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August 09, 2020, 03:59:19 PM
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That bitcoin rises and consequently the withdrawal fees rise, we are used to it, but this time some casinos have increased up to 300% or more, I do not know if anticipating that bitcoin continues to increase.

The increase should always be proportional to the increase in bitcoin or fairly close.

How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?

Let's go! It is not that they are so exorbitant amounts compared to some exchanges, for example.
But there are players who are moving their balances from one place to another looking for bonuses etc.

Generally those that move in a bankroll between $ 10 and $ 100. This affects them, a withdrawal commission of $ 3 after paying before (bitcoin price +/- $ 9500) $ 0.45 is taking away a percentage of profit from the players of the micro-bets.



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
High fees are definitely a deal breaker to me when it comes to playing in casinos because I do not really like the idea of leaving my coins in a casino because you never know when a hack is going to happen, as such I deposit very low amounts of money in the casino most likely thinking that I will lose everything but if I happen to win I want to withdraw that money and high fees are for the most part just another way for casinos exchanges to overcharge you and earn more money.

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August 09, 2020, 04:08:19 PM
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Why not use some casinos that accepts trx doge or some casinos that accepts crypto coins/tokens that has low fees? Right now there are numerous crypto that has different payment options but if you don't have any other crypto on your wallet then you have to digest what's really the fee the casino requires.

I don't have to change casino of course, I change my payment option usually the likes of XRP as it's more convenient as well.
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August 09, 2020, 04:18:11 PM
Last edit: August 10, 2020, 06:52:28 PM by famososMuertos
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Update: 08/09/2020
Update/edit: 08/10/2020
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Please feel free to contribute additional topics:

_ I have already commented on the reason for the increase in Fee. Several guesses with that, but "ready"

_ Yes! altcoin / shitcoin are alternative, it is not necessary to add more of that.

If you have any personal experience, specific recommendation, you would be contributing enormously.

If you know the casino fees of your campaign, it is good to know them if you know of others, also preferably add Bitcoin.

Anyway, add "substance," I'd appreciate it.




In the case of YOLOdice website, we can't deny that the withdrawal fees are significantly high which makes it impractical to withdraw such low amount of bitcoin. At the time of writing this, the "instant withdrawal" option will cost you for about 0.00117 BTC while the batch withdrawal will cost you for about 0.000585 BTC. That is why, it would be more appropriate to withdraw at least 0.03 - 0.05 amount of bitcoin on a regular basis whenever the mempool is congested.

Moreover, I also don't think if YOLOdice is making profit with regards to withdrawal. The reason why there is an increase of withdrawal fees is that ethan decides that the withdrawal fee must be proportional to the network fee and making sure that the transaction will be confirmed in the next few blocks possible.

There is nothing we can do but wait until the mempool transaction declined or cash out big.
Thank you, it is that one wants to read and even more so if it is in your signature "should" (that nothing forces it, but is restrictive from the point of what it does, promote a betting site) to know, I am surprised to read comments " like I don't gamble "or" I usually don't "and he's in Gambling and he's got a related signature.

Hopefully there will be more reading options like yours, # 2, and also from those who contribute in relation to the OP.


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This is to be expected I guess, especially in this time of pandemic because people started to prioritize first their needs and they only gamble a little compare before, that's why the gambling site increases their withdrawal fees, because they have a business to keep running as well as families to feed.

Just like what you have mentioned, clearly they are taking the advantage to take back the profits or bankroll they lost during the first wave of the pandemic. And I guess you shouldn't probably playing gambling if you're being bother by the sudden rise of their withdrawal fees cause that just means you can't afford to lose what you have.
Please! do not include or treat sensitive topics and try to relate them to my OP. I do not feel identified with your comment, not in how it intends to contextualize, if my OP led her to that, it is not the idea, my apologies.

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The OP is concerned about big player but they are not really the most affected because transaction fee is fixed to all withdrawal amount so that minimal fee will not gonna hurt them. Small players is the most affected and suffering huge withdrawal fee. It's better to gamble using altcoin like $XRP because it's fee is very cheap no matter what is the price of BTC.

Some Casino has built-in exchange, Players there are very lucky because they can avoid huge transaction fee of BTC by converting in to altcoins that has lower fee.
Don't change my context, in fact you are taking my idea in your answer.

It is not XRP or any other altcoin, it is bitcoin in the bet, the action to withdraw can be changed if the casino allows it, there are more "good" casinos that do not have it.

Understand something when you get used to making calculations in relation to the bet size potodds etc that are relevant, you cannot be using shitcoin (which is not limiting). I know that many here only know about slots, dice, sports bets.
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Gamblers won't withdraw from the casinos regularly. Most of the top rated casinos always give the best entire access to the users. We're responsible to take care of our funds with ultimate security.

Look into casineos casino, once on sign-up you need to secure your security key as well as recovery words. Further if you forget your password this is the only option to recover your funds. The team can't do anything in such situation. As there is no third party control over our funds why can't we withdraw at some specific time interval to avoid the fee.
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Withdrawal fee doesn't increase due to the price rise, its just increased due to more clogged network on the blockchain, and you can't blame the casinos and if you care about the increase in bitcoin's withdrawal fee then better move to altcoins to bet so you can save that micro bet you are talking about.But what I noticed is that withdrawal fee on the casinos are far less than while withdrawing from our wallets because casinos make batch withdrawals which can save fees in total.
Please do your research on the subject, do not target your answer based on things you have just read, perhaps in this thread, experience helps contextualize and knowledge to be accurate.

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August 11, 2020, 06:58:52 AM
Last edit: August 11, 2020, 02:41:19 PM by mersal
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That bitcoin rises and consequently the withdrawal fees rise, we are used to it, but this time some casinos have increased up to 300% or more, I do not know if anticipating that bitcoin continues to increase.

The increase should always be proportional to the increase in bitcoin or fairly close.

How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?

Let's go! It is not that they are so exorbitant amounts compared to some exchanges, for example.
But there are players who are moving their balances from one place to another looking for bonuses etc.

Generally those that move in a bankroll between $ 10 and $ 100. This affects them, a withdrawal commission of $ 3 after paying before (bitcoin price +/- $ 9500) $ 0.45 is taking away a percentage of profit from the players of the micro-bets.



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
Withdrawal fee doesn't increase due to the price rise, its just increased due to more clogged network on the blockchain, and you can't blame the casinos and if you care about the increase in bitcoin's withdrawal fee then better move to altcoins to bet so you can save that micro bet you are talking about.But what I noticed is that withdrawal fee on the casinos are far less than while withdrawing from our wallets because casinos make batch withdrawals which can save fees in total.
I think the other reason behind the sudden increase on casinos withdrawal fees is the pandemic and the demand. We are all suffering in the midst of this pandemic but still a lot of gamers and gamblers has their own ways to manage their time and effort to play even if most of us are suffering from food and money shortage that's why the management of the casinos decided to increase their fees in order for them to increase also the payment of their workers as a help for them.
No they won't do in that way, or else they are going to lose their customers, still the memepool is slightly clogged so I find the transaction fee little higher but low less compared to previous weeks so it all depends on the network not on the casinos itself.




Please do your research on the subject, do not target your answer based on things you have just read, perhaps in this thread, experience helps contextualize and knowledge to be accurate.
Yes I am following bustadice withdrawal fee where the fee is only based on the network requirements, previously the prices increased to $11,000 in this year but at that time where withdrawal fee for instant was about 50 bits only but now is is in the region of 200 bits for instant and 40 bits for regular batching withdrawal.
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August 11, 2020, 07:52:54 AM
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Why not use some casinos that accepts trx doge or some casinos that accepts crypto coins/tokens that has low fees? Right now there are numerous crypto that has different payment options but if you don't have any other crypto on your wallet then you have to digest what's really the fee the casino requires.

I don't have to change casino of course, I change my payment option usually the likes of XRP as it's more convenient as well.

most of the gambling casino we have now accepting other crypto currency so I don't think thats the real issue of the OP maybe he prefer to use bitcoin for gambling but he need to learn now how to use other crypto currency as alternative if they want to have low fees to be use for gambling.

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August 11, 2020, 11:52:13 AM
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Not a risk if we know how to manage that risk, if we think that the fee is something we can't take, why withdraw frequently? let your money sleep for awhile and just withdraw when the fee is already affordable.
Not all people can manage the risk, as I know (like me) only know bet button  Grin

LOL, you should learn how to, it's important to also know how to manage the risk and not just knowing the game, you'll realize that sooner when you fall with your own emotion and you act weird chasing your bets when you lose and would result to a lose beyond your expectation.


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August 11, 2020, 11:58:00 AM
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How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)

It would surely affect a lot of players since they are sacrificing at least large amounts of their profit by just withdrawing their winnings or funds. Maybe it bother others who have no additional income from other aspects in the Cryptocurrency Industry since gambling is really a great way to earn money if you are aware of its risks.

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August 11, 2020, 12:32:44 PM
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Why not use some casinos that accepts trx doge or some casinos that accepts crypto coins/tokens that has low fees? Right now there are numerous crypto that has different payment options but if you don't have any other crypto on your wallet then you have to digest what's really the fee the casino requires.

I don't have to change casino of course, I change my payment option usually the likes of XRP as it's more convenient as well.

most of the gambling casino we have now accepting other crypto currency so I don't think thats the real issue of the OP maybe he prefer to use bitcoin for gambling but he need to learn now how to use other crypto currency as alternative if they want to have low fees to be use for gambling.

If he knows how to convert his bitcoin to other coins, he will not have a problem in fees to withdraw the money. As you say, that now many gambling websites have the option to exchange from bitcoin to altcoin, which can help us to reduce the fees. It is no problem if he likes to use bitcoin to gamble, but it is better to convert it to altcoin if the fees are still too high.
Is there really gambling website where you can exchange bitcoin into selected altcoins? If yes can you give example because I want now to use altcoins because of the fees that keep rising. As a gambler, withdrawal fees are also factor and I want a gambling website have that kind of features where you can directly exchange your bitcoin in selected altcoins.
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August 11, 2020, 12:43:14 PM
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The increase in casinos withdrawal fees due to the rising price of Bitcoin is a problem for some people. Especially gamblers with small capital,
must be overwhelmed by the increase in withdrawal fees. Except online casinos that provide altcoins as a withdrawal option.Because choosing
withdrawal with altcoins like XRP, LTC and DOGE is much cheaper than withdrawing using Bitcoin. But if the online casinos only have Bitcoin
withdrawal options, of course I will replace them with other online casinos. Because I'm one of those people who have a small bankroll, so the
increase in withdrawal fees is burdensome for me.

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August 11, 2020, 01:02:03 PM
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These kinds of things are planned from the start, as soon as they see there are lots of people playing and withdrawing their money at a higher percentage than before. they need to think of a way to take advantage of the opportunity and there have you, a new way to gather money from the players without event using any tools or strategies. as simple as that, rising the withdrawal fees, the players will not have any option but to obey the new rules implemented by the Casinos.

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I understand casino owner's with this kind of move it's to protect their business, especially when Bitcoin had such a massive move through the upside, they will end up in losses for sure.
To those players who are unable to withdraw you should just deposited small amounts instead of big bankroll. This should be a lesson learned.

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August 11, 2020, 02:19:41 PM
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These kinds of things are planned from the start, as soon as they see there are lots of people playing and withdrawing their money at a higher percentage than before. they need to think of a way to take advantage of the opportunity and there have you, a new way to gather money from the players without event using any tools or strategies. as simple as that, rising the withdrawal fees, the players will not have any option but to obey the new rules implemented by the Casinos.

Good and perfectly fits from this situation, It's much easier for casino owners to ride with this and take advantage.
There's no way for gamblers not to follow in order to withdraw their funds.

This adjustment being imply inside the casino house is part of the process, that gamblers needs to embrace and adopt.

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August 11, 2020, 04:26:52 PM
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I understand casino owner's with this kind of move it's to protect their business, especially when Bitcoin had such a massive move through the upside, they will end up in losses for sure.
To those players who are unable to withdraw you should just deposited small amounts instead of big bankroll. This should be a lesson learned.
It should be the opposite since it becomes difficult and expensive to withdraw smaller deposits since you have to pay for the fee as well. While for those gamblers that have a bigger bankrolls it's never an issue even if the casino have a deposit rollover you only lose a very small amount.

I think i've mentioned this in a different thread but dinabot could be a good alternative for gamblers who play on some of the popular dice sites and transfer their balance between different casinos to look for the cheapest fee possible.

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August 12, 2020, 06:55:02 AM
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I understand casino owner's with this kind of move it's to protect their business, especially when Bitcoin had such a massive move through the upside, they will end up in losses for sure.
To those players who are unable to withdraw you should just deposited small amounts instead of big bankroll. This should be a lesson learned.
Not every crypto currencies transaction fees are higher st the current time so people who are going to deposit little money can switch to an altcoin which is more faster and cheaper.Doge coin is one of the coin used by most of the gamblers who don't want to pay such high withdrawal fee, any comment on this?









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August 12, 2020, 07:11:41 AM
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Actually, I have seen things happen in the opposite direction for two of the casinos I play at:)

Yolodice, for example, reduced their fees by half more or less, and FortuneJack actually went to completely zero fees for withdrawals. Bitvest doubled their though but they were quite small to begin with.

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August 12, 2020, 07:40:55 AM
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Casinos rising withdrawal fees makes no sense because after all the player pays for the transaction fees and not the casino. Essentially lifting the withdrawal fee up is nothing but a strategy of casinos to make more money as player would have to play more to be able to withdraw.
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Its the reality and we arent only experiencing this on gambling field but also in other services as well when bitcoins price tend to rally up then so as with it fees.

And this is where Altcoins would take in play..For small time gamblers then it would better to take this option yet fees wont really increase that much

compared to bitcoin but if you do really like on using up btc then you have to deal with it or simply just skip out and wait for fees to settle down.

I agree it's something that we will experience from time to time I remember experiencing this two years ago, and now some months ago again be prepare to take some options and you have other coins for options in case you don't want to deposit Bitcoin with higher fee, my coins of options are Litecoin, XRP and Tron.
For those who were not able to experience this kind of changes happen in cryptocurrency then pretty sure they will wonder why it happen. I conduct a google search on it before that it was happening and then direct me to a site telling that the high transaction fee is due to the high demand of miners or the numbers of transaction being made will make this as reason for the increase. More people are needing now the service of the miners which miners now are catering or prioritizing on those people who are willing to pay higher transaction fee to speed up the transaction.
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Its the reality and we arent only experiencing this on gambling field but also in other services as well when bitcoins price tend to rally up then so as with it fees.

And this is where Altcoins would take in play..For small time gamblers then it would better to take this option yet fees wont really increase that much

compared to bitcoin but if you do really like on using up btc then you have to deal with it or simply just skip out and wait for fees to settle down.

I agree it's something that we will experience from time to time I remember experiencing this two years ago, and now some months ago again be prepare to take some options and you have other coins for options in case you don't want to deposit Bitcoin with higher fee, my coins of options are Litecoin, XRP and Tron.
For those who were not able to experience this kind of changes happen in cryptocurrency then pretty sure they will wonder why it happen. I conduct a google search on it before that it was happening and then direct me to a site telling that the high transaction fee is due to the high demand of miners or the numbers of transaction being made will make this as reason for the increase. More people are needing now the service of the miners which miners now are catering or prioritizing on those people who are willing to pay higher transaction fee to speed up the transaction.

Yes, so higher the fees you pay top priority you get to get your transaction confirmed over others. So at times you see you have to pay higher amount when there is a huge transfer happening or withdrawals happening so the rates increases and when there is not much withdrawals transaction fees are less.

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August 12, 2020, 11:54:47 AM
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Each gambling site has a different withdrawal fees, therefore the solution might be to choose gambling sites with the lowest
withdrawal fees. But the problem is gambling sites with low withdrawal fees are not necessarily credible and reliable. So for me
it doesn't matter the increase in withdrawal fees, as long as the gambling sites are reliable, safe and comfortable.

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August 12, 2020, 01:49:23 PM
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Casinos rising withdrawal fees makes no sense because after all the player pays for the transaction fees and not the casino. Essentially lifting the withdrawal fee up is nothing but a strategy of casinos to make more money as player would have to play more to be able to withdraw.
Some casinos do it for the profit but there are other casinos that increase it because they have to keep up with the recommended transaction fee if not their players will complain as their withdrawal takes hours to confirm.

You don't have to play more unless their minimum withdrawal is very high. From my experience with casinos that have no fee usually you only need to clear the deposit rollover if you want to withdraw and sometimes these free withdrawals provided by casinos take more time(few hours) than the paid ones.


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