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August 07, 2020, 06:55:23 PM
Last edit: August 08, 2020, 09:22:58 PM by cabirr
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I have been using this platform from the moment the Sportbet platform started using the eos network. I made a lot of bets, and the biggest problem, I often had was that my winnings were not credited to my account even though my bet was won during the match before the matches were completed. On June 19, I made a bet of 6 goals in the France vs Spain e-soccer match. At the moment I made the bet, there had to be 2 more goals in total in the match. And I followed the match visually through sportbet.

The bet I made resulted as follows on the sportbet platform;

https://i.hizliresim.com/KUy1NF.jpg

At first it was just writing pending. After waiting for some time, I talked to the admin to finalize my bet. She said that they received a payment stop notification from the provider related to the match. When I asked why, the match is actually not 4-2. she said it was 3-2.
All the scores in different sources about the match that I made on Google were showing 4-2. I objected rightly.

And she sent me the link to the match stream on twitch. I watched the game hundreds of times. At each goal, I watched the players' reactions after important positions. Finally, I recorded the video of the canceled goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxV-sd_i0a0&list=TLPQMzEwNzIwMjCaim1yfh0kbw&index=1

I do not know why. They did not react at all for the canceled goal. Normally a surprising position.

I've tried many times to explain to the manager that things are not normal here. It's a fair platform. That's what they wrote on their platform. I made people watch the position. Everyone was saying it was a trick. One person did not say otherwise.

I have contacted the manager many times. She said at first it was always a fair position. When people say that this is not a fair position, She said that they are a platform that only trades according to the result.

She said we are not a referee.

But;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177893.msg54909899#msg54909899

Here they decided like a referee.

I told her that this last match was unfair and that the amount of bet made had to be refunded. she told me that "we cannot do this, we take action according to the results".

But here;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266626.0

here;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266592.0

here;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266592.0

and much more... they did not act on the results. Although it was not decided by a referee here, they considered the bets made void because they detected cheating. Even though it was a clear cheat in the game I bet on, they do nothing. WHY? because they won.

her and my offers.
https://i.hizliresim.com/mKGPJw.png
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organizer and sportbet company connection:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256763.msg54656632#msg54656632

Sorry, I don't know English. and I've been trying to explain my problem to people for months using only translate. and it's really hard to do that.


Hope that justice will be served... Thank you.


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August 07, 2020, 07:37:38 PM
Last edit: August 07, 2020, 07:53:39 PM by morvillz7z
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Hi cabirr,

If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker.

In the screenshot below you can see that there is only one defender left and clearly in the moment of the pass, the offensive player is in offside, ruled correctly by the game.



edit;

There's a ball spinning from the goalkeeper. This position has nothing to do with offside.  Angry I wish there were. but not.

the goalie does indeed bobble the ball, whether it's intentional or not it does not matter, this is textbook offside, at the time of the pass the striker is in offside position.

https://twitter.com/terseterh/status/1274379779060502529

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August 07, 2020, 07:43:34 PM
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There's a ball spinning from the goalkeeper. This position has nothing to do with offside.  Angry I wish there were. but not.
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August 07, 2020, 07:56:00 PM
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I'm not familiar with these games , usually who are the ones that organize these events ?

also in the other thread you said the following :
there is cheating. all betting platforms accept the score as 4-2... You can do a search on google.

can you please get any type of link that confirms that ? I'm not even sure what I should type in google TBH also the twitch link you provided isn't working for me

if the official score was 3-2 I really don't know how you can blame the site since it was the official score anyways but you are saying it ended 4-2 if I'm not mistaken ?
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August 07, 2020, 08:08:07 PM
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I don't know how the results are now. Can't I blame the site? They're the ones who made this score end like this. It has nothing to do with e sports. When you watch the video, you will see it clearly. the players don't even react after the position. They were clearly instructed.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177893.msg54909899#msg54909899 I want you to look over there.
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August 07, 2020, 09:16:30 PM
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal.

Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. Smiley

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August 08, 2020, 09:11:45 PM
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal.

Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. Smiley

Of course, if had not been intervened. Sad
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August 09, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
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If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker.
Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.

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August 09, 2020, 04:32:01 PM
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Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.

It was ruled out offside by the game itself, the game developer (in this case EA Sports) obviously doesn't know shit about football then... Roll Eyes

AFAIK, all these cyber-football matches that bookies offer are pre-recorded. I wouldn't bet on these even if they give me free money/credits.

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August 09, 2020, 06:02:38 PM
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Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.

It was ruled out offside by the game itself, the game developer (in this case EA Sports) obviously doesn't know shit about football then... Roll Eyes

AFAIK, all these cyber-football matches that bookies offer are pre-recorded. I wouldn't bet on these even if they give me free money/credits.


The problem is that this position is offside in unnatural ways. Without intervention, such a position is not  to be offside. There are a lot of topic here regarding the voiding of table tennis bets. WHY? A fair platform... According to what? Your platform does fair things when it's only for their own benefit.
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August 09, 2020, 06:36:37 PM
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Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.

It was ruled out offside by the game itself, the game developer (in this case EA Sports) obviously doesn't know shit about football then... Roll Eyes

AFAIK, all these cyber-football matches that bookies offer are pre-recorded. I wouldn't bet on these even if they give me free money/credits.


You're just giving evasive answers. I was using the sportbet platform to bet. After seeing the complaints here, I started to think that I made a mistake. I don't want to be one of the people who started the topic here.

If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker.
Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.

And definitely this position is not offside.

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August 09, 2020, 08:23:46 PM
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal.

Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. Smiley

No, the offside rule applies from when the ball is played to the guy ruled offside (the second it leaves his team mates foot/chest/head).


Both blue shirted players are in an offside position when the ball is played towards them.
To be ONSIDE the dude receiving the ball would have to be level with or the other side of the GK (last defender in this play).


Correct decision. I’ve been a huge football fan my entire life.
If the GK was where he should be......in his goal then it would be ONSIDE.




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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal.

Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. Smiley

No, the offside rule applies from when the ball is played to the guy ruled offside (the second it leaves his team mates foot/chest/head).


Both blue shirted players are in an offside position when the ball is played towards them.
To be ONSIDE the dude receiving the ball would have to be level with or the other side of the GK (last defender in this play).


Correct decision. I’ve been a huge football fan my entire life.
If the GK was where he should be......in his goal then it would be ONSIDE.




this position is not offside. it has nothing to do with it from a distance. there is a ball coming from the opponent goalkeeper. there is an opposing player hovering around the goal post. Football is my life. I am doing this job professionally.

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August 10, 2020, 02:12:21 AM
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Hello @cabirr thanks for Pming me to look at this matter. I do not have much idea about football offside but the result of the match are not the same in all the reference live score sites I was looking at. In fact, I see some confusing results in the same site.

For example in livescore.football365.com they have one with 4 - 2 and another with 2 - 0 for the same team.

4 - 2: https://livescore.football365.com/international-esoccer-live-arena-10-mins-play-france-yoshi-esports-vs-spain-veep-esports/19-06-2020/1167759
2 - 0 : https://livescore.football365.com/international-10-mins-play-spain-veep-esports-vs-france-yoshi-esports/19-06-2020/1167760

Then I have statisticsports.com who are showing 4 - 2 : https://statisticsports.com/en/france-yoshi-esports-vs-spain-veep-esports-at-2020-06-19

In bsportsfan.com, they are showing again 2 - 0 for the same match https://bsportsfan.com/r/2471456/Spain-%28Veep%29-Esports-v-France-%28Yoshi%29-Esports

In anther site I see smartbets.com I see 2 - 0 and 3 - 2 for the same team in same day: https://www.smartbets.com/football/france-yoshi-esports-spain-veep/



At this point, I am confused by seeing not the same results in everywhere. Who are the officials of this sport and what is the final result there?

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August 10, 2020, 03:40:06 PM
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Hello @cabirr thanks for Pming me to look at this matter. I do not have much idea about football offside but the result of the match are not the same in all the reference live score sites I was looking at. In fact, I see some confusing results in the same site.

For example in livescore.football365.com they have one with 4 - 2 and another with 2 - 0 for the same team.

4 - 2: https://livescore.football365.com/international-esoccer-live-arena-10-mins-play-france-yoshi-esports-vs-spain-veep-esports/19-06-2020/1167759
2 - 0 : https://livescore.football365.com/international-10-mins-play-spain-veep-esports-vs-france-yoshi-esports/19-06-2020/1167760

Then I have statisticsports.com who are showing 4 - 2 : https://statisticsports.com/en/france-yoshi-esports-vs-spain-veep-esports-at-2020-06-19

In bsportsfan.com, they are showing again 2 - 0 for the same match https://bsportsfan.com/r/2471456/Spain-%28Veep%29-Esports-v-France-%28Yoshi%29-Esports

In anther site I see smartbets.com I see 2 - 0 and 3 - 2 for the same team in same day: https://www.smartbets.com/football/france-yoshi-esports-spain-veep/

https://i.imgur.com/urbU58l.png

At this point, I am confused by seeing not the same results in everywhere. Who are the officials of this sport and what is the final result there?

After hundreds of complaints, the final officials of the sport made changes to the cast.  They even removed the information of the players who played in this match from their site. https://bpfive.org/
The first mistake they make is to publish these simple games. The second mistake is that they claim that I lost for a match whose outcome is never clear. They just sent me a broadcast about the match. I have thousands of doubts even that it covered the game I bet on.

There are many topics opened here. After all, players' winnings were canceled. for as the match they bet on was not a fair event. Who can prove that my encounter was fair. There is only one difference. For canceled bets, the platform lost.
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cabir, create a flag against sportbet.one as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.
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August 10, 2020, 04:22:43 PM
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.

I'm sorry but what exactly is the connection between Sportbet.one and Sportsbet.io? To my knowledge, these two are totally different entities with absolutely nothing in common. Correct me if i'm wrong...

They even removed the information of the players who played in this match from their site. https://bpfive.org/

Are you referring to Budapest Five?

"Budapest Five is a Hungarian professional esports organization."
source: https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Budapest_Five

I'm pretty sure they play Counter-Strike exclusively.

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August 10, 2020, 04:32:32 PM
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.

We need to take action. I have just created a flag for what happened to me(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2203) and we will only stop this fraud together.



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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.

We need to take action. I have just created a flag for what happened to me(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2203) and we will only stop this fraud together.



Hi,

100% nothing to do with sportsbet.io ....

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Is this related to the red horse fly on the blue mountain?
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.

I'm sorry but what exactly is the connection between Sportbet.one and Sportsbet.io? To my knowledge, these two are totally different entities with absolutely nothing in common. Correct me if i'm wrong...

They even removed the information of the players who played in this match from their site. https://bpfive.org/

Are you referring to Budapest Five?

"Budapest Five is a Hungarian professional esports organization."
source: https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Budapest_Five

I'm pretty sure they play Counter-Strike exclusively.

It is so professional that it can be understood from the web sites and twitter addresses.
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.

I'm sorry but what exactly is the connection between Sportbet.one and Sportsbet.io? To my knowledge, these two are totally different entities with absolutely nothing in common. Correct me if i'm wrong...
Since cabir referred to my thread on his OP, I firmly believe he is complaining about sportsbet.IO
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.

I'm sorry but what exactly is the connection between Sportbet.one and Sportsbet.io? To my knowledge, these two are totally different entities with absolutely nothing in common. Correct me if i'm wrong...
Sine cabir referred to my thread on his OP, I firmly believe he is complaining about sportsbet.IO

these are the same platform, bro. if they were different platforms. Yes, you were deceived, they would send messages saying that such "problems would not occur on our platform". They just do cheap tricks.
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August 10, 2020, 04:51:54 PM
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Hello..


1. The NAME is wrong...

2. The style is WRONG..

3. We DONT support EOS

4. Main support method is WECHAT > and if anyone knows anything about the world... you'll know thats china based.  ni how ma.


besides those 4 things guys... I don't have much more to say Smiley have a pleasant evening.
If you don't know who you are betting with, how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?

best regards,

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Its true these are different plataforms, however, OP has my thread (and others) as reference, therefore, my recommendation to him.

I thought he was complaining against you, as there are plenty of complaints against you.

Dont need to say you dont take the complaints seriously, its obvious. Smiley
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Since cabir referred to my thread on his OP, I firmly believe he is complaining about sportsbet.IO

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strength.

It is so professional that it can be understood from the web sites and twitter addresses.

Again, how exactly are Budapest Five (a team that only plays cs:go) is connected to your lost bet on E-SOCCER?

Please point to a single tweet from Budapest Five twitter account that points/talks about football/soccer, please just one, i beg you?

these are the same platform, bro.

Speechless...


edit;


These players were on their platform 1 month ago. it is obvious how official they are.

can't lose any more brain cells dealing with deranged people like you. i'm out.  Cheesy 

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Hello..


1. The NAME is wrong...

2. The style is WRONG..

3. We DONT support EOS

4. Main support method is WECHAT > and if anyone knows anything about the world... you'll know thats china based.  ni how ma.


besides those 4 things guys... I don't have much more to say Smiley have a pleasant evening.
If you don't know who you are betting with, how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?

best regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io, not Sportsbet.cn





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You say "I have nothing to do with this platform". You are saying "how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?". Do you use this head at all hours of the day? Or do you only use it at certain times. Maybe you can be separate platforms. but how kind of platform you are is obvious.
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August 10, 2020, 05:00:03 PM
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You say "I have nothing to do with this platform". You are saying "how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?". Do you use this head at all hours of the day? Or do you only use it at certain times. Maybe you can be separate platforms. but how kind of platform you are is obvious.
Sportsbet.io is a separate platform from yours, sportsbet.one.

The user is addressing saturent, who has created a thread against sportsbet.io.

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Since cabir referred to my thread on his OP, I firmly believe he is complaining about sportsbet.IO

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strength.

I have no idea about sportbet.one, these are different sites, obviously.
But since OP refered to my thread
and also commented on it,
Are we surprised? No! Because Sportbet.io is really very scam project.
I thought he was complaining about Sportsbet.io..

I have missunderstood the whole issue here, I apologize and I'll edit the previous comment mentionig the flag.
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Since cabir referred to my thread on his OP, I firmly believe he is complaining about sportsbet.IO

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strength.

It is so professional that it can be understood from the web sites and twitter addresses.

Again, how exactly are Budapest Five (a team that only plays cs:go) is connected to your lost bet on E-SOCCER?

Please point to a single tweet from Budapest Five twitter account that points/talks about football/soccer, please just one, i beg you?

these are the same platform, bro.

Speechless...


These players were on their platform 1 month ago. it is obvious how official they are.
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You say "I have nothing to do with this platform". You are saying "how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?". Do you use this head at all hours of the day? Or do you only use it at certain times. Maybe you can be separate platforms. but how kind of platform you are is obvious.
Sportsbet.io is a separate platform from yours, sportsbet.one.

The user is addressing saturent, who has created a thread against sportsbet.io.

I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
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I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
It is normal if you're defending yourself against a flag that doesn't concern you:

cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.
Hi,

100% nothing to do with sportsbet.io ....

That's their first post on this thread.

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You say "I have nothing to do with this platform". You are saying "how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?". Do you use this head at all hours of the day? Or do you only use it at certain times. Maybe you can be separate platforms. but how kind of platform you are is obvious.
Sportsbet.io is a separate platform from yours, sportsbet.one.

The user is addressing saturent, who has created a thread against sportsbet.io.

I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
cabirr sportbet.one and sportsbet.io are not the same. You have misinformation.

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I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
It is normal if you're defending yourself against a flag that doesn't concern you:

cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.
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100% nothing to do with sportsbet.io ....

That's their first post on this thread.
I totally missunderstood him, I thought OP complained about Sportsbet.io as he refers to them on many of his posts.
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You say "I have nothing to do with this platform". You are saying "how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?". Do you use this head at all hours of the day? Or do you only use it at certain times. Maybe you can be separate platforms. but how kind of platform you are is obvious.
Sportsbet.io is a separate platform from yours, sportsbet.one.

The user is addressing saturent, who has created a thread against sportsbet.io.

I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
cabirr sportbet.one and sportsbet.io are not the same. You have misinformation.

I do not claim to be 100% identical. but they definitely have a relationship. Or this shows that sportsbet.io officials are retarded.
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I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
It is normal if you're defending yourself against a flag that doesn't concern you:

cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.
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100% nothing to do with sportsbet.io ....

That's their first post on this thread.

my brother. They have been here since the first time I opened the subject. What do you think should I think?
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my brother. They have been here since the first time I opened the subject. What do you think should I think?
Your association may stem from the first user's avatar, which is an advertisement for Sportsbet.io.

However, the actual website has no association with the sportsbet.one website that you have a problem with. Users may have issues with Sportsbet.io right now, but let's not get it tangled with this different situation.

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These sites are different cabirr, apologize me but I missunderstood you.

You say "I have nothing to do with this platform". You are saying "how can we take any of your complaints seriously anyway?". Do you use this head at all hours of the day? Or do you only use it at certain times. Maybe you can be separate platforms. but how kind of platform you are is obvious.
Sportsbet.io is a separate platform from yours, sportsbet.one.

The user is addressing saturent, who has created a thread against sportsbet.io.

I strongly believe they have some connection. Is it normal for them to comment that much in a situation that doesn't concern them?
cabirr sportbet.one and sportsbet.io are not the same. You have misinformation.

I do not claim to be 100% identical. but they definitely have a relationship. Or this shows that sportsbet.io officials are retarded.
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I do not claim to be 100% identical. but they definitely have a relationship. Or this shows that sportsbet.io officials are retarded.
They definitely do not have any relationship. You are driving this topic to something else now. The best case will be to find the official thread of sportbet.one (seek help from other users, I am too old to find it) and post the link here.

About your case, I have no idea if the match ended with a 3 - 2 or 4 - 2. There were different results in different sites and if I consider the video provided then it was saying the last goal an offside.

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I do not claim to be 100% identical. but they definitely have a relationship. Or this shows that sportsbet.io officials are retarded.
They definitely do not have any relationship. You are driving this topic to something else now. The best case will be to find the official thread of sportbet.one (seek help from other users, I am too old to find it) and post the link here.

About your case, I have no idea if the match ended with a 3 - 2 or 4 - 2. There were different results in different sites and if I consider the video provided then it was saying the last goal an offside.
I understand cabirr might have been confused after seeing the severeal recent complaints against sportsbet.io, I apologize as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2660816

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I do not claim to be 100% identical. but they definitely have a relationship. Or this shows that sportsbet.io officials are retarded.
They definitely do not have any relationship. You are driving this topic to something else now. The best case will be to find the official thread of sportbet.one (seek help from other users, I am too old to find it) and post the link here.

About your case, I have no idea if the match ended with a 3 - 2 or 4 - 2. There were different results in different sites and if I consider the video provided then it was saying the last goal an offside.

I just wanted the case to proceed fairly here. I didn't want anything else. When these two idiots came and commented on the topic here, I thought they were the officials of the platform. even the platform icons are the same. the names are close to each other. I definitely won't bet even 0.001 eos, the 2nd platform was sportsbet.io. Anyways...

Sportbet.one has to present me with proof from which company it bought the matches, and a broadcast content of the matches. This is the only way to resolve this confusion. I met hundreds of people about the position. Most of them are professionals in this field.
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I do not claim to be 100% identical. but they definitely have a relationship. Or this shows that sportsbet.io officials are retarded.
They definitely do not have any relationship. You are driving this topic to something else now. The best case will be to find the official thread of sportbet.one (seek help from other users, I am too old to find it) and post the link here.

About your case, I have no idea if the match ended with a 3 - 2 or 4 - 2. There were different results in different sites and if I consider the video provided then it was saying the last goal an offside.
I understand cabirr might have been confused after seeing the severeal recent complaints against sportsbet.io, I apologize as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2660816

Here is sportbet.one profile link

No, their answers to the subject surprised me. I'm sorry if I really made a mess.
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@cabirr, there you have it. I will send them a PM to have their input on this thread. Let's hear what they have, to say here.

Sportbet.one has to present me with proof from which company it bought the matches, and a broadcast content of the matches. This is the only way to resolve this confusion. I met hundreds of people about the position. Most of them are professionals in this field.
While they do their job, you may also bring some reference from the live score sites to make your case stronger. I tried and since I do not have much idea, I could not find anything solid to reference.

Good luck.

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@cabirr, there you have it. I will send them a PM to have their input on this thread. Let's hear what they have, to say here.

Sportbet.one has to present me with proof from which company it bought the matches, and a broadcast content of the matches. This is the only way to resolve this confusion. I met hundreds of people about the position. Most of them are professionals in this field.
While they do their job, you may also bring some reference from the live score sites to make your case stronger. I tried and since I do not have much idea, I could not find anything solid reference.

Good luck.

They must have a connection with the company organizing this event. If it is an official platform, a record of the matches must be legally available. Unfortunately, my researches on the internet do not yield very different results. but I will try. Thanks.
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If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker.
Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.

A bit WRONG... To be onside you'll need to be further from the opponent's goal line than at least two players or the ball itself, but in most cases the goalkeeper is always the last man hence, it is always judged by the last player, but the official rule is you shouldn't be ahead of the second-last man.. so if there were to be two defenders in the video, even without the goalkeeper, it would have been on side. Whether some livescores websites considered that to be a goal is irrelevant, the decision of the official organisers is the only relevant one and then the sportbooks would still be within their rights to consider the game a void in case of none clear decisions.

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They gave me -trust here  because I was dealing with the number of posts. It's really funny. The other negative trust is for attacking crypto sports bookies. You will understand what my purpose is when my case has a positive or negative result.
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August 10, 2020, 05:59:42 PM
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the sportbooks would still be within their rights to consider the game a void in case of none clear decisions.
Remember that cabirr lost his bet. He didn't get a push on the result.
They gave me -trust here  because I was dealing with the number of posts. It's really funny. The other negative trust is for attacking crypto sports bookies. You will understand what my purpose is when my case has a positive or negative result.
Those are because of the spill-over/misunderstanding from when you were accusing Sportsbet.io instead of Sportsbet.one. Simple miscommunication issue.

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If it weren't for the backmost, opponent there. There was no need to even discuss this issue. This position is clearly not offside.

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the sportbooks would still be within their rights to consider the game a void in case of none clear decisions.
Remember that cabirr lost his bet. He didn't get a push on the result.

I quite sure that'd be because of the result stated by the organisers of the events, the major people causing the controversy would be the livescores website. Sometimes most of them never correct some events after the game has ended, I've been a victim of a number of such scenarios mostly regarding goalscorers bet, you'll see official organisers like (EPL and La Liga) change the goalscorer sometimes at halftime or at the end of the game, but some sites do not update such details.


They gave me -trust here  because I was dealing with the number of posts. It's really funny. The other negative trust is for attacking crypto sports bookies. You will understand what my purpose is when my case has a positive or negative result.

The negative feedbacks are unwarranted, I'd say. I don't think you're a shill as you wouldn't have brought this up if there wasn't this controversy, neither do I think you give a damn about your post counts. However, your approach on situation and other users who are just trying to help to clarify the situation hasn't been good enough to say the least.

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the sportbooks would still be within their rights to consider the game a void in case of none clear decisions.
Remember that cabirr lost his bet. He didn't get a push on the result.

I quite sure that'd be because of the result stated by the organisers of the events, the major people causing the controversy would be the livescores website. Sometimes most of them never correct some events after the game has ended, I've been a victim of a number of such scenarios mostly regarding goalscorers bet, you'll see official organisers like (EPL and La Liga) change the goalscorer sometimes at halftime or at the end of the game, but some sites do not update such details.


They gave me -trust here  because I was dealing with the number of posts. It's really funny. The other negative trust is for attacking crypto sports bookies. You will understand what my purpose is when my case has a positive or negative result.

The negative feedbacks are unwarranted, I'd say. I don't think you're a shill as you wouldn't have brought this up if there wasn't this controversy, neither do I think you give a damn about your post counts. However, your approach on situation and other users who are just trying to help to clarify the situation hasn't been good enough to say the least.

I really regret my attitude to sportbet.io admins. but they provoked me. he says "can't lose any more brain cells dealing with deranged people like you". but I really regret experiencing this situation.

If I were given a - trust for this reason, I wouldn't have questioned it. Anyways. this is not our topic. I apologize for the bad words I said really. I have been doing research for a month, the https://bpfive.org/ site 1 month ago is not the same as the current site. I can swear to you that I saw pictures of the actors here. I don't know if there are records of such things on the Internet. But if there is a record, you will see it as it was 1 month ago. This company is in budapest, also "sportbet.one" company too is there.

I noticed now that they even changed their site. It appeared as "http://budapestfive.org/" in my google browser. now "https://bpfive.org/"
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It's difficult to really find any information on the match given how niche it is. Like I mentioned to you before privately, I don't think you'll get any more compensation out of the website - given that the game deemed it as an offside goal, sportsbet.one probably determined the result based on what the referee (i.e. the game itself) stated. That's how it applies to most games, so the rationale would be consistent.

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It's difficult to really find any information on the match given how niche it is. Like I mentioned to you before privately, I don't think you'll get any more compensation out of the website - given that the game deemed it as an offside goal, sportsbet.one probably determined the result based on what the referee (i.e. the game itself) stated. That's how it applies to most games, so the rationale would be consistent.


Let's assume that it operates according to that logic. what about here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177893.msg54909899#msg54909899

If they make the decision according to their minds, where are the user rights?
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August 10, 2020, 07:11:59 PM
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And if you ask them, they say "automatically approved until 1k eos". while waiting for a long time in the system pending with a score of 4-2. After asking why my bet was still not confirmed, it was canceled. With so many questions. How can I believe they don't have a finger in this business?

I watched many live football matches. For example, there were too many positions in this match. They all reacted too. "because they are human." They don't react at all for such a position.
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August 10, 2020, 11:03:16 PM
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And if you ask them, they say "automatically approved until 1k eos". while waiting for a long time in the system pending with a score of 4-2. After asking why my bet was still not confirmed, it was canceled. With so many questions. How can I believe they don't have a finger in this business?

I watched many live football matches. For example, there were too many positions in this match. They all reacted too. "because they are human." They don't react at all for such a position.

This happens a lot of times that whenever you try to place a bet, it does not get confirmed immediately and takes a few extra moments till when the game usually gets a goal (if we assume that these are pre-recorded games which can't really assure that the wins are possible as if that's the case, the bookie already knows the outcome as well as the exact time of goals, offsides, corners, etc. So, no chance for you to beat them as they'll definitely stop you the moment when they know that the time has come and a goal is going to be made).

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August 11, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
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And if you ask them, they say "automatically approved until 1k eos". while waiting for a long time in the system pending with a score of 4-2. After asking why my bet was still not confirmed, it was canceled. With so many questions. How can I believe they don't have a finger in this business?

I watched many live football matches. For example, there were too many positions in this match. They all reacted too. "because they are human." They don't react at all for such a position.

This happens a lot of times that whenever you try to place a bet, it does not get confirmed immediately and takes a few extra moments till when the game usually gets a goal (if we assume that these are pre-recorded games which can't really assure that the wins are possible as if that's the case, the bookie already knows the outcome as well as the exact time of goals, offsides, corners, etc. So, no chance for you to beat them as they'll definitely stop you the moment when they know that the time has come and a goal is going to be made).

It is obvious that I made a mistake. The deeper you search, the more confusion comes from below. I just lost more than 2k eos in these games. I only objected to the betting company about my last game. All my good thoughts about the platform disappear one by one over time. but they don't care....
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August 11, 2020, 06:40:03 PM
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It is obvious that I made a mistake. The deeper you search, the more confusion comes from below. I just lost more than 2k eos in these games. I only objected to the betting company about my last game. All my good thoughts about the platform disappear one by one over time. but they don't care....

I'm sorry for your loss but that's all I can say here in your case as such matches can't even get probably verified which is why I never bet on such lines. It's not easy to gather the results of these matches as even a last second goal can change the whole result and you won't even know it till the game ends completely.

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August 12, 2020, 06:22:02 PM
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It is obvious that I made a mistake. The deeper you search, the more confusion comes from below. I just lost more than 2k eos in these games. I only objected to the betting company about my last game. All my good thoughts about the platform disappear one by one over time. but they don't care....

I'm sorry for your loss but that's all I can say here in your case as such matches can't even get probably verified which is why I never bet on such lines. It's not easy to gather the results of these matches as even a last second goal can change the whole result and you won't even know it till the game ends completely.

You are so telling the truth. Unfortunately, I learned this situation by living. Look, the betting platform doesn't care. because they won.

I feel very bad. I've lost too many sums to date. of course I'm sorry. but this is very different. I cannot forget this situation I am experiencing.  Embarrassed
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