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[Finestream]

Post can only be deleted after 24 hours, so people mark it as delete so they can delete the post whenever possible.

I also do the same in the past when I apply for a campaign and believe that post is not necessary anymore, I delete it after 24 hours, sometimes people also forget to delete the post though they mark it as delete, this is mostly done by participants not accepted in a signature campaign.

[bL4nkcode]

Additional post count, nothing else.

As they can delete the post instead of posting "Deleted".

[YOSHIE]

In general, I did not understand the meaning of such posts a little, can someone explain to me what their meaning is and why they are so valuable that they are not deleted by users, but edited in this way

That's what humans say 'Same hair black / different minds'.
Of course, everyone who leaves scribbled writing has their own reasons, only that person has the full reason, about the application being crossed out and not deleted.

Reason: general.
1. The application is crossed out not deleted, indicating that I have registered in the campaign and I have posted on a certain topic.
2. There are some accusations, after the accusation has been corrected, the main post is not deleted and just crossed out for evidence.
3. Just for fun and let the app stay on topic.
4. And many other reasons, clearly the writing on the crossed out does not disturb other users.

[minairia3]

I think its a form of gesture. Some user do this like what Finestream explained, they are removing their application on campaign by simply putting strikethrough to inform someone that they are not pushing their application and most likely will delete it after the 24 hours rules. Or on some post maybe they just want to show that they edited their post by keeping their previous word and changing with the new one.

In which sections and for which ranks does this rule apply?

I think all sections have a 24 hour rule before you can delete your message with no restriction of the ranks. Not sure though.

[Finestream]

Post can only be deleted after 24 hours.

In which sections and for which ranks does this rule apply?

You can read in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4378072.msg39163661#msg39163661




I don't know what specific boards covered by the rule, since the information or post from Theymos is not a formal announcement based on the thread I saw.

I think all sections have a 24 hour rule before you can delete your message /...

Not all sections per theymos.

[zasad@]

I think how I'd prefer to handle it is to prevent deleting posts within 24 hours of posting them, in the problematic sections only. Which sections are problematic?

I think how I'd prefer to handle it is to prevent deleting posts within 24 hours of posting them

I kinda expect them to just leave their spam much longer, but that can happen with all possible solutions for this problem.

Which sections are problematic?

I've confirmed bump bots in:
-Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Announcements (Altcoins)
-Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Announcements (Altcoins) > Tokens (Altcoins)
-Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Marketplace (Altcoins)

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.

OK, the 24-hour limit is now in place in the sections that people mentioned.

here, too, the limit is set for 24 hours and it does not depend on the rank of the user.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

[Botnake]

Additional post count, nothing else.

As they can delete the post instead of posting "Deleted".

Gaining additional post by posting "deleted" is spamming, if they enroll in a campaign, managers won't count it, so there's no sense of posting deleted to gain post. I think there's an original post to it and they just edited it to deleted while some just crushed the post without editing it.

Just like this post below, I believed Slow death applied for wolf.bet campaign but later accepted in bestchange, so he crashed his application post but did not delete the post.

Here's an example:

Bitcointalk username: Slow death
Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Amount of earned merit in the last 120 days: 34
BTC Address: 321fQLVy8fsiihAx6wXU4qgKmEbnU4Ft8h

There are still x3 Legendary & x1 Hero Member open positions!

Bitcointalk username: Slow death
Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
Amount of earned merit in the last 120 days: 34
BTC Address: 321fQLVy8fsiihAx6wXU4qgKmEbnU4Ft8h
Reapplying

[sheenshane]

Sometimes I did cross out an application and wanted to delete after 24 hours (in the service section, there's a restriction, after 24 hours you can delete your post) but I forgot it to come back my crossed out the post and delete it. Probably that was the same thing to them, they might forget to delete after 24 hours.

If this is intended for post count, I don't think so. Forgetting is always on us as a human. But it's our responsibility to clean our mess like this and should not forget.

I think all sections have a 24 hour rule before you can delete your message with no restriction of the ranks. Not sure though.

No, this is not so, I deleted a lot of messages and never had any restrictions, I can write a post here and in a second delete it and there will be no restrictions.

AFAIK, only the service section has a restriction like this. You can't delete your post within that time after you've post unless the 24 hours will be passed.

[OcTradism]

It is a restriction on some board where posts can only be deleted after 24 hours. It is common with application posts in campaigns where people withdraw their applications but can not delete at the time, then they erase info, and replace it with "deleted". I doubt that they will remember to come back and delete their applications next days.

It is supported by that rule. They can not make a bump, then delete after few mins, and make a new bump. If they make multi bump within 24 hours, everyone can see it.

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying. [2][e]

Sometimes, scammers use delete for their Announcement thread. When their scam projects are done, they delete words in OP and go.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I observed also many similar topics in the Marketplace section. I assumed that the seller sold the product and didn't bother to clock / delete the topic and chose instead to edit it (including the title) with a nice "delete" message. I thought that maybe some of such members don't know how to delete / lock their topics and chose this option, to edit them.

There are also cases when the seller is trying a scam and after the scam gets revealed by other smart forum members (in their posts), OP chooses to edit the topic with the "delete" message. I noticed a lot of such topics as well. Obviously, these members have no idea about LoyceV's tool which shows their unedited posts lol. As Einstein said once, "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".

However, I see this as redundant posting and I'm reporting all these posts each time I encounter them.

[philipma1957]

Additional post count, nothing else.

As they can delete the post instead of posting "Deleted".

wrong.  Many sections make you wait for 24 hours.

The poster may simply erase the post leave a  .   or mark delete. and then forget to clean it up.

So it can be for keeping post count high.  And it can be due to board rules not allowing a delete.


Could you please alter your post to reflect it is not fully correct.






As for what sections do this.  Marketplace does it.

and they do it to all ranks. newbie to legend

[sujonali1819]

People just forget to delete their post after making it to "deleted/ABCD" Actually these post has no value. It had a little bit worth before the merit system comes for ranking up. Also nowadays no campaign manager counts these posts as eligible for weekly quota. So it is really unnecessary and it's a result of Laziness.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think all sections have a 24 hour rule before you can delete your message with no restriction of the ranks. Not sure though.

No, this is not so, I deleted a lot of messages and never had any restrictions, I can write a post here and in a second delete it and there will be no restrictions.

I'm pretty sure you're right.  I've deleted old posts before, though I can't remember which sections they were in.

Gaining additional post by posting "deleted" is spamming, if they enroll in a campaign, managers won't count it, so there's no sense of posting deleted to gain post.

That might be so, but my guess is that a lot of members don't realize it and don't want to delete any of their posts if they don't have to.  The posts might not count toward a campaign, but they do count toward your rank if you're below Legendary.  If you have enough deleted posts, you could get busted back down to Newbie rank.  But again, I don't know if many members are aware of that, either. 

Additional post count, nothing else.

That'd be my conclusion.  I'd bet on any other forum a member would delete a post with no problem, but since post count is so important on bitcointalk we end up with "deleted" or "del" instead.  Crazy, isn't it?

[bL4nkcode]

wrong.  Many sections make you wait for 24 hours.

The poster may simply erase the post leave a  .   or mark delete. and then forget to clean it up.

So it can be for keeping post count high.  And it can be due to board rules not allowing a delete.


Could you please alter your post to reflect it is not fully correct.

Yes, I might be wrong but based on those dates which is over weeks already or even months, it's either they just keep them there for post count, or just forget about it.

As for me, I'm always reviewing my post history (Idk for some of people here) and deleted post which isn't necessary especially signature applications.

[Timelord2067]

People just forget to delete their post after making it to "deleted/ABCD" Actually these post has no value. It had a little bit worth before the merit system comes for ranking up. Also nowadays no campaign manager counts these posts as eligible for weekly quota. So it is really unnecessary and it's a result of Laziness.

While that may be true it helps propel users' into a higher rank that they can then obtain a better payout in a Signature Campaign.


There was a thread about this only a couple of weeks ago.

[Philipma1957cellphone]

wrong.  Many sections make you wait for 24 hours.

The poster may simply erase the post leave a  .   or mark delete. and then forget to clean it up.

So it can be for keeping post count high.  And it can be due to board rules not allowing a delete.


Could you please alter your post to reflect it is not fully correct.

Yes, I might be wrong but based on those dates which is over weeks already or even months, it's either they just keep them there for post count, or just forget about it.

As for me, I'm always reviewing my post history (Idk for some of people here) and deleted post which isn't necessary especially signature applications.

Yeah my main account is too big with too many posts to bother to check.

I would bet I had to have forgotten to fully delete at least a few . Or delete posts.

Maybe I will go back and check a few pages from 2017. Or 2015.

[Upgrade00]

I think increasing post count is a minimal factor in cases like these.
Posts boosts activity score, which is what is important, and one can only get as much as 14 every fortnight. Hence at a rate of 1 post per day, full activity for that period would be achieved. Also, for one to lose them, they would have to delete all posts made within two weeks. Except one is not active on the forum, it would be easy to avoid losing activity.

There are of course users who simply apply in campaign threads, and may need the extra posts to increase their total number, but they would also need merits for the activity to count. And it would be difficult to get them by posting in only such threads.
I would assume that in almost all of such cases the user forgot to delete their replies or never planned on making the effort to do so.

Even though these are almost two identical posts. Apparently there is some value in them, only I did not understand what  

On the surface the first case offers no content and the mods would need to check the unedited version using LoyceV's script, this would take a lot of time, and would matter little as it's currently off topic and low value.
In the other case, it is possible to see the original content which is an application through the strike through, and it is posted in an appropriate thread. The mods likely give the posters the benefit of the doubt by leaving such replies.

[Twentyonepaylots]

People just forget to delete their post after making it to "deleted/ABCD" Actually these post has no value. It had a little bit worth before the merit system comes for ranking up. Also nowadays no campaign manager counts these posts as eligible for weekly quota. So it is really unnecessary and it's a result of Laziness.

Yeah but these posts escapes in counting when the campaign has a lot of participants especially in bounties. Managers won't have much time to check them one by one and so they are just referring to the posts count of their participants. If you mean to comeback to your post or in the thread, you could have just put 'reserved' as what the others do when they forgot something or when applying in a campaign, coz we know some are having 'first come first served' policy when applying the campaign.

[NavI_027]

Even though these are almost two identical posts. Apparently there is some value in them, only I did not understand what 

See? You didn't even find the value. It only means that such posts are trash. They are just a product of desperation and laziness. Actually, going back to your declined application and deleting it after 24 hrs. is not a time consuming task. It's just so happened that some guilty members simply ignore it because it increases their post anyways.

[snip]

Yeah but these posts escapes in counting when the campaign has a lot of participants especially in bounties. Managers won't have much time to check them one by one and so they are just referring to the posts count of their participants.

Is this even possible? I can't believe it because it is not supposed to be tolerated! Well, the participants are very lucky if that's the case lol . Though we can't say that he is totally lazy like the participants but irresponsible for sure since he is not fulfilling his duty very well. I just hope their campaign still runs very well despite of the  wrongdoings.

If you mean to comeback to your post or in the thread, you could have just put 'reserved' as what the others do when they forgot something or when applying in a campaign, coz we know some are having 'first come first served' policy when applying the campaign.

Yes you can but I bet you now have a lesser chance of getting accepted by doing so. I used to make "reservations" before but I stop because i realized that it annoys the CM. Be a fast typer instead.