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August 08, 2020, 03:07:40 PM
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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

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August 08, 2020, 03:15:24 PM
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IMO, horse race bettor also need to have lot of knowledge related about horses and their previous history and it is important to know about all the running horses and their jockeys to find the probable winner so that makes them a good bettor and it changes depends on the game.If it is casino game then they should keep the bet amount in the median range so they can bet more time which might increase the chance of winning.

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August 08, 2020, 03:25:16 PM
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What makes a good bettor?
Money.

Skills doesn't matter if you're playing at a 50-50 basis.
All you have to do is to think where to play, and somewhat have the idea on how the game works.
Besides, there are several cases that even if you lose a hundred times you are still being considered as  good bettor, especially IRL.



But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses ...
Depends on your trip, If we're to bet on Horses I'll just go woth the flow and make a bet based on odds, No need to study 15-30 Horses and ther Jockeys about their stats and they ride it.
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August 08, 2020, 03:59:52 PM
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As what cabalism said is true if it is 50-50 but when it comes to betting that is not 50-50 is you should be knowledgeable what you want to bet. Take the post above as an example about horses. It is also the same other sports like basketball, soccer and more that needs gathering information in which team to bet.

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August 08, 2020, 04:05:34 PM
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What makes a good bettor?
If you think you're 51% correct most of the time. Well, a professional gambler according to stats are having 55% right bets of the time. You may take on yourself on that especially on the field of sports betting for example. Out of 10 for minimum or a hundred for maximum then try to analyse your outcome.


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August 08, 2020, 04:12:37 PM
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It's very much important to what are you betting on. For example, anyone without knowledge on soccer wpuld definitely bet on Real Madrid yesterday but the reality is Man City was way more stronger than Madrid. So, you must have to have knowledge on what you are betting on, no matter if it is horse race or soccer or even Kabadi.
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August 08, 2020, 04:53:52 PM
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
Yes, sometimes you don't need to know everything if you're going with a different strategy but having that bit of extra information than most bettor is always good. Taking advantage of the odds movement is a good strategy I know tykiwanuka did it a few times in his prediction thread and you could do it on live odds if you're fast enough. Knowing how to bet is one part to becoming a good bettor, i've seen other tipsters have a good profit record then all of a sudden it becomes negative after a few consecutive losses.

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August 08, 2020, 04:54:33 PM
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What makes a good bettor?
A good bettor should be such that evaluate the overall value and determine whether the risk is worth taking. Also, a good bettor should be such that will understand values in taking decisions irrespective of the sport s/he prefer to participate. Personally, whenever I choose to bet games of any kind, the first that came across mind is getting the needed information from such sport before make my final decision. History can be a good means to get insight which can help in success during decision making.

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August 08, 2020, 04:56:10 PM
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For me, people can be a good bettor, they need to have skills depending on what they are going to bet, and also knows how to handle their bets. I mean, let's say betting in horse racing, you need to have knowledge about the horses, jockey, and their history how well they do. But it's not just about it, you also need to know how to handle your money to avoid big losses. Losing is always there in betting, but if a bettor knows how to lessen his losses, then he can be successful at some point, IMO.
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August 08, 2020, 04:57:25 PM
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I agree with cabalism only if the odd type of betting is 50-50, but if you are betting on a different or riskier type of odd it is better to have at least a decent knowledge about the sport you are betting on. in this case Horse Racing.

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August 08, 2020, 05:06:06 PM
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IMO, horse race bettor also need to have lot of knowledge related about horses and their previous history and it is important to know about all the running horses and their jockeys to find the probable winner so that makes them a good bettor and it changes depends on the game.If it is casino game then they should keep the bet amount in the median range so they can bet more time which might increase the chance of winning.

If you know about the sports it better because then you will be able to bet on a better team but you can still lose the bet because not always the strong teams wins. Sometimes it is better to not knowing any team strength and just bet with your luck.  Smiley
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Apart from what has been said here, I think bankroll management is crucial. It is impossible to have long-term profits if you don't manage your bankroll well, no matter how well you bet.

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August 08, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
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I agree with cabalism only if the odd type of betting is 50-50, but if you are betting on a different or riskier type of odd it is better to have at least a decent knowledge about the sport you are betting on. in this case Horse Racing.

I have no knowledge of horse racing and hence i never bet on it. However i bet on other sports like cricket and football and i have knowledge about the teams and therefore i am able to make successful bets.
If you bet blindly, then the chances of your winning will be very less.









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In general, there are a thousand ways to be a good bettor. It requires a lot of dedciation, patience and time, which a lot of people do not have for various reasons.

But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)?

Knowing your stuff is always better, but you can also make money with some more "technical" betting, like Caan Berry does for example. Dude has no clue about horses, but is very successful in pre-match trading the markets.

Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?

It's about being able to spot valuable bets/spots (=what to bet). Add to it some discipline and a proper money management et voilá (=how to bet).

And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

I think this can be learned, but some people will have a hard time because of their temper. Most people lack in discipline and patience. You don't have to be perfect in all realms, but if you struggle a lot with discipline, then you will never be successful.



Money.

Skills doesn't matter if you're playing at a 50-50 basis.

I have read this multiple times and tried to understand what you mean, but didn't get it. Can you eloborate what is your thinking behind this ?

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August 08, 2020, 05:40:27 PM
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Apart from what has been said here, I think bankroll management is crucial. It is impossible to have long-term profits if you don't manage your bankroll well, no matter how well you bet.

Money management is really important. You will win many bets and lose many. This is not possible that you win all the bets or lose all the bets. But You can only make profit out of it if you know how much to invest in each bet and how to manage your money effectively.

If you won few big amounts in betting but at the same time lost all of that winning money in other bets, then you are not a successful gambler. 

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August 08, 2020, 06:10:54 PM
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What makes bettor good is when you know what side are you betting, the more background you know the more chances you are going to win. There are many things that an individual makes a good bettor, this also comes with bet discipline, you don't want all in in just single tap, you don't follow your instinct that fully, you don't mess with how fortune you think you got. The last I could think of is the game you are playing, you don't come to a play when you don't how to play the game, master the game and you'll be all good.
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Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
I would say knowing what you are betting on is the most important thing. But that doesn't make you good bettor, you should also know how to bet.  Only with the combined knowledge of knowing your bet and knowing how to bet, you can become a good bettor.



Money.

Skills doesn't matter if you're playing at a 50-50 basis.

I have read this multiple times and tried to understand what you mean, but didn't get it. Can you eloborate what is your thinking behind this ?

I believe he is mentioning about Hi-Lo, heads-or-tails types of games, where you literally don't need a skillset to place a bet even though you can devise a strategy on how to bet.
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August 08, 2020, 08:48:55 PM
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That very much depends on what you bet. In sports betting is very helpul if you have some knowledge and information about the sport you bet on. In some other games, like dice you mainly depend on luck however, I would say that good bettor needs to have something that I would call a sixth sense or hunch, that special feeling to make good assesment and decision when betting.

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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)?

I do bet on horse racing via an administrative panel application during these long periods of the pandemic. All I can say is, there's no such thing as purely relying on luck and random guesses. For a newbie, they might be confused about where to place bets so to solve this, they will just follow how many bets were already put on a certain horse. Whatever the odds, they will pick to it (there's a countdown to place the bet).

But guess what, even with the most anticipated pick it's not an assurance that there's a high winning chance. The key to increasing the chance of winning is game familiarization and that includes awareness about the horse and its jockey. I'm amazed at these people who can analyze the horse before the race and I gained knowledge too because of this. Overall, I can say that knowledge about the horse is a necessary knowledge is a person wants to gamble in horse-racing for the long-term. If it's just about trying something new and doesn't have a plan to bet here for long then I suggest just rely on those odds.

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August 08, 2020, 09:39:55 PM
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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

All are possibilities but we cant really point out which would be the main reason because no man can know about everything into certain things.Being a good bettor will really be needed of some analysis
yet we know that this will really give a big impact when it comes to our winning rate but of course luck will always be the main player.For those people who we do see that able to win
neither he's just tailing someone or do make some gut feeling kind of bets then its his own way to play.Luck is just purely on his side on winning without minding much or making
some in depth analysis of the game.

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As you've said it, people should know a lot of things to the games or sports they are betting on. Without this knowledge to a certain game you are betting, you are increasing your risk of losing. Even if you are following someone's bet, you are blindly betting at it. You can analyze games, performance and matchups to be able to see your probability of winning.

It doesn't give you a 100% win since there are those games that are unexpected.

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You don't have to be skilled in able for you to bet. Sportsbooks don't have any specific rule of being skilled as a requirement before you can bet.
Betting can make a bettor good if he keeps on accepting the learning process. The loss bets and other things he learn as he bet.

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A good bettor never quit whihc s(he) keeps trying, there is perfection of a good bettor because their predictions seems to might have failed in so many times but what actually makes them good is consistency, keeping trying as to hitting big in the future meanwhile not minding on the amount lost so far as this brings back bad memories on them.
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  • Money - Important thing for gambling
  • Skills on Selecting the right odds to win
  • Information gathered about the game
  • Not depending on gambling for living
  • Proper Money Management - The limit &
    Control on Spending
These all things ok but one very important thing which is you missing its luck because without luck you cannot do any thing even you can lost hot favourite horses and sports bets I have one personal expereince in this case once I place a bet on horse he was winning but suddenly some accident happen and leg is broken so I lost after this I have lesson luck is also very important for this.
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  • Money - Important thing for gambling
  • Skills on Selecting the right odds to win
  • Information gathered about the game
  • Not depending on gambling for living
  • Proper Money Management - The limit &
    Control on Spending
These all things ok but one very important thing which is you missing its luck because without luck you cannot do any thing even you can lost hot favourite horses and sports bets I have one personal expereince in this case once I place a bet on horse he was winning but suddenly some accident happen and leg is broken so I lost after this I have lesson luck is also very important for this.
Agreed on the statement, but here it is asked what makes one good bettor. If it was mentioned what makes a bettor or gambler win, then I could've added the luck to the list. Without luck one cannot win, but with all these mentioned data one can be a good bettor. Here rather than winning, how he takes forward on wins and losses were much discussed.
Then its OK because you already mention good enough for this all because we all need just these things for good bettor but very few peoples follow these all because these all things need some good time and work.
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August 08, 2020, 11:13:52 PM
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As you've said it, people should know a lot of things to the games or sports they are betting on. Without this knowledge to a certain game you are betting, you are increasing your risk of losing. Even if you are following someone's bet, you are blindly betting at it. You can analyze games, performance and matchups to be able to see your probability of winning.

It doesn't give you a 100% win since there are those games that are unexpected.
There’s a lot of factors to be a good bettor, the very important thing is knowledge and luck. Agree with that knowledge is the most important thing you have to conduct a study before placing a bet like the history of their game, their previous wins and the health of the team or players. For us to be more successful bettor we should do our best to evaluate everything as much as we can.
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August 08, 2020, 11:34:05 PM
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There are many things that can make us good bettors, including how to manage the capital we have, because like many members here
say playing 50-50 is very important the financial arrangement we have. Another thing is the knowledge we have, examples when playing
football betting, we must know the quality of the teams that will compete. And the last one is related to our experience of betting,the longer
our experience of playing betting should sharpen our instincts when deciding on betting.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

For me what makes a good bettor if he can hold his sh*t and not be addicted on gambling. Discipline is what makes a gambler a better one. Why? Because despite that you win nor you have skills, gambling is just in fact a game of luck, with dozens of doors that you wouldn't know what's behind. Hence, no matter how smart and clever you are in playing gambling games/betting in it, you will always be a bad one if you don't even know how to manage yourself.
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A good bettor in horse races/sports and something of the like requires more patience and research rather than skill. It's a rather tedious task since if you really want to win, you're going to have to put out statistical data and analyze them well. If you want to be as sure as possible, you can possibly ask information about how each team trains, how each horse trains and what events they experienced in the past few weeks before the event, though chances are slim due to most of that being personal but well, you can try your luck in researching about it.

A good bettor never quit whihc s(he) keeps trying, there is perfection of a good bettor because their predictions seems to might have failed in so many times but what actually makes them good is consistency, keeping trying as to hitting big in the future meanwhile not minding on the amount lost so far as this brings back bad memories on them.
Keep trying while knowing why you lost. Trying doesn't bring out benefits, just like how continuous pushups MAY provide you with abs or something, it isn't really good since you're not exercising your entire body PLUS you aren't adjusting your diet with it. To know what to do as well as to know how to do it is what betting is.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
In gambling experience is the best teacher you will develop a hunch or a feel as you continue gambling on a particular game and about horse racing it involves skill based on checking each horses that will fit other horses to a particular race, there are horses that can run effectively in a long mile and some horses are good in short stretch, there are a lot of factors to consider.

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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)?
Maybe you can use the physique of the horse, the popularity of the jockey or even the records of that horse as your basis. Well, it's very hard to predict the winner of such game because there are many competitors thus getting a smaller probability for a single player to win plus all of them almost looks the same so you can't recognize who's the strongest. Hmm, in this sport, I guess you might lose a lot of money first before establishing a good strategy on betting because experience is necessary. That's why I only stick on betting with 1v1/team sports that I knew since I find them easier to predict Grin.
Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?
For me, both. You should understand the principles of gambling, the pros and cons if you bet huge and small, and everything about it as a whole. At the same time, you should know also the place where you risk your money in order to increase your chances of winning. Of course not everything is based on luck, you can outwit the system Wink.
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As you've said it, people should know a lot of things to the games or sports they are betting on. Without this knowledge to a certain game you are betting, you are increasing your risk of losing. Even if you are following someone's bet, you are blindly betting at it. You can analyze games, performance and matchups to be able to see your probability of winning.

It doesn't give you a 100% win since there are those games that are unexpected.
There’s a lot of factors to be a good bettor, the very important thing is knowledge and luck. Agree with that knowledge is the most important thing you have to conduct a study before placing a bet like the history of their game, their previous wins and the health of the team or players. For us to be more successful bettor we should do our best to evaluate everything as much as we can.

We can't rely on luck though.

People says they can feel it, but we can't see it, we can't measure it so we don't know whether we are lucky or not. And if we don't know that we are lucky, how can we say that we are a good bettor? Lucks comes along the way, knowledge and skill is the most important, the same as the money.
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August 09, 2020, 05:48:54 AM
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If it is betting on, say, a lottery where the chance of winning is one in a million, I guess there is not much to know and understand about it. So, most probably, you will just blindly place your bet on a specific number you consider lucky.

That would be different if you are betting on sports or horse race. At the very least, the people or animals involved have their individual or team records. Their games and performances have patterns, styles, chemistry, strength, weakness, and other unique characteristics.

I believe that knowing all of these and making a brilliant and informed analysis out of them would give you a significant edge of winning.

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Discipline. It's one of the (if not the) most important things you have to have under control in order to avoid large financial damage. It doesn't help to know as much as possible about the sports you are about to bet on if you are going for insane bet odds and can't help but go all in every time. Same goes not only for sports betting, but for pretty much any other kind of gambling. By having discipline, you can take losses much easier and going bankrupt is a significantly lower probability.
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I have done horse racing betting: and the topic I ask: Start betting on horse racing gambling, I need a lot of advice to determine a win and I have all the information here.

Suggestion: for the OP, currently horse racing has become a popular gambling among men so far, and it has become a favorite sport today, I used to doubt it but all of that can be resolved.
If you know some (tips and strategies) in horse racing gambling such as: horses have a good history, record jockeys who do well in horse running, This is very important, if you are involved in horse racing gambling on your own make your choices wisely to get an absolute win.

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August 09, 2020, 06:38:39 AM
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things?
Of course, you have to know which horse you're betting at. Not sayin' that odds doesn't help, but it is better to know at least, necessary stuff about those horses, same thing with jockeys -- maybe previous games or their background is more than enough. As it would give you another layer of assurance on which to put your bet on.

Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
Nah, they don't just exist Grin. Bear in mind that, sports betting or that horse race game isn't a game base on luck. It is something more than what you think  Wink.
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August 09, 2020, 06:40:41 AM
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What makes a good bettor? I think it is a combination of traits and habits you need to have in order to be called a good bettor.
Discipline and knowledge is the top of the top things you need to have in order to be a good bettor. Risk is everywhere in gambling in fact gambling itself is already a risk. Betting on horse races does require knowledge about the horses backgrounds and their jockeys. Discipline on how much you are just going to spend so you wont go zero even if you lose.

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August 09, 2020, 07:51:21 AM
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What makes a good bettor? I think it is a combination of traits and habits you need to have in order to be called a good bettor.
Discipline and knowledge is the top of the top things you need to have in order to be a good bettor. Risk is everywhere in gambling in fact gambling itself is already a risk. Betting on horse races does require knowledge about the horses backgrounds and their jockeys. Discipline on how much you are just going to spend so you wont go zero even if you lose.
If you able to understand how the games works you can become a good bettor but it is not enough because if you will be stagnant where you do not have plan to polish your skills in gambling, there is a high chance that you may experience consecutive losses or even big losses. Gaining experience is also important in order to become used especially in unexpected situation.

Being a good bettor means that you understand the risks very carefully where you are just putting the money that you can lose. In terms of betting in horses, it not always pure luck; there are some bettor who are researching first in order to find their favorite horse before they bet money on it. There are skills that needed to enhance and develop even if you are betting ina horse competition.
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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

Since you are asking about horse races, there are a lot of factors to consider too just like any other sports. Maybe we are just that knowledgeable about it but there are factors such as, the number of race the horse already had, the trainer, speed, pace. track. form and etc. A horse bettor watches replays too so they could know how powerful the horse is. They are combining a lot of factor too before betting on a horse. But I've read some highly thought of the trainer.

Betting in general should need discipline to learn about the game. Whether in esports or in local casinos. Others are skill-based and some are just pure luck.

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Betting in general should need discipline to learn about the game. Whether in esports or in local casinos. Others are skill-based and some are just pure luck.
For me, even the gambling is purely luck or some other are skill-based. We should still need to manage our funds.
Being a good bettor also needs know how to manage her/his funds/balance, like risk management. We should also practice this, especially if you go all-in always, it's really not a good idea at all.

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What makes a good bettor? I think it is a combination of traits and habits you need to have in order to be called a good bettor.
Discipline and knowledge is the top of the top things you need to have in order to be a good bettor. Risk is everywhere in gambling in fact gambling itself is already a risk. Betting on horse races does require knowledge about the horses backgrounds and their jockeys. Discipline on how much you are just going to spend so you wont go zero even if you lose.

Betting on horses is not easy as you need to have their full history, how are they trained, what they eat, who is the jockey, their experience etc. The research part is very important in order to have an edge over others. Discipline is also very vital in gambling else you may end up losing very easily if you do not know when to stop.

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August 09, 2020, 09:21:44 AM
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It's knowing the game and putting your passion to it.

Just like a competition, your aim is to win so you will have to work for it, gambling is just different as you have to take the risk, but winning is possible.

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August 09, 2020, 09:30:39 AM
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What makes a good bettor?
Money.

Skills doesn't matter if you're playing at a 50-50 basis.
All you have to do is to think where to play, and somewhat have the idea on how the game works.
Besides, there are several cases that even if you lose a hundred times you are still being considered as  good bettor, especially IRL.
But if your point is that it's not skill-based on something like that, then money also won't make a good bettor, right? The person would just be losing it slowly... I don't think it's the good bettor case if you had lots of money, lost lots of money, but still have lots of money remaining...
What makes a good bettor?
A good bettor should be such that evaluate the overall value and determine whether the risk is worth taking. Also, a good bettor should be such that will understand values in taking decisions irrespective of the sport s/he prefer to participate. Personally, whenever I choose to bet games of any kind, the first that came across mind is getting the needed information from such sport before make my final decision. History can be a good means to get insight which can help in success during decision making.
I also tend to think history is useful, but somehow whenever I try to analyze history and make a decision, I still lose Grin Because the history is often like win-lose-lose-win-win-win-lose, and you don't know what it's going to be this time.
Apart from what has been said here, I think bankroll management is crucial. It is impossible to have long-term profits if you don't manage your bankroll well, no matter how well you bet.
I guess managing the bankroll properly might be necessary, but it's not sufficient to be a good bettor.
  • Money - Important thing for gambling
  • Skills on Selecting the right odds to win
  • Information gathered about the game
  • Not depending on gambling for living
  • Proper Money Management - The limit &
    Control on Spending
If one of the criteria is not relying on income from gambling, I think it presupposes that steady income is not possible with this, even for a successful bettor. Is that what you mean?
me what makes a good bettor if he can hold his sh*t and not be addicted on gambling. Discipline is what makes a gambler a better one. Why? Because despite that you win nor you have skills, gambling is just in fact a game of luck, with dozens of doors that you wouldn't know what's behind. Hence, no matter how smart and clever you are in playing gambling games/betting in it, you will always be a bad one if you don't even know how to manage yourself.
I don't get addicted to gambling or anything I've tried so far with which some have addiction issues (like alcohol and computer games). However, it doesn't make me good at betting, unfortunately. Yeah, I won't lose too much money because I'm very cautious about spending money, but I won't earn money this way either, and that's not what constitutes a good bettor to me.

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August 09, 2020, 09:38:50 AM
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Self Control.

Probably this isn't the best one but for me it makes a bettor good. Learning when to stop and when to go is for me a good attitude of a good bettor. There are some things that makes a good bettor too but most of them are purely traits like self discipline, self control, patience, risk management, money management etc.

Money will be useless if you don't know when to stop especially when you are winning. Maybe people who are believing in some beliefs can make it too Cheesy.

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August 09, 2020, 09:51:27 AM
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Sports betting, analysis is needed but it doesn't mean it will always go that way.
Most of the time, not. Depends on how good a player could be. There will always be the off nights.
Expectations could also fog decisions. But yeah, it needs knowledge and updates about the sport.

Horse racing, I think you would need the same. Analysis, knowledge about the horse.
That might only be the twist of it, unlike multiplayer sports where you would need to keep track of every player that has an impact for the team.
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August 09, 2020, 11:24:28 AM
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Of course, to bet on something, you need to understand how it works.
Just like in football, in racing, every horse is unique, every horse is trained and prepared. Each has its own genetic characteristics and mileage.

I don’t know how things are with doping there, but it’s obvious that it is necessary to understand at least the basic principles of horse training and their characteristics in order to understand their capabilities and potential chances of winning.
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As you've said it, people should know a lot of things to the games or sports they are betting on. Without this knowledge to a certain game you are betting, you are increasing your risk of losing. Even if you are following someone's bet, you are blindly betting at it. You can analyze games, performance and matchups to be able to see your probability of winning.

It doesn't give you a 100% win since there are those games that are unexpected.
There’s a lot of factors to be a good bettor, the very important thing is knowledge and luck. Agree with that knowledge is the most important thing you have to conduct a study before placing a bet like the history of their game, their previous wins and the health of the team or players. For us to be more successful bettor we should do our best to evaluate everything as much as we can.

I don't know about luck because I don't see it as a trait that we can use. Maybe the most important of all traits comes with management; that includes yourself and your money you are using to bet. There are a lot of times that a gambler can't control himself from gambling, we can't call him a good bettor, right? The same with those that can't stop betting even if he really needs to.

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August 09, 2020, 12:26:03 PM
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There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)?
If you are a sports bettor you need to be interested in the sport you are betting and you need to know about everything including the players and their injuries to be a successful bettor and when it comes to horse racing you need to understand and learn about the horse and their well being and i would say it is a much difficult choice of betting than any other sport.
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August 09, 2020, 12:40:01 PM
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Betting on something is easy, everyone can do that but betting with confidence that you'll be able to win the round is difficult. It takes a lot of time and effort to study or to be familiar as much as possible in the game you're going to bet or play. Only few people like 3 out of 10 (IMO) are willing to take the risk in the long run, those kind of people have the biggest resolve and never go back.

So in the end, they win the game. Whenever they bet, they would always win. They are still losing but not too much unlike the first time they started betting or playing gambling.
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August 09, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
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There are instances that someone will become a good bettor like for example that person really loves basketball and if he will
gamble in basketball there is a big chance that he can be a good bettor as he is very familiar to it.

Being familiar to the team who plays will give you an advantage, meaning you will not loss easily compare to those gamblers who
are only betting base on their instinct without a deep knowledge about the players or the team who are playing. If you want to gamble in sports
then it will be good if you know about the sports that you want to gamble as it will serve as you advantage though it is not necessary but it is very useful.
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August 09, 2020, 01:51:14 PM
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Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?
How to bet is too basic, anyone who have already tried gambling knows how to bet, but the next one is very important, know what you are betting on because if you want to win in gambling, you need to focus on a limited games, if possible, you focus on one game so you can master it.

In my case, I love sports betting, I know basketball, soccer, MLB, and NFL, but my passion is basketball so I am focus on basketball only when it comes to betting, and I can say I have improve easily as I love what I'm doing.

This is certainly for long term if you want to succeed as this journey is very challenging and the ultimate success here is to be consistent.

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August 09, 2020, 02:04:13 PM
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Self Control.

Probably this isn't the best one but for me it makes a bettor good. Learning when to stop and when to go is for me a good attitude of a good bettor. There are some things that makes a good bettor too but most of them are purely traits like self discipline, self control, patience, risk management, money management etc.

Money will be useless if you don't know when to stop especially when you are winning. Maybe people who are believing in some beliefs can make it too Cheesy.
I strongly agree with your statement bro.

In everything in this world, self-control is a must. Controlling our own desires, greediness and emotions are the hardest thing that we can`t do. In fact, many people have lose their funds because they can`t control their emotions. They are being manipulated by the game and prizes. They thought that having a double times money will become easy at all rounds. That is why many gamblers have been rekt when they are winning in casinos.

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August 09, 2020, 02:17:00 PM
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As what cabalism said is true if it is 50-50 but when it comes to betting that is not 50-50 is you should be knowledgeable what you want to bet. Take the post above as an example about horses. It is also the same other sports like basketball, soccer and more that needs gathering information in which team to bet.

In 50-50 you really need to be lucky when dealing with the risk. It is a matter of choice on depending on the odds and your preferences. As what @cabalism have said, it doesn't matter where to bet because at the end of the day, it is luck that will make you win that game.

In terms of horse racing, you should know the odds, the horse with the low and high odds so you have basis on where you will place your bet and also you are confident about your money. At least, you have basis, but if you still lose, that's really a problem because you are not lucky that time as a bettor.

In some gambling games, there's a good bettor, but if it is a luck-based game, feel free to bet depending on your mood.
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August 09, 2020, 02:33:00 PM
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Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?
How to bet is too basic, anyone who have already tried gambling knows how to bet, but the next one is very important, know what you are betting on because if you want to win in gambling, you need to focus on a limited games, if possible, you focus on one game so you can master it.

In my case, I love sports betting, I know basketball, soccer, MLB, and NFL, but my passion is basketball so I am focus on basketball only when it comes to betting, and I can say I have improve easily as I love what I'm doing.

This is certainly for long term if you want to succeed as this journey is very challenging and the ultimate success here is to be consistent.
Its isnt bad for you to consider on having multiple sports as long you do know it then its your choice to bet on it.Just be sure that you are just making some wild guess

just because you do just target on having multiple bets or just following other tips as well.Being pro in a certain sport is attainable but its up to your own choice if you
do just focus on one or stick with it on the end.

Betting on something is easy, everyone can do that but betting with confidence that you'll be able to win the round is difficult. It takes a lot of time and effort to study or to be familiar as much as possible in the game you're going to bet or play. Only few people like 3 out of 10 (IMO) are willing to take the risk in the long run, those kind of people have the biggest resolve and never go back.

So in the end, they win the game. Whenever they bet, they would always win. They are still losing but not too much unlike the first time they started betting or playing gambling.
If you do know how to balance up everything and do accepts risk which  is primarily needed in gambling world then frustration and stress wont really be that a much an impact compared to
those who do just play just because they do expect too much for them to win everytime which is really not right.

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August 10, 2020, 02:22:26 AM
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It all depends on what game are you betting on, there are games that you need to use analysis and knowledge about the sports or teams involved like sports betting, skills, and experience like card games, and some are based on luck like dice, crash and etc. Bankroll management and being patient and self-control will also lead you to lesser risk. Sometimes our emotions and being greedy leads us to a stupid mistake and losses.
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August 10, 2020, 03:06:38 AM
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If that person wants to bet on horse races, he should know the horse, and perhaps, he will need to learn details about the horse, including how to select the right horse. It is the same for the other sports because that is the only thing that we can do to choose the right team/player/horse. Besides that, he needs to what strategy he can use in every match because I am sure that the situations will not be the same in every match.

That is about knowing how to bet and what you're betting because that is related to each other. If people can achieve success or a regular basis without having much knowledge as others, I think that is because he has big luck in those sports, and I believe that person exists, although we don't know who they are.
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August 10, 2020, 03:20:16 AM
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It all depends on what game are you betting on, there are games that you need to use analysis and knowledge
not on the game but on the person playing the game .you can say dice and other casino games are luck based but why there are people that implement a stratetgy on them and even me i analyze my play from time to time . thats one of the steps to make us a good bettor   .

 i dont consider the people that plays for fun as a good bettor because they dont have thier own strategy , they just bet and bet until they got enough
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August 10, 2020, 06:16:30 AM
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You know what a good thing in gambling is? random outcome. But with what you said about Esports, Horce Betting, and same gambling categories, outcomes could be predicted especially in cockpits, when a cock is well nourished and trained, it could have a higher percentage of winning compared to slot games dice and cards which produces absolutely random outcome. Esports in addition is like this, players could have a huge difference in skills that is why team managers choose the best among the rest. Then what does this means? We might have a good profit if we aren't just bet. We also need to study and spectate player's improvement.
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You know what a good thing in gambling is? random outcome. But with what you said about Esports, Horce Betting, and same gambling categories, outcomes could be predicted especially in cockpits, when a cock is well nourished and trained, it could have a higher percentage of winning compared to slot games dice and cards which produces absolutely random outcome. Esports in addition is like this, players could have a huge difference in skills that is why team managers choose the best among the rest. Then what does this means? We might have a good profit if we aren't just bet. We also need to study and spectate player's improvement.
Gambling is all about probability so it is not pure luck and random outcome, a good bettor or a good gambler should have right skills and right mindset especially if the game requires skills like horse betting, esports and sports betting. There are some games where it doesn't require high skill level like playing dice games and slots.

Patience with right knowledge can make a gambler to become a good bettor, there are some bettors who usually lose huge amount of money because they are not fully understand what are they into, they just betting through guess. If we have right knowledge and right mindset, we can create a strategy and plan that can help us to become a good bettor where we can have high winning rate.
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August 10, 2020, 07:26:49 AM
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It all depends on what game are you betting on, there are games that you need to use analysis and knowledge about the sports or teams involved like sports betting, skills, and experience like card games,
You have a chance to become a successful gambler here, when you are focus with games that you can use your skills, you can grow your skills.
Sports betting is one good example, you analyze the game and since nowadays data is not hard to find, you can always use that to come up with a great analysis, but it doesn't make you a winner all the time, understanding that you need to win most of the time is very important as that's what you should do in order to be profitable in the long run.

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and some are based on luck like dice, crash and etc.

You can't win in these games if you like to experience consistency, luck based games are very unpredictable, so don't focus on this, instead do it for fun alone.



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Bankroll management and being patient and self-control will also lead you to lesser risk. Sometimes our emotions and being greedy leads us to a stupid mistake and losses.

Definitely you need bankroll management, and in order to effectively do that, you also need to be a discipline gambler that you don't get heated when you faces some adversities in your gambling journey. Controlling your emotion is one key to become professional as we gamblers should play according to the game plan we design, it's meant to be followed all the time.
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August 10, 2020, 08:34:27 AM
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In my opinion a good bettor are those not really addicted in playing gambling games. Most of the abusive gamblers most likely to fail or lost cash in their hands. Emotions could not let them decide correctly and this is the most reason of losses (bad decision making).

I myself do bet and I do bet huge. One time betting as usual. When I go lost in it then will go home early but if I win on it then I will also go home early bagging the winning cash. This is how I bet and it makes me happy when I can make a straight wins within the week.
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August 10, 2020, 09:30:50 AM
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To become a good bettor requires a long gambling experience, because the experience of gambling makes our thinking more mature.
And our gambling abilities will also increase, so we can adjust the bankroll to be used. Another thing you must owned in order to be
a good bettor is to control our desire to play gambling. If we don't get addicted it means have managed to control the desire to play
gambling, this will make you a good bettor.

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August 10, 2020, 09:39:31 AM
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I think horse racing could also be skill-based betting. I guess if you are betting on the fastest horses, you would be watching the past performances of the horse-riders. You could also consider the horses health, strength, horse-type, weather, food, health of the riders, etc. I don't know horse racing that much though. Am abit interested in the game but know nothing deep about it.

It's possible to structure some kinds of betting games in certain ways and they become regular income for good bettors. Am not assuming that there are no betting game that don't provide regular/consistent income for the bettors. I think I have seen few users here claim they or others earn consistently in betting games/competitions. I do not doubt this. I think it's possible.
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If we don't get addicted it means have managed to control the desire to play
gambling, this will make you a good bettor.

As a gambler, we need to have the desire but at the same time we need to be discipline so that desire of us will give us a positive result.
Making money in gambling is for me the hardest job on earth, however, since it's not impossible to win, we can always try if we are capable of doing it.

To become a good bettor, it needs to be evaluated base on our outcome, if we are consistently profitable, then that tells we are a good bettor.
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It's no doubt that you need the skills or atleast the intelligence to analyze some possible outcomes, its the same as trading you gather data and predict possible outcomes based on the data provided and using the necessary tools. So analysis is a must, but also luck. After all its all about probability it really doesn't matter, if you've analyze when something unexpected happens.

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A good bettor for me is if you really do know your bet, you studied, think, research on which team are you going to bet it's for sports betting but in regards with the casino a good bettor should know his limit and be able to control himself from greed if he won and can control his temptation if he lose.

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August 10, 2020, 07:53:14 PM
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I guess if it is horse race I will just look on their previous performance to have a better chance to win. Personally  I like sports betting than purely luck based games. Chances on winning in sports bet is really high if it is only played by 2 teams or 2 person like basketball and boxing, you only need to select one of the team and thats it. Knowing the capability and ability of who you are betting on really helps but anything can happen in a sport, anyone can  make a comeback.
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You know what a good thing in gambling is? random outcome. But with what you said about Esports, Horce Betting, and same gambling categories, outcomes could be predicted especially in cockpits, when a cock is well nourished and trained, it could have a higher percentage of winning compared to slot games dice and cards which produces absolutely random outcome. Esports in addition is like this, players could have a huge difference in skills that is why team managers choose the best among the rest. Then what does this means? We might have a good profit if we aren't just bet. We also need to study and spectate player's improvement.
Gambling is all of probability so it is not pure luck and random outcome, a good bettor or a good gambler should have right skills and right mindset especially if the game requires skills like horse betting, esports and sports betting. There are some games where it doesn't require high skill level like playing dice games and slots.

Patience with right knowledge can make a gambler to become a good bettor, there are some bettors who usually lose huge amount of money because they are not fully understand what are they into, they just betting through guess. If we have right knowledge and right mindset, we can create a strategy and plan that can help us to become a good bettor where we can have high winning rate.
It all depends on what kind of gambling game you are into neither strategy based or pure luck ones.Making yourself good at it will be much consider if you do deal into those games or betting that do require sufficient knowledge on a specific sports or events.If not then you are just blindly making up some guess or some people do just follow others hints or tips.At op had mentioned that if they do win,then it can be considered as a good bettor? You can call them like that because no matter what strategy they've been using then it all counts when you do profit neither you do make hard analysis or simply just make wild guessing and as
long you do know your financial limits then thats what makes you good.

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A good bettor for me is if you really do know your bet, you studied, think, research on which team are you going to bet it's for sports betting ...

I agree on this and if that is a bettor whose been betting for a long time, there are these times that he doesn't need to analyze nor think of what team he will be betting on. That is because of the knowledge he has on thay game. He knows who is on that team and the opponent's team, he knows who will be playing and the skills they have.

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Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?

In whatever form of gambling, it's always a good advantage that we have an awareness or knowledge about the game and not just following good picks and advice from others. It's like relying more on others if we just do some random bet and we are just increasing the risks of losing.

A good bettor don't make random bets, especially at sports-betting. That's a big risk for me and simply throwing away some money. They don't want to just rely on luck as there are lots of ways to increase our winning chances thru our own way of analyzation.

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August 10, 2020, 11:46:18 PM
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Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?

In whatever form of gambling, it's always a good advantage that we have an awareness or knowledge about the game and not just following good picks and advice from others. It's like relying more on others if we just do some random bet and we are just increasing the risks of losing.

A good bettor don't make random bets, especially at sports-betting. That's a big risk for me and simply throwing away some money. They don't want to just rely on luck as there are lots of ways to increase our winning chances thru our own way of analyzation.

sports betting is already easy and why we need to bet blindly ? its okay to bet randomly on other games because its hard to put analysis on them .

good thing there are pre created analysis by other people that we can use if we totally have no idea on the game that we are interested with . you said they are good picks and good advice only so why hesitate to follow them ? that will still make us a good bettor  .
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Skills and luck makes someone as a profitable bettor but for someone to be a good bettor then they should be really disciplined with their money management, they should always stay under their line or else they can ruin their financial plans of their life.In sport betting making best analysis as mich as they can and give best of their efforts to make it one as good gambler.
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Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think?

In whatever form of gambling, it's always a good advantage that we have an awareness or knowledge about the game and not just following good picks and advice from others. It's like relying more on others if we just do some random bet and we are just increasing the risks of losing.

A good bettor don't make random bets, especially at sports-betting. That's a big risk for me and simply throwing away some money. They don't want to just rely on luck as there are lots of ways to increase our winning chances thru our own way of analyzation.
Knowledge and the area of the expertise is important when it comes to be a good gambler, how can you be a good in something if you do noy fully understand the whole game. There are always risks but a good gambler can handle it very carefully through risk management. I do not know why there are a lot of gamblers who do not give a care on their psychology, it is a big factor and in order to fully understand and develop our knowledge; we should first able to understand ourselves.
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August 11, 2020, 04:44:55 AM
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Skills and luck makes someone as a profitable bettor but for someone to be a good bettor then they should be really disciplined with their money management, they should always stay under their line or else they can ruin their financial plans of their life.In sport betting making best analysis as mich as they can and give best of their efforts to make it one as good gambler.

But luck will not always come to you, even if you have high skills in one game. We need to consider that, so we don't use too big money if we are not sure. The discipline will also be required for any gambling game because that is one factor that can help us to prevent the big loss. Having a plan is a must so that we can stick to the plan, and we don't risk our money in the gambling games. Perhaps, it will hard, but if we don't try, we will never have a chance to control our money.
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But luck will not always come to you, even if you have high skills in one game. We need to consider that, so we don't use too big money if we are not sure. The discipline will also be required for any gambling game because that is one factor that can help us to prevent the big loss. Having a plan is a must so that we can stick to the plan, and we don't risk our money in the gambling games. Perhaps, it will hard, but if we don't try, we will never have a chance to control our money.

I agree, in my opinion discipline is one of the most important skills a good bettor should have. Everyone can get lucky sometimes and make a lot of money, but holding on to your winnings and losing it in the long run is the real art. So many lottery winners who won millions ended up broke again after some years. It is mandetory to make plans how you going to spend your winnings and how much you are going to reinves into new bets. So being emotional stable enough to get through bad times and keep sticking to your strategy is the main virtue of a good gambler.
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August 11, 2020, 08:19:13 AM
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I guess if it is horse race I will just look on their previous performance to have a better chance to win. Personally  I like sports betting than purely luck based games. Chances on winning in sports bet is really high if it is only played by 2 teams or 2 person like basketball and boxing, you only need to select one of the team and thats it. Knowing the capability and ability of who you are betting on really helps but anything can happen in a sport, anyone can  make a comeback.


Betting on horse racing could be easy aswell (or probably easier) considering that the number of factors you'll need to take into consideration in the track don't look much compared to soccer(just my opinion). In football there are over twenty players to include in your analysis/research, horse racing numbers varies... can be just few riders/horses to many riders/horses. The only challenge is that you'll have many riders to bet on, compare to two teams to bet on in football. I guess you could just research, select and focus more on two likely winners in horse racing to make things a bit easier
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August 11, 2020, 10:35:24 AM
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For me, it depends on your senses, the way you think and your mood.

Sometimes we really play happy go lucky, we bet because we are happy and it boosts our mood.

That's the reason why many bettors are dealing with the risks without thinking about the results that might happen.

Sometimes, self-discipline will make you a good better. It will help you to have a proper timing on when to bet or where to bet depending on the situations that you are dealing with. If you are greedy enough to bet without thinking then that's very risky.

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I guess in Gambling, experience would be the most useful thing to use. Reading gambling in books or hearing it from others story can be helpful to get a vibe on what to do around gambling and betting BUT experience will be the best teacher when you are doing it by yourself. It also is important to be open-minded at all times since there are many opportunities that is presented when you are betting and you can study them slowly while you are doing it.

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I guess in Gambling, experience would be the most useful thing to use. Reading gambling in books or hearing it from others story can be helpful to get a vibe on what to do around gambling and betting BUT experience will be the best teacher when you are doing it by yourself. It also is important to be open-minded at all times since there are many opportunities that is presented when you are betting and you can study them slowly while you are doing it.

Slowly adopting the process will gives you a better chance to succeed from this venue.

Most experienced gamblers knows how to control their emotions,
they are capable of deciding the right thing in the right place and time.

They prevent losing huge amount of money while they are also capable in making good amount as they are not greed as experienced teach them to avoid knowing the after effects of being greed.

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I guess in Gambling, experience would be the most useful thing to use. Reading gambling in books or hearing it from others story can be helpful to get a vibe on what to do around gambling and betting BUT experience will be the best teacher when you are doing it by yourself. It also is important to be open-minded at all times since there are many opportunities that is presented when you are betting and you can study them slowly while you are doing it.

Experience does play an important role as a new or initial stage one can get carried away easily, but once you get experience you known when to put pause or stop as well. This comes with experience and with self-disciple. Because have seen people who had won a big amount but, in the end, due to greediness has lost that profits as well.

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I guess in Gambling, experience would be the most useful thing to use. Reading gambling in books or hearing it from others story can be helpful to get a vibe on what to do around gambling and betting BUT experience will be the best teacher when you are doing it by yourself. It also is important to be open-minded at all times since there are many opportunities that is presented when you are betting and you can study them slowly while you are doing it.

Experience does play an important role as a new or initial stage one can get carried away easily, but once you get experience you known when to put pause or stop as well. This comes with experience and with self-disciple. Because have seen people who had won a big amount but, in the end, due to greediness has lost that profits as well.
Basing on experience, yes it is quite true. I had already made some wins but due to greediness actually it will be lost of if not the money I brought would be left in my pocket and reserve for the next day to gamble. As long as I enjoy playing I would not mind losing the money or even the wins. This is somehow my problem because I can make wins in the first rounds but when I get carried away with the fun in gambling losses will follow. Usually I take home quite few times but mostly my money remains as it was or I lost it all in gambling.
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I guess in Gambling, experience would be the most useful thing to use. Reading gambling in books or hearing it from others story can be helpful to get a vibe on what to do around gambling and betting BUT experience will be the best teacher when you are doing it by yourself. It also is important to be open-minded at all times since there are many opportunities that is presented when you are betting and you can study them slowly while you are doing it.

That is knowledge.

The knowledge you've accumulated from gambling or as you go is your experience. That really makes us a good bettor but there is also another thing, Discipline. There is management, experience, skills but I think discipline will really define you as a good bettor and I also think Discipline is just one of those objects to complete the set of being a good bettor.
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I guess in Gambling, experience would be the most useful thing to use. Reading gambling in books or hearing it from others story can be helpful to get a vibe on what to do around gambling and betting BUT experience will be the best teacher when you are doing it by yourself. It also is important to be open-minded at all times since there are many opportunities that is presented when you are betting and you can study them slowly while you are doing it.

That is knowledge.

The knowledge you've accumulated from gambling or as you go is your experience. That really makes us a good bettor but there is also another thing, Discipline. There is management, experience, skills but I think discipline will really define you as a good bettor and I also think Discipline is just one of those objects to complete the set of being a good bettor.
What you have said is correct mate. For me, you are good at betting when you know how to evaluate, measure things and also when you know how to observe. For example in sports betting, you shouldn't be biased when choosing which side you will bet for because not all the time your chosen team will win.

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August 11, 2020, 04:12:44 PM
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A good bettor for me is if you really do know your bet, you studied, think, research on which team are you going to bet it's for sports betting but in regards with the casino a good bettor should know his limit and be able to control himself from greed if he won and can control his temptation if he lose.
If you're taking this approach, the question is how far should the bettor go and whether it's sufficient to do all the stuff you've mentioned to become successful. The first part of my question is about how deep should the bettor dive into details on the teams, players and everything surrounding the upcoming game. Is it 'the more the better' or perhaps there's a risk of drowning in too much information? The second part is the following: let's say a person does perfect research (whatever that constitutes) and has excellent self-control. Does this guarantee wins on a regular basis? The problem is that it seems to me that it doesn't.
And to put it more generally, is there any ultimate pack of skills, resources and traits that is sufficient for becoming a successful bettor?

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August 11, 2020, 04:34:58 PM
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Skills and luck makes someone as a profitable bettor but for someone to be a good bettor then they should be really disciplined with their money management, they should always stay under their line or else they can ruin their financial plans of their life.In sport betting making best analysis as mich as they can and give best of their efforts to make it one as good gambler.

But luck will not always come to you, even if you have high skills in one game. We need to consider that, so we don't use too big money if we are not sure. The discipline will also be required for any gambling game because that is one factor that can help us to prevent the big loss. Having a plan is a must so that we can stick to the plan, and we don't risk our money in the gambling games. Perhaps, it will hard, but if we don't try, we will never have a chance to control our money.
Money management plan is the only way to tackle in gambling for long term, if we have plans regarding wins then it will suck for sure.When we are skillful and have great money management skills then particular sports betting can make them quite profitable but where there is a world betting it holds the risks.
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August 11, 2020, 06:11:00 PM
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If you're talking on sports betting well yeah there are persons who really is a good bettor they will analyze all including their previous games and who is their opponent and many more but if you're talking about casino betting games I don't think there's a skill on such thing because you need a pure luck on them.

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August 11, 2020, 06:28:47 PM
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I think to be a good bettor you need to have the knowledge about the things that you would bet on.
For instance just as you've said (OP) in horse race you need to know the details of the opponents and of course the history of each horse to have a better chance on winning.
But when it comes to sport like basketball or other team sports you need to know all about the past events like who are their new recruit players and who are injured their play style and other things as well.
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August 11, 2020, 07:03:40 PM
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When you're talking about listening to someone and then bet on something (here - horse racing specifically), let me ask you this - where did that knowledge come from - to the one who is tipping you? Even a tipster is the one who is aware of the probability and chances, as well as studied the horse as well as old game results are also checked with the horse power being a major factor to measure how long and quick will the horse run. But horse racing is riskier compared to sportsbetting and needs pure luck in order for you to win if you've gone for the 1st horse, and you can try to place yourself a bit easily if you're getting a line of 1-3 ranks. Smiley

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August 11, 2020, 07:24:56 PM
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If you're talking on sports betting well yeah there are persons who really is a good bettor they will analyze all including their previous games and who is their opponent and many more but if you're talking about casino betting games I don't think there's a skill on such thing because you need a pure luck on them.
There's these players who runs into the background, the players, the team itself before a bet then there are people who will just bet based on their instinct, so in my opinion being a good bettor will be based on the games that you are playing, if you are playing a dice which has only 2 choices, 50/50 and is winning, good bettor is not a word to describe you but a lucky guy. Skill based games is where you'll find the good bettors.

Game analyzation and money management is the core of a good bettor. IMO.
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August 11, 2020, 08:38:20 PM
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If you're talking on sports betting well yeah there are persons who really is a good bettor they will analyze all including their previous games and who is their opponent and many more but if you're talking about casino betting games I don't think there's a skill on such thing because you need a pure luck on them.

In anyhow there's still some people who can manage to generate good strategy  to be in the positive side.

Gamblers who have lots of experienced both from sports or casino gambling , there are some people that do exist
who keeps making money out from gambling, though the chance of losing is also possible but managing the damage
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   Good bettor has a passion for the sport his bet on. He is watching games, he knows statistics, he knows when the team
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August 11, 2020, 09:45:32 PM
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If you're talking on sports betting well yeah there are persons who really is a good bettor they will analyze all including their previous games and who is their opponent and many more but if you're talking about casino betting games I don't think there's a skill on such thing because you need a pure luck on them.
There's these players who runs into the background, the players, the team itself before a bet then there are people who will just bet based on their instinct, so in my opinion being a good bettor will be based on the games that you are playing, if you are playing a dice which has only 2 choices, 50/50 and is winning, good bettor is not a word to describe you but a lucky guy. Skill based games is where you'll find the good bettors.

Game analyzation and money management is the core of a good bettor. IMO.
You would definitely able to find out to those people who do play gambling in strategic based compared in luck based ones.Good bettor would really be composed of several behaviors
and qualities on which a person do able to control himself in terms of betting and bankroll management plus into his own emotion.Everything is needed to be on such disciplined
manner to make out good decisions neither you would push through into a certain bet or would simply pass.I do agree on that instinct thing which people do make use of it
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If you're talking on sports betting well yeah there are persons who really is a good bettor they will analyze all including their previous games and who is their opponent and many more but if you're talking about casino betting games I don't think there's a skill on such thing because you need a pure luck on them.
For luck type games, there could be skilled. The strategy that they have is about timing and deciding whether to keep going or it's good to stop.
And in that factor, the gambler can be said as a good gambler because he knows when to stop, when to quit and what to decide.

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August 11, 2020, 11:21:56 PM
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If you're talking on sports betting well yeah there are persons who really is a good bettor they will analyze all including their previous games and who is their opponent and many more but if you're talking about casino betting games I don't think there's a skill on such thing because you need a pure luck on them.
So to be a good bettor you have to know all of the required information in order for you to win? Well, most of the time it depends on what game you are good at wether luck based type or skill based type. The odds will definitely gonna start to change with the right information even if you say you are bad at luck.

I don't know if there's a good answer with this question since every gambler have different wants and preference regarding on their bet as well some other people doesn't really care about how they bet since they just want to enjoy the game and want things in random. But I really think this talk will have never ending answered since people will just give their ideas about that matter based on each personal opinion and experiences.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

The answer is I think simple. But let's make an argument or a set of possibilities with the matter.
  • If a gambler wins most of the time, is he that good?
  • If a gambler loses then wins then loses again, is he that bad?
  • If a gambler is simply addicted in gambling, is he a worst one?
  • If a gambler plays only when he like, would he be the best one?

Well then if you answer yes on any of the aforementioned questions, then think again. Winners and losers is just normal in gambling, whether you were smart or stupid. And playtime/how often you play it wouldn't even make you good at it nor be bad as well. But what really makes a gambler be successful is how he manage himself, his activities, and how he disciplines in every action in gambling he take. Even a stupid person can perform better, as long as you discipline yourself with learning more and more strategies and applying it to learn more by experiences.

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I agree, in my opinion discipline is one of the most important skills a good bettor should have. Everyone can get lucky sometimes and make a lot of money, but holding on to your winnings and losing it in the long run is the real art. So many lottery winners who won millions ended up broke again after some years. It is mandetory to make plans how you going to spend your winnings and how much you are going to reinves into new bets. So being emotional stable enough to get through bad times and keep sticking to your strategy is the main virtue of a good gambler.

I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games. The luck will come to take turns with the other gamblers, so we can't depend on luck when we gamble. When someone won a million dollars, and he cannot manage his win money, he will not have that money for a long time, but he will see that the money is gone in a short time. So we need to know what next we need to do after we can win that big money so that we can use it for good things, and we can save some amount for our future.
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.

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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.
That is the reason why most people are ending up losing all of their money because not all the time they are lucky. When we won today, there is a chance that we will not win tomorrow and we might spend our winnings yesterday to recover our losses.

You will just hold unto your winnings if you won the jackpot in a lottery and you decided to stop gambling or at least you won a very large amount and decided to stop but aside from the 2, I don't think that there is somebody who can hold it

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What makes a good bettor?
Money.

Skills doesn't matter if you're playing at a 50-50 basis.
All you have to do is to think where to play, and somewhat have the idea on how the game works.
Besides, there are several cases that even if you lose a hundred times you are still being considered as  good bettor, especially IRL.

Money is indeed one of the significant factors, but what's the point of having so much money, if you're always in a losing situation, and burning out your money because you dont have the strategy to grow your initial funds.
Yes, money is important but with a little amount. You start with it  and understanding how the game works, then gradually getting better and growing your money out of it.

Another factor to consider, is the gambling site itself, because some of them have difficulty level in winnings. Yes, they can freely control the complexity of the game especially when you're in a winstreak.

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August 12, 2020, 02:19:02 PM
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.
Just need to get control over the greed if someone wants to hold their winnings, yes it looks simple but in real life it can be very tempting while we are gambling and won few early bets then our mind will be fixed to keep betting and looking to become a millionaire on that day itself. Cheesy
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.
Just need to get control over the greed if someone wants to hold their winnings, yes it looks simple but in real life it can be very tempting while we are gambling and won few early bets then our mind will be fixed to keep betting and looking to become a millionaire on that day itself. Cheesy

in all honesty, once you are hooked in a particular game or into sportsbetting, it is hard to get out as it is really addictive. sometimes our tendency is to chase our winnings and hard to stop once you are in there. so if you want to control yourself, you have to set limits even before logging into the casino. you should know how much you can spare to lose and how much winnings are you gonna stop. without setting limits for yourself, you will just play and play up until you lose all your money

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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.

If I win, I don't want to go back to the games because I don't think that I will get another lucky as before. I prefer to stop gamble, withdraw the money if the money is big, and enjoy the money. The lucky moment will not always come to you or me, and we must realize that so we don't risk more money to gamble with the win money. If we have strong discipline, we can handle it with ease, and we can save that win money.

I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.
That is the reason why most people are ending up losing all of their money because not all the time they are lucky. When we won today, there is a chance that we will not win tomorrow and we might spend our winnings yesterday to recover our losses.

You will just hold unto your winnings if you won the jackpot in a lottery and you decided to stop gambling or at least you won a very large amount and decided to stop but aside from the 2, I don't think that there is somebody who can hold it

They become greed after they win some money, and they want to repeat to get another winning. But they wrong, luck will not come twice, and even if the luck comes in the second time, that will not always bigger than the first time.

Stopping gambling will be the best decision that we can make after winning those games because we need to rest for a while after having a big tension in the games. So stopping from playing will give us a chance to take a breath, and enjoy the money which will be an important thing for the gamblers.
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in all honesty, once you are hooked in a particular game or into sportsbetting, it is hard to get out as it is really addictive. sometimes our tendency is to chase our winnings and hard to stop once you are in there. so if you want to control yourself, you have to set limits even before logging into the casino. you should know how much you can spare to lose and how much winnings are you gonna stop. without setting limits for yourself, you will just play and play up until you lose all your money

So true.

At first I thought it would be easy to get out of sportsbetting since at that time I am not actualy lossing in those bets that I am having. But after some time, especially when the quarantine happened, I started again betting on esports and I can't stop. You can't just easily say that you need to control yourself because it is very hard. What you can do is some baby steps which may lead to you controlling your bets like limiting the bets you will do and limiting the teams you need to bet on.
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They become greed after they win some money, and they want to repeat to get another winning. But they wrong, luck will not come twice, and even if the luck comes in the second time, that will not always bigger than the first time.

Stopping gambling will be the best decision that we can make after winning those games because we need to rest for a while after having a big tension in the games. So stopping from playing will give us a chance to take a breath, and enjoy the money which will be an important thing for the gamblers.
Probably you are right but of course there also cases that after one win in gambling and then again get some losses to which money pocketed are almost gone then suddenly another luck comes along the way during the betting. This is why others do not want to go or end playing when they can still have some fun despite of having the chances that one will lost all the way.

I think it is the prerogative of a gambler whether he wants to play more or not. And in the times that we need to get more fun this is the wa that can help one to get excitement.
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August 13, 2020, 12:03:44 PM
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

You can ask for advice on experts there are a lot of experts on what horse that will likely rule one race, we use the word likely because there is not a guaranty, you should also do your own study and come out of your own list and try to compare to your list to their lists there are so many factors they may be good in some factors and not on others, so the comparison is a big must.

There's no guarantee but it can be a good basis from each bets that you'll going to take, being a good bettor is being a good researcher as well, with good knowledge upon the game/gambling that you'll going to play.

The higher chance to win or higher chance to learn more about strategic planning for your next sets of bet.
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Someone who understands that gambling is not there so that gambler could make money, it is there for casinos to provide a service for you so that you could have fun a bit, like watching a football game is something you spend money on and not wait to make a profit from it unless you are the player, however some people think betting on that same game you watch could make you rich.

Certainly as a gambler you could have good days, however if you keep gambling over and over again you are going to lose, that is how the system works. At the end of the day if you insist on trying to profit, you are going to lose, that is why I think the best way to go about being a bettor is to realize that gambling is something you should have fun doing, not something you aim at profiting.
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

You can ask for advice on experts there are a lot of experts on what horse that will likely rule one race, we use the word likely because there is not a guaranty, you should also do your own study and come out of your own list and try to compare to your list to their lists there are so many factors they may be good in some factors and not on others, so the comparison is a big must.

There's no guarantee but it can be a good basis from each bets that you'll going to take, being a good bettor is being a good researcher as well, with good knowledge upon the game/gambling that you'll going to play.

The higher chance to win or higher chance to learn more about strategic planning for your next sets of bet.
For strategic based ones then yes but for luck based then it wont really be that much needed.Being a good bettor would be composed of several combined characteristics.

From being a skilled to being well on handling out his own self while he do play. Behavior is also one of the best thing to be control out.

On games that do need strategy then its sure that it will really be needed those factors for you to sustain and to be profitable but thats not always an assurance though.

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From being a skilled to being well on handling out his own self while he do play. Behavior is also one of the best thing to be control out.
Well, that is right. This behavior is one of the most very hard to control once you are in gambling. Being a good bettor will start it in your self and how you manage your risk at the same time. Actually, a good bettor doesn't mean you will always win, --it means that either win or loss you should know that there is a limitation and behavior should always be important at all how to control. I dont know if all gamblers will always have this mindset, if there is, --there should not have addiction in gambling.









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August 13, 2020, 10:23:34 PM
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A bettor needs to have a certain level of knowledge and understanding on a sport/game that he wishes to place his money on. You do not blindly bet on something because you're feeling lucky, and it's not most of the time that luck favors your side so you need to have some prior knowledge to the teams/athlete/player participating in a game before putting your money on their performance. A cautious bettor is a good bettor for me since they know when to stop, how to research and when to push for more bets to get the maximum profit possible. It's not enough that you have the game knowledge on your arsenal, you also need to have self-control to stop and not pushing your luck to its absolute limits, too.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

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August 13, 2020, 11:45:14 PM
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.

If I win, I don't want to go back to the games because I don't think that I will get another lucky as before. I prefer to stop gamble, withdraw the money if the money is big, and enjoy the money. The lucky moment will not always come to you or me, and we must realize that so we don't risk more money to gamble with the win money. If we have strong discipline, we can handle it with ease, and we can save that win money.

So true. If we can just get ahold of ourselves, we will not be having a problem with a lot of losses especially those losses that we shouldn't even be a loss. I do said this but there are really those times that it is really hard to control ourselves, it is just like you feel you are very lucky and you feel that you can go home with a lot of cash but the opposite happens. A good bettor has control over themselves and is always rational rather than emotional.

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Probably you are right but of course there also cases that after one win in gambling and then again get some losses to which money pocketed are almost gone then suddenly another luck comes along the way during the betting. This is why others do not want to go or end playing when they can still have some fun despite of having the chances that one will lost all the way.

I think it is the prerogative of a gambler whether he wants to play more or not. And in the times that we need to get more fun this is the wa that can help one to get excitement.

That is the tempted of the gambling that will make gamblers always back to the games and spend more money. We cannot deny that when we play gambling, our passion will become bigger, and we still want to use more time to play. But of course, that will not make our luck will always beside us. It is why we need always to have control to say stop when we think it's enough to play gambling.

The gambler will decide when they will stop gambling, but most of them stop gambling because they run out of their money. That is one condition that forces them to stop and cannot continue playing gambling.

I agree, stopping when you win is a very good choice because you will get full victory, because if you keep playing while winning then you will lose everything because your game is dominated by uncontrollable lust.
because what I experience when I win will trigger curiosity that hopes to continue to win and eventually lose, so when I play gambling it's just for fun and stops when I win or lose according to the capital I have prepared without adding more, and play it in a relaxed and calm manner.

I hope there will attract more gamblers who can stop when they win, so they can save the win money and enjoy that money. Although they cannot always win, with just one big win, and they stop from playing gambling, that will be worth for them because they now have the money, and they can use that money for anything they want.

We need to control the curiosity that we have because that will makes us need more time to play gambling. That will not be good for us, especially if we are tempted to continue playing gambling.

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So true. If we can just get ahold of ourselves, we will not be having a problem with a lot of losses especially those losses that we shouldn't even be a loss. I do said this but there are really those times that it is really hard to control ourselves, it is just like you feel you are very lucky and you feel that you can go home with a lot of cash but the opposite happens. A good bettor has control over themselves and is always rational rather than emotional.

I feel that too, and I have that bad experience before. But if we don't learn to anticipate ourselves from playing more rounds, we will not have a chance to save our money. But I am happy that now I can at least hold myself from playing gambling longer than others because I always remember my bad experience, and I don't want to repeat the same thing.
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A bettor needs to have a certain level of knowledge and understanding on a sport/game that he wishes to place his money on. You do not blindly bet on something because you're feeling lucky, and it's not most of the time that luck favors your side so you need to have some prior knowledge to the teams/athlete/player participating in a game before putting your money on their performance. A cautious bettor is a good bettor for me since they know when to stop, how to research and when to push for more bets to get the maximum profit possible. It's not enough that you have the game knowledge on your arsenal, you also need to have self-control to stop and not pushing your luck to its absolute limits, too.
Yes, good bettors are not only about certain knowledge and understanding because in gambling at least a good bettor will also be aware of the situation and conditions that occur at the same time, because by having good feelings, of course this will make it easier for you to control yourself to stop or continue. Basically good bettors are those who have had a lot of experience in gambling itself, so even if you have a lot of strategies that you can get from many sources, it still won't guarantee you to be a good bettor.

More on controlling yourself, if you have that discipline and you are precise with doing your strategy, it will allow you to stop when it's needed either sides win or lose, it's best to have a good control with your emotions, its saves you a lot, not just your bankroll but also your temper, without good control, you are more prone to addiction and that's not the qualities of being a good bettor.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

You will eventually become good at something if you have been dong this for a long time and you spend a lot of time analyzing and setting up a system to make analysis much easier, they do exist if you look around you will eventually meet people who are successfully betting with a higher ratio of winning against losing.
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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

I totally agree with you, that experience plays a very important role in making us a good bettor. But many people prioritize other things
such as knowledge and making the best strategy as the main factors of being a good bettor. Even though we shouldn't be too focused on it.
If you have a long experience, it will automatically create our knowledge develops and from experience we can learn from the mistakes we
make, it will create a powerful strategy.

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If you're uncertain whether or not you'd make a good gambler, then chances are you're not.  As others have pointed out, for wagers against living animals, knowing their previous wins and losses / whether they are at or near their peak performance can play an important factor, however, more random games such as the throw of the dice, flip of the card, or where the ball lands, these increasingly require a different kind of skill.

But if you could predict where a ball will land, then the game isn't tough enough to wager on in the first place.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
You will eventually become good at something if you have been dong this for a long time and you spend a lot of time analyzing and setting up a system to make analysis much easier, they do exist if you look around you will eventually meet people who are successfully betting with a higher ratio of winning against losing.

Their ratio doesn't matter.

What matters here is how you would be able to do such things, better things than them. I am not saying that you should be competitive with these people, what I am saying is that if you gather enough knowledge, enough experience in this platform, in these bettings, you should be able to start something that they might not know and you will be popular in your own way. It is hard but gathering information and analysis based on others could led you to something good. Despite all of that, you should not always depend on what they can give, it is always based on what you can do.
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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

It is "possible" to know the winners without "the stats" or having "ample knowledge about all of the subjects"
It can be revealed to you "supernaturally" by our CREATOR. This is the part many people don't want believe exist even though HE does.

But we would just rely on hardwork because of other bettors... so we don't have unequal advantage over them just for selfish reason
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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

It is "possible" to know the winners without "the stats" or having "ample knowledge about all of the subjects"
It can be revealed to you "supernaturally" by our CREATOR. This is the part many people don't want believe exist even though HE does.
That's what you called luck, but you can't be a good bettor if you always rely on luck, you need some consistency here so you'll be able to survive when time comes that you will be tested, gambling if you take it seriously, you need to consider it a journey where you face challenges along the way and you just have to improve.


But we would just rely on hardwork because of other bettors... so we don't have unequal advantage over them just for selfish reason

Hardwork is useless if you can't win, that's a waste time, you need to be smart to win, and you need to stop when you don't have a chance.

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That's what you called luck, but you can't be a good bettor if you always rely on luck, you need some consistency here so you'll be able to survive when time comes that you will be tested, gambling if you take it seriously, you need to consider it a journey where you face challenges along the way and you just have to improve.

Hardwork is useless if you can't win, that's a waste time, you need to be smart to win, and you need to stop when you don't have a chance.
I agree with what you said. I have only recently become interested in betting like this. You can compare it to science as if you were just experimenting. I do not rely too much on luck because when you know you have a strategy that is used for you that is effective you can achieve what you expect. However, what still matters is that you know what you are doing and the limit. I just enjoy my games, win or lose is okay because I know that only two sides are the destination result.

Why bet if you just lose? You should not think of losing ...

That said, if you are going to fight you must be ready, carrying a weapon ...

You will learn a lot from your future gaming experiences. Of course, you should also know what you are playing. Choose where you are good ... Once you have learned something, then you can think of ways to somehow have a chance to win.

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That's what you called luck, but you can't be a good bettor if you always rely on luck, you need some consistency here so you'll be able to survive when time comes that you will be tested, gambling if you take it seriously, you need to consider it a journey where you face challenges along the way and you just have to improve.

Hardwork is useless if you can't win, that's a waste time, you need to be smart to win, and you need to stop when you don't have a chance.
I agree with what you said. I have only recently become interested in betting like this. You can compare it to science as if you were just experimenting. I do not rely too much on luck because when you know you have a strategy that is used for you that is effective you can achieve what you expect. However, what still matters is that you know what you are doing and the limit. I just enjoy my games, win or lose is okay because I know that only two sides are the destination result.
Having that kind of attitude is good, that would make your approach realistic and you'll be able to adjust accordingly as you learn from your mistakes and you continue to grow as a gambler. We will understand that gambling is not easy if we are realistic because we have to prove to ourselves first if we are really profitable with what we are doing, if we are not realistic, we will forget the loses and only count the winnings, that's why we aren't going to the right direction.

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Although playing betting game is mostly based on probability and luck associated on the games, still being a good bettor in need to have prior knowledge about the game he wishes to play. Sometimes gut feel works on placing bets but that was just pure luck for standing a chance to place the correct amount of bet on that particular situation. Being a good bettor must know the rules of the game and how the game works because on that cases, you will be depending the strategy you will do on how you will manage to place your bets on that game.

Just placing bets on any game you do not know is simply a gamble and a risk taking making luck works on your side. But the game of bets does not always be favorable to you so to be able to be a good bettor in a sense that you are enjoying playing and making the game took a long run, you must know everything about the game so you would know how you will strategize managing the amount of bets you will place.
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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

I totally agree with you, that experience plays a very important role in making us a good bettor. But many people prioritize other things
such as knowledge and making the best strategy as the main factors of being a good bettor. Even though we shouldn't be too focused on it.
If you have a long experience, it will automatically create our knowledge develops and from experience we can learn from the mistakes we
make, it will create a powerful strategy.

Please, share with me at least a simple "strategy" and tell me how it will help me if i don't have a knowledge about the subject to which i bet. I want to hear a real example, even the simplest. Thx

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What I believe if a person wants to start betting then he must have knowledge about that specific game first. Secondly he must know when to stop so he must not end up with nothing and losing all money. He must fix a amount that he will not bet more then that no matter he wins or lose.
And the most important part he must not get greedy.

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What I believe if a person wants to start betting then he must have knowledge about that specific game first. Secondly he must know when to stop so he must not end up with nothing and losing all money. He must fix a amount that he will not bet more then that no matter he wins or lose.
And the most important part he must not get greedy.

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Those knowledge are common, obviously, you need those to play those games because how can you play if you don't know how to play. A good bettor is probably a calm and casual gambler, of course, you need to think well to be a good better and the important thing is not being a greedy person.

Greed will make you lose all of your income because your mindset is to gain more even at all costs, in that way, you will lose a lot and that isn't considered as a good bettor.
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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
You can be good on games which are somewhat based on skills (like poker). But, other games like dice, slots or roulette requires no skill at all. Those are game of chances which depends totally on your luck. No skills or "strategies" will change the outcome of your bets. Anyone that claims that certain trick or way of playing will give you profit, are actually being delusional. They are ones who say you will win after "x" number of losses. Google the term "gamblers fallacy".
On game of chances, everyone has the equal chance of winning/losing. If someone is getting really lucky, tell him to keep on betting and you will see that in the long run, his win/loss ratio is the same as others.

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August 14, 2020, 09:36:52 PM
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What I believe if a person wants to start betting then he must have knowledge about that specific game first. Secondly he must know when to stop so he must not end up with nothing and losing all money. He must fix a amount that he will not bet more then that no matter he wins or lose.
And the most important part he must not get greedy.

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Those knowledge are common, obviously, you need those to play those games because how can you play if you don't know how to play. A good bettor is probably a calm and casual gambler, of course, you need to think well to be a good better and the important thing is not being a greedy person.

Greed will make you lose all of your income because your mindset is to gain more even at all costs, in that way, you will lose a lot and that isn't considered as a good bettor.

Not common.

If I want to bet on sports I should know the odds. I should know about the teams which players is resting which is playing what is the previous score of the team/batting order and many things like that. I just cannot simply bet on England over Indies or some other team.

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August 14, 2020, 10:00:36 PM
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It is not easy to be a good bettor, because we must have knowledge. Without knowledge we are just playing on instinct and that's a bad idea.
Another thing to be a good bettor requires expertise in gathering information, because the more complete information we can collect. The more
accurate our choices are for betting, even the more information we can get can increase our winning chance.

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August 14, 2020, 10:17:40 PM
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It is not easy to be a good bettor, because we must have knowledge. Without knowledge we are just playing on instinct and that's a bad idea.
Another thing to be a good bettor requires expertise in gathering information, because the more complete information we can collect. The more
accurate our choices are for betting, even the more information we can get can increase our winning chance.

That's right, everyone should acknowledge that it's not easy to be a good better, similar to saying it's not easy to win. Gathering information is just some basic requirement as you needed that to analyze a game before you put your bet, but the real battle was really when you are already in the driver's sit as you have to play against all odds, I mean, just like a roller coaster ride, you go up and down, so you have to survive and make sure you'll be the winner in the long run.

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August 14, 2020, 10:23:24 PM
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...I mean, just like a roller coaster ride, you go up and down, so you have to survive and make sure you'll be the winner in the long run.

In a roller coaster, there is no winner. It is full of ups and downs with a lot of people having fun and if you give in to that feeling, you will puke your way out. The best thing here is not to give in to that feeling, and aiming to be a winner in a long time is not bad either it will just make some bad results in the long run. Always remember that a gambler can win in a day but it will not be the same in a month. Keep track, Keep safe and keep being emotional.

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August 15, 2020, 03:01:38 AM
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If you don't consider those who bet for fun as good bettors then who is a good bettor? Those who chase after the winnings to me aren't good bettors because their thoughts are base on the winnings than the fun, which sometimes lead many gamblers into HBP. Good bettors are those who have time to analyze games irrespective of their odds but because of teams potentials. Most of my winnings where achieved as a result of the above statements.

I think the good bettor is someone who knows how much money he can bet and how long he should playing gambling. He will have good control for himself, so he doesn't risk too much money. When we chase, the winnings will not succeed, but there will be gamblers who can get big win periodically, and that gamblers are people who really have luck at the gambling games. Perhaps, we will not know who they are as they don't show themselves in public.
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August 15, 2020, 04:46:06 AM
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I think the good bettor is someone who knows how much money he can bet and how long he should playing gambling. He will have good control for himself, so he doesn't risk too much money. When we chase, the winnings will not succeed, but there will be gamblers who can get big win periodically, and that gamblers are people who really have luck at the gambling games. Perhaps, we will not know who they are as they don't show themselves in public.
Any gambler who is able to control themselves and their money, I can say that they are good gambler. Imposing yourself no matter how much money is used to gamble, I dont think its a good gambler habit. Thats the easiest way to get bigger losses in the end. Gambling has to be played well if we dont want all our money to run out and there must be control.

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Any gambler who is able to control themselves and their money, I can say that they are good gambler. Imposing yourself no matter how much money is used to gamble, I dont think its a good gambler habit. Thats the easiest way to get bigger losses in the end. Gambling has to be played well if we dont want all our money to run out and there must be control.

We need to follow their way to be a good gambler. We don't need to force ourselves to use more money to gamble will not give us more chances to win the game, but we can lose all of the money in any second. We can control ourselves while playing gambling, and we must manage our feeling not to follow greed when we win. Enough in gambling will be important for us to decide, so we don't get more losses, and we can back to playing gambling in the next days. Remember that we still have much time to gamble, so we need to keep the rest of our money.
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August 15, 2020, 08:12:44 AM
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.

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August 15, 2020, 12:09:24 PM
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I think the good bettor is someone who knows how much money he can bet and how long he should playing gambling. He will have good control for himself, so he doesn't risk too much money. When we chase, the winnings will not succeed, but there will be gamblers who can get big win periodically, and that gamblers are people who really have luck at the gambling games. Perhaps, we will not know who they are as they don't show themselves in public.
Any gambler who is able to control themselves and their money, I can say that they are good gambler. Imposing yourself no matter how much money is used to gamble, I dont think its a good gambler habit. Thats the easiest way to get bigger losses in the end. Gambling has to be played well if we dont want all our money to run out and there must be control.
Yes, every user won't have the self control with gambling. When one keeps failing, he'll keep goin to recover the loss. This won't be effective with every gambler, very few gets lucky to recover the losses. When our inner mind feels we're going beyond our ability/experiencing loss we should have control over it, taking a break. One who has the ability can be termed a good better unlike his other gambling skills.

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Thanks for this discussion! Many points have been made, but I'll try to summarize. A good bettor needs experience, knowledge of the specifics (both how to bet and on what to bet), good bankroll, ability to control one's finances (not to lose too much), has to be free from addiction and being lucky wouldn't hurt (but you cannot control this one). I'm not locking the thread in case there's something else which is worth noting, and because the question of whethere there's any set of characteristics that is sufficient to become a good bettor (that is, something that guarantees you'll be a good one).

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August 15, 2020, 02:03:56 PM
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A good bettor would be someone who knows that he's gambling which is nothing but entertainment and he's paying for that entertainment, the thrill that comes with it. The bad gambler would want to have fun and at the same time win money continuously for long time, which is impossible. Hence, to be a good bettor, set your limits. It's alright to have an addiction, but it's never alright to be a slave of that addiction.
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A good bettor would be someone who knows that he's gambling which is nothing but entertainment and he's paying for that entertainment, the thrill that comes with it. The bad gambler would want to have fun and at the same time win money continuously for long time, which is impossible. Hence, to be a good bettor, set your limits. It's alright to have an addiction, but it's never alright to be a slave of that addiction.
Indeed. A good bettor or gambler is he only gambles for fun or entertainment that he doesn't mind earning huge amount of profit in gambling or taking it as a source of income because he will only inherit the bad side of gambling such as greed, anxious, lost of control, depression, etc. It is why if we experience losses in gambling we should learn to accept it because not everyone is a winner in gambling.

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Thanks for this discussion! Many points have been made, but I'll try to summarize. A good bettor needs experience, knowledge of the specifics (both how to bet and on what to bet), good bankroll, ability to control one's finances (not to lose too much), has to be free from addiction and being lucky wouldn't hurt (but you cannot control this one). I'm not locking the thread in case there's something else which is worth noting, and because the question of whethere there's any set of characteristics that is sufficient to become a good bettor (that is, something that guarantees you'll be a good one).
And importantly we don't have to make it as our profession because it is going to be hard for someone to survive with the earnings made from bets throughout their life, it is just the form of entertainment so a good better have to accept the win or lose and have to move on.









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August 15, 2020, 05:34:48 PM
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.

That is true, statistics and winning rate makes the good bettor. But what makes him achieve such results, that is the question? Is it knowledge, experience, luck or something else, what is the key? We all know that only few among us are really good successful bettors so what is the secret for success?

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Thanks for this discussion! Many points have been made, but I'll try to summarize. A good bettor needs experience, knowledge of the specifics (both how to bet and on what to bet), good bankroll, ability to control one's finances (not to lose too much), has to be free from addiction and being lucky wouldn't hurt (but you cannot control this one). I'm not locking the thread in case there's something else which is worth noting, and because the question of whethere there's any set of characteristics that is sufficient to become a good bettor (that is, something that guarantees you'll be a good one).
And importantly we don't have to make it as our profession because it is going to be hard for someone to survive with the earnings made from bets throughout their life, it is just the form of entertainment so a good better have to accept the win or lose and have to move on.

I fully agree, you can't solely rely on your profits from betting as you main income. You need a more steady source of income that can cover you in times of bad beats. For me any winning I get from gambling or betting is just a nice bonus. I treat it the same as with investing, it shouldn't be the main focus, just something to be done in the spare time.
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.

That is true, statistics and winning rate makes the good bettor. But what makes him achieve such results, that is the question? Is it knowledge, experience, luck or something else, what is the key? We all know that only few among us are really good successful bettors so what is the secret for success?

Probably something from everything you mentioned! I had a chance to see some winning tickets, where people won a thousand of euros with less than a dollar bets, and with all my knowledge I would never bet on those games like the people who won that money! What is their secret?! Well they don't have one betting slip, they have +50 slips, and every slip is some combination of few selected games! The more combinations you cover, the more chances you have to make profit!


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August 15, 2020, 10:17:00 PM
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A good bettor would be someone who knows that he's gambling which is nothing but entertainment and he's paying for that entertainment, the thrill that comes with it. The bad gambler would want to have fun and at the same time win money continuously for long time, which is impossible. Hence, to be a good bettor, set your limits. It's alright to have an addiction, but it's never alright to be a slave of that addiction.

What? when we say good bettor that means he's aware of what is he betting for, in short he is playing to win it not just for entertainment purpose. Having a straight lose won't make you any good bettor lol.

Gambling freely is different from what a good bettor is, what you mean is those people who just wants entertainment and does not care about the money at all.

Guess you didn't know what it is to be  Huh
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.
Identifying a good bettor would really be like this on where you do try to check out that profitability rate because that one will surely indicate on how good the gambler or bettor is.Even if we do talk about
luck based kind of games then its still considerable but most of the time it would be ideal to see these numbers when dealing with sports betting or cardgames. Success rate will really able to
picture out on a gambler if he's good enough or not. Also if we do talk about good bettor then it do always pertain all the qualities like self control, intuition, bankroll management etc.

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August 16, 2020, 01:43:38 AM
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

Horse racing betting requires a lot of time and analysis because of the many factors involved they are very objective on their analysis they consider the weight cap a weight put up by a favorite horse so it will even up the races, breeding, age, and past performances and of course insider's tip, which is very important some tips comes from the horse's steward or caretaker.

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August 16, 2020, 02:48:14 AM
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And importantly we don't have to make it as our profession because it is going to be hard for someone to survive with the earnings made from bets throughout their life, it is just the form of entertainment so a good better have to accept the win or lose and have to move on.

Indeed. We can only use it to have fun without any tension to make money from betting, especially if we don't have the right skill to choose the right team. I see some of my friends follow the others to place the bets because invitations from other friends, but that friend doesn't have any information on which teams have a big chance to win. He only follows what it says without research. If they win, he makes wins too. At this point, he can have fun without having any skills in betting sports.
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And importantly we don't have to make it as our profession because it is going to be hard for someone to survive with the earnings made from bets throughout their life, it is just the form of entertainment so a good better have to accept the win or lose and have to move on.

Indeed. We can only use it to have fun without any tension to make money from betting, especially if we don't have the right skill to choose the right team. I see some of my friends follow the others to place the bets because invitations from other friends, but that friend doesn't have any information on which teams have a big chance to win. He only follows what it says without research. If they win, he makes wins too. At this point, he can have fun without having any skills in betting sports.

That is the thing about good bettors.

They don't look at gambling as a main source of income, they know their limitations and I think those good bettors aslo know their thing since if they do I don't think they will be having that good winning streaks or high percentage of wins over losses. Your friend might be having good profits and also having fun but in terms of being a good bettor, he's halfway there.
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August 16, 2020, 05:46:15 AM
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.
Identifying a good bettor would really be like this on where you do try to check out that profitability rate because that one will surely indicate on how good the gambler or bettor is.Even if we do talk about
luck based kind of games then its still considerable but most of the time it would be ideal to see these numbers when dealing with sports betting or cardgames. Success rate will really able to
picture out on a gambler if he's good enough or not. Also if we do talk about good bettor then it do always pertain all the qualities like self control, intuition, bankroll management etc.
It is not just about winning rate, it is about your character as a gambler? Ask yourself if you are gambling just because of fun or it is because of money. A good bettor know what is his purpose and goal in terms of playing gambling. Understanding the concept is also a factor, are you able to know how to win in games such as dice, crash or card and table games. You can achieve success in gambling if you are a good bettor, in order to become one of the good bettor you should allocate your time on understanding your ownself.
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August 16, 2020, 10:11:45 AM
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.
Identifying a good bettor would really be like this on where you do try to check out that profitability rate because that one will surely indicate on how good the gambler or bettor is.Even if we do talk about
luck based kind of games then its still considerable but most of the time it would be ideal to see these numbers when dealing with sports betting or cardgames. Success rate will really able to
picture out on a gambler if he's good enough or not. Also if we do talk about good bettor then it do always pertain all the qualities like self control, intuition, bankroll management etc.
It is not just about winning rate, it is about your character as a gambler? Ask yourself if you are gambling just because of fun or it is because of money. A good bettor know what is his purpose and goal in terms of playing gambling. Understanding the concept is also a factor, are you able to know how to win in games such as dice, crash or card and table games. You can achieve success in gambling if you are a good bettor, in order to become one of the good bettor you should allocate your time on understanding your ownself.

And winning rate tells it all, right? Winning rate is not just those people with 100 bets or 200 bets, we are talking about a lot of bets and still having that good winning rate. If we are talking about a 70% win rate, then we can actually say that he is a good bettor. He knows his goal, understand the factor, and obviously know how to win the reason we are seeing a good win rate. That is also obvious that he is a good bettor since with that rate, he is successful.

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August 16, 2020, 01:35:01 PM
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Isn't that a clear thing? What makes a good bettor is his statistic! If his statistic is over 70% winning rate, and he is in profit, we can say for that person that he is a good bettor! Winning rate for itself doesn't mean much, he can win low odds and miss high odds, to lose more on his losses than he makes profit on his winnings. It's why except winning rate you need to take a look at his bankroll to have a full picture.
Identifying a good bettor would really be like this on where you do try to check out that profitability rate because that one will surely indicate on how good the gambler or bettor is.Even if we do talk about
luck based kind of games then its still considerable but most of the time it would be ideal to see these numbers when dealing with sports betting or cardgames. Success rate will really able to
picture out on a gambler if he's good enough or not. Also if we do talk about good bettor then it do always pertain all the qualities like self control, intuition, bankroll management etc.
It is not just about winning rate, it is about your character as a gambler? Ask yourself if you are gambling just because of fun or it is because of money. A good bettor know what is his purpose and goal in terms of playing gambling. Understanding the concept is also a factor, are you able to know how to win in games such as dice, crash or card and table games. You can achieve success in gambling if you are a good bettor, in order to become one of the good bettor you should allocate your time on understanding your ownself.

And winning rate tells it all, right? Winning rate is not just those people with 100 bets or 200 bets, we are talking about a lot of bets and still having that good winning rate. If we are talking about a 70% win rate, then we can actually say that he is a good bettor. He knows his goal, understand the factor, and obviously know how to win the reason we are seeing a good win rate. That is also obvious that he is a good bettor since with that rate, he is successful.

I could not agree more. A good bettor must be able to cope with the wins and losses.
They have purpose and objectives that they abide by, principles that they hold on to.
They aim to attain knowledge of sports, strong evaluation skills and excellent money and emotion management.

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