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August 07, 2020, 06:55:23 PM Last edit: August 08, 2020, 09:22:58 PM by cabirr |
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**The topic has been rearranged to be more descriptive. I have been using this platform from the moment the Sportbet platform started using the eos network. I made a lot of bets, and the biggest problem, I often had was that my winnings were not credited to my account even though my bet was won during the match before the matches were completed. On June 19, I made a bet of 6 goals in the France vs Spain e-soccer match. At the moment I made the bet, there had to be 2 more goals in total in the match. And I followed the match visually through sportbet. The bet I made resulted as follows on the sportbet platform; https://i.hizliresim.com/KUy1NF.jpgAt first it was just writing pending. After waiting for some time, I talked to the admin to finalize my bet. She said that they received a payment stop notification from the provider related to the match. When I asked why, the match is actually not 4-2. she said it was 3-2. All the scores in different sources about the match that I made on Google were showing 4-2. I objected rightly. And she sent me the link to the match stream on twitch. I watched the game hundreds of times. At each goal, I watched the players' reactions after important positions. Finally, I recorded the video of the canceled goal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxV-sd_i0a0&list=TLPQMzEwNzIwMjCaim1yfh0kbw&index=1I do not know why. They did not react at all for the canceled goal. Normally a surprising position. I've tried many times to explain to the manager that things are not normal here. It's a fair platform. That's what they wrote on their platform. I made people watch the position. Everyone was saying it was a trick. One person did not say otherwise. I have contacted the manager many times. She said at first it was always a fair position. When people say that this is not a fair position, She said that they are a platform that only trades according to the result. She said we are not a referee. But; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177893.msg54909899#msg54909899Here they decided like a referee. I told her that this last match was unfair and that the amount of bet made had to be refunded. she told me that "we cannot do this, we take action according to the results". But here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266626.0here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266592.0here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266592.0and much more... they did not act on the results. Although it was not decided by a referee here, they considered the bets made void because they detected cheating. Even though it was a clear cheat in the game I bet on, they do nothing. WHY? because they won. her and my offers. https://i.hizliresim.com/mKGPJw.pnghttps://i.hizliresim.com/DV4GDt.pngorganizer and sportbet company connection: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256763.msg54656632#msg54656632Sorry, I don't know English. and I've been trying to explain my problem to people for months using only translate. and it's really hard to do that. Hope that justice will be served... Thank you.
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August 07, 2020, 07:37:38 PM Last edit: August 07, 2020, 07:53:39 PM by morvillz7z |
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Hi cabirr, If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker. In the screenshot below you can see that there is only one defender left and clearly in the moment of the pass, the offensive player is in offside, ruled correctly by the game. edit;There's a ball spinning from the goalkeeper. This position has nothing to do with offside. I wish there were. but not. the goalie does indeed bobble the ball, whether it's intentional or not it does not matter, this is textbook offside, at the time of the pass the striker is in offside position. https://twitter.com/terseterh/status/1274379779060502529
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August 07, 2020, 07:43:34 PM |
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There's a ball spinning from the goalkeeper. This position has nothing to do with offside. I wish there were. but not.
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August 07, 2020, 07:56:00 PM |
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I'm not familiar with these games , usually who are the ones that organize these events ? also in the other thread you said the following : there is cheating. all betting platforms accept the score as 4-2... You can do a search on google.
can you please get any type of link that confirms that ? I'm not even sure what I should type in google TBH also the twitch link you provided isn't working for me if the official score was 3-2 I really don't know how you can blame the site since it was the official score anyways but you are saying it ended 4-2 if I'm not mistaken ?
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August 07, 2020, 08:08:07 PM |
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I don't know how the results are now. Can't I blame the site? They're the ones who made this score end like this. It has nothing to do with e sports. When you watch the video, you will see it clearly. the players don't even react after the position. They were clearly instructed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177893.msg54909899#msg54909899 I want you to look over there.
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August 07, 2020, 09:16:30 PM |
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal. Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in.
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August 08, 2020, 09:11:45 PM |
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal. Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. Of course, if had not been intervened.
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August 09, 2020, 04:13:31 PM |
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If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker.
Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all.
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August 09, 2020, 04:32:01 PM |
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Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all. It was ruled out offside by the game itself, the game developer (in this case EA Sports) obviously doesn't know shit about football then... AFAIK, all these cyber-football matches that bookies offer are pre-recorded. I wouldn't bet on these even if they give me free money/credits.
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August 09, 2020, 06:02:38 PM |
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Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all. It was ruled out offside by the game itself, the game developer (in this case EA Sports) obviously doesn't know shit about football then... AFAIK, all these cyber-football matches that bookies offer are pre-recorded. I wouldn't bet on these even if they give me free money/credits. The problem is that this position is offside in unnatural ways. Without intervention, such a position is not to be offside. There are a lot of topic here regarding the voiding of table tennis bets. WHY? A fair platform... According to what? Your platform does fair things when it's only for their own benefit.
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August 09, 2020, 06:36:37 PM |
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Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all. It was ruled out offside by the game itself, the game developer (in this case EA Sports) obviously doesn't know shit about football then... AFAIK, all these cyber-football matches that bookies offer are pre-recorded. I wouldn't bet on these even if they give me free money/credits. You're just giving evasive answers. I was using the sportbet platform to bet. After seeing the complaints here, I started to think that I made a mistake. I don't want to be one of the people who started the topic here. If i remember football offside rules correctly (and if they haven't changed in recent years) you need goalkeeper + 1 defender or 2 defenders behind the striker.
Goalkeeper isn't mandatory at all. If striker is ahead of all the 10 players other than Goalkeeper when he got the ball passed, it will be offside. This one doesn't look like that at all. And definitely this position is not offside.
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August 09, 2020, 08:23:46 PM Last edit: August 09, 2020, 08:41:53 PM by DeathAngel Merited by morvillz7z (1) |
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal. Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. No, the offside rule applies from when the ball is played to the guy ruled offside (the second it leaves his team mates foot/chest/head). Both blue shirted players are in an offside position when the ball is played towards them. To be ONSIDE the dude receiving the ball would have to be level with or the other side of the GK (last defender in this play). Correct decision. I’ve been a huge football fan my entire life. If the GK was where he should be......in his goal then it would be ONSIDE.
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August 09, 2020, 09:28:35 PM |
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I'm not totally familiar with the offside rules but as far as I can tell, they apply when the ball is received and on none of those occasions could I see a player in the offside section. The ruling in the game should have been a goal. Totally out of my realm, though: someone more familiar with football should chime in. No, the offside rule applies from when the ball is played to the guy ruled offside (the second it leaves his team mates foot/chest/head). Both blue shirted players are in an offside position when the ball is played towards them. To be ONSIDE the dude receiving the ball would have to be level with or the other side of the GK (last defender in this play). Correct decision. I’ve been a huge football fan my entire life. If the GK was where he should be......in his goal then it would be ONSIDE. this position is not offside. it has nothing to do with it from a distance. there is a ball coming from the opponent goalkeeper. there is an opposing player hovering around the goal post. Football is my life. I am doing this job professionally.
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August 10, 2020, 03:40:06 PM |
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After hundreds of complaints, the final officials of the sport made changes to the cast. They even removed the information of the players who played in this match from their site. https://bpfive.org/ The first mistake they make is to publish these simple games. The second mistake is that they claim that I lost for a match whose outcome is never clear. They just sent me a broadcast about the match. I have thousands of doubts even that it covered the game I bet on. There are many topics opened here. After all, players' winnings were canceled. for as the match they bet on was not a fair event. Who can prove that my encounter was fair. There is only one difference. For canceled bets, the platform lost.
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August 10, 2020, 03:44:03 PM Last edit: August 10, 2020, 05:02:11 PM by saturent |
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cabir, create a flag against sportbet.one as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway.
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August 10, 2020, 04:22:43 PM |
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway. I'm sorry but what exactly is the connection between Sportbet.one and Sportsbet.io? To my knowledge, these two are totally different entities with absolutely nothing in common. Correct me if i'm wrong... They even removed the information of the players who played in this match from their site. https://bpfive.org/Are you referring to Budapest Five? "Budapest Five is a Hungarian professional esports organization."source: https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Budapest_FiveI'm pretty sure they play Counter-Strike exclusively.
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August 10, 2020, 04:32:32 PM |
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway. We need to take action. I have just created a flag for what happened to me( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2203) and we will only stop this fraud together. Hi, 100% nothing to do with sportsbet.io .... regards, steve. sportsbet.io
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August 10, 2020, 04:37:24 PM |
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway. We need to take action. I have just created a flag for what happened to me( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2203) and we will only stop this fraud together. Hi, 100% nothing to do with sportsbet.io .... regards, steve. sportsbet.io Is this related to the red horse fly on the blue mountain?
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August 10, 2020, 04:39:59 PM |
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cabir, create a flag against sportsbet.io as they will keep on ignoring the complaints against them anyway. I'm sorry but what exactly is the connection between Sportbet.one and Sportsbet.io? To my knowledge, these two are totally different entities with absolutely nothing in common. Correct me if i'm wrong... They even removed the information of the players who played in this match from their site. https://bpfive.org/Are you referring to Budapest Five? "Budapest Five is a Hungarian professional esports organization."source: https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Budapest_FiveI'm pretty sure they play Counter-Strike exclusively. It is so professional that it can be understood from the web sites and twitter addresses.
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