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August 19, 2020, 12:55:49 PM
Last edit: March 18, 2021, 12:21:47 AM by anonymixer
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Introducing Anonymixer
The Anonymous Bitcoin Mixer

Clearnet URL: https://anonymixer.com
Onion V2 URL: http://anonymixerpolbpy.onion
Onion V3 URL: http://btcmixer2e3pkn64eb5m65un5nypat4mje27er4ymltzshkmujmxlmyd.onion

We would like to humbly offer the services of a new Bitcoin Mixer, which we believe provides Bitcoin Users with fantastic anonymity.

Key Features:

  • Minimum Mix: 1 satoshi or 0.00000001 BTC
  • Mixer Fee ranges between 1 to 2%
  • Digitally Signed Letters of Guarantee in both Text and PDF formats
  • Works with or without JavaScript
  • Up to 20 Unique Output Addresses
  • Up to 10 Unique Deposit Addresses
  • 100% No Logs Policy
  • 100% Native SegWit support

Output Addresses get exactly the amount of Bitcoin that you expect them to get, exactly when you want them to get it.

We offer users the ability to not only "Jump the Transaction Graph", where Outputs from the Mixer are entirely disconnected from the Deposits in terms of no direct-lineage being found in Bitcoin explorers, but also "Time and Amount De-correlation".

By this, we mean for instance a User could send 0.3 BTC to Mixer Address #A followed by 0.2 BTC to Mixer Address #B. Once confirmed, the Mixer later sends 0.5 BTC to User's Output Address #C, from another part of the Blockchain, entirely disconnected from the user's initial Deposits.

Or, the user could send the Mixer 0.5 BTC in one Transaction, where the Mixer later sends the 0.3 BTC to the user's Output Address #A (after 20 minutes) and 0.2 BTC to Output Address #B (after 40 minutes), again entirely disconnected from the user's Deposits.

When we say "entirely disconnected", we take cluster analysis into consideration and where the deposits go and outputs come from are entirely separate entities (or wallets) as far as Blockchain Surveillance companies are concerned.

We would also like to offer Wasabi CoinJoin users who may be struggling to CoinJoin "small change outputs" a solution to mix and consolidate these coins, please see:

https://anonymixer.com/help/wasabi-change-coins

Future Development Plans:

  • Integration with the Lightning Network, providing Submarine Swap Mixes
  • Sending Outputs, immediately upon receiving Deposits, without even 1 Confirmation
  • Much more, this is the initial launch and we will continue to develop!

We apologise in advance for the lack of bells and whistles on the front-page and any bugs you may find, we will fix any bugs you find and we will ALWAYS honour the Letters Of Guarantee we provide!

We hope to see you soon and we look forward to your business.

Kind Regards,

Anonymixer

Clearnet URL: https://anonymixer.com
Onion V2 URL: http://anonymixerpolbpy.onion
Onion V3 URL: http://btcmixer2e3pkn64eb5m65un5nypat4mje27er4ymltzshkmujmxlmyd.onion
BTC Bitcoin Address: 1AnonyMix35XkzRusC7FAzwi9KKggnyg5b
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Minimum Mix: 1 satoshi or 0.00000001 BTC
Is the minimum mix really 1 satoshi?  Can not move 1 satoshi (as a fund) on bitcoin network because it is less than transaction fee. Did I not understand it?
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How does the service get mixer fee (1 - 2%) from 1 satoshi?

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August 20, 2020, 01:29:00 PM
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We apologise in advance for the lack of bells and whistles on the front-page
--snip--

I actually see this as something positive Smiley

Finally, a new mixer that doesn't include a MITM by opting to use cloudflare's CDN. You wouldn't believe how many times i had a discussion with mixer owners that found it to difficult to use certbot...

I'm happy with the mixing methods i'm currently using so i probably won't try out your mixer any time soon, but if i wasn't happy with my current sollutions, i'd actually try this one out.

ps: this is not an endorsement. I haven't tried this mixer. The only thing i'm saying is that at least this mixer didn't fall for the most obvious pitfalls, which is already a big plus.

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August 20, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
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I was waiting for your input and good to hear some positive input from you. I left 5 merit for them just to welcome them in the community. We need more community based mixers.

I am watching this thread to see how well they do from now on. Good luck anonymixer.

PS: My post is based on mocacinno's short input so yes I am not endorsing anyone yet unless they build up a level of good trading history.

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August 20, 2020, 05:49:17 PM
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A big fan of the limits shown for both hot/cold trades [nice touch] + 20 output/deposit addys.

  • Mixer Fee ranges between 1 to 2%
Just to be clear, you meant it's not based on anything [completely random]. Am I right?

I'm not a regular user when it comes to using mixing services but based on what I've read/seen so far, I have a good feeling about this one [not vouching as well].





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August 20, 2020, 09:37:47 PM
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Thank you OcTradism, mocacinno, Royse777 and SFR10 for your warm welcome and your questions.



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Minimum Mix: 1 satoshi or 0.00000001 BTC
Is the minimum mix really 1 satoshi?  Can not move 1 satoshi (as a fund) on bitcoin network because it is less than transaction fee. Did I not understand it?
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Mixer Fee ranges between 1 to 2%
How does the service get mixer fee (1 - 2%) from 1 satoshi?

The minimum mix really is 1 satoshi, but the user pays the Outgoing Transaction Fees which are based on how the mempool is currently doing, right now.

We don't charge a fee for 1 satoshi. We only start charging a Mixer fee once 1-2% of the user's outputs makes at least 1 satoshi. So if the Anonymixer fee was 1%, we'd only charge 1 satoshi when the user was trying to mix 100 satoshis or more.

The calculation of how much you would need to send the mixer to perform a trade is as follows:

Code:
Sum of All Outputs    +
Bitcoin Network Fees  +
Anonymixer Fee
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Grand Total Amount (The Amount you need to send the Mixer)

So let's say you were trying to mix 0.1 BTC and Anonymixer's fee was currently 1.5%, and tx fees at the moment were around 0.00008 BTC, it would look like this:

Code:
0.1 BTC      +
0.00008 BTC  +
0.0015 BTC
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0.10158



mocacinno

Thank you for recognizing that we don't use a CDN. I was hoping that someone would notice that and comment. Our HTTPS port has a SSL Labs Grade A rating, we do not open port 80 (HTTP), or any other port for that matter on the public facing server and we provide a V2 onion address. We can provide a V3 onion address quickly if there's demand for it.

We're definitely here for you when you feel like you want to try a new mixer.



Royse777

Thanks very much for the Merit Points!

Yes, this is a community based Mixer!

This is version 1.0, it has taken me more than a year and a half to get to this point.

Further development from this point on is based on feedback, feature requests and where the community would like this thing to go.

If you have any ideas about how you'd like a mixer to work or be, please, we are all ears.



SFR10

A big fan of the limits shown for both hot/cold trades [nice touch] + 20 output/deposit addys.

  • Mixer Fee ranges between 1 to 2%
Just to be clear, you meant it's not based on anything [completely random]. Am I right?

I'm not a regular user when it comes to using mixing services but based on what I've read/seen so far, I have a good feeling about this one [not vouching as well].

Thank you for your kind comments about the hot/cold trades and the outputs/deposits.

I originally had a concern that some people may not be awfully enamored with the fact that cold storage was being used. One point to mention is that, these limits do not reflect the total amount of Bitcoin we have. We have plenty of (wallets / clusters / entities), both hot and cold.

Just to be clear, you meant it's not based on anything [completely random]. Am I right?

The 1 to 2% fee changes over time, gradually. If you try to re-create a trade repeatedly, the fee percentage would remain the same.
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We would also like to offer Wasabi CoinJoin users who may be struggling to CoinJoin "small change outputs" a solution to mix and consolidate these coins, please see:

https://anonymixer.com/help/wasabi-change-coins

It's quite interesting feature as someone who prefer coinjoin

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Finally, a new mixer that doesn't include a MITM by opting to use cloudflare's CDN. You wouldn't believe how many times i had a discussion with mixer owners that found it to difficult to use certbot...
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Not only that, but i can't find single javascript file, javascript code or external css, which usually i can found on most mixers.

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I'm going to follow this topic too. This is the first mixer that introduces anything new in more than 3 years.

This too isn't an endorsement, but the concept is interesting. I haven't had time to test the mixer yet.

I originally had a concern that some people may not be awfully enamored with the fact that cold storage was being used. One point to mention is that, these limits do not reflect the total amount of Bitcoin we have. We have plenty of (wallets / clusters / entities), both hot and cold.
Are you willing to sign a message to prove you own (at least some) funds? If you want to keep it private, a PM is okay too. Without revealing the address, I'll confirm ownership of funds here. I've asked this for several mixers in the past, and none of them ever did it. I've also seen a few mixers (exit) scam, which makes me very careful trusting a new site.

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ETFbitcoin

It's quite interesting feature as someone who prefer coinjoin

We're really looking forward to helping CoinJoin users. No coin is too small. From what I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong), Wasabi Wallet considers UTXOs that are 5,000 satoshis or lower to be "dust" and removes them from your sight for your convenience.

20 x 5,000 satoshis is around $11.

Not only that, but i can't find single javascript file, javascript code or external css, which usually i can found on most mixers.

We don't use CDNs and never will, we will also never reference external resources.

If you include JavaScript which comes from another domain, you no longer own your website.

Not Your Javascript. Not your Website.

You don't need JavaScript enabled to use Anonymixer, but it's a nicer experience if you do.

We serve one JS file, "anonymixer.js", which is obfuscated and can not be altered in any way or be ran on an imposter domain or onion address, otherwise it will simply refuse to run.

We serve it out with a SHA-384 hash, following the W3C Subresource Integrity spec. If one byte of the JavaScript file is altered, the browser will refuse to run it.

If you're on what seems to be an Anonymixer website and the JavaScript doesn't work - then you know for sure that it's a fake website.

No raw source code of Anonymixer lives on the host / machine that serves the website to you. Every last drop is compiled, obfuscated and scrambled. Both server side code and JavaScript code.

We provide two dedicated sub-domains, which will enforce that the JavaScript is never even sent out from our service.

Clearnet: https://no-js.anonymixer.com/
Onion: http://no-js.anonymixerpolbpy.onion/



LoyceV

Sure, we can prove ownership of some addresses to you. If I message you, I'm not sure it'll turn up in your inbox because I'm a "newbie".

Do you have a PGP public key? Might be better to sort that out on e-mail.

What I'd really love is a mechanism to cryptographically prove ownership of funds and solvency across all Bitcoin addresses, whilst not actually revealing the identity of the addresses.

I currently don't know how to do that, or if it's possible, but I have a feeling it's possible and it's something I'd love to do. If you know of anywhere or anyone who may be able to point me in the right direction of doing something like that, please let me know.
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Sure, we can prove ownership of some addresses to you. If I message you, I'm not sure it'll turn up in your inbox because I'm a "newbie".
I'm not blocking Newbies from sending a PM.

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I tested it a while back, but it was quite labour intensive to work with.

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What I'd really love is a mechanism to cryptographically prove ownership of funds and solvency across all Bitcoin addresses, whilst not actually revealing the identity of the addresses.
As far as I know, this isn't possible.

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August 22, 2020, 10:07:05 AM
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I've also seen a few mixers (exit) scam, which makes me very careful trusting a new site.
Remember bitblander and some other decent reputed mixers?

Bitblander even ran a high paying signature campaign for long time in the community and suddenly they decided to stop their business and after that we have seen a lot of scam accusations against them.

There were some other mixers too who built up good reputation but eventually exited the market by scamming large amount of bitcoin. I do not know how as a community we can stop it but proving ownership of some large fund will not help of course if the owner of the mixer has some greed in mind.

PS: This is not about Anonymixer by the way. I am talking in general since Loyce brought this point already.
Looking at the response so far it is very exciting for you (Anonymixer) that your entrance in the community is exciting. I hope you will keep us happy and excited in the same way in the upcoming days and years.

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August 22, 2020, 10:23:45 AM
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I do not know how as a community we can stop it but proving ownership of some large fund will not help of course if the owner of the mixer has some greed in mind.
I've seen several mixers that claimed to own 2000+ BTC, but wouldn't prove ownership of anything. If they'd really own that much, I think they're much less likely to run away with 1% of that.

For a mixer it's very important to never lie. Any lie means they you shouldn't trust them.

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LoyceV

I tested it a while back, but it was quite labour intensive to work with.

Please give it another try. They've made it easier. It's a good world to get into. Smiley

https://www.openpgp.org/software/

If you don't like the sound of using any software, then ProtonMail provide free email accounts where you can get a PGP enabled email address by default.

Given my position, good OPSEC is paramount I'm afraid. I can understand why other Mixers may have been reluctant to share their addresses in the past. I'm going out on a limb trusting someone who I don't know as it is. What I can't do is send that kind of information in clear text on this forum in a private message where the admins of this site can also see it and where it gets stored forever in their database.

I've seen several mixers that claimed to own 2000+ BTC, but wouldn't prove ownership of anything. If they'd really own that much, I think they're much less likely to run away with 1% of that.

We can't speak for other people's situations or finances. But personally, if we had a spare 2000+ BTC lying around ($23,170,000), we probably wouldn't have spent time building a mixer in the first place.

Further, we wouldn't stick that 2000+ BTC in hot-wallets that are permanently connected to the internet, ready to send Bitcoin at the drop of a hat.

One can advertise to "mix" by simply taking BTC into a wallet, then transferring it out, minus fee, which would not fool even the simplest analysis software.

If the Mixer does other stuff behind the scenes, for instance sending your money to a Bitcoin Exchange to get alternative Coins back out, or converting to and from another crypto-currency. That's all cool, whilst the exchange doesn't freeze their account mid-mix, asking for "proof of funds" or the external service they rely on isn't exit scamming or has stopped working for whatever reason.



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When Dark Web Markets exit scam, they take lots of user's money with them as users store their money in the Market's custodial Wallets (Not your keys, not your coins).

A Mixer doesn't hang on to people's money, a mixer only has "in-flight" trades going on. The best a Mixer could get away with is the last few trades before alarm bells start ringing with people posting complaints in public places.

If we fail to fulfill our obligations set out in a Letter Of Guarantee just once and it becomes publicly known and posted, that's it - we're no longer trusted and the mixer is over.

I've spent over a year and a half building Anonymixer so far, running off with 0.1 BTC kind of wouldn't be worth it.
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Last edit: August 22, 2020, 01:05:16 PM by LoyceV
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If you don't like the sound of using any software, then ProtonMail provide free email accounts where you can get a PGP enabled email address by default.
I'm currently in the process of creating a Protonmail account. That turns out to be a lot more difficult than I ever expected if I don't want to give them my creditcard. To be continued ....

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Given my position, good OPSEC is paramount I'm afraid. I can understand why other Mixers may have been reluctant to share their addresses in the past. I'm going out on a limb trusting someone who I don't know as it is. What I can't do is send that kind of information in clear text on this forum in a private message where the admins of this site can also see it and where it gets stored forever in their database.
The forum uses Cloudflare, which is probably a much bigger risk than Bitcointalk Admin:
So it's not blatantly insecure except in that Cloudflare is very probably an NSA honeypot, and it's not like the NSA is going to steal your password in order to scam people on bitcointalk.org or anything. If you use PGP for important communications and use a unique password, then IMO this addresses the plausible attacks well enough.

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Last edit: August 22, 2020, 08:50:51 PM by LeGaulois
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Hi

Just a question, it's supposed to work without JS

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Works with or without JavaScript


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<strong>Holy guacamole!</strong> Looks like you&#x27;ve disabled JavaScript!<br/>
    We recommend enabling it for this site. <a href="/help/faq#no-js" target="_blank">Click here to find out why</a>.<br />
    To get rid of this message and to continue without JavaScript, <a href="http://no-js.anonymixer.com/outputs">Click here for a No-JavaScript version</a>.
    <a href="http://no-js.anonymixer.com/outputs">
view-source:https://anonymixer.com/outputs

However http://no-js.anonymixer.com/outputs doesn't work for me

It supposed to work without JS but with limited features, from what I read (on the FAQ?) However everything is the same to me
If it works without JS, why going to a NoJS version?


on the main domain (was not able to reproduce it)
Code:
We messed up 😭
Apologies, you've probably hit a bug in our code. Please contact support quoting Error ID 'AWOCMKWB' and we'll try to fix this issue.


EDIT
So, finally, I just tried the service, I'm not going to make a long speech to explain a simple thing, so I'll make it short
No bells and whistles maybe but I like that (I prefer simple websites). No Cloudflare is a good point. It works well, it's easy to use even for a child. What to ask more

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August 23, 2020, 11:45:30 AM
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LeGaulois

Thanks very much for trying Anonymixer and leaving feedback! I'm pleased the trade went through all fine.

The two issues you encountered:

1. On the Clearnet version, my hyperlink to the "no-js" subdomain had a URI scheme of "http" instead of "https". I don't open the HTTP port, so your browser couldn't connect.

I've fixed that.

2. After confirming the trade, you clicked browser back button, through to the Outputs screen and attempted to add another Output Address and it went "bang". It should never go bang.

I've fixed that too. Doing the same thing now simply gives a nice message stating that the Trade has been confirmed and that you can't add or alter the Outputs at that stage.

If it works without JS, why going to a NoJS version?

If you turn JavaScript off via the NoScript plugin, then the behaviour of Anonymixer is the same, regardless of whether you're on https://anonymixer.com or https://no-js.anonymixer.com.

The only difference is that the "no-js" domain does not send the <script /> tag in the HTML, which means there's absolutely no way that any JavaScript is going to run, whether you have JavaScript disabled or not.

My recommended way to use Anonymixer is via the Tor Web Browser, connecting to the Onion address and turning JavaScript on. There are some added benefits;

  • Everything will seem much snappier
  • Bitcoin addresses get validated instantly
  • Approximate Fiat values update as you type
  • Adding/removing Output and Deposit addresses becomes instant
  • Can open Distribution Percentages of both Outputs and Deposits, drag them about
  • On the Deposits Screen, dragging distribution updates the QR Codes instantly
  • There's no need to continually refresh on the Mix/Processing screen, everything comes in and updates, in real time, via Web Sockets.

I recommend to anyone to try it out with JavaScript enabled, just a test, i.e. just create a fake Trade that you don't intend to send any money to and you'll see.

Once again, thanks for trying out Anonymixer, LeGaulois and I hope you consider using us again.
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August 25, 2020, 10:30:48 AM
Last edit: August 25, 2020, 04:32:19 PM by LoyceV
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If you don't like the sound of using any software, then ProtonMail provide free email accounts where you can get a PGP enabled email address by default.
I'm currently in the process of creating a Protonmail account.
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is August 25, 2020. I am LoyceV at Bitcointalk.org and confirm LoyceVswitzerland@protonmail.com is my email address.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1LoyceVGjMmUj6Na79M9Ju8N52KXkbKMQE
HPqWKepp/3oMcHDRLbNH/JPHHChzh58qHXVteGk9pQgMUfx23t6DJ0OLDzrOsvhDSbKgeR/vAToeKzzY6JOfhJQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Click to verify (although you should never rely on third parties to verify a signature).
Address staked here.

Feel free to send me anything to prove ownership of funds:
Sure, we can prove ownership of some addresses to you.
This is what I'll do with the information:
  • Verify the signature(s) using either Bitcoin Core or Electrum
  • Verify the balance using my latest data dump on my local PC (so I don't have to enter the address in a Block explorer)
    This means the balance I confirm might be outdated by several hours
  • Post the sum of all balances in this topic, rounded to Bitcoins dot One Two Decimals
  • Delete your email
  • Remove the addresses from the search history on my PC



Update: I can confirm the sum of the addresses signed by Anonymixer have a combined balance of 0.14 BTC, based on today's address snapshot (at least 14 hours old, possibly a bit more), spread out.
I've deleted all data already. I said I'd post only one decimal, but if OP is okay with it, I can add one more decimal (from memory) to make the balance more accurate. Done!

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Last edit: October 02, 2020, 12:19:47 PM by anonymixer
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Update: I can confirm the sum of the addresses signed by Anonymixer have a combined balance of 0.1 BTC, based on today's address snapshot (at least 14 hours old, possibly a bit more), spread out.
I've deleted all data already. I said I'd post only one decimal, but if OP is okay with it, I can add one more decimal (from memory) to make the balance more accurate.

Thanks very much LoyceV for taking the time to setup up a ProtonMail account and validate those addresses and funds.

I'm OK with upping the decimal place Smiley



I've just managed to create a Twitter account: https://twitter.com/anonymixer

Fingers crossed, that stays up. If anyone is on Twitter, please give me a follow Wink
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August 27, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
Last edit: October 02, 2020, 12:23:51 PM by anonymixer
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Hi all,

Just noticing some Trades are going through.

If you have any queries about a transaction or any suggestions, please let us know by emailing us at support@anonymixer.com and we will resolve any issues you have.

Please do not be afraid to put stuff through via Cold Trades, we are here and ready to sign Cold Transactions, the vast majority of our coins live in Cold Storage.

We are also on Twitter with the handle of @anonymixer

Our PGP Key is at: http://anonymixerpolbpy.onion/pgp-and-bitcoin OR https://anonymixer.com/pgp-and-bitcoin
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August 27, 2020, 07:10:20 PM
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How do you ensure that coins sent to you in a previous mixing will not return to the user at a later mixing?

Also, as you are providing letter of guarantee, use of CDN would not allow MITM. Without using CDN, you are just exposing your IP, i.e. 46.17.96.4, open for DDOS.
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