Bitcoin Forum now hosting the Bitcoin Wiki

[5thStreetResearch]

good news, the wiki is a solid resource

[TitanBTC]

Unexpected thread turn.

Lol damn I remember this is some old crazy shit https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin

Luke does version numbers in tonal, too. It has caused some surprises... Great, queer guy - does a lot of good work.

Smart people usually have mental illness.  See flappy bird, autistic savants, etc.

Wonder why bfg doesnt have tonal version numbers

I love that you mentioned "Flappy Bird" as the first and most prominent example of troubled genius.

[bitpop]

Some chain smoke like myself and Flappy bird, we have that in common.

[Eri]

task one. remove Luke-Jr's editing privileges. he has done more damage then support of facts on the bitcoin wiki over the years.

Funny you should say that... i remember reading a few things in it that didnt belong and reeked of someones personal motives. Tried to fix it but not interested in paying to fix some turds graffiti.

Paying wouldn't help. Luke doesn't allow you to fix his graffiti. He doesn't even allow discussion of his junk on the discussion pages.

See this edit for example in which he deletes a perfectly reasonable comment from Gavin, or this ugliness which he won't allow anyone to fix. We need a simple page explaining the units. It absolutely doesn't need to talk about silly base 16 units that aren't supported and that nobody uses. Check that page's history to see how many times people have tried to fix it only to have Luke revert their fix.

Maybe we just need a new wiki where hes banned from the start. Id be ok with gavin as a admin, i couldnt imagine him doing stuff like this.

[bitpop]

Luke might be crazy but he is a mad genius

[irrational]

Luke might be crazy but he is a mad genius

fixed that for ya

Back on topic...

What's this I read about needing to PAY to having editing privileges on the wiki?

[bitpop]

Luke might be crazy but he is a mad genius

fixed that for ya

Back on topic...

What's this I read about needing to PAY to having editing privileges on the wiki?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Special:CryptoPayment

I was trying to add 4 super nodes I run but hit a snag

[halfawake]

Luke might be crazy but he is a mad genius

fixed that for ya

Back on topic...

What's this I read about needing to PAY to having editing privileges on the wiki?

It's true.  It's asking me to pay 0.001 bitcoins to edit the wiki, or roughly $0.57.  I'd personally prefer to see the same system the Bitcointalk forums used to have, where you just have to have your account active for 3 hours or something before you can edit.  (Or go out of the Newbie forum, as it was here.)

Oddly, I just noticed the page upped the price to 0.003 bitcoins, which is kind of lame.

[nanotube]

It's true.  It's asking me to pay 0.001 bitcoins to edit the wiki, or roughly $0.57.  I'd personally prefer to see the same system the Bitcointalk forums used to have, where you just have to have your account active for 3 hours or something before you can edit.  (Or go out of the Newbie forum, as it was here.)

Oddly, I just noticed the page upped the price to 0.003 bitcoins, which is kind of lame.

it's an antispam measure, and a pretty effective one at that. so... blame the spammers. the inconsistency in the payment amount is just something we have to fix. it is 0.001 BTC presently, i think (will verify and get back to you).

if you really can't afford 50 cents to prove you're not a spammer, feel free to post a request on the wiki subforum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=168.0, with the following info:
- nature of your request ('i want edit rights')
- your wiki account username
- the languages you want to edit (the language wikis each has separate group rights - we hope to fix this soon)

You'll then be granted edit privileges as soon as one of the admins notices your request and finds the time to act on it.

[franky1]

the price to 0.003 bitcoins, which is kind of lame.

it's an antispam measure,

$1.68 wont stop luke Jr editing out comments which were factually true, but didnt meet with his opinions (eg: litecoin, which he hates)

[halfawake]

It's true.  It's asking me to pay 0.001 bitcoins to edit the wiki, or roughly $0.57.  I'd personally prefer to see the same system the Bitcointalk forums used to have, where you just have to have your account active for 3 hours or something before you can edit.  (Or go out of the Newbie forum, as it was here.)

Oddly, I just noticed the page upped the price to 0.003 bitcoins, which is kind of lame.

it's an antispam measure, and a pretty effective one at that. so... blame the spammers. the inconsistency in the payment amount is just something we have to fix. it is 0.001 BTC presently, i think (will verify and get back to you).

if you really can't afford 50 cents to prove you're not a spammer, feel free to post a request on the wiki subforum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=168.0, with the following info:
- nature of your request ('i want edit rights')
- your wiki account username
- the languages you want to edit (the language wikis each has separate group rights - we hope to fix this soon)

You'll then be granted edit privileges as soon as one of the admins notices your request and finds the time to act on it.

I can afford it, I just thought it was a bit ridiculous that it told me that the price tripled while I was waiting on that page.  

Edit: I'm also wondering if there's any point in bothering, given all these comments about a Luke Jr guy editing out comments he doesn't like.  That's actually one reason I prefer an open wiki system like wikipedia, given a large enough community, biases get edited out pretty quickly.  I would hope that the bitcoin community is large enough that this would be the case, but probably not with the paying to edit requirement, as most people won't bother.

[bg002h]

Strong work theymos.

Do you have control of the domain? There are many back links that would break if the domain goes away...getting a dozen mirrors up or migrating the site doesn't fix the back link issue.

At any rate, I'm glad you stood up and took on the task. We need doers here and I'm glad to be a supporter.

[Eri]

the price to 0.003 bitcoins, which is kind of lame.

it's an antispam measure,

$1.68 wont stop luke Jr editing out comments which were factually true, but didnt meet with his opinions (eg: litecoin, which he hates)

Cant say im a fan of many altcoins and never saw the point of litecoin. Not sure any of it belongs on the bitcoin wiki, though maybe one page for the unique features of altcoins would make sense. Namecoin being one which is entirely unique and well deserves a page of its own.

[eldentyrell]

task one. remove Luke-Jr's editing privileges. he has done more damage then support of facts on the bitcoin wiki over the years.

I could not disagree more strongly.

After numerous attempts to contact the other wiki administrators, none of whom responded over the course of four weeks, Luke-Jr stepped up and did an exceptionally even-handed job resolving an edit dispute on the ICBIT page.  The dispute was between the ICBIT operators on the one hand and two people (one of which was me (*)) on the other over their (IMHO false) claims that their users were not exposed to counterparty risk.  

Here is Luke-Jr's resolution of the drawn-out and increasingly ugly conflict, which both ICBIT and myself were satisfied with.  Nanotube later tweaked Luke's resolution a bit.

Go ahead, read the history and the talk page.  Luke did an equitable and careful job resolving the dispute, and that's the most important qualification for that position.  I was very impressed and would not hesitate to recommend him as an arbiter of disputes.

  - e

(*) For the record I have never had an account with ICBIT or been involved in any business with them; it's not personal.

[theymos]

Strong work theymos.

Do you have control of the domain? There are many back links that would break if the domain goes away...getting a dozen mirrors up or migrating the site doesn't fix the back link issue.

At any rate, I'm glad you stood up and took on the task. We need doers here and I'm glad to be a supporter.

Thanks. Most of the technical work was done by others. I do control the domain (via a trustee service -- you need to be in the EU to be the registrant of a .it domain).

[shads]

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/API_reference_%28JSON-RPC%29

appears to have turned Chinese.

[Luke-Jr]

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/API_reference_%28JSON-RPC%29

appears to have turned Chinese.

Looks fine for me, maybe a temporary glitch?

[malevolent]

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/API_reference_%28JSON-RPC%29

appears to have turned Chinese.

Same here. Google cached version looks OK.

[bitpop]

Yup Chinese. Huawei attacked us. Nsa was right

[Luke-Jr]

Edit: I'm also wondering if there's any point in bothering, given all these comments about a Luke Jr guy editing out comments he doesn't like.

Ignore the trolls. I only edit out false claims and vandalism.
As long as you stick to facts and opinions, and don't try to censor other facts or opinions, your edits are welcome
But the 0.001 BTC thing is just antispam. Post your username and someone can whitelist you directly.