You have to prove that you can take the loss

[travwill]

Already in several countries gambling is regulated. Very few countries follow it in a strict manner, while majority just stay liberal and give importance when something serious as suicide happens. Regulations were a must, but those regulations need to keep both the users and the gambling platform owners on the safer side.

I'm in very much on the side of the government if they want to regulate and provide a cap on every user about how much each can gamble because strictly speaking, even though the government makes good profit from casinos, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the citizens by having their hard earnt money ripped by misusing their addictions!

I agree with you. Regulation simply has to be.
Of course, no one forces citizens to go to casinos forcibly, but the casino is arranged in such a way as to put people on gzhmbling, which leads to mental and social problems in quite healthy wealthy people.
The state in this case loses, since the level of the state is determined by the consciousness of its citizens.

[TedMosby]

meanwhile here in Indonesia, gambling is prohibited.
but contradictively, it supports several Indonesian football clubs.
and many Instagram influencers endorsed by gambling site to promote their service. lol.

like many steps behind to become a country with a clear gambling regulation.

[BITCOIN4X]

It will not be fair to cap each individual with same amount of money allocated for gambling. Some people are rich and they can afford much more amount to gamble than the middle class or the lower class gambler. If government want to implement this rule, they should allot different limit for different categories of people.

The government will forever be blamed by those who are not satisfied with the rules. I dont think that the restriction will create injustice among gambler of different economic status. When the rules were made, I thought they had taken the gamblers economic status into account. But this is just a government plan that has not yet been realized. They will consider the amount of tax that will be received from the casino if the rules are made. Limiting the amount of money a player can bet will only reduce the tax the casino has to pay to the government.

[glowing10]

Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.

It seems to me that ordinary players who do not have an addiction and like to sometimes spend time playing, will suffer from such restrictions. A dependent person will always find ways to circumvent the restrictions and continue playing as much as they want. Forbidden fruit is sweet.

If that person could prove that losing some money would not be an issue and can easily manage after that as well then should not be worry. But for those who are form hand to mouth situation then yes those people will have some tough time as this is government decision and can be seen form both the sides.

[desticy]

Maybe that's good to regulate the gambling market, and provide user with the limit on spending. In reality this isn't that easy to calculate the ability of each users spending. This will cause more illegal ways of gambling. Right now what governments need to is, create proper documentation process and the necessity to be fulfilled. If any of the gambling platform doesn't meet the requirements just shut it.

It is necessary to regulate the market, but not in similar ways, they will not lead to anything. Everyone chooses to gamble for him or not, but that should always be decriminalised. Regulation should take place on the basis of education and training, so that people grow up with a healthy psyche, and not with deviations that ultimately lead to all sorts of addictions.

[bitbunnny]

Maybe that's good to regulate the gambling market, and provide user with the limit on spending. In reality this isn't that easy to calculate the ability of each users spending. This will cause more illegal ways of gambling. Right now what governments need to is, create proper documentation process and the necessity to be fulfilled. If any of the gambling platform doesn't meet the requirements just shut it.

The idea might be good but the hardest part will be how to determine the vulnerable groups of gamblers and set limits but at the same time not to violate anyone's rights. The problem I see is misuse of different procedures and then the final result will not be as desired. And gambling platforms will not be delighted with such regulations so a resistance might be expected.

[livingfree]

Maybe that's good to regulate the gambling market, and provide user with the limit on spending. In reality this isn't that easy to calculate the ability of each users spending. This will cause more illegal ways of gambling. Right now what governments need to is, create proper documentation process and the necessity to be fulfilled. If any of the gambling platform doesn't meet the requirements just shut it.

Providing spending limit will not make the big gamblers happy about it.

The government has many ways to check those casinos if they are operating illegally, as for it, they want to put the focus on the gamblers not with the casinos for the spending limit.

They are looking to the spending habit and also, they will take down casinos that operates illegally, this is common worldwide.

[FontSeli]

Addiction of the gamblers isn't tolerable especially if they are always doing it. The government can't do anything to but to do things like this that can help these addicted gamblers lessen their addiction into it.

I'm thinking too if the regulation that the government will put into these gambling casinos will affect the tax that they are paying or not. Hmmmmmm but anyway this will be a great help for the gamblers but I doubt that all of them will agree with this move.

It seems to me that ordinary players who do not have an addiction and like to sometimes spend time playing, will suffer from such restrictions. A dependent person will always find ways to circumvent the restrictions and continue playing as much as they want. Forbidden fruit is sweet.

If that person could prove that losing some money would not be an issue and can easily manage after that as well then should not be worry. But for those who are form hand to mouth situation then yes those people will have some tough time as this is government decision and can be seen form both the sides.

As a rule, government decisions may not be ideal for everyone. Because people are different and gambling addiction is different for everyone. Therefore, they cannot meet the interests of absolutely everyone. Someone will be harmed in their own interests and, as is usually the case, most likely ordinary players who do not have problems with gambling addiction will suffer.

[FlightyPouch]

...most likely ordinary players who do not have problems with gambling addiction will suffer.

I agree, especially those people that can take those losses ten or even maybe a hundred times the set cap by this regulation. I don't think they will be willing to face an ombudsman just to prove that they can take a loss since that might affect their persona negatively knowing that they are gambling like that and in that huge amount.

[FontSeli]

...most likely ordinary players who do not have problems with gambling addiction will suffer.

I agree, especially those people that can take those losses ten or even maybe a hundred times the set cap by this regulation. I don't think they will be willing to face an ombudsman just to prove that they can take a loss since that might affect their persona negatively knowing that they are gambling like that and in that huge amount.

I very much doubt that people will even want to give out information about themselves that they actually play gambling games in online casinos. In society, as a rule, there is a bias towards people who play in casinos. Therefore, in some cases, even the fact that someone will know about your online casino games will be enough for a person to stop playing in an online casino.

[Saisher]

I very much doubt that people will even want to give out information about themselves that they actually play gambling games in online casinos. In society, as a rule, there is a bias towards people who play in casinos. Therefore, in some cases, even the fact that someone will know about your online casino games will be enough for a person to stop playing in an online casino.

Government or any public or private organization should not intervene or interrupt in any activity that people are doing that may have a bad impression in the public, the general society has a bad impression on gamblers and this will discriminate them, they can just pose serious warnings but it's on the person to imposed it to himself not the government.

[johhnyUA]

Even if the government mailing the gamblers about their laws or bills or fine, the gamblers will not care because they don't even read that mails. They will still play gambling, but if one of their family members care about them, they will remind the gamblers to stop for a while from gambling. It is hard if the addicted person to gambling knows if he is addicted or not, it needs other people to help them realize and see the fact. If we need to prove that we are fine with the loss, maybe that will embarrass them, so it needs other people that can show them that gambling is not good for that gambler.

So this is the reason why government should act directly on casino owners  If casino will ban you for some time after some amount you've lost, you'll get calm and have time to do some useful activities. The amount of people which is highly addicted (meaning they will register new accounts through VPN or something like this) is much less than full amount of people who is in danger zone.

So, at least one time, government do their job right.

If the government acts directly on casino owners, I think it will not be good for them. Maybe the government can use another approach for the casino owner, and maybe they will invite them to discuss that. I think the gambler can avoid a ban from the casino by playing honestly, and not using VPN to register new accounts because if that is their rule, the casino will not tolerate it. Both government and the casino will do their jobs, and the gambler needs to have a responsibility for themselves.

Of course that will be no good for casino owners, because more regulations - more headache for any casino. But in that case, this is useful regulations, because every casino is highly interested to take everything from you to the last penny. And is something awful will happen later, this will be out of the casino (like one episode on my mind, when my neighbor killed his wife because of gambling addiction). So now it will be much harder for idiots to lose everything and for casino to take everything from idiots.

[Debonaire217]

The casino will think about the regulations, and they will not make strict regulations for their members if that is not necessary. But if something worst happens in their casino and that is not on their regulations list, they can add new regulations so the members will follow that new rule. The casino will always have a way to take everything from the idiots who don't realize that because the casino will tempt them to play gambling more and more.

Most of the time, if the player is having huge funds and is a gambler by heart they offer something unique that makes the gambler feel that they have good priveleges, but it turns out that they sometimes lose to the casino, it's hard to accept but it is near to the terms: "luring the gambler for house's good". 

On the other hand, I found some casinos that really cares for the players in terms of donating to the charities and having cashback when players could have benefits depending on how often they play.

[Betwrong]

Of course that will be no good for casino owners, because more regulations - more headache for any casino. But in that case, this is useful regulations, because every casino is highly interested to take everything from you to the last penny. And is something awful will happen later, this will be out of the casino (like one episode on my mind, when my neighbor killed his wife because of gambling addiction). So now it will be much harder for idiots to lose everything and for casino to take everything from idiots.

The casino will think about the regulations, and they will not make strict regulations for their members if that is not necessary. But if something worst happens in their casino and that is not on their regulations list, they can add new regulations so the members will follow that new rule. The casino will always have a way to take everything from the idiots who don't realize that because the casino will tempt them to play gambling more and more.

I think that casinos rarely, if ever, impose regulations of their own on customers. Gambling sites just have to comply with the regulations made by governments of the territories where they operate. I disagree with you, and I agree with @johhnyUA, only to be more polite I would replace the word "idiots" with "gambling addicts".

Also, it is a common misconception that casino wants to take all your money. What casino really wants is to have a lot of players and earn from the house edge. It doesn't care about whether a particular player winning or losing.

[freedomgo]

Of course that will be no good for casino owners, because more regulations - more headache for any casino. But in that case, this is useful regulations, because every casino is highly interested to take everything from you to the last penny. And is something awful will happen later, this will be out of the casino (like one episode on my mind, when my neighbor killed his wife because of gambling addiction). So now it will be much harder for idiots to lose everything and for casino to take everything from idiots.

The casino will think about the regulations, and they will not make strict regulations for their members if that is not necessary. But if something worst happens in their casino and that is not on their regulations list, they can add new regulations so the members will follow that new rule. The casino will always have a way to take everything from the idiots who don't realize that because the casino will tempt them to play gambling more and more.

I think that casinos rarely, if ever, impose regulations of their own on customers. Gambling sites just have to comply with the regulations made by governments of the territories where they operate. I disagree with you, and I agree with @johhnyUA, only to be more polite I would replace the word "idiots" with "gambling addicts".

Casinos are just imposing at least the minimum law required by the government for them to implement, they would be kind to their gamblers because all they want is to give gamblers some comfort so they can gain the trust and they will earn a loyal gamblers.

Also, it is a common misconception that casino wants to take all your money. What casino really wants is to have a lot of players and earn from the house edge. It doesn't care about whether a particular player winning or losing.

That's the common line of the losers, they can't accept that casinos are winning and they are losing.
With house edge, they can win most of the time, but they'll never win all the time, but if you are gambling with a house edge, it's expected that you'll lose in the long run as you don't have the edge, it's pretty simple, so I hope they'll understand that before gambling.

[peter0425]

I very much doubt that people will even want to give out information about themselves that they actually play gambling games in online casinos. In society, as a rule, there is a bias towards people who play in casinos. Therefore, in some cases, even the fact that someone will know about your online casino games will be enough for a person to stop playing in an online casino.

Government or any public or private organization should not intervene or interrupt in any activity that people are doing that may have a bad impression in the public, the general society has a bad impression on gamblers and this will discriminate them, they can just pose serious warnings but it's on the person to imposed it to himself not the government.

But sometimes Government must interfere to help the people or the addicted person because this can even effect the economy,imagine too much addict in gambling?they  are burden to the community and their family for sure.

i Support government in this kind of action and hoping each government will do the same for the goodness of their own people.

[iTradeChips]

I very much doubt that people will even want to give out information about themselves that they actually play gambling games in online casinos. In society, as a rule, there is a bias towards people who play in casinos. Therefore, in some cases, even the fact that someone will know about your online casino games will be enough for a person to stop playing in an online casino.

Government or any public or private organization should not intervene or interrupt in any activity that people are doing that may have a bad impression in the public, the general society has a bad impression on gamblers and this will discriminate them, they can just pose serious warnings but it's on the person to imposed it to himself not the government.

But sometimes Government must interfere to help the people or the addicted person because this can even effect the economy,imagine too much addict in gambling?they  are burden to the community and their family for sure.

i Support government in this kind of action and hoping each government will do the same for the goodness of their own people.

We can view this as a symptom of something else, I think, something in the mind is corrupting the mental faculties of these gamblers, losing their control over their urge to gamble and their willingness to give all they have to win and make big amounts of money. This needs to be dealt with the likes of anxiety and depression and addiction. In my opinion, this is a mental sickness and this needs mental specialists and psychologists to handle these people. Government should fund specialized sectors of the medical establishment that concentrates in combating addiction and depression.

[Pamadar]

Of course that will be no good for casino owners, because more regulations - more headache for any casino. But in that case, this is useful regulations, because every casino is highly interested to take everything from you to the last penny. And is something awful will happen later, this will be out of the casino (like one episode on my mind, when my neighbor killed his wife because of gambling addiction). So now it will be much harder for idiots to lose everything and for casino to take everything from idiots.

The casino will think about the regulations, and they will not make strict regulations for their members if that is not necessary. But if something worst happens in their casino and that is not on their regulations list, they can add new regulations so the members will follow that new rule. The casino will always have a way to take everything from the idiots who don't realize that because the casino will tempt them to play gambling more and more.

The casino have that capabilities, most from those trusted gambling house they can easily manipulate things to still favor them, if there's adjustment that they needed to follow they'll going to make sure that it won't take that big hit to there business, if it's a requirements that needed to follow there are still ways for bankers to continue alluring the gambler to keep playing.

[FontSeli]

I very much doubt that people will even want to give out information about themselves that they actually play gambling games in online casinos. In society, as a rule, there is a bias towards people who play in casinos. Therefore, in some cases, even the fact that someone will know about your online casino games will be enough for a person to stop playing in an online casino.

Government or any public or private organization should not intervene or interrupt in any activity that people are doing that may have a bad impression in the public, the general society has a bad impression on gamblers and this will discriminate them, they can just pose serious warnings but it's on the person to imposed it to himself not the government.

Government intervention in people's Affairs is a complex thing. Here it is important to observe a fine line, how to set the rules of the game and not directly interfere in people's Affairs. It seems to me that it is impossible to set limits on the amount of loss so that they do not affect anyone. Someone can afford to lose tens of thousands of dollars and still not get serious damage to the wallet. And for someone, losing a hundred bucks will already be a serious loss.

[stadus]

I very much doubt that people will even want to give out information about themselves that they actually play gambling games in online casinos. In society, as a rule, there is a bias towards people who play in casinos. Therefore, in some cases, even the fact that someone will know about your online casino games will be enough for a person to stop playing in an online casino.

Government or any public or private organization should not intervene or interrupt in any activity that people are doing that may have a bad impression in the public, the general society has a bad impression on gamblers and this will discriminate them, they can just pose serious warnings but it's on the person to imposed it to himself not the government.

Government intervention in people's Affairs is a complex thing. Here it is important to observe a fine line, how to set the rules of the game and not directly interfere in people's Affairs. It seems to me that it is impossible to set limits on the amount of loss so that they do not affect anyone. Someone can afford to lose tens of thousands of dollars and still not get serious damage to the wallet. And for someone, losing a hundred bucks will already be a serious loss.

I agree with you, people who like to gamble higher than the set limit might have to divulge their financial information just to pass the requirement to gamble a higher amount, question is, are they willing to do that?  I can already see that majority would say no.