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August 08, 2020, 08:17:24 AM
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China is way ahead in terms of production import and export most of the products are manufactured in china and that they are processed everyone was surprised initially because the costs were so cheap i think china gives diversity to answer market needs. If there was no marketplace for cheap low-quality products because people would pay a touch more for quality china would stop producing cheap products and specialise in improved quality.

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August 08, 2020, 08:57:13 AM
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I think that will depend on how we use that product. If you buy some product, and the product is damaged, we can not judge that it is not good. I think nowadays, the producing in mass production is used robotic technology, so maybe there is one or two product that does not pass the quality control. Still, the employee forgets to eliminate that product with the other. I think that it is normal to see that one of that product is a break, and unfortunately, we are the end-user that used that product. But we can complain to the store that sells that product, and maybe we can get replaced with the other product.

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August 08, 2020, 09:20:56 AM
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Actually, your Iphone or samsung also made in China as well so this is not about the country its about the brand you are buying.When you are buying it for cheap then don't expect a quality long lasting product for the price you have paid. Tongue









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August 08, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
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Most manufacturers are from China because they have cheaper labor and nearer to their distribution. We can't do anything with it but if you have any means to check a quality product from other countries and you can avoid China-made products.

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August 08, 2020, 11:48:15 AM
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Yes, this is a common perception today, everything that is Made in China is junk. And according to an article,

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2015/03/12/made-in-china

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China produces about 80% of the world’s air-conditioners, 70% of its mobile phones and 60% of its shoes. The white heat of China’s ascent has forged supply chains that reach deep into South-East Asia. This “Factory Asia” now makes almost half the world’s goods.

So always everything that we used today has some form of signature coming from China. But it is still 50/50, you're lucky if you got something that is made in China that will last for years, LOL.

Nowadays nothing lasts for years.Capitalists produce products that last for 1-2 years,and then you have to buy another product.Long lasting products means less products sales,which is considered to be bad for the industry.
Products made in China are cheap,which means they are made using cheap components and cheap labor.
Of course they are junk,what else are you expecting?If you want quality,you have to pay more.
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August 08, 2020, 03:51:50 PM
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Not all products are junk. It depends on manufacturer and the price as well if you buy very cheap products they will be low in quality too.

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August 08, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
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Are you saying Covid-19 is junk? Smiley

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August 08, 2020, 03:54:53 PM
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It's like 50/50 chance what you buy is decent or junk.

Amazon isn't helping much, as re-sellers will sell you anything and there are a ton of fake reviews. It's a crap shoot.
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August 08, 2020, 07:25:52 PM
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For my country, most of the industries and tools that exist within it are Chinese industry and there is more than one type for this industry such as tools and cheap Chinese industry which is impractical There is also high-quality Chinese industry at a very high price
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August 09, 2020, 09:30:48 AM
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The range of quality for Chinese products goes from cheap and disposable up to expensive indistinguishable from certain brands in terms of quality. Obviously, the cheaper stuff tends to be known more, since its what people aims for more often than not.

The reason is simple: They do manufacture for the expensive brands as well. So they CAN, and DO sell expensive quality things as well. Well, usually the expensive stuff is still cheaper than the quality brands anyway, but not as cheap as the really cheap stuff.

Ideally people would have a choice, but often do not, unless they buy direct and already know what they are buying.

There are also shameless merchants that buy the cheap things and try to sell it like the good quality brands (and often imitating the brand name too).

The truth is, it depends in what you buy. Just because its made in China doesn't mean that is automatically crap.

For example i have a cheap Huawei cdma "feature" (not smart) phone from 2007, i just wanted something basic back then. Surprisingly, it still works, with the original battery which is mad. Sure its charge doesn't hold long nowdays, but its disturbingly working even after 13 whole years. I remember having a couple of similar Siemens phones die on me like 2~3 years after being in use. I also has some Samsung i bought after that didn't last even 4 years, one day it went off to never turn back on again, just like the Siemens. Of course i know people whose smartphones weren't so great. Also i have some Phillips led lamps that have been going for a decade with nearly daily 8hrs+ continuous use, while the more recent Chinese led bulbs i had already one die on my under a year. Of course the Phillips was like $60 while the Chinese isn't even $3.

I know for a fact that in the 70ies-80ies Japan had a similar reputation, but unlike China they never wanted to make cheap disposable stuff and currently their products are among the best. And yet what they sell in Japan is on a whole different level, than the same thing they sell abroad. It is also possible to see certain Chinese things sold in China being better than the (nearly) same thing exported.

Most of the "expensive" brands literally manufacture things abroad, often China, or Vietnam or similar poor country where they can pay miserable wages. In theory branded products have a better quality control, but that doesn't mean you cannot find a simillar quality product from a Chinese brand.

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Cheap products are junk, sometimes we buy something that costs 10x less than normal, and well, lower price less quality.
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August 11, 2020, 11:50:37 AM
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Pretty sure you still have a lot of Chinese products in your house even if you don't know it.

I recently bought a "German" condenser microphone and found out that "assembled in china" text

The problem is not the china, problem is that people don't want to work in manufacture.

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Cheap products are junk, sometimes we buy something that costs 10x less than normal, and well, lower price less quality.

The quality must be according to the price, because they manufacture in the bulk and people require at lesser price or due to competition from other places, they produce at the least prices gives them no choice other to use the substandard products to manufacture it. Thus, accordingly if it works for long consider yourself lucky or just use it and if stops working just throw it.

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August 11, 2020, 12:46:48 PM
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The old saying "You get what you pay for" isn't always true. Sometimes you can pay a lot of money for products that are rubbish. Governments and local authorities are very prone to do this. However you need to pay a fair price if you want quality. Of course, you can find some bargains in the clearance items, often you can save 70 or 80% of the original purchase price.

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August 11, 2020, 12:52:23 PM
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Today my gaming chair plastic cracked
4 days a go a cheap wallet that i had broke
Last week 2 t-shirts that i washed turned white
2 weeks ago i bought a cheap lighter ,pressed it to light my smoke ...guess what it broke

It's like anything that Chinese make is junk ... it's ridiculous

I would guess that theses are low end, cheaper items?

You get what you pay for.  If you want quality, they can make that as well, but it costs more.

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I've just bought an Alfa AWUS036H Wireless Adapter, and I'll pick it up later today. The product should be manufactured in Taiwan, and I'm hoping that I have the correct version. It seems that there are a lot of fake Chinese copies being sold on the internet. It is sometimes difficult to determine if you are being sold a fake, and price does not seem to be a useful guideline.

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Most of the products made in my country are also from China, but some are good products and some other products are very bad. As you know that there are several levels for these industries, the first elites are very good, while the rest of the levels are bad, and these bad levels are those that are exported to our countries.
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Correct, with Chinese products price alone doesn't cut it. You have to do your research and recognize the good from the bad, or have a very good trusted merchant. For large orders is always wise to ask for samples before committing. Often competition is fierce and some either take shortcuts or do more effort to keep their customers. You might be spoiled to a society and State that keeps you "safe", but step out of the borders of your country and you might find yourself in another planet. Even what you considered "junk" in your own country (perhaps at Walmart) is luxury elsewhere. And still. the Chinese Walmart imports expensive foreign products, or top notch Chinese ones. Its the place to get expensive stuff...

So yeah, its pointless to say Chinese products are this or that, its both and neither. You must not pass judgement because company a made product x bad. Heck, often company a can also make a great product y. But you can try and pick companies the same way you do at home; its only harder since they tend to have funny Chinese names, but those do matter to some of their owners (not all). There is also samples of State owned, mixed owned, or simply heavily involved companies. And there is the worldwide known coop called Haier, state based Chery, etc.

Until Trump leaves office, Americans might have to look elsewhere, but for the rest of us there is plenty of choice, including BAD choice, so pay attention.

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August 13, 2020, 05:31:47 PM
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I think most supplier and manufacturer are from China, even the famous or expensive brands like Nike, Apple, Canon, Adidas, etc because the items that are being used are cheaper in China. It is why most products nowadays are made from China, even their products are not durable enough they are still cheap.
the smallest capital and a large profit is the slogan for all companies that have factories in China...
the majority of the world's population is only concerned with price and not quality, and China offers cheap raw materials and low employee salaries to attract investors to go there, my advice is for important items such as cellphones and vehicles, don't buy Chinese products because they are at very risk of being damaged quickly.



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August 13, 2020, 05:46:15 PM
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I think most supplier and manufacturer are from China, even the famous or expensive brands like Nike, Apple, Canon, Adidas, etc because the items that are being used are cheaper in China. It is why most products nowadays are made from China, even their products are not durable enough they are still cheap.
the smallest capital and a large profit is the slogan for all companies that have factories in China...
the majority of the world's population is only concerned with price and not quality, and China offers cheap raw materials and low employee salaries to attract investors to go there, my advice is for important items such as cellphones and vehicles, don't buy Chinese products because they are at very risk of being damaged quickly.
If you are going to buy an electronic good then it is very rare to find a product which is not made form chinese and as you said every cellphone parts are made in China so no matter how much you are paying there will be a Chinese product present in it.But when it comes to Automobile they are still crap and most of their brands just copy the international car models.Even you can buy Rolls Royce copy for few thousands. Grin









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