It's time for EUROPE to become SOCIALIST

[spy100]

I can see it too from what he said, telling someone that he is 'asshole' because he can afford to buy that mask, actually he didn't bought it, he approached for the workers to customized it so he basically set a price for what he wanted it to be priced. Besides, I don't think he'll be using it casually, he'll just probably keep it for the history. What's bad is the view of the OP, if he quoted it and reason because of insensitivity on that rich businessman, though we are experiencing pandemic, there are millions of people in hunger, man you know nothing about that Chinese guy who would have know he donated a lot of his wealth for the vaccine trials and production  Huh

Cry me a river ...yeah any rich guy that buys a 1.5 million  USD face mask is a asshole ... you fuckers didn't earn shit ... you just got lucky or you bribed or you got contracts via nepotism...that's how you fuckers get rich ...not by "hard work" , or a high IQ ...  so stop giving morals to us that your hard working folks ,that your  victims and crap like that ... you are not . You get rich by becoming corrupt.

If's time for the 90% to take back all we allowed you to take ... it's time for SOCIALISM.

[Charles-Tim]

I can sense truth in this but very impossible for socialism, how about combining socialism with capitalism. Mixed economy has been the best, and it is being practiced in European and North American countries. For the goverment to carry all the whole burden can not do the economy good in this time of 21st century.

Normally, the world can not be balanced, there are shits, a world that favour the rich, and are getting richer but not favouring the poor, and the poor becoming poorer. More insight into this, individuals may not be blamed but the governments which are affecting the well circulation of wealths.

Also, many people in the world now, instead helping people, they are more for fame, that is why someone can buy a cap as expensive as that.

[DoubleAweSeven]

Stop being jealous man. Why do you care that he bought something like that? He has probably contributed more to the society than you could ever do in your whole life. He used his brain to get those money. He worked harder than you did.

According to your quote which for some reason can't be linked to the original poster, there's nothing wrong with it and in fact, he actually helped workers get job, distributed fiat currency, and made jealous people like you rage. lol

[squatz1]

I'm not sure you understand that the only way for socialism programs to be present in a country is through a large amount of tax revenue, which would mean you'd rely on businesses, rich people, middle class, and poor people to provide the proper revenue for these programs.

That's disregarding for a moment that most European nations are socialist. Not sure what exactly here you're fighting for, but I see that you don't really understand how hard it is to become rich.

Jeff Bezos isn't some guy who was rich  (see link)and even if he was -- he's turned it into 130B worth of assets. Not sure what you're fighting for here.

[Jet Cash]

What do you mean by Europe? Russia and Great Britain are European countries, but they are not members of the EU.

Is that mask any worse than pharma and banking billionaires paying over $1 billion for a yacht. Especially as the money is made from debt slavery, or selling over priced poisons through the medical services.

[tvbcof]

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That's disregarding for a moment that most European nations are socialist. Not sure what exactly here you're fighting for, but I see that you don't really understand how hard it is to become rich.
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It's difficult to have a daughter-of-federal-reserve-banker mother who is in the same 'fraternal organization' as the president of IBM and who can ask said president to buy your son's operating system and bundle it with their new 8088-based personal computer platform.  Especially if said son doesn't actually have an OS to sell.  If one achieves that, one still has to come up with an operating system.  Just have to come up with $80k to buy 'Quick-n-Dirty OS', itself a knock-off of Gary Kindell's CP/M, from the computer shop down the street.  And re-name it something like MSDOS.

As far as I can see Gates was coddled and bailed out of his own stupid mistakes (e.g., Microsoft's reaction to 'the internent') numerous times and had a lot of help at various junctures in order to 'become rich'.  He also seems to be of 'pure-breed stock' so to speak.  It's possible that these two things are related.  Indeed, it seems unlikely that they are not.

Actually a fair number of today's ultra-wealthy seem to have a similar lineage profile when one digs down into it.

[franky1]

Is that mask any worse than pharma and banking billionaires paying over $1 billion for a yacht. Especially as the money is made from debt slavery, or selling over priced poisons through the medical services.

in europe people dont buy medical treatment. people get it through the NHS for FREE

i know your stupidly reading american conspiracy scripts. especially when you use the american currency.
but try to have an independant thought about the realities of actual UK

your starting to get too obvious your thoughts are coming from fiction sites not factual sites


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anyway
yes eurupe has strong ties to the capitalist tax havens where by most of the tax income into treasury is from the working classes not the uber rich.

however socialism is not just about who pays in.. but also what the funds are used for
if europe took away the military offense(invading other countries) and only funded military defense(within its borders)
that would free up alot of funds
if europe stopped supporting other continents 'relief donations' and instead kept the money for its on citizens then the lifestyle of its citizens would increase

yes using tax money to fund raising the living standards of the working class and not funding R&D grants for 'for profit' corporations would help
but thinking that europes healthcare systems are 'for profit' where people have to buy healthcare with their credit card.. just shows you have not got out the house and seen the real world in the UK where you live. and instead just taking some american conspiracy script as your reality

[Poker Player]

-snip-
it's time for SOCIALISM.

I'm not surprised you want other people's money as you're broke:

Here is how 2020 went for me : 

January ... lost my tooth went to dentist ,she should have fix it ,payed money still didn't heard from her not even now
February... pandemic started
March ... lost my job
April ... Girlfriend dumped me for good do to fact i am poor  and she was only interested in money
May - June ... Lost all my savings at the casinos after lockdown do to fact i entered a depression

It must be a dream ,it's not real ! nothing makes sense anymore ...

F money ,F power ,F fame ,F all materialistic stuff ... i am going back to read the Holy Book as i did something wrong ... and i don't understand what i did ...

I bet if you had a lot of money you wouldn't be saying the same.

I'm sorry for you man, but socialist societies are not those paradises that those who defend them imagine. When some sort of socialism works it is because it is mixed with a certain degree of freedom in the economy, so there  is a competitive private sector and also some redistribution of wealth to the disadvantaged. But most of this redistribution goes from the middle class to the poor class and not from "the rich" to the poor class, as is often sold.

[Salauddin1994]

It's hard to get rich these days but socialism is usually for the rich. Therefore we work hard to eliminate all these we will be free from corruption and socialism in Europe will be eliminated. Socialist ownership of the means of production is its economic basis. Socialism overthrows private ownership and eliminates human exploitation economic crisis and unemployment opening up the desert for the planned development of the productive forces and the full development of relations of production. The aim of social production during the period of socialism was to increase the prosperity of the people and to bring about the overall development of every member of the society.

[franky1]

economics

socialism :- treasury money given to the average
capitalism:-treasury money given to the elite
authoritarianism:- treasury money spent on the rich political leaders
libertarianism:- survival of the fittest no help from treasury no input into treasury you keep what you earn

[spy100]

-snip-
it's time for SOCIALISM.

I'm not surprised you want other people's money as you're broke:

Here is how 2020 went for me :  

January ... lost my tooth went to dentist ,she should have fix it ,payed money still didn't heard from her not even now
February... pandemic started
March ... lost my job
April ... Girlfriend dumped me for good do to fact i am poor  and she was only interested in money
May - June ... Lost all my savings at the casinos after lockdown do to fact i entered a depression

It must be a dream ,it's not real ! nothing makes sense anymore ...

F money ,F power ,F fame ,F all materialistic stuff ... i am going back to read the Holy Book as i did something wrong ... and i don't understand what i did ...

I bet if you had a lot of money you wouldn't be saying the same.

I'm sorry for you man, but socialist societies are not those paradises that those who defend them imagine. When some sort of socialism works it is because it is mixed with a certain degree of freedom in the economy, so there  is a competitive private sector and also some redistribution of wealth to the disadvantaged. But most of this redistribution goes from the middle class to the poor class and not from "the rich" to the poor class, as is often sold.

When the game is rigged it's time to change the game so yeah no matter what my past is , my Political views stays the same ...
How poisoned modern society with the "Great  American  Dream" ... ?
It's time to say to the so called American Dream go f..uk your self  back to America and your Hollywood h,...s Europe does not need you ..we can build our own nukes to protect our self..
Like communism the "american dream" is just stupid propaganda ...

 

  

[franky1]

great american dream is the illusion

because you cant get your dream unless your asleep in bed


maybe the 'great american life' should be the slogan. atleast thats more attainable and actually based in real physical life and not imagination/hopes/memory/thought

when people talk aboutdreams and hopes they are not talking about plans and projects
this is why even 57 years on MLK's dream is still not fully reality
because its been 57 years of dreamers

hopes and dreams should be plans and actions
but if people started talking about plans instead of hopes it would upset the elitists, so the elitists want people to only have hopes and dreams.


its like democracy
saying people deserve the right to vote. is like saying people deserve the right to choose their slave owner
no where does it say people deserve the right to control

elistists dont want competition. they dont want people controlling who the leaders are. they want people to vote in middlemen and have the middlemen choose the elitests
where the middle men only get voted in if they have well funded campaigns to get noticed enough to be voted in

MP's are not the elitist but they get paid by elitists so while they pass on sugestiions of peoples dreams they are not the actual power to action those dreams. that comes from the higher up tier

[Mauser]

great american dream is the illusion

because you cant get your dream unless your asleep in bed


maybe the 'great american life' should be the slogan. atleast thats more attainable and actually based in real physical life and not imagination/hopes/memory/thought

when people talk aboutdreams and hopes they are not talking about plans and projects
this is why even 57 years on MLK's dream is still not fully reality
because its been 57 years of dreamers

hopes and dreams should be plans and actions
but if people started talking about plans instead of hopes it would upset the elitists, so the elitists want people to only have hopes and dreams.


its like democracy
saying people deserve the right to vote. is like saying people deserve the right to choose their slave owner
no where does it say people deserve the right to control

elistists dont want competition. they dont want people controlling who the leaders are. they want people to vote in middlemen and have the middlemen choose the elitests
where the middle men only get voted in if they have well funded campaigns to get noticed enough to be voted in

MP's are not the elitist but they get paid by elitists so while they pass on sugestiions of peoples dreams they are not the actual power to action those dreams. that comes from the higher up tier

The elite was always around, in any form of government. If you look at communism, socialism, capitslism, they all have a wealthy group controlling everything. In my opinion it's all the same in the end. In USA we have corporate billionaires, in russia we have the oligarch and in China we have the communist party. In the end it's just people who hold the power and want to stay in power. It's the same ideas behind everything, controlling the average joe and keep him busy with his little problems while the few elitist keep getting richer.

[IIV]

Though they don't use that word, most of the European nations are socialist for quite a time now. The concept of socialism were founded and nurtured in Europe.
Some European would win over China if there were any rankings for socialist nations.

[aiguy]

We can't say about all European countries, but about the united kingdom is on the path on socialism because the British government-owned the largest manufacturing in such industries as autos and steel. Much of the housing is government-owned. And they also work in a good education for their citizens.

[aiguy]

I live in the Netherlands, and I believe this country is also socialist. Taking tax from everybody but also giving back to the people, free education for children, and regulated salaries for employee.

Yes its also considered as a socialist because they are also serving for their nation and working to be a great Netherland.

[Jet Cash]

Much of the housing is government-owned.

Actually it isn't. The arch-Oxford globalist, Margaret Thatcher and successors gave it to housing associations, and they are morphing into property development companies. She also gave a lot of out national assets to the City of London bankers.

[casperBGD]

Though they don't use that word, most of the European nations are socialist for quite a time now. The concept of socialism were founded and nurtured in Europe.
Some European would win over China if there were any rankings for socialist nations.

you should not mix socialism and communism, China is hardly having socialism, which is perfectly nurtured in Scandinavian countries, where state is providing socially responsible actions and freedom
China is an example of mixed communism and capitalism, where is normal to work 50+ hours a week, which Scandinavians are trying to reduce their week to 30 hours, a real progress in life conditions

and most of Europe is near to socialism, where social-democratic parties are in the lead, expect some Eastern European countries, where social-nationalist parties are in the lead

[Cnut237]

Much of the housing is government-owned.

Actually it isn't. The arch-Oxford globalist, Margaret Thatcher and successors gave it to housing associations, and they are morphing into property development companies. She also gave a lot of out national assets to the City of London bankers.

I do agree with you about how it's a bad thing that the UK is run by the Eton/Oxbridge elite, and how they are entitled to run the country not on merit, not on talent, but on happening to be born to wealthy parents from 'elite' establishment families. This is a huge problem (and I think largely because we didn't have a 'French-style' revolution).

But we seem to have differing opinions on the EU. It's not perfect, but I see it as a restraining mechanism that acts to thwart some of the worst ambitions of the Eton/Oxbridge set. The Tories who are most rabidly fervent about leaving are the ultra-right who are desperate to free themselves from EU oversight so that they can dismantle workers' (and human) rights, and further entrench their own privileges. Leaving the EU delivers us even further into their grasp than we are already.

[Spendulus]

Much of the housing is government-owned.

Actually it isn't. The arch-Oxford globalist, Margaret Thatcher and successors gave it ....gave a lot of out ....

very charitable, wasn't she?

except for giving away what wasn't hers...