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August 28, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
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It is a very rare possibility that it really happens in my view , it's easy to write it on paper but reality, with storms, sunray, and magnetic field could be changeable, but i hope someday it happens.
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August 28, 2020, 02:18:16 PM
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I also heard about the idea of selling the Internet to other companies. Otherwise, how Elon Musk would profit from that? There is a bunch of internet & telecommunication companies worldwide, which provide lots of services.  I mean it's much easier to use the Internet from my cell phone provider, I can be sure about the quality of the service.
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August 28, 2020, 07:29:03 PM
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What do you think about the new free Internet from Elon Musk? Is it true that you can connect to it for free? Or maybe we need to buy special equipment to catch the Internet from its satellites?

Starlink isn't free, where is your source to bring this claim? There have been closed beta testing with promising speed and latencies, many people in rural areas are interested in a satellite service that actually works but nowhere i have seen that this is "free", there are simply speculations about what would it cost monthly and there is the medium size pizza antenna (terminal) as well which is luckily easy to install because its phased array which pretty much means "self aiming".



And yes, you will have to pay for this antenna as well as a monthly fee.

Given the late youtube scams using Elon Musk name, i highly suspect this. Starlink is true and is serious, but "free internet" is not. It does however change the game for internet satellite, basically renders everybody else obsolete.

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August 28, 2020, 10:30:55 PM
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If a product is free most likely you are the product. I don't know how exactly but I don't believe Musk is doing it just because of his big hearth.
He is doing for his tesla I guess because in future driverless cars are going to have more consumers so if he can provide lot of free perks then people will get attracted to his car and of course he can track the user data and can make use of their database for his future product engagements.
You are right, the main goal is for Tesla's future progress...
It's not only Elon who has the goal of creating free internet access, Google and Facebook also want it, they don't do it because of their kindness but rather to reach more users, there's a big business behind.

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August 29, 2020, 06:29:34 AM
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From what I've heard this wasn't supposed to be a free internet project, but something like $80 for more bandwidth than other providers offers.

Great discussion!   Fast instant internet access for all is the goal.

Not more bandwidth - you can't beat physical medium on volume.
Faster bandwidth - you can't beat vacuum on speed!

It's not intended to replace fiber in high density areas, although you'll probably be able to pay for a PPP (old networking term) within the same MAN (organizational term) if response time is crucial to you.   That's where he going to make the $$$.    I bet he'll have multiple satellites just to serve the NYSE (financial term!) alone. 


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August 30, 2020, 02:37:35 AM
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I am sure that the free Internet from Elon will work soon.
But as always, problems will be created by states.
I'm sure that the governments will simply not allow the free sale of such antennas in order to connect to this network.
You will need to get a bunch of licenses and the cost of this antenna will be very high.
Therefore, only large providers will be able to purchase them. And then these providers will sell you this free internet for real money.
In general, everything is as always. States and governments have too much control and leverage.
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September 03, 2020, 07:02:18 AM
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If a product is free most likely you are the product. I don't know how exactly but I don't believe Musk is doing it just because of his big hearth.
He is doing for his tesla I guess because in future driverless cars are going to have more consumers so if he can provide lot of free perks then people will get attracted to his car and of course he can track the user data and can make use of their database for his future product engagements.

I thought as much.

I heard he is now the third richest person in the world.
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September 03, 2020, 08:11:38 AM
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people wont have to buy satalite dishes individually.
what will happen is 'cellular' towers with satelites(spaceX groundstations) will be set up to organise packets of data to make it more efficient to cover hundreds of people at a time instead of hundreds of individual dishes

this saves on not having to fibre optic cable homes.
ISP's will become more decentralised because the cell tower becomes the traffic controller between a cell phone signal and a satelite dish

ofcourse elon isnt doing it for free. however offering city councils cheaper internet for the public streets means that town councils pay a bill and offers free internet to people in the town centres

yes it will be 'free perk' with his cars. but it also allows trains and planes to have better internet. so the rail/airline companies pay. as the 'extra free perk' for passengers

they will usage to military and science. and also bigdata. so it is very much a case of why google appears to be free even though they make their money behind the scenes and not directly user subscription fees

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September 04, 2020, 01:43:56 AM
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It's supposed to be a satellite-based internet, in the past months Elon Musk has been sending a shit ton of satellites to provide this service... if he becomes the number one provider he will become the richest man in the world, i can see it coming. So maybe it has a free version and the paid one, isn't clear yet... But it will be something good for those poor countries who don't has internet access.
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September 06, 2020, 07:08:00 AM
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It's supposed to be a satellite-based internet, in the past months Elon Musk has been sending a shit ton of satellites to provide this service... if he becomes the number one provider he will become the richest man in the world, i can see it coming. So maybe it has a free version and the paid one, isn't clear yet... But it will be something good for those poor countries who don't has internet access.

Which other Internet Provider company can boast about launching their own satellites? The constellation for Starlink is planned for 40k sats. That's A LOT. But they are the only ones with capacity to do so, because SpaceX.

The simple matter that they have cheap access to space while the others don't, is already balance breaking. But their constellation is also low altitude, which allows for those tasty 20ms pings.

On top of that, the vacuum of space lets light travel faster then fiber, so their typical example is they could achieve lower latencies from, say, New York to London then using the transoceanic fiber optic cable.

The satellites act pretty much like the cells in a cellular network, the passing sat has to share its bandwidth with all the terminals. Therefore it would result faster in isolated places with fewer people, than urban centers with millions. If a city is already well connected, you won't see any point in this. If you are rural, it is a game changer.

Some even say that this might enthuse people to go back and live in rural places now that proper internet will be available everywhere.

The technical limitation is out of the way, but the political ones... For example, China does not allow planes flying above their airspace to give wifi internet to their passengers. You can bet Starlink will be banned too. Doesn't mean if you could somehow smuggle that antenna it wouldn't work, unless Starlink (somehow) complies with Chinese authorities and turn off their sats when they fly above their land...

Poor Elon, he is going to face the dark side of humanity. So far they had good relations with Tesla, we will see.

Oh and speaking of planes, yes this is very good for moving aircraft, it has already been tested in flight and worked great.

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April 19, 2021, 12:02:22 PM
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What do you think about the new free Internet from Elon Musk?
Perhaps there will still be free internet from Elon Musk. Only in order to lure you into their networks. One to three months for free, and then pay. We have seen this more than once on ordinary Internet providers. And there will be discounts on equipment too ... Pay a year in advance for the Internet and get a discount.
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April 19, 2021, 12:17:01 PM
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What do you think about the new free Internet from Elon Musk? Is it true that you can connect to it for free? Or maybe we need to buy special equipment to catch the Internet from its satellites?
Never rely in free internet because this is not that safe and protected , you wanted to have free net but you are risking your accounts to be hacked and your privacy to be invaded?

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April 19, 2021, 03:40:49 PM
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What do you think about the new free Internet from Elon Musk? Is it true that you can connect to it for free? Or maybe we need to buy special equipment to catch the Internet from its satellites?
Never rely in free internet because this is not that safe and protected , you wanted to have free net but you are risking your accounts to be hacked and your privacy to be invaded?


Lots of them are packaged as free internet whereas their providers profit from it, like making money with users data or through other means... this should disqualify them as being free internet.  I believe things that are truely free should be free without any hidden means to make money off the users of the free things



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