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August 10, 2020, 02:51:33 PM Last edit: May 26, 2021, 04:47:22 AM by Coolcryptovator |
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Here is the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267371.0 Although I don't want to see their advertisement on the forum unless they solve all the issues, but seems lots of users applying them even they are aware of 1xbit shady behavior. It's pretty clear they aren't friendly enough to resolve all the issues raised against them even they had opened the resolution thread. Moving resolution thread on Archival and delete thread prove they don't care about forum users opinions. Edit; seems they moved the resolution thread again on the reputation. Support/oppose flag type-1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2204It would be nice to create flag type 2 or 3 by the victim. Update: 26-05-2021New signature campaign thread launched: 1xbit.com signature campaign (open). Review campaign: 1xbit.com honest review campaign (open). Flags against new account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267853.0
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August 10, 2020, 03:01:03 PM |
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Well maybe they realized that hiring some campaign participants will help them to restore their reputation. They are seeing example in the recent days. So, why blaming them only :-P
For the record those who do not understand this post, it's a sarcasm.
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August 10, 2020, 03:07:43 PM |
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Well maybe they realized that hiring some campaign participants will help them to restore their reputation. They are seeing example in the recent days. So, why blaming them only :-P
I know blaming them wouldn't change anything. As you mentioned in the recent case, probably they are friendly to resolve accusations against them. But 1xbit is different from them since even they deleted their resolution thread. They are thinking simply to run a campaign would clean their old bad records. But most probably it will fail when gamblers will encounter again their ToS drama.
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August 10, 2020, 03:19:08 PM |
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I know blaming them wouldn't change anything. As you mentioned in the recent case, probably they are friendly to resolve accusations against them. But 1xbit is different from them since even they deleted their resolution thread. They are thinking simply to run a campaign would clean their old bad records. But most probably it will fail when gamblers will encounter again their ToS drama.
As concern users we can do our job (flagging, tagging) without making much talk about it. The more you type the sites name (xxxx, yyyy) the more it helps them to rank in the search engine. These ToS, failed KYC are gone too far lately. It's like if you win too much we will take your winnings but if you lose then you are VIP for us. There are nothing more to talk about these recent events happening around. All are very similar cases.
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August 10, 2020, 03:25:23 PM |
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They just moved their resolution thread back to the reputation board from archival and edited the title and content of the thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg54938685#msg54938685It was likely a response to this thread and the negative feedbacks left on their profile. This shows they had no intention of clearing their name or attending to the complaints by users, but are rather looking for ways to improve their public image and promote their website.
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August 10, 2020, 03:26:36 PM |
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Well maybe they realized that hiring some campaign participants will help them to restore their reputation. They are seeing example in the recent days. So, why blaming them only :-P
I know blaming them wouldn't change anything. As you mentioned in the recent case, probably they are friendly to resolve accusations against them. But 1xbit is different from them since even they deleted their resolution thread. They are thinking simply to run a campaign would clean their old bad records. But most probably it will fail when gamblers will encounter again their ToS drama. They deleted the first post of the resolution thread. And no escrow hired for their campaign, its not good. DTs will probably interfere with what they are doing. The number of scam accusations to them are just intolerable especially the ones where they use their TOS excuse to blocked accounts. I don't think it will be solved by just runing a campaign.
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August 10, 2020, 03:28:32 PM |
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Thread is back to reputation, we were planning to post directly to scam accusation thread, but some users find it negative that's why we moved the thread back in reputation board.
if your account was banned by a mistake, we will solve it. In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
But keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
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August 10, 2020, 03:34:25 PM |
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Thread is back to reputation, we were planning to post directly to scam accusation thread, but some users find it negative that's why we moved the thread back in reputation board.
Why was the thread moved initially and the original content and title edited out? if your account was banned by a mistake, we will solve it. In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
Reasons would need to be backed up by proof, it's not enough to say, 'user X is connected to user Y who was banned from the website', you would also need to establish the connection and present the evidence, otherwise every website could arbitrarily lock users out after they win.
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August 10, 2020, 03:40:19 PM Last edit: August 10, 2020, 03:54:20 PM by YOSHIE |
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I added some more food supplies to: @ 1xbit_official, to warn, "the food they serve is very poisonous" there are many fraud cases that have not been resolved by their team and site. @Coolcryptovator, create a flag.
But keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
We need proof, 1xbit site victim funds, if you return it to the victim. Everyone can talk, but until now you have not shown the results, that you finish it.
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August 10, 2020, 03:56:29 PM |
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I know blaming them wouldn't change anything. As you mentioned in the recent case, probably they are friendly to resolve accusations against them. But 1xbit is different from them since even they deleted their resolution thread. They are thinking simply to run a campaign would clean their old bad records. But most probably it will fail when gamblers will encounter again their ToS drama.
Without resolving accusations they are just trying to run their signature. Isn’t it enough for you to detect that they are quite aggressive in this field ? I am completely agree with "Royse777" and we should stop talking about them. It was their responsibility to resolve all the issues before running the campaign but sorry to say that our expectations was too much high. Anyway, Let them follow their way and follow your own. Edit: Tagged from my end and it will remain same until they solve all the accusations.
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suchmoon
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August 10, 2020, 04:04:39 PM |
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Thread is back to reputation, we were planning to post directly to scam accusation thread, but some users find it negative that's why we moved the thread back in reputation board.
if your account was banned by a mistake, we will solve it. In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
But keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
You haven't solved anything and your reasons don't make sense. In a he said / she said scenario I would trust SyGambler far more than I would trust you unless proven otherwise. Removing the thread like that without explanation looked like an attempt to bury complaints expressed in the thread. It took red trust to bring it back therefore red trust will stay so that you don't get tempted to pull something like this again.
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August 10, 2020, 04:27:08 PM |
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but seems lots of users applying them even they are aware of 1xbit shady behavior.
20 bucks is 20 bucks ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
Can you say exact reason for: they now basically saying that I was multi accounting and arbitraging with them which is a complete joke
Explain how this person cheated your site and your reasoning behind stealing their funds.
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August 10, 2020, 04:55:38 PM |
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There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
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August 10, 2020, 05:04:15 PM |
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Even after I and several other people posted warnings in their bounty campaign thread, there are still people applying. It looks like some people really don't care what they're promoting if they make at least a few bucks - what a shame. Edit: Tagged from my end and it will remain same until they solve all the accusations.
I also tagged them and will only remove my tag, if they resolve all ongoing scam accusations.
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August 10, 2020, 05:29:38 PM |
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There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
No user would rescind his feedback because a website launched a signature campaign, in the case of best_change, they were able to clear their websites name and even at that, the red tags still remained, but then their signature campaign went on for months and the users in the campaign were paid smoothly as well the fact that there was no fresh issue against their website, so it's fair to say the website can be trusted and thus almost every user who had initially left a negative, revised it to a positive or neutral. That being said, 1xbit is doing nothing to clear their name from the initial scam accusation, so I'm sure the tags will remain till that happens.
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August 10, 2020, 05:43:10 PM |
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but seems lots of users applying them even they are aware of 1xbit shady behavior.
20 bucks is 20 bucks ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I guess a lot of them don't even know anything about 1xbit and scam accusations against them. OK, now they have gone red and things are different. There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
No user would rescind his feedback because a website launched a signature campaign, in the case of best change, they were able to clear their websites name and even at that, the red tags still remained, but then their signature campaign went on for months and the users in the campaign were paid smoothly as well the fact that there was no fresh issue against their website, so it's fair to say the website can be trusted and thus almost every user who had initially left a negative, revised it to a positive or neutral. That being said, 1xbit is doing nothing to clear their name from the initial scam accusation, so I'm sure the tags will remain till that happens. do not compare these two situations. BestChange successfully solved all (one) accusations against them. even those that are not directly their fault. Feedbacks like "Multiple active scam accusations against this site (1xBit)" they look much more serious, and it takes more effort than signature campaign if they want to improve his rating.
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Let's see: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5266815.htmlBut keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back. Why would you do that? And how could a player cheat? Usually, that shouldn't be possible.
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August 10, 2020, 06:21:53 PM |
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I added some more food supplies to: @ 1xbit_official, to warn, "the food they serve is very poisonous" there are many fraud cases that have not been resolved by their team and site.
People can only add such food supplies to other people who don't have a position here, who don't have people to BACK them. On the other hand, there are other poisonous food which everyone knows poisonous but react as delicious because a group of people are saying delicious. Thanks to the group for saying so. Otherwise, some people wouldn't have their meal as they couldn't eat poisonous food.
I supported the flag because 1xbit/bet deserve that. Edit- OP, why have you refereced the thread by 1xbit in the flag? Once that is deleted, it will be an invalid flag.
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August 10, 2020, 07:10:07 PM |
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And how could a player cheat?
The definition of cheating here depends essencially on the casino's T&C. Users are usualy accused of cheating when: - multiaccounting - arbitraging - using VPN/proxy to connect from a banned country - abusing bonuses - exploiting vulnerabilities on the website or taking advantage of bugs on the game itself - double spending a deposit transaction on casinos accepting zero-confirmation transactions ... There are different ways for users to cheat but the problem and what happens usually is that casinos use the above excuses to ban whover they want without having to provide any evidence.
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August 10, 2020, 08:03:32 PM |
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I also tagged them and will only remove my tag, if they resolve all ongoing scam accusations.
When they said they are here to resolve all issues, I don't think they really mean that. I guess a lot of them don't even know anything about 1xbit and scam accusations against them. OK, now they have gone red and things are different.
Yep, not everyone here is familiar with shady gambling sites so when such users see signature campaign they just join it. It is good to see that users are withdrawing their applications. (Archived for record http://archive.is/8hPpF) OP, why have you refereced the thread by 1xbit in the flag? Once that is deleted, it will be an invalid flag.
Actually, flag is invalid: You must link to a topic documenting your specific concerns. Someone visiting your topic should get a clear idea of what this flag is about. The topic must not be self-moderated.
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