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August 12, 2020, 08:52:58 AM
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Bandwidth mining is the next generation of crypto. Proof-of-Work algorithm is useless and pointless because it does not really provide any digital commodity. It's just a ledger. Mesh routers implemented with blockchain technology provide both a P2P ledger and a decentralized internet itself.
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August 12, 2020, 09:00:40 AM
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Proof-of-Work algorithm is useless

$120 billion dollars created from something useless?


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August 12, 2020, 10:22:43 AM
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Ofcourse. That's one interesting area that should be taken seriously by crypto communities and developers.
It should be possible for things like mesh network to easily relay/transmit across large boundaries like forest, rivers, deserts, oceans etc. Have anyone work this out? We could share ideas on how to do this, if it hasn't been done already in efficient, cheap, decentralized, safe/secure manner.
Decentralized internet! That's one area of crypto that isn't given enough attention.
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August 12, 2020, 11:47:59 AM
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Decentralized internet! That's one area of crypto that isn't given enough attention.

Too early to give attention to and it's kinda pointless for now in my opinion. A good read here
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August 12, 2020, 01:43:15 PM
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It is too early to discuss about Proof of Bandwith don't you think that. The world is still struggling to get 5G infrastructure and you are discussing about 6G. I think this is not the right time to jump into anything new until global pandemic situation  gets resolved.

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August 12, 2020, 03:36:01 PM
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Decentralized internet! That's one area of crypto that isn't given enough attention.

Too early to give attention to and it's kinda pointless for now in my opinion. A good read here




Read the article. Saw some interesting points and I found one abit challanging:
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By the way, the internet mustn't have everybody on board. It could simply act as a parallel internet with its own currency/currencies and governance system to easily take care of problem quoted above... this:
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*Users Don't Want the Extra Responsibility*
A system of peer-to-peer protocols would shift the responsibility of maintenance away from the owners of the servers and on to each and every user of a decentralized internet. Which is great for “tech-savvy and politically inclined users” who know how it works and care about their privacy, as MIT pointed out in a recent report quoted in a Medium article on decentralized networks. But that's not enough for everyone.https://tech.co/news/decentralized-internet-guide-2018-02

And I think such network having its own rules and governance system wouldn't prevent the already established national governments from regulating it(decentrally). The regulations should prevent the network participants from breaking national laws/rules that intend to maintain peace, good behavior, etc
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August 12, 2020, 04:11:07 PM
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It is too early to discuss about Proof of Bandwith don't you think that. The world is still struggling to get 5G infrastructure and you are discussing about 6G.
I guess he meant something faster than 5G. Assuming such speed is possible with his mesh network, why not? And ofcourse it has to be be very safe to use.

I think this is not the right time to jump into anything new until global pandemic situation  gets resolved.
What if I told you that something like that can help lessen the problems of pandamics and other problems caused by the way people live today
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August 12, 2020, 04:34:12 PM
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Proof-of-Work algorithm is useless

$120 billion dollars created from something useless?



Most of it is counterfeit money.
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August 12, 2020, 05:01:32 PM
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Ofcourse. That's one interesting area that should be taken seriously by crypto communities and developers.
It should be possible for things like mesh network to easily relay/transmit across large boundaries like forest, rivers, deserts, oceans etc. Have anyone work this out? We could share ideas on how to do this, if it hasn't been done already in efficient, cheap, decentralized, safe/secure manner.
Decentralized internet! That's one area of crypto that isn't given enough attention.

We are trying to work it out and trying to find developers could consolidate a router protocol with a crypto protocol.
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August 12, 2020, 05:03:58 PM
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It is too early to discuss about Proof of Bandwith don't you think that. The world is still struggling to get 5G infrastructure and you are discussing about 6G. I think this is not the right time to jump into anything new until global pandemic situation  gets resolved.

Too early? Recession is the best time to start a new business.
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August 13, 2020, 01:45:55 PM
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Ofcourse. That's one interesting area that should be taken seriously by crypto communities and developers.
It should be possible for things like mesh network to easily relay/transmit across large boundaries like forest, rivers, deserts, oceans etc. Have anyone work this out? We could share ideas on how to do this, if it hasn't been done already in efficient, cheap, decentralized, safe/secure manner.
Decentralized internet! That's one area of crypto that isn't given enough attention.

Does anyone know any devs who could have vision how to implement this?
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August 13, 2020, 02:45:12 PM
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Mesh networks have existed before Bitcoin, and even some people tried to monetize them and somehow incentivize people to "share their bandwidth" (ie. Fonera, etc).

Calling it "6g" or "PoW killer" isn't going to make this old idea any more interesting to anyone. And now Elon Musk is covering the world with 20ms latency links with a mesh of low altitude satellites interlinked at the speed of light in a vacuum (as opposed to slower fiber optic trans-oceanic cables).

5g also has a mesh like function, mostly to the benefit of the mobile carriers.

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August 14, 2020, 02:38:33 PM
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Mesh networks have existed before Bitcoin, and even some people tried to monetize them and somehow incentivize people to "share their bandwidth" (ie. Fonera, etc).

Calling it "6g" or "PoW killer" isn't going to make this old idea any more interesting to anyone. And now Elon Musk is covering the world with 20ms latency links with a mesh of low altitude satellites interlinked at the speed of light in a vacuum (as opposed to slower fiber optic trans-oceanic cables).

5g also has a mesh like function, mostly to the benefit of the mobile carriers.

Sure, but I think the protocols have not been so good earlier. A more advanced mesh is a mobile mesh. It think most mesh protocols so far have been static and that is one thing that has hindered the enthusiasm. 6G is an existing technology. Sure I admit I call it "PoW killer" just to add some shock value to my presentation. lol I'm sure you don't really mind since you are so confident about this Chinese PoW.
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August 14, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
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Musk is covering the world with 20ms latency links with a mesh of low altitude satellites interlinked at the speed of light in a vacuum (as opposed to slower fiber optic trans-oceanic cables).


I think something similar was dicussed here on forum in the past. Part of the suggestions was to have something like that in decentralized form, especially with things that are fairly cheap and uniform like internet balloons that many people can afford and launch together across the world. It's never a good idea to depend on centralized internet/satellites for decentralized networks. The communities should moving to full decentralization and not jumping from one centralized internet to another centralized internet.
That sort thing can be crowdfunded by decentralized-tech enthusiasts around the world as one of the few ways to have  decentralized internet in isolated communities
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August 15, 2020, 08:10:43 AM
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Musk is covering the world with 20ms latency links with a mesh of low altitude satellites interlinked at the speed of light in a vacuum (as opposed to slower fiber optic trans-oceanic cables).


I think something similar was dicussed here on forum in the past. Part of the suggestions was to have something like that in decentralized form, especially with things that are fairly cheap and uniform like internet balloons that many people can afford and launch together across the world. It's never a good idea to depend on centralized internet/satellites for decentralized networks. The communities should moving to full decentralization and not jumping from one centralized internet to another centralized internet.
That sort thing can be crowdfunded by decentralized-tech enthusiasts around the world as one of the few ways to have  decentralized internet in isolated communities

Mesh is always decentralized. That's the whole point with a mesh. Regular ISP's are always centralized.
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August 20, 2020, 11:48:21 AM
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Decentralized internet! That's one area of crypto that isn't given enough attention.

Too early to give attention to and it's kinda pointless for now in my opinion. A good read here




Read the article. Saw some interesting points and I found one abit challanging:
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Users Don't Want the Extra Responsibility
It's not something that can't be solved if we want to
.


By the way, the internet mustn't have everybody on board. It could simply act as a parallel internet with its own currency/currencies and governance system to easily take care of problem quoted above... this:
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*Users Don't Want the Extra Responsibility*
A system of peer-to-peer protocols would shift the responsibility of maintenance away from the owners of the servers and on to each and every user of a decentralized internet. Which is great for “tech-savvy and politically inclined users” who know how it works and care about their privacy, as MIT pointed out in a recent report quoted in a Medium article on decentralized networks. But that's not enough for everyone.https://tech.co/news/decentralized-internet-guide-2018-02

And I think such network having its own rules and governance system wouldn't prevent the already established national governments from regulating it(decentrally). The regulations should prevent the network participants from breaking national laws/rules that intend to maintain peace, good behavior, etc

Militaries use this technology already. The same standard or security and efficiency should just be applied to citizens as well.
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