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August 12, 2020, 11:59:11 PM
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.
Just need to get control over the greed if someone wants to hold their winnings, yes it looks simple but in real life it can be very tempting while we are gambling and won few early bets then our mind will be fixed to keep betting and looking to become a millionaire on that day itself. Cheesy

in all honesty, once you are hooked in a particular game or into sportsbetting, it is hard to get out as it is really addictive. sometimes our tendency is to chase our winnings and hard to stop once you are in there. so if you want to control yourself, you have to set limits even before logging into the casino. you should know how much you can spare to lose and how much winnings are you gonna stop. without setting limits for yourself, you will just play and play up until you lose all your money

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August 13, 2020, 04:47:55 AM
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.

If I win, I don't want to go back to the games because I don't think that I will get another lucky as before. I prefer to stop gamble, withdraw the money if the money is big, and enjoy the money. The lucky moment will not always come to you or me, and we must realize that so we don't risk more money to gamble with the win money. If we have strong discipline, we can handle it with ease, and we can save that win money.

I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.
That is the reason why most people are ending up losing all of their money because not all the time they are lucky. When we won today, there is a chance that we will not win tomorrow and we might spend our winnings yesterday to recover our losses.

You will just hold unto your winnings if you won the jackpot in a lottery and you decided to stop gambling or at least you won a very large amount and decided to stop but aside from the 2, I don't think that there is somebody who can hold it

They become greed after they win some money, and they want to repeat to get another winning. But they wrong, luck will not come twice, and even if the luck comes in the second time, that will not always bigger than the first time.

Stopping gambling will be the best decision that we can make after winning those games because we need to rest for a while after having a big tension in the games. So stopping from playing will give us a chance to take a breath, and enjoy the money which will be an important thing for the gamblers.

 
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August 13, 2020, 08:14:11 AM
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in all honesty, once you are hooked in a particular game or into sportsbetting, it is hard to get out as it is really addictive. sometimes our tendency is to chase our winnings and hard to stop once you are in there. so if you want to control yourself, you have to set limits even before logging into the casino. you should know how much you can spare to lose and how much winnings are you gonna stop. without setting limits for yourself, you will just play and play up until you lose all your money

So true.

At first I thought it would be easy to get out of sportsbetting since at that time I am not actualy lossing in those bets that I am having. But after some time, especially when the quarantine happened, I started again betting on esports and I can't stop. You can't just easily say that you need to control yourself because it is very hard. What you can do is some baby steps which may lead to you controlling your bets like limiting the bets you will do and limiting the teams you need to bet on.
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August 13, 2020, 08:20:56 AM
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They become greed after they win some money, and they want to repeat to get another winning. But they wrong, luck will not come twice, and even if the luck comes in the second time, that will not always bigger than the first time.

Stopping gambling will be the best decision that we can make after winning those games because we need to rest for a while after having a big tension in the games. So stopping from playing will give us a chance to take a breath, and enjoy the money which will be an important thing for the gamblers.
Probably you are right but of course there also cases that after one win in gambling and then again get some losses to which money pocketed are almost gone then suddenly another luck comes along the way during the betting. This is why others do not want to go or end playing when they can still have some fun despite of having the chances that one will lost all the way.

I think it is the prerogative of a gambler whether he wants to play more or not. And in the times that we need to get more fun this is the wa that can help one to get excitement.
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August 13, 2020, 12:03:44 PM
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

You can ask for advice on experts there are a lot of experts on what horse that will likely rule one race, we use the word likely because there is not a guaranty, you should also do your own study and come out of your own list and try to compare to your list to their lists there are so many factors they may be good in some factors and not on others, so the comparison is a big must.

There's no guarantee but it can be a good basis from each bets that you'll going to take, being a good bettor is being a good researcher as well, with good knowledge upon the game/gambling that you'll going to play.

The higher chance to win or higher chance to learn more about strategic planning for your next sets of bet.
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August 13, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
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Someone who understands that gambling is not there so that gambler could make money, it is there for casinos to provide a service for you so that you could have fun a bit, like watching a football game is something you spend money on and not wait to make a profit from it unless you are the player, however some people think betting on that same game you watch could make you rich.

Certainly as a gambler you could have good days, however if you keep gambling over and over again you are going to lose, that is how the system works. At the end of the day if you insist on trying to profit, you are going to lose, that is why I think the best way to go about being a bettor is to realize that gambling is something you should have fun doing, not something you aim at profiting.
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August 13, 2020, 09:30:17 PM
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But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

You can ask for advice on experts there are a lot of experts on what horse that will likely rule one race, we use the word likely because there is not a guaranty, you should also do your own study and come out of your own list and try to compare to your list to their lists there are so many factors they may be good in some factors and not on others, so the comparison is a big must.

There's no guarantee but it can be a good basis from each bets that you'll going to take, being a good bettor is being a good researcher as well, with good knowledge upon the game/gambling that you'll going to play.

The higher chance to win or higher chance to learn more about strategic planning for your next sets of bet.
For strategic based ones then yes but for luck based then it wont really be that much needed.Being a good bettor would be composed of several combined characteristics.

From being a skilled to being well on handling out his own self while he do play. Behavior is also one of the best thing to be control out.

On games that do need strategy then its sure that it will really be needed those factors for you to sustain and to be profitable but thats not always an assurance though.

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August 13, 2020, 10:06:26 PM
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From being a skilled to being well on handling out his own self while he do play. Behavior is also one of the best thing to be control out.
Well, that is right. This behavior is one of the most very hard to control once you are in gambling. Being a good bettor will start it in your self and how you manage your risk at the same time. Actually, a good bettor doesn't mean you will always win, --it means that either win or loss you should know that there is a limitation and behavior should always be important at all how to control. I dont know if all gamblers will always have this mindset, if there is, --there should not have addiction in gambling.









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August 13, 2020, 10:23:34 PM
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A bettor needs to have a certain level of knowledge and understanding on a sport/game that he wishes to place his money on. You do not blindly bet on something because you're feeling lucky, and it's not most of the time that luck favors your side so you need to have some prior knowledge to the teams/athlete/player participating in a game before putting your money on their performance. A cautious bettor is a good bettor for me since they know when to stop, how to research and when to push for more bets to get the maximum profit possible. It's not enough that you have the game knowledge on your arsenal, you also need to have self-control to stop and not pushing your luck to its absolute limits, too.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

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August 13, 2020, 11:45:14 PM
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I think it is difficult to hold on to our winnings for a long time because we cannot always have luck in the gambling games.

Holding on to our winnings will not be decided by how lucky we are, that will fall down to how you will be able to control yourself from gambling and how much you will be gambling after you win. If you don't want to lose it or maybe use it into something else, it will not be a problem if you can control yourself. I guess discipline will also fall here.

If I win, I don't want to go back to the games because I don't think that I will get another lucky as before. I prefer to stop gamble, withdraw the money if the money is big, and enjoy the money. The lucky moment will not always come to you or me, and we must realize that so we don't risk more money to gamble with the win money. If we have strong discipline, we can handle it with ease, and we can save that win money.

So true. If we can just get ahold of ourselves, we will not be having a problem with a lot of losses especially those losses that we shouldn't even be a loss. I do said this but there are really those times that it is really hard to control ourselves, it is just like you feel you are very lucky and you feel that you can go home with a lot of cash but the opposite happens. A good bettor has control over themselves and is always rational rather than emotional.

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August 14, 2020, 02:38:49 AM
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Probably you are right but of course there also cases that after one win in gambling and then again get some losses to which money pocketed are almost gone then suddenly another luck comes along the way during the betting. This is why others do not want to go or end playing when they can still have some fun despite of having the chances that one will lost all the way.

I think it is the prerogative of a gambler whether he wants to play more or not. And in the times that we need to get more fun this is the wa that can help one to get excitement.

That is the tempted of the gambling that will make gamblers always back to the games and spend more money. We cannot deny that when we play gambling, our passion will become bigger, and we still want to use more time to play. But of course, that will not make our luck will always beside us. It is why we need always to have control to say stop when we think it's enough to play gambling.

The gambler will decide when they will stop gambling, but most of them stop gambling because they run out of their money. That is one condition that forces them to stop and cannot continue playing gambling.

I agree, stopping when you win is a very good choice because you will get full victory, because if you keep playing while winning then you will lose everything because your game is dominated by uncontrollable lust.
because what I experience when I win will trigger curiosity that hopes to continue to win and eventually lose, so when I play gambling it's just for fun and stops when I win or lose according to the capital I have prepared without adding more, and play it in a relaxed and calm manner.

I hope there will attract more gamblers who can stop when they win, so they can save the win money and enjoy that money. Although they cannot always win, with just one big win, and they stop from playing gambling, that will be worth for them because they now have the money, and they can use that money for anything they want.

We need to control the curiosity that we have because that will makes us need more time to play gambling. That will not be good for us, especially if we are tempted to continue playing gambling.

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So true. If we can just get ahold of ourselves, we will not be having a problem with a lot of losses especially those losses that we shouldn't even be a loss. I do said this but there are really those times that it is really hard to control ourselves, it is just like you feel you are very lucky and you feel that you can go home with a lot of cash but the opposite happens. A good bettor has control over themselves and is always rational rather than emotional.

I feel that too, and I have that bad experience before. But if we don't learn to anticipate ourselves from playing more rounds, we will not have a chance to save our money. But I am happy that now I can at least hold myself from playing gambling longer than others because I always remember my bad experience, and I don't want to repeat the same thing.

 
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August 14, 2020, 03:20:20 AM
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A bettor needs to have a certain level of knowledge and understanding on a sport/game that he wishes to place his money on. You do not blindly bet on something because you're feeling lucky, and it's not most of the time that luck favors your side so you need to have some prior knowledge to the teams/athlete/player participating in a game before putting your money on their performance. A cautious bettor is a good bettor for me since they know when to stop, how to research and when to push for more bets to get the maximum profit possible. It's not enough that you have the game knowledge on your arsenal, you also need to have self-control to stop and not pushing your luck to its absolute limits, too.
Yes, good bettors are not only about certain knowledge and understanding because in gambling at least a good bettor will also be aware of the situation and conditions that occur at the same time, because by having good feelings, of course this will make it easier for you to control yourself to stop or continue. Basically good bettors are those who have had a lot of experience in gambling itself, so even if you have a lot of strategies that you can get from many sources, it still won't guarantee you to be a good bettor.

More on controlling yourself, if you have that discipline and you are precise with doing your strategy, it will allow you to stop when it's needed either sides win or lose, it's best to have a good control with your emotions, its saves you a lot, not just your bankroll but also your temper, without good control, you are more prone to addiction and that's not the qualities of being a good bettor.

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August 14, 2020, 06:03:27 AM
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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?

You will eventually become good at something if you have been dong this for a long time and you spend a lot of time analyzing and setting up a system to make analysis much easier, they do exist if you look around you will eventually meet people who are successfully betting with a higher ratio of winning against losing.
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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

I totally agree with you, that experience plays a very important role in making us a good bettor. But many people prioritize other things
such as knowledge and making the best strategy as the main factors of being a good bettor. Even though we shouldn't be too focused on it.
If you have a long experience, it will automatically create our knowledge develops and from experience we can learn from the mistakes we
make, it will create a powerful strategy.

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August 14, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
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If you're uncertain whether or not you'd make a good gambler, then chances are you're not.  As others have pointed out, for wagers against living animals, knowing their previous wins and losses / whether they are at or near their peak performance can play an important factor, however, more random games such as the throw of the dice, flip of the card, or where the ball lands, these increasingly require a different kind of skill.

But if you could predict where a ball will land, then the game isn't tough enough to wager on in the first place.

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I've been thinking about betting and what allows a person to be good at it. There's reason to believe that betting on, say, sports, is skill-based, as at least there are some people famous for being good at it. But if a person is betting on horse races, does the person need to know a lot about horses and horse races or can one be a successful bettor based on other things (for instance, choosing a certain strategy based on the odds or simply reading what others say about an upcoming race)? Is it about knowing how to bet or what you're betting on, what do you think? And do you think betting something a person can become good at or is it that there's a low probability of there being people who bet successfully on a regular basis and these people just exist?
You will eventually become good at something if you have been dong this for a long time and you spend a lot of time analyzing and setting up a system to make analysis much easier, they do exist if you look around you will eventually meet people who are successfully betting with a higher ratio of winning against losing.

Their ratio doesn't matter.

What matters here is how you would be able to do such things, better things than them. I am not saying that you should be competitive with these people, what I am saying is that if you gather enough knowledge, enough experience in this platform, in these bettings, you should be able to start something that they might not know and you will be popular in your own way. It is hard but gathering information and analysis based on others could led you to something good. Despite all of that, you should not always depend on what they can give, it is always based on what you can do.
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August 14, 2020, 09:24:16 AM
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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

It is "possible" to know the winners without "the stats" or having "ample knowledge about all of the subjects"
It can be revealed to you "supernaturally" by our CREATOR. This is the part many people don't want believe exist even though HE does.

But we would just rely on hardwork because of other bettors... so we don't have unequal advantage over them just for selfish reason

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The true success will happen if you doing two things: combining knowledge about subject of betting (i think this is 2/3 of success) with a needed strategy of betting (1/3 of success ). But "strategy" is more about accounting of your bets rather than some "magic" actions like probability strategies or expected value.

Sometimes experience plays a factor in a game I have known people who develop a hunch by looking on the players or horses that are playing or running but these people will not developed this kind of hunch if they are not looking at the stats and had ample knowledge about the all the subjects.

It is "possible" to know the winners without "the stats" or having "ample knowledge about all of the subjects"
It can be revealed to you "supernaturally" by our CREATOR. This is the part many people don't want believe exist even though HE does.
That's what you called luck, but you can't be a good bettor if you always rely on luck, you need some consistency here so you'll be able to survive when time comes that you will be tested, gambling if you take it seriously, you need to consider it a journey where you face challenges along the way and you just have to improve.


But we would just rely on hardwork because of other bettors... so we don't have unequal advantage over them just for selfish reason

Hardwork is useless if you can't win, that's a waste time, you need to be smart to win, and you need to stop when you don't have a chance.

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That's what you called luck, but you can't be a good bettor if you always rely on luck, you need some consistency here so you'll be able to survive when time comes that you will be tested, gambling if you take it seriously, you need to consider it a journey where you face challenges along the way and you just have to improve.

Hardwork is useless if you can't win, that's a waste time, you need to be smart to win, and you need to stop when you don't have a chance.
I agree with what you said. I have only recently become interested in betting like this. You can compare it to science as if you were just experimenting. I do not rely too much on luck because when you know you have a strategy that is used for you that is effective you can achieve what you expect. However, what still matters is that you know what you are doing and the limit. I just enjoy my games, win or lose is okay because I know that only two sides are the destination result.

Why bet if you just lose? You should not think of losing ...

That said, if you are going to fight you must be ready, carrying a weapon ...

You will learn a lot from your future gaming experiences. Of course, you should also know what you are playing. Choose where you are good ... Once you have learned something, then you can think of ways to somehow have a chance to win.

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