government.

In order to fight against the gambling addiction of citizens, it is necessary to understand where the addiction itself comes from, what is its cause. There are people with a dependent personality type, they become dependent on many things. This is due to their emotions, which are dependent on external things, which as a result leads to addictions of various kinds. Whether it's alcohol, drugs, loveless love or gambling addiction. For such people, restrictions can only create a precedent for the development of addiction.

[Debonaire217]

People who are addicted can help themselves by realizing that they have an addiction to gambling, and they need to ask help from other people so that they can solve the problem. The government can not help them if they still continue playing gambling, and the casino will not be responsible for the gamblers. I agree that people need to change themselves before other people help them, so that will not be difficult to get out of gambling addiction.

Actually, government's regulation could do, since if they can't handle themselves, the platforms do. Limiting their depositing and withdrawal amount will be the best tool for them to limit their playing activity. Meaning, if we are really eager to play and gamble if the system is not allowing us, we might choose other platforms to play with, but with the government's regulation applied to almost all of the online gambling casino available to our country, we have no choice but to obey and spend time more on ourselves, until we understand that we are getting addicted.

[Betwrong]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

actually that 5-10% is smaller than what is reality has,because i believe that almost half of gamblers are addicted maybe some of them don't accept it but it is  indeed they are.

addiction must be faced immediately before it gets worst since addict don't usually accept they are.
they must be cured and must be helped.

It is impossible to say exactly what percentage of gamblers have gambling problems, but the number can be estimated because numerous studies have been conducted on the subject. I've read many reports, and I bet most of the researchers would agree on the "5% -10%" estimation, and the actual number would be rather close to 5% than to 10%.

I'll show you just one example of how to estimate the percentage of addicted gamblers.

Take the number 2.6% from this article

The North American Foundation for Gambling Addiction Help reports that approximately 2.6% of the U.S. population has some type of gambling issue.

and keep in mind that their having "some type of gambling issue" doesn't imply they are gambling addicts, but okay, let's make an upper estimate of the number.

then take 60% from here(again, for an upper estimate):

Approximately 85 percent of Americans have gambled at least once in their lives; 60 percent have gambled in the previous year.

Now, let's do some simple math here:

2.6% x (1 ÷ 0.6) = 4.333333333%

In other words, only 4.3% of the people who have gambled in the previous year were having "some type of gambling issue". The percentage may vary from country to country, but it is hardly above 10% anywhere. CMIIW.

[btc78]

Definitely, in the real online gambling, there is nothing to fear because it is safe and secure which is compared to a physical cockfight that during lockdown it is prohibited were much-updated news that many participants were caught in the act and they already paid about 35k but as gambling lovers, it is proven that it cannot really be shaken it still continues to be enjoyed without control In fact very immovable even incarcerated.

There is nothing to do with them. Even though how serious the government imposing such restrain and stop physical gambling, they are still hard-headed not to follow them instead of continuing it. They know that they can't be put in jail for their whole life and they can be freed soon if they can pay their bill. That makes them strongly decide to do illegal cockfighting.

yeah and knowing  how  gamblers  have so many option to gamble?

though Cockfighting can be interfered  easily because  there  are  many people now that can easily report them to the authority .

But Addict  will always  find ways,and government cannot do anything about this because this is  a personal problem and also family is the first that can help them.

[Naida_BR]

Already in several countries gambling is regulated. Very few countries follow it in a strict manner, while majority just stay liberal and give importance when something serious as suicide happens. Regulations were a must, but those regulations need to keep both the users and the gambling platform owners on the safer side.

Regulations are somehow a way to keep people and economy in general safe.
If someone gambles without any limit then debt is created and this debt is going to harm all counterparts involved.
In the end, this greedy behavior harms other people apart from the gambler.

[Janation]

People who are addicted can help themselves by realizing that they have an addiction to gambling, and they need to ask help from other people so that they can solve the problem. The government can not help them if they still continue playing gambling, and the casino will not be responsible for the gamblers. I agree that people need to change themselves before other people help them, so that will not be difficult to get out of gambling addiction.

Gamblers realizing their addiction is not that easy.

One of the symptoms of being addicted into something is being indenial that you are addicted. That is why it is also hard to realize that they are addicted and that is also why the governments can help by maling laws or bills that would be able to limit their activities in a casino or in an online casino(in this case). Casinos wouldn't care, that is why these might be able to make these gamblers realize that they are already addicted.

[bobyhodob]

People who are addicted can help themselves by realizing that they have an addiction to gambling, and they need to ask help from other people so that they can solve the problem. The government can not help them if they still continue playing gambling, and the casino will not be responsible for the gamblers. I agree that people need to change themselves before other people help them, so that will not be difficult to get out of gambling addiction.

Gamblers realizing their addiction is not that easy.

One of the symptoms of being addicted into something is being indenial that you are addicted. That is why it is also hard to realize that they are addicted and that is also why the governments can help by maling laws or bills that would be able to limit their activities in a casino or in an online casino(in this case). Casinos wouldn't care, that is why these might be able to make these gamblers realize that they are already addicted.

well I think only people who have made a lot of profit and suddenly experience losses due to small mistakes so they try to correct their mistakes by continuing to gamble and hope that the lost capital can come back again so they get carried away with emotions and cannot control their emotions and finally they addicted to gambling.

[Ucy]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

I think the phrase(problem gambler) sounds more like tautology because gambling is a problem... (I have even seen "safe gambling").   
  "Problem Bettor" sounds appropriate in my opinion.   If you really want to solve the problem of gambling (and betting addiction) the word should be clearly understood and applied in the broader sense.
Gambling with your money, time, health etc is a big problem that should be prevented.
People shouldn't gamble or enjoy gambling because it creates problems for them.
Bet responsibily. And bet on safe/good games

[Betwrong]

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If a person wanna gamble with their entire years salary, the government shouldn't have any say or order on it. They can advise although.

That's my money, my rule, this is the rule we like.

Hope our government will not follow the same law as gambling addiction is also high in our country.

Gambling addiction, as any other addiction, is a bad thing, and it can't be ignored, even if only from 5% to 10% of all gamblers in most countries can be called problem gamblers. But the regulations should not be harmful for 90%-95% of gamblers who gamble to relax from their hard work, and can work more effectively after that. The importance of relaxation is underestimated big time in economic terms. Deprive people of relaxation, and economy will collapse.

I think the phrase(problem gambler) sounds more like tautology because gambling is a problem... (I have even seen "safe gambling").  
 

No, it's not. Gambling by itself is not a problem for most of the people(see my post above). There are many things that become harmful when abused: alcohol drinking, video games playing, even eating normal food can become a problem, but it's wrong to consider those activities bad by default.

"Problem Bettor" sounds appropriate in my opinion.   If you really want to solve the problem of gambling (and betting addiction) the word should be clearly understood and applied in the broader sense.
Gambling with your money, time, health etc is a big problem that should be prevented.
People shouldn't gamble or enjoy gambling because it creates problems for them.
Bet responsibily. And bet on safe/good games

It looks contradictory to your previous statement in the same post.