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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
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She won't have many opportunities to as VP, other than breaking Senate ties she really won't have much tangible power. Although the progressives would be satisfied if she performs well in the VP debate I suppose.
If Biden wins and the Dems hold the house and flip the senate there will probably be plenty of times the progressives complain about the more moderate administrations policies. Any dem drama will seem really tame though.
In response to the inevitable "Biden has 1 foot in the grave and can't even tie his shoes, he'll be removed from office or dead by Spring!" post:
Biden and Kamala are pretty close on most things so I don't think Kamala taking over would change much policy-wise.
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Biden and Kamala are pretty close on most things so I don't think Kamala taking over would change much policy-wise.
They disagree on healthcare which is major. Kamala Harris wanted to phase out private insurance over a 10 year period and give medicare for all. But I wouldn't hold it to her because she was pandering to the progressives during the primaries. She'll change her policy stances based on whatever will get her elected whether it's advocating for a ban on fracking, medicare for all, decriminalizing border crossing, or banning plastic straws. Does anyone actually think Kamala Harris will be a champion for progressives?
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Biden and Kamala are pretty close on most things so I don't think Kamala taking over would change much policy-wise.
They disagree on healthcare which is major. Kamala Harris wanted to phase out private insurance over a 10 year period and give medicare for all. But I wouldn't hold it to her because she was pandering to the progressives during the primaries. She'll change her policy stances based on whatever will get her elected whether it's advocating for a ban on fracking, medicare for all, decriminalizing border crossing, or banning plastic straws. Does anyone actually think Kamala Harris will be a champion for progressives? The most far left senator is Kamala Harris. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senateBut nothing would satisfy the progressive bitchy bitches.
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Even though the below might not sit well with our sense of justice, it's possible that she couldn't have done it any other way, and that her talk regarding her decisions might be a coverup for what really was going on. What do I mean? Here's what.
The Catholic church in America is a Corporation Sole. It predates the US by over 100 years, being well over 400 years old. When it is considered that the 9th Amendment to the Constitution (9th Article to the Bill of Rights) essentially means that we have all the rights that we did before the US came into existence, a Corporation Sole that predates the US Constitution probably has rights way superior to the US Constitution.
Regarding KH, as a person acting the part of a governmental position (attorneys are part of the courts), she had no right to attack what was essentially a foreign government that the US operates within... even if such operating is autonomous. However, if this is the case, she and all the rest of government are keeping us in the dark regarding this whole Corp. Sole thing.
So, think as you read the article. Btw, go to the site which has links and formatting that emphasize the reading of the article properly.
Kamala Harris covered up sex abuse crimes of priests, buried recordsAfter announcing her as his running mate, Joe Biden gushed about how Kamala Harris is supposedly a "fearless fighter for the little guy, and one of the country's finest public servants." But how can this be true when Kamala was a quintessential bad cop during her tenure as San Francisco's chief prosecutor?
In his book Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite, Peter Schweizer explains how Kamala failed to prosecute even one case of child sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests, despite having numerous cases thrown her way.
During the 13 years that Kamala was a district attorney, and later attorney general, she systematically covered for the big guys while betraying the little guys – though you are unlikely to hear about any of this from the mainstream media, which is worshiping Kamala almost to the degree that it worshiped Barack Obama.
While at least 50 other major cities at that time were busy prosecuting pedophile priests for molesting and raping young boys, Kamala "would strangely hide vital records on abuses that had occurred," Schweizer contends. Kamala also retaliated against a district attorney who tried to do the job that she refused to do, almost as if she herself was secretly guilty.
"The bombshell details show that while Harris's predecessor, former San Francisco District Attorney Terence Hallinan, had launched an aggressive investigation into priests of the Archdiocese of San Francisco accused of sexual abuse, Harris's campaign to unseat Hallinan showed an unusual influx of unparalleled donations from high-level officials of the Catholic Church," writes Dr. Susan Berry for Breitbart News.
By the way, more news about corrupt Kamala is available at KamalaHarris.news.
Kamala Harris is complicit in allowing innocent children to be sexually victimized by Roman Catholic priests
The very same woman who now wants to control the amount of red meat that Americans are allowed to eat was nowhere to be found in pursuing actual justice against heinous child sex abusers who were taking advantage of innocent children within the confines of religion, which is about as heinous as it gets.
"Harris had no particular ties to the Catholic Church or Catholic organizations, but the money still came in large, unprecedented sums," Schweizer writes, noting that Kamala maintained deep financial ties to the religious child sex abusers she sought to protect.
Over the course of many years, various Roman Catholic organizations and individuals trying to protect the reputation of their religion amid compiling evidence of pedophilia among its leadership essentially paid off Kamala to keep these crimes under wraps – and it worked marvelously.
"Though Harris has touted her early career as a sexual crimes prosecutor, after she won her run-off campaign against Hallinan, her office actually worked to cover up the records of claims of sexual abuse by priests of the San Francisco archdiocese," Dr. Berry further notes.
Kamala's office claimed at the time that it did this to protect the child victims of sex abuse at the hands of Catholic leadership. But how does burying vital records and refusing to prosecute criminals in any way amount to protection? The only people protected were Kamala's donors, which just goes to show the type of person she actually is, despite all the praise and worship from the mainstream media.
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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
I have a third question, which I think is the most important. Can she ride Hillary's broomstick without falling off, like Hillary did?
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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
I have a third question, which I think is the most important. Can she ride Hillary's broomstick without falling off, like Hillary did? Depends on how hard Putin pushes her. I don't think he has a personal vendetta against Kamala like he did with Hillary, so maybe he won't push so hard.
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I feel Biden took this decision because black people are really in much hate with the Trump's government and since she is a black origin he though it would bring more support from the black people and also this decision really hyped their party in the recent days which might be effective since the election period is getting nearer.
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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
I have a third question, which I think is the most important. Can she ride Hillary's broomstick without falling off, like Hillary did? As long as it flies, she can always hang onto the underside.
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I feel Biden took this decision because black people are really in much hate with the Trump's government and since she is a black origin he though it would bring more support from the black people and also this decision really hyped their party in the recent days which might be effective since the election period is getting nearer.
Black Christians love Trump.
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August 15, 2020, 12:45:50 AM Last edit: August 15, 2020, 01:35:04 AM by Spendulus |
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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
There has been a continual drumbeat to whip up hatred of each and every Republican president for decades. This has gotten considerably worse with the nonstop lying and fake conspiracies of Trump term 1 of 2. I think there is no such thing here as "progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2o16 by not voting for Clinton." First, all engaging in the D are defined as progressives. Second, they'd rather stay home with a couple joints of the good stuff rather than go out to vote for Broomstick Hillary, now they have a similar issue with Bejing Biden. I guarantee you their coasting along mellow on voting night is better than voting for two loser bitches.
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August 17, 2020, 12:50:38 AM |
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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
There has been a continual drumbeat to whip up hatred of each and every Republican president for decades. This has gotten considerably worse with the nonstop lying and fake conspiracies of Trump term 1 of 2. I think there is no such thing here as "progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2o16 by not voting for Clinton." First, all engaging in the D are defined as progressives. Second, they'd rather stay home with a couple joints of the good stuff rather than go out to vote for Broomstick Hillary, now they have a similar issue with Bejing Biden. I guarantee you their coasting along mellow on voting night is better than voting for two loser bitches. You're totally right when it comes to hating every Republican President for the past 20 years (even though the last 20 years is only like, 2 GOP Presidents). I think this sort of thought is common though as we've gotten much more hyperpartisan. It can totally be debated in regards to the mainstream media and what they're saying about the President. But ya know Fox is going to love the GOP while every other major news outlet (CNN, MSNBC, ETC) are going to like the DNC candidate. This'll be one of the first races where we'll see if all of the crazy social media outreach will actually do anything. It hasn't worked yet, but this could be the one that changes that. Wouldn't be surprised of the youth just doesn't go out and vote again though.
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Biden has moved far to the left, and the DNC picking Harris for Biden makes the Democratic ticket the most radical ticket of a major party ever. The DNC is trying to hide how far the ticket is by trying to hide the most outspoken radicals; see how AOC is only getting a minute of speaking time for example.
She should easily get the progressive vote. The question is if Biden/Harris will turn off the moderate wing of the Democratic party. The DNC propaganda machine is trying hard to paint her as a moderate so to not turn off moderate democrats and independents.
I think Sanders has really screwed the Democrats, now two election cycles in a row. If it were not for Sanders, the DNC could have picked someone more moderate to be Biden's VP pick.
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.... I think Sanders has really screwed the Democrats, now two election cycles in a row. If it were not for Sanders, the DNC could have picked someone more moderate to be Biden's VP pick.
Sanders and certain big money international forces. This and the last election were and are interesting for one simple reason. The Democrats won with Bill Clinton and Obama because of personal magnetism and charisma. Hillary had none of that. Biden has zero. Harris has zero.
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Biden has moved far to the left, and the DNC picking Harris for Biden makes the Democratic ticket the most radical ticket of a major party ever. The DNC is trying to hide how far the ticket is by trying to hide the most outspoken radicals; see how AOC is only getting a minute of speaking time for example.
She should easily get the progressive vote. The question is if Biden/Harris will turn off the moderate wing of the Democratic party. The DNC propaganda machine is trying hard to paint her as a moderate so to not turn off moderate democrats and independents.
I think Sanders has really screwed the Democrats, now two election cycles in a row. If it were not for Sanders, the DNC could have picked someone more moderate to be Biden's VP pick.
This is all being spread in an effort to help Trump get elected. It's not based in reality. The AOC DNC thing I hadn't heard about - boy is it a stretch: Next week they will play a pre recorded 60 second message from AOC during the virtual DNC. We don't know how long other people are speaking or the structure of the event, but somehow it has morphed into "The DNC is hiding how extreme it is by only giving AOC 60 seconds".
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August 17, 2020, 04:15:55 AM |
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This and the last election were and are interesting for one simple reason. The Democrats won with Bill Clinton and Obama because of personal magnetism and charisma.
Hillary had none of that.
Biden has zero.
Harris has zero.
I would have to agree with this. During the long primary season, Democrats seemed hell bent on nominating an extremist. I would describe pretty much all of those who made it to the first primary as unelectable.
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August 17, 2020, 05:49:10 AM |
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Ever since Biden picked Harris to be his VP candidate for the Democrat ticket, there's been two questions in the back of my mind:
Will Kamala satisfy the progressives of the party? Will a Biden/Harris ticket bring out the progressives of the party?
I think yes. I think that the progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2016 by not voting for Clinton. They may have not liked her, but they HATE TRUMP. They may not like Biden and Harris but the progressives of the party HATE TRUMP.
I personally think she won't satisfy the progressives, neither will Biden, but they will swallow their pride and accept them cause they're not Trump.
Any thoughts?
There has been a continual drumbeat to whip up hatred of each and every Republican president for decades. This has gotten considerably worse with the nonstop lying and fake conspiracies of Trump term 1 of 2. I think there is no such thing here as "progressives of the party learned their mistake in 2o16 by not voting for Clinton." First, all engaging in the D are defined as progressives. Second, they'd rather stay home with a couple joints of the good stuff rather than go out to vote for Broomstick Hillary, now they have a similar issue with Bejing Biden. I guarantee you their coasting along mellow on voting night is better than voting for two loser bitches. You're totally right when it comes to hating every Republican President for the past 20 years (even though the last 20 years is only like, 2 GOP Presidents). I think this sort of thought is common though as we've gotten much more hyperpartisan. It can totally be debated in regards to the mainstream media and what they're saying about the President. But ya know Fox is going to love the GOP while every other major news outlet (CNN, MSNBC, ETC) are going to like the DNC candidate. This'll be one of the first races where we'll see if all of the crazy social media outreach will actually do anything. It hasn't worked yet, but this could be the one that changes that. Wouldn't be surprised of the youth just doesn't go out and vote again though. @squatz1 it’s too early to comment on this because we don’t really know how Kamala will fit in, and I also feel that at some stage they may end up bickering among themselves which will further divide their party. Lastly the only thing that I can say with absolute certainty is that she’s been selected just to secure the Indian voters who’re living in US now, otherwise why would Biden select a person who had attacked him during the primaries elections. Sources: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Why-Kamala-Harris-was-picked-as-Joe-Biden-s-15476165.phphttps://www.wsj.com/articles/with-kamala-harris-on-the-ballot-indian-americans-predict-higher-turnout-11597336615https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-asian-american-women-vote-biden/
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seems politics has just gone to the simple thing of. if they have an old white man on one seat they need a young coloured women sat beside them to then cover all categories
men wont vote a women into power due to sexism but having a women on the VP chair would be acceptable then young people wont vote for an old guy, but if that oldguy has the ear of a younger person. acceptable then coloured people wont vote for a white guy. and with no coloured people wanting the top seat then the only option is to go with the one with a coloured person sat beside the white guy
women will prefer to vote for a president that wil listen to women. so they will vote that way
pretty much the biden/harris ticks all the demographic boxes
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.... pretty much the biden/harris ticks all the demographic boxes
I'm certainly glad we got all the proper boxes checked. I had been unable to sleep at night, worrying about those boxes, some of the without a checkmark.
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