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In Australia, the Prime Minister has voiced in the public media that Bitcoin BTC is handled the same as a foreign currency but it isn't a foreign currency. Common or general accounting practices show from an accounting perspective a Bitcoin wallet BTC is the same as a PayPal account where it holds an apparent balance but is not an Australian bank account. Bitcoin BTC is in regular use and is accumulated as a pseudo commodity where the only physical value is perceived by the balance display but it may be held, revalued, and exchanged for actual currency. The technical challenges are few and the workings simple to proceed to use Bitcoin with regularity BTC. Still, it must be mixed if privacy is a consideration. Apart from choosing a wallet, which for most, an SPV wallet such as Electrum should be chosen for their desktop computer, while the Bitcoin community BTC itself benefits from the use of a full node such as Bitcoin Core, the privacy is configurable to prevent identification of the internet point of origin through the use of The Onion Router. Thereafter, only address mapping can be achieved once successfully configured BTC. In order to prevent interested third-parties from mapping together data if your transactions into a view of your spending income and wallet; A Bitcoin Mixer BTC should always be used for privacy and to ensure that retailers and others you interact with on Bitcoin exchanges BTC cannot see your utxo, your change address or amount, or any other recipients attached in a transaction. We offer the following service introduction. Heavily tested Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 provides an easy to use interface suitable for mixing to standard and segwit BTCBitcoin addresses the mixer is available from the following links Clearnet: https://www.go-overt.com/Tor link: overtsgjd4xmgu25uegho7p3ez47solhiri5xpylcgm2tlofbafrzwid.onionTelegram: t.me/OvertBTCMixerbotWhy use a Bitcoin mixer?https://www.youtube.com/embed/iFyaL7avwJ8For centuries criminals have been trying to steal from unsuspecting people and merchants. With the publicly available data provided by the blockchain, modern criminals are able to identify and target poorly enabled wallet privacy for more specific advantage when trying to steal Bitcoin. Apart from the use of The Onion router to conceal the internet origin of a transaction the use of a Bitcoin mixer disconnects the movement of Bitcoin between your wallet and the transaction recipient provides the necessary security to prevent public scrutiny. No-one should ever be afraid to pay taxes and honestly maintain all accounts, but with cash the only way to track which notes are spending where is to literally follow closely sand observe which is the same level of privacy provided by the use of a mixer. This passes government scrutiny. It is all transparency because it is published on the blockchain and a transaction set forming a block is easy to publicly model for the elucidation of luminary's using a cash exchange fishbowl with transfer dockets and ten-minute settlement. Using a Bitcoin mixer is mandatory in some circumstances and is a good idea at all times. How to use a Bitcoin mixer?Receiving Bitcoin:Visit Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 and click on Start Bitcoin Anonymization. Enter one or two Bitcoin receiving addresses starting with 1. or 3., and click on Mix My Coins. On the Mixing Active screen you can download the letter of contract with the [banned mixer] Partner BTC Mixing Service, there is a fee calculator at the bottom of the screen, and a send-to address and QR code are displayed to send your Bitcoin. Give the sender this send-to address and the Bitcoin Mixer will mix and send to the address you provided earlier. The minimum is 0.005 BTC and up to 50 BTC per transaction. Each mixing session is open for 168 hours and you can send multiple times, some people have been known to send hundreds of BTC in multiple lots of 50 BTC. Once you send, check your wallet to monitor progress. If you want to understand the relevance you can make use of Bitcoin mixing regularly, either in when you receive, out when you spend, or both for best privacy. in --> mix --> wallet --> mix --> out It could be that you are buying Bitcoin from an exchange or broker, or you need to receive a payment for goods someone is buying from you. Give the sender the send-to address provided and the Bitcoin Mixer will mix and forward the received BTC to the wallet addresses you provided earlier. Sending BitcoinVisit Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 and click on Start Bitcoin Anonymization. Get usually one but up to two Bitcoin receiving addresses to send to from whom you are paying and enter those in the page. Click on Mix My Coins and send your Bitcoin payment to the Bitcoin address provided. Note that you will need to allow a little extra to cover the cost of the mixing fees, there is a calculator at the bottom of the page. You can send from 0.005 BTC up to a maximum of 50 BTC per Bitcoin transaction and you can send multiple times. Each mixing session is open for 168 hours, some people have been known to send hundreds of BTC in multiple lots of 50 BTC. Once you send, check your wallet to monitor progress. It could be that you are buying pizza or some new furniture, a Lamborghini or, a new property. Get from the receiver the send-to addresses for their wallet and the Bitcoin Mixer will mix and forward the received BTC you send on the mixer send-to address it provides. How does the mixer work?![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2F%255Bbanned%2Bmixer%255D%2Fimages%2Fscheme-1.png&t=665&c=7IzeWV9JbzIzAQ) source: [banned mixer] ExamplesBitcoin Mixer 2.0 (home): http://bit.ly/2Vg1kPRCreate Mixing Session (enter address): https://bit.ly/2XL9DrbMixing Active (waiting for transaction): http://bit.ly/2JKAXyzThe mixer takes incoming Bitcoin and delivers stored Bitcoin randomly from a pool. The pool is replenished continuously from the cleanest Bitcoin exchanges in Europe, Asia and, North America. If you send 1 BTC you will receive multiple smaller deposits in your wallet, less the mixing fee. Mixing may take up to usually within 6 hours to complete. Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 is an automated Bitcoin mixer. 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Wouldn't a user achieve much of the same mixing simply by depositing into any number of exchanges on his own? And then simply request withdrawals from all of them. They would at least that way ensure (as far as they can trust an exchange anyway) that they get back their funds. Either way, your service already looks slightly different from the rest if you're promising only "clean" exchanges (that definition's arguable no? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) and a way to "participate" (https://[banned mixer]/become-seller.php). Where was 1.0 thread? I'd like to have a look =)
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August 09, 2020, 12:15:33 PM Last edit: August 10, 2020, 01:20:40 PM by Go-Overt |
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Wouldn't a user achieve much of the same mixing simply by depositing into any number of exchanges on his own? And then simply request withdrawals from all of them. They would at least that way ensure (as far as they can trust an exchange anyway) that they get back their funds. Either way, your service already looks slightly different from the rest if you're promising only "clean" exchanges (that definition's arguable no? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) and a way to "participate" (https://[banned mixer]/become-seller.php). Where was 1.0 thread? I'd like to have a look =) I am aware from those working separately on other partnerships with [banned mixer] that they often reject Bitcoin deposits depending on several factors but also the traceable history of Bitcoin in the transaction, for example they may be linked back to a heist or high-risk casino I suspect. I invite you to trial the mixer and post back with your success, you can see I have attached now also some data to the announcement, however, you can mix for free minus your transaction fee (send exactly 0.001 BTC plus fee) if you use the Mix Coins For Free button to see how it works? -DA.
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as your site is very new i think you will have to offer small amounts of bitcoin for some forum members to test your site and post here how everything went on your site, this will bring positive feedbacks about your site
you can also buy advertising here on the forum and you can run a signature campaign here on the forum to promote your site
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as your site is very new i think you will have to offer small amounts of bitcoin for some forum members to test your site and post here how everything went on your site, this will bring positive feedbacks about your site
you can also buy advertising here on the forum and you can run a signature campaign here on the forum to promote your site
They had contacted me a long time ago, I suggest them to create ANN thread first on this forum (I was in the Jambler chat group from a long time). Eventually, they contacted me again today about run their signature campaign. But I have suggested them to run a review campaign before running a signature campaign. Even they have sent me a small amount of funds as an escrow. But there some issue regarding minimum mixing amount, its 0.005 BTC for Start Bitcoin Anonymization. And for the Mix Coins For Free its 0.001 BTC. So we are on the discussion regarding the review/signature campaign. Also, high transaction fees are another issue lately. Hope tomorrow we can reach on a final decision.
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August 09, 2020, 05:24:50 PM Last edit: August 09, 2020, 05:35:31 PM by LeGaulois |
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What is the need to use Cloudflare's SSL, there are alternatives as letsencrypt...Good for a blog maybe but as a mixer CF is a NO, NO, NO as everything is unencrypted.
Cloudflare is able to know and collect visitors' IPs, what's inside the letter of guarantee, what's the deposit address, bla bla bla Perfect to get the address source and the destination
Imagine an agency sending a request to CF, the person is busted...
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August 09, 2020, 06:37:39 PM Last edit: August 09, 2020, 06:53:58 PM by notblox1 |
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It is always good to have more reliable mixing services in crypto space, but I think Chipmixer is the king for now. You will have to work hard to compete with them, as minimum deposit is 0.005 BTC compared to Chipmixer 0.001 BTC. That is five times more! Free mixing option is interesting idea but service fee is a bit high for full version (4.9%+0.0007 BTC)
Is there any advantages that I am missing here, compared to Chipmixer, Samourai and Wasabi wallets?
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Is there any advantages that I am missing here, compared to Chipmixer, Samourai and Wasabi wallets?
Well, their feature of admitting public participation could be an advantage: it increases the complexity of joins and potential volume of mixing, I suppose at critical mass it could easily be the biggest mixpool. It's also a potential disadvantage though. If their algos aren't good enough, or people find a way to bypass it, then you actually introduce identification pathways to your clients.
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August 10, 2020, 12:34:10 PM Last edit: August 10, 2020, 01:29:12 PM by Go-Overt |
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It is always good to have more reliable mixing services in crypto space, but I think Chipmixer is the king for now. You will have to work hard to compete with them, as minimum deposit is 0.005 BTC compared to Chipmixer 0.001 BTC. That is five times more! Free mixing option is interesting idea but service fee is a bit high for full version (4.9%+0.0007 BTC)
Is there any advantages that I am missing here, compared to Chipmixer, Samourai and Wasabi wallets?
The free mix is to trial service and is only for deposit amount of 0.001 BTC You have identified one main advantage, it is always good to have more reliable mixing services in crypto space, but you can see on the posts above yours that they admit participants and moderate incoming Bitcoin supply. 0.005 BTC is not very much, likely the amount will reduce as the value of Bitcoin increases. I have not looked at Samourai but in the case of Wasabi consider that the conjoin mechanism may not resilient to some forms of attack. -DA.
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What is the need to use Cloudflare's SSL, there are alternatives as letsencrypt...Good for a blog maybe but as a mixer CF is a NO, NO, NO as everything is unencrypted.
Cloudflare is able to know and collect visitors' IPs, what's inside the letter of guarantee, what's the deposit address, bla bla bla Perfect to get the address source and the destination
Imagine an agency sending a request to CF, the person is busted...
You imagine the operation of the technology that I employ for Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 to be simple like a regular implementation. In fact, it is difficult. It is possible to use a VPN to connect a server to Cloudflare so that it has no external IP addresses and it is a good service, reasonably secure. Nothing on the internet is impervious to inspection and you should presume all traffic is inspected even if it is not necessarily. That is why people prefer The Onion. Anyway, what person is busted using a legal service legally? As it is the platform is a modular and mixing Bitcoin cannot be wrong, it is not an attempt to hide from the legitimate government. Even if you ignore this attached document it is referenced here. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/87694/75001-DA.
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August 12, 2020, 01:05:06 PM Last edit: July 08, 2021, 05:34:18 PM by HibouLeMaitre |
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It is always good to have more reliable mixing services in crypto space, but I think Chipmixer is the king for now.
I agree with you, chipmixer is really the best bitcoin mixer at the moment. But I believe that new services should appear on the market. This is progress ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Archived for future reference: [ 1a], [ 1b] In Australia, the Prime Minister has voiced in the public media that BitcoinBTC is handled the same as a foreign currency but it isn't a foreign currency.
I call you out on that one. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been talking about the Covid-19 pandemic for months to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Where are you quoting from?
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Archived for future reference: [ 1a], [ 1b] In Australia, the Prime Minister has voiced in the public media that BitcoinBTC is handled the same as a foreign currency but it isn't a foreign currency.
I call you out on that one. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been talking about the Covid-19 pandemic for months to the exclusion of nearly everything else. Where are you quoting from? It is worth questioning, it was more than months ago. I took note of what was said at the time but, not to create a reference, only thinking how good it was to have a consistent view now, nonetheless, it is in the public media released on free-to-air television, or on MSN or similar, I believe taken in Canberra published not more than three-and-a-half Years ago, and at least eighteen-months ago. The actual words are more like, 'in Australia Bitccoin is (handled/treated) the same as a foreign currency.' and, to explain, it is not a foreign currency and it has not been said.
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Long overdue since Go-Overt allowed me to test their mixer. I had some issues with my wallet, and couldn't access coins so far. But anyway, here's my two cents:
The overall experience is very seamless. From the moment you initiate the form to the point where you send the coins to the address the site shows, it's all very fast. Go-Overt even gave me a dynamic update the moment the transaction hit the blockchain, telling me to keep checking for confirmations. I'd say the experience is very simple and easy to get into, so that's a big plus.
The service seems to be based on privacy quite a bit and from my experience fits all the requirements for a mixer with good privacy. HTTPS and PGP & TOR are all there for those looking to utilize extra privacy in every step of the way. The transaction time to get the coins back is up to 6 hours which sadly doesn't seem to have an option for adjustment. But that's also in par with standards for better privacy when mixing. Not that I'm an expert, but I couldn't find anything making the transaction I got seem like it was from a mixer or anything I could identify. The system behind the website seems to be doing a lot for good mixing, so perhaps those that are more knowledgeable could appreciate it even more. My only feedback for something to change would be to potentially offer a slider to adjust max time (at expense of privacy). Also there's a generated and signed letter of guarantee for each transaction, which is nice.
Overall the core service seems of good quality and I would recommend it to those interested.
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Can not understand. Is that just a scheme and server is capable of mixing coins from any numbers of parties or it actually mixes UTXOs belonging exclusively to two parties? To test, can I mix the coins from my own but three different wallets?
Terminology is a mutex in the lexicography of Bitcoin where we equate many views of the same operations with only one truth rather than an expanding model including differential references. UTXO's, true but in the mind of the user that is a wallet address, in many cases several UTXO's a set of even if some are reused. Let m e establish a testing protocol if you have some Bitcoin to mix anyway and choose to participate. This is suggested because I do not have the answer, there are two intermediate buckets in the diagram, however, an undefined limit of input sources to those buckets, even where the relationship to the bucket is undetectable we suppose, and that the return from a mixing deposit transaction is not immediate but with some delay, so to establish a mixing session and then make multiple deposits immediately subsequent to each other and all greater than 0.005 BTC in value, then to observe or better to analyse the resultant returns. Often, I am mixing en-route concisely with the making of a payment in which case my wallet is certainly disconnected, but, I am still able to monitor the receiving address(es). If you consider?
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Can not understand. Is that just a scheme and server is capable of mixing coins from any numbers of parties or it actually mixes UTXOs belonging exclusively to two parties? To test, can I mix the coins from my own but three different wallets?
Terminology is a mutex in the lexicography of Bitcoin where we equate many views of the same operations with only one truth rather than an expanding model including differential references. UTXO's, true but in the mind of the user that is a wallet address, in many cases several UTXO's a set of even if some are reused. Let m e establish a testing protocol if you have some Bitcoin to mix anyway and choose to participate. This is suggested because I do not have the answer, there are two intermediate buckets in the diagram, however, an undefined limit of input sources to those buckets, even where the relationship to the bucket is undetectable we suppose, and that the return from a mixing deposit transaction is not immediate but with some delay, so to establish a mixing session and then make multiple deposits immediately subsequent to each other and all greater than 0.005 BTC in value, then to observe or better to analyse the resultant returns. Often, I am mixing en-route concisely with the making of a payment in which case my wallet is certainly disconnected, but, I am still able to monitor the receiving address(es). If you consider? Spelling aside, you do realise you just wrote a single sentence that went on for four whole lines and contains seven commas? It's almost as though you've just thrown random words together in the hopes they mean something. And, it doesn't answer the question posed to you.
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Can not understand. Is that just a scheme and server is capable of mixing coins from any numbers of parties or it actually mixes UTXOs belonging exclusively to two parties? To test, can I mix the coins from my own but three different wallets?
Terminology is a mutex in the lexicography of Bitcoin where we equate many views of the same operations with only one truth rather than an expanding model including differential references. UTXO's, true but in the mind of the user that is a wallet address, in many cases several UTXO's a set of even if some are reused. Let m e establish a testing protocol if you have some Bitcoin to mix anyway and choose to participate. This is suggested because I do not have the answer, there are two intermediate buckets in the diagram, however, an undefined limit of input sources to those buckets, even where the relationship to the bucket is undetectable we suppose, and that the return from a mixing deposit transaction is not immediate but with some delay, so to establish a mixing session and then make multiple deposits immediately subsequent to each other and all greater than 0.005 BTC in value, then to observe or better to analyse the resultant returns. Often, I am mixing en-route concisely with the making of a payment in which case my wallet is certainly disconnected, but, I am still able to monitor the receiving address(es). If you consider? Spelling aside, you do realise you just wrote a single sentence that went on for four whole lines and contains seven commas? It's almost as though you've just thrown random words together in the hopes they mean something. And, it doesn't answer the question posed to you. it seemed to me that OP answered the question and even offered to test in practice what @xenon131 is asking. or maybe I got it wrong! disclaimer: I as a participant in the signature campaign want to make it clear that I am being neutral here!
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September 23, 2020, 01:02:36 PM |
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Can not understand. Is that just a scheme and server is capable of mixing coins from any numbers of parties or it actually mixes UTXOs belonging exclusively to two parties? To test, can I mix the coins from my own but three different wallets?
Terminology is a mutex in the lexicography of Bitcoin where we equate many views of the same operations with only one truth rather than an expanding model including differential references. UTXO's, true but in the mind of the user that is a wallet address, in many cases several UTXO's a set of even if some are reused. Let m e establish a testing protocol if you have some Bitcoin to mix anyway and choose to participate. This is suggested because I do not have the answer, there are two intermediate buckets in the diagram, however, an undefined limit of input sources to those buckets, even where the relationship to the bucket is undetectable we suppose, and that the return from a mixing deposit transaction is not immediate but with some delay, so to establish a mixing session and then make multiple deposits immediately subsequent to each other and all greater than 0.005 BTC in value, then to observe or better to analyse the resultant returns. Often, I am mixing en-route concisely with the making of a payment in which case my wallet is certainly disconnected, but, I am still able to monitor the receiving address(es). If you consider? Spelling aside, you do realise you just wrote a single sentence that went on for four whole lines and contains seven commas? It's almost as though you've just thrown random words together in the hopes they mean something. And, it doesn't answer the question posed to you. The ',' may be used to add clarity - alternatively hyphenating a section may also be used - depending on whether additional explanation is required. The use of bracketing is best avoided and it provides for some readers non-reading sections (rather than to explain and provide inline notes where it is better with -).
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October 02, 2020, 03:12:52 PM |
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Is there any advantages that I am missing here, compared to Chipmixer, Samourai and Wasabi wallets?
Both Samourai and Wasabi wallet are more transparent and you have full control your Bitcoin all the time. I would use both over any kinds of mixer. I think you miss the part all SPV wallets cant be used alone when security/anonymity is the top priority and with the statement made by CipherTrace, chain analysis, etc I think people need to be more careful when using SPV wallet. Mind you, the shortcoming detected about Wasabi that a large amount of transaction can be bypass and I once a thread where Theymos advise the use of a mixer and SPV wallet when anonymity is the top priority.
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October 03, 2020, 11:56:38 AM |
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Is there any advantages that I am missing here, compared to Chipmixer, Samourai and Wasabi wallets?
Both Samourai and Wasabi wallet are more transparent and you have full control your Bitcoin all the time. I would use both over any kinds of mixer. I think you miss the part all SPV wallets cant be used alone when security/anonymity is the top priority and with the statement made by CipherTrace, chain analysis, etc I think people need to be more careful when using SPV wallet. Mind you, the shortcoming detected about Wasabi that a large amount of transaction can be bypass and I once a thread where Theymos advise the use of a mixer and SPV wallet when anonymity is the top priority. I don't remember technical detail of Samourai, but Wasabi: 1. Uses Tor by default 2. Uses BIP 157/neutrino which improve privacy of SPV wallet 3. Will use your own full node (if you run one) Don't compare Wasabi with other SPV wallet such as Electrum. I totally know how Wasabi wallet operate and I dont compare it either with other SPV wallet cause they are not using the same technology to provide there service but you saying you'll use both Samourai and Wasabi over any kinds of mixer is the reason why I said in a situation when anonymity is important it not advisable to use only SPV wallet cause there are some information that the UTXO of privacy wallet can be breach what was said by Cipher trace and OXT research.
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